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    Mark Riley: The Intersection of Politics and Culture
    Mark Riley The Intersection S6Ep10 Voting Expert Aaron Hamlin

    Mark Riley: The Intersection of Politics and Culture

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2022 26:07


    Americans are taking a close look at voting in the wake of Trump's election denial in 2020. There are already a number of systems in place across the country, and almost an equal number that advocates believe could do a better job at truly expressing the will of the people. Aaron Hamlin is Executive Director and Co-Founder of the Center for Election Science. We recently spoke about the different voting systems being used across the country. 

    Kings and Generals: History for our Future
    3.4 Fall and Rise of China: The Rebellion of Li Zicheng

    Kings and Generals: History for our Future

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2022 53:12


    Last time we spoke, the death of Nurhaci led to the rise of his grandson Hung Taiji. The Sea King Mao Wenlong was finally caught lying about his military achievements and even secretly negotiating with the Jin. Mao's rival Yuan Chonghuan took little time to get rid of Mao, thus riding himself of the man stealing his limelight. Unfortunately it was not long when Yuan would fall victim to a sneaky ploy of Hung Taiji and was executed under the false pretense that he was a turncoat like Mao. Hung managed to gain some very valuable Ming defectors and upgraded his military with new cannons and naval units. Then Hung proclaimed his people to be the Manchu under a brand new Qing dynasty as he conquered all of Korea. With the Koreans now giving him tribute, he soon turned his gaze towards the Ming, with some new toys in hand.   Welcome to the Fall and Rise of China Podcast, I am your dutiful host Craig Watson. But, before we start I want to also remind you this podcast is only made possible through the efforts of Kings and Generals over at Youtube. Perhaps you want to learn more about the history of Asia? Kings and Generals have an assortment of episodes on world war two and much more  so go give them a look over on Youtube. So please subscribe to Kings and Generals over at Youtube and to continue helping us produce this content please check out www.patreon.com/kingsandgenerals. If you are still hungry for some more history related content, over on my channel, the Pacific War Channel where I cover the history of China and Japan from the 19th century until the end of the Pacific War. This episode is The Rebellion of Li Zicheng In early 1634, one man, Chen Qiyu, was instilled with an incredible amount of power. He was made Supreme commander of Shaanxi, Shanxi, Henan, Huguang and Sichuan. The Ming Court had realized the required authority necessary to coordinate operations against the wandering bandit menace. Droughts, famine, even cannibalism was seen all over, driving peasants to swell the ranks of bandits who soon became rebel armies. So many officials in numerous provinces complained they lacked the resources necessary to feed their troops, distribute relief or quell rebellions. In turn when they would fail, they would be dismissed, leading to a further shortage of competent men to manage the terrible situation. In the area between Shaanxi and Henan, over 200,000 rebels began taking smaller towns and killing local officials. The rebels would routinely attack smaller towns, usually in groups of 10,000 and perform atrocities against officials. They would avoid any open battles with Ming forces, always on the move. Then all the prominent rebel leaders got together for a meeting, which would be a rather dramatic turning point. The overarching leader amongst them was Li Zicheng who would make many key decisions for them all. They decided to divide their forces and strike out simultaneously in all directions. The most successful of these groups would be the Rebel leaders Zhang Xianzhong and Gao Yingxiang who hit Nan Zhili. Enroute to their target, their troops carried around banners declaring themselves followers of the True Primal Dragon Emperor and thus they were identifying themselves as something more than just mere bandits. They marched through Henan on their way into Nan Zhili, looting the town of Fengyang. There they killed over 4000 Ming officials and civilians performing some heinous atrocities, some stating they even ripped fetuses out of pregnant women. They razed everything to the ground and looted the place for days. Once they were done, Gao headed west and Zhang went east to attack Luzhou. Defending Luzhou was commander Wu Dapo who deployed peasants and troops to defend the town. He set up cannons atop walls and stockpiled large logs to be thrown at the rebels. Then as the bandits got close, his forces opened fire killing around a 1000 of them.Yet such local competent commanders were increasingly becoming rare and the Emperor continuously resorted to dispatching eunuchs wherever he could to resolve matters. These eunuchs of course were not military men and many had ulterior motives. The bandits were moving further south freaking out the Ming Court and Emperor. Drastic measures were enforced such as rushing 43,000 troops from other theaters, such as from the northeast where the Qing could strike at any moment. In the wake of the absolute disaster at Fengyang, Hong Chengchou was given the task to crush the rebels within 6 months time and the emperor followed this up by pledging almost 1 million taels worth of supplies for the task. Despite all these major efforts, Hong had far too few troops, too much ground to cover and far little time.    The rebels roamed freely, prompting one official in Henan to state “the villages are bereft of people, white bones fill the wilderness and at night the crying of ghosts can be heard everywhere”. Rice inflation was so high, it is alleged people were buying human flesh of the deceased in markets. The rebel groups were demonstrating more and more tactical awareness. They began burning crops in certain areas to deny food supplies to pursuing Ming forces. Gao Yinxiang besieged Guangzhou with a force of possibly 70,000 and used many heavy cannons. Gao followed this up by attacking Taozhou, dangerously close to the secondary capital of the Ming, Nanjing. His forces would crush a Ming army in Song and Henan before he returned to Shaanxi in 1636. The rebels and Ming officials would go back and forth with countless battles and one Ming official realized the rebellions now needed to be quelled as a first priority. The Minister of War Yang Sichang stated the rebels were a “disease of the heart” and that the capital region must be protected from the spreading poison of the rebels. The frontier war with the Manchu he deemed to be like the arms of a person, not necessary for survival, but the heart was. Yang saw the greatest danger being in Shaanxi, Henan, Huguang and Jiangbei. He thought the empire required a bold new strategy to restore state control of the central plains. Once this was achieved, then they could turn their attention towards the Manchu threat. Yang's plan was to become known as “shi ian zhi wang” the Ten-sided net. Like most grand proposals during this time, it looked amazing on paper and would be a catastrophic failure.   By 1637 the scope of the rebellions had expanded greatly and the center of its activity was shifting from south and east closer to the capital and the agricultural heartland of the Ming dynasty. Thus Yang proscribed the construction of more defenses along the frontier, hoping to bolster everything aside from troops. He wanted to keep around just 50,000 troops outside the Great Wall, thinking it would be a sufficient deterrent against the Manchu. The idea was, if the 50,000 were attacked by Manchu invaders, they could buy enough time for reinforcements to come. In the meantime they could even open up peace talks with the Manchu simply to buy more time for what he really wanted to do, quell the rebellions once and force all. There was quite an uproar in the Ming Court over the idea of opening peace talks with the Manchu, but it would begrudgingly be done. Some others in the court advised opening up trade markets with their Mongol allies to procure horses, hoping to drive a wedge between the Manchu and their Mongol allies. Ming intelligence at the time suggested the Mongolia frontier situation was a hot spot not just between the Ming and Manchu, but also between the Manchu and certain Mongol groups. The idea as stated by one official was “to use barbarians to control barbarians”.   Yang believed given adequate supplies, how many times have I stated that one at this point, given adequate supplies the soldiers could be fed and would fight, and in turn would be able to depend on the populace accordingly. Once the populace felt safe, they would direct their allegiance to the Ming government and be less inclined to join rebel groups. Then with the populace, they could form militias and finally cut off, isolate and stave out the rebel groups. Yang then prescribed punishment and even execution for Ming officials who were derelict in their duties. This was the “ten-sided net” strategy. Yang said Shaanxi, Henan, Huguang and Jiangbei would have 4 lines of defense, each with a pacification commissioner assigned. At Yansui, Shaanxi, Shandong, Jiangnan, Jiangxi and Sichuan would be 6 auxiliary lines of defense, each also assigned pacification commissioners. Those commissioners would be directing both defensive and offensive operations. Through their efforts they would gradually close in around rebel positions until all were trapped, then killed or captured. Defense was the primary function of it all. Once the net closed in on the rebels, the Ming would employ “clearing the fields and strengthening the walls” as a general strategy. Thus with heavily defended cities and no supplies available to them, the rebels would eventually be forced to surrender. 2 supreme commanders, the Zongli and Zongdu would smash the enemy wherever possible, while the rest of the officials would act more locally. The Zongli and Zongdu's troops would be elite troops with better mobility. Yang estimated they would need 10,000 troops in key defensive posts and around 30,000 for each supreme commander. In total they would require 120,000 troops, of which 36,000 would be mounted. Overall, the problem should be resolved in a matter of just 6 months, sure. Now to equip and supply all these troops it was estimated to cost 2.8 million taels. How were they going to pay for all this, taxes taxes taxes. Yang argued they could increase the land tax by about 12 ounces of grain to bring in an extra 1.9 million taels and get another 400,000 via special taxes on surplus lands. 200,000 from postal revenues and the rest perhaps by raising the sales tax a bit. There was a ton of debate in the Court over all this, but Yang got his way. The plan was a go though it certainly had its critics. One major critic against Yang and his plan was Sun Chuanting, the Grand coordinator of Shaanxi. Sun argued countless problems with the ten-sided net plan. First he argued the funds and manpower for it were highly unrealistic “how can the state raise an extra 2.8 million tales when they've already spent more than 1 million taels in extra revenues”. Sun re-iterated this argument asking where the troops would even come from and how the hell would he manage to do all this in just 6 months. Sun also stated the seasons when this would take place were not the same seasons the bandits usually were at large. There was also the issue of terrain, the rebels could still flee to mountains and forests, which large Ming armies would lose them in. Sun said many more troops would actually be required for this plan and those officials appointed needed to not only be competent, but also very knowledgeable at the local levels. Sun characterized the plan to be more of an “empty net strategy”. But like most critics, hell the majority of our politicians today to boot, Sun had no alternative plan. I am sure any of you in the audience can already see one of the largest issues with this plan, that of taxation. The peasants are rebelling because there is no food or funds in their regions, so the plan is to further tax them to stop them from rebelling? This issue did not go unnoticed, the Emperor stated himself “leadership and money needs to come from the gentry, not the masses. Suppressing the bandits requires a big campaign which requires lots of troops. The money can't come from the people, but should come from the treasury, but the treasury is empty”.  Xiong Wencan, a man who gained a reputation for quelling rebels was appointed as one of the supreme commanders, alongside Hong Chengchou. Out in the field, Xiong and Hong managed to achieve many victories against the rebels,  Hong even managed to defeat Li Zicheng, one of the biggest rebel leaders at large. But these victories did not amount to peace for the populace. Many of the pacifications armies would loot and rape as they drove the rebels into the mountains. As is expected, Ming commanders would not venture deep into mountains, fearing rebel ambushes. Ming forces won numerous battles, claiming the lives of thousands of rebels, but were never able to eliminate the enemy entirely from any given region. At one point, the rebel leader Zhang Xianzhong was defeated in battle and had to surrender. This prompted some Ming officials to discuss the idea of using Zhang Xianzhong to kill other rebel leaders. Most officials deemed the idea completely insane and it was soon disregarded. While the discussions were going on  however, Xiong Wencan allegedly gave Zhang 20,000 men to help maintain local order. This eye opening moment prompted Yang Sichang to become more more personally involved in the campaign, not liking how his subordinates were simply doing things on their own and some not even following direct orders. Yang also vowed to the emperor it would all be done by the winter of 1638. Yang then berated field commanders to obey the authority of the Ming officials. Winter of 1638 came with no significant results, and Yang asked the emperor to replace him, but was refused. This prompted Yang to make a list of officials who he deemed deserved punishment for lack of action during the campaign, one of the most notable was Hong Chengchou who seemed to be making no ground. Many officials were punished, except for Hong who the emperor personally liked and protected.    There were many unforeseen problems, such as local officials hiding resources and bribing the tax agents who came looking for funds. Natural disasters plagued China as well. Locust plagues hit and caused more famines in Henan, Suzhou and Shandong forcing more and more peasants to scrounge for food and many Earthquakes hit Sichuan. More and more the strong joined the rebels and the weak starved to death. Yang himself seemed to not even be following the ten-sided net strategy anymore by 1638. Yang began to prioritize certain regions over others, rather than keeping the net closing overall and when the Emperor questioned him, Yang would argue it was too difficult to coordinate the officials. As I mentioned many of the sub commanders and other officials were beginning to not heed orders and it was becoming a noticeable problem. And of course Yang gave the old, lack of troops, lack of supplies speech. All in all, rebels were certainly being killed or captured and many of their leaders were falling, its not like the Ming were not making headway. Yang was even beginning to feel some confidence that the plan was working and proposed grabbing another million taels for the plan and famine relief. Then disaster would strike.   As I previously mentioned, part of the plan was to open up peace talks with the Qing, to bide more time to finish off the rebels. In 1638, the Ming were not looking so good and the Manchu's were coming off multiple war victories making them not too willing to talk about peace. Some in the Ming Court thought they should negotiate making Hung Tiaji a tributary prince, Yang Sichang pushed for this heavily. Yuan Chongzhen held a meeting with many officials over the state of the frontier defenses. They lacked firepower and many competent commanders were busy with the rebels. In the end as a result of the circumstances the Emperor ruled in favor of offering to make Hung Taiji a tributary prince. Meanwhile Qing nobles such as Dorgon, Kong, Geng and Shang began raiding Ming territroy outside the great wall. Then Dorgon had a lucky encounter at a large redoubt near the Great Wall and annihilated the force in it and proceeded across the border and approached the Yellow River. Zu Dashou alerted the capital and demanded relief forces to rush over. The Ming Court debated on what action to take, Yang Sichang advocated for negotiations, while others urged for battle. One commander Lu Xiangsheng argued with Yang “If you discard war but talk of negotiations,you nourish disaster and bring disgrace to the country. Who doesn't know this? What's the point of my receiving the double-edged sword from the emperor if I don't exert myself in battle”. Yang's rebuttal to this was to sneakily transfer troops from Lu Xiangsheng to another commander named Gao Qiqian, leaving Lu with only 20,000 men. The Emperor for his part was outraged by the Qing threat to his capital yet again and yelled at Yang in front of the Court. It seemed the Emperor was most angry about the idea that those around him thought he personally believed peace talks were the best choice of action, as he did not think they were. The Emperor then ordered Lu Xiangsheng to pursue the enemy and for Gao Qiqian to defend Shanhaiguan. The Emperor sent 40,000 taels to Lu as a reward and stated “Peace talks were the idea of the outer court officials. The Emperor personally favors wars”.    The Qing attacked Gaoyang, where the now 76 year old and retired Sun Chenzong was. He, alongside his whole family participated in the defense of the city. The city fell after 3 days, poor Chenzong and 19 of his family members perished. Lu Xiangsheng pushed for a counter attack, but Gao Qiqian argued they would be better to take up defensive positions. Lu's forces were fighting the enemy at Baoding, but had no rations left. Lu pleaded with his men to continue fighting “you and I have all received the blessings of the state. In this calamity we may not avoid death, but there is no calamity in which we might not attain life!”. His men resolved to fight on to delay the enemy, praying for relief forces to come. Gao's forces were only 15 miles away when they received a plea from Lu to come help, Gao did not reply. Lu's force was surrounded near the Gaoshui bridge outside Jiazhuang, they then engaged the enemy. The battle lasted 6 hours with cannons, guns and arrows flying off. Lu's sub commanders pleaded to try and break out of the encirclement, but Lu demanded they all make a last stand. Lu would die from 4 arrows and 3 sword blows, allegedly after taking 10 men with him. The Qing took Changping, Jizhou, Pinggu and reached the outskirts of Jinan by January of 1639. Jinan city would fall and be razed to the ground, and the Ming Prince Zhang Bingwen would die from arrow fire in street fighting as the defenders fled. Dorgon then raided some territory around Tianjin before heading back east. By the time any significant Ming relief forces came to bear down on the Qing they were already making a withdrawal. The Qing raids had lasted 5 months, they hit 53 cities of which they captured 8. They fought 57 battles defeating 33 Ming divisions and captured an incredible 473,000 Ming, 4000 taels of gold and nearly a million taels of silver. Over 100 Ming officers were killed and sadly 150,000 civilians. The Ming Court responded first with the execution of 32 officials deemed to have allowed the situation to get out of hand. Yang Sichang was impeached, but managed to avoid execution. Competent commanders who were quelling the rebels were transferred to the northeast to prepare new defenses against future Qing attacks leaving the northwest to fester with more rebellions.    A little while back I mentioned the talk of using the surrendered rebel leader Zhang Xianzhong to help kill other rebel leaders. Well this whole time he was in Gucheng training a so-called militia and making promises to the Ming that he would help pacify all of Huguang. He had erected customs houses on the Han river to collect transit taxes, under the guise they were to help defend Gucheng. He was also bribing officials and local administrators left right and center, effectively having them firmly in his hands. Meanwhile Xiong Wencan was still performing offensive operations against the rebels, while the Ming Court in late 1638 falsely believed the rebels were largely quelled. Then Zhang Xinazhong, to the surprise of no one, began rebelling with that so-called militia group he had been training. It should come to no surprise, Zhang's efforts the whole time were in preparation for future rebelling. He had  extorted money through the transit tax schemes and used the funds to reinforce the walls of the town where he settled his garrison. On top of bribing so many officials to turn an blind eye to his actions, upon re-commencing with the rebellion, he sent a release of records of all the corrupt officials who dealt with him and made it public, leading to more and more executions. Zhang's force joined up with another rebel leader's force namd Luo Rucai and they soon began to attack Fangxian which fought them for over a week before its gates were opened. The rebels plundered Fangxian and then casually moved into the mountains near the Shaanxi border. The man who had captured Zhang in the first place, Xiong Wencan was berated for all of this of course. Xiong sent Zuo Liangyu to pursue the rebels, but Zuo's force would be ambushed in the mountains, taking 10,000 casualties and having to retreat. It was one of the greatest rebel victories, they had not only killed a large number of Ming soldiers, his force also got their hands on a ton of war supplies and Zuo's official seals of authority.    The disgraced and severely deranked Yang Sichang demanded to be allowed to deal with the problem and was reappointed minister of war, Grand secretary, Supreme Commander of Bandit pacification and bestowed the double edged sword of authority in 1639, wow talk about the kitchen sink of appointments. The Emperor agreed to give Yang 5 million taels to wipe the rebels out once and for all and pretty much gave Yang carte blanche for how to operate. Apparently the Emperor even personally served Yang wine at a later banquet and gave him a handwritten poem, what a fall and rise moment. Xiong was impeached of course for his incompetence and even being accused of taking bribes from Zhang Xianzhong. Yang had a 6 step plan now to stop the spread of the rebels. First, taxes would be used to raise local troops with military farms established to feed them. Second, town walls would be improved, Third mercenaries would be hired to help train local militias. Fourth all cities would have firearms mounted on their walls. Fifth the government needed to improve famine relief efforts. And sixth they needed river forces to stop rebel boats and advocated for bringing troops from neighboring regions to help encircle the rebels. As you can imagine, the funding for all of this came from what else, new taxes. Surprisingly, Zuo Liangyu was appointed Bandit Pacifying General despite his enormous defeat to Zhang. Zuo from the offset would also believe he was being held back by Yang, who kept him in a defensive position and denying him any opportunity to get revenge upon Zhang.    Despite the efforts, the rebels remained on the rise, now Luo Rucai and Zhang Xianzhong commanded a force of 100,000 by the fall of 1639. Yang decided to surround Zhang's stronghold of Gucheng, as Chongzhen berated him demanding to know how long this would all take. Throughout 1639-1640 the Ming seemed to be piling up victories over the rebels and even Zhang Xianzhong had fled into Sichuan being pursued by a very angry Zuo Liangyu. Yang ordered Zuo to stop pursuing him, but Zuo ignored the order and managed to encircle Zhang near Mount Manao. There he made a major victory, inflicting 3500 casualties, captured several commanders and also Zhang's wives and concubines. Zuo seemingly exonerated himself, but Zhang managed to escape further west into Sichuan, not to mention Yang was not too happy he disobeyed orders. Yang, as was typical of Ming officials, sought to limit those he saw as a rising rival such as Zuo. So Yang recommended another general, He Renlong to be invested with Zuo's title, which would prove to be a serious mistake. Yang's recommendation fell dead, and now he had alienated both Zuo and He. Zuo then turned to pursue Zhang who was beginning a rampage throughout Sichuan. Many Ming soldiers began deserting at this time, prompting Yang to more desperate acts, such as recruiting Shaolin monks at the Temple in Henan. Soon all of Sichuan was in trouble as tons of cities were taken by rebels or simply abandoned. Famines forced peasants to cannibalism and thus many joined the rebels, soon Yang yet again asked to be relieved of his post, but the emperor responded by sending 200,000 taels for famine relief instead.    Because of Yang's strategy to coordinate regional defenses, many local communities were left largely to fend for themselves against the wandering rebels. Zhang and Luo's combined forces struck several cities in Sichuan. Yang was pushed to relocate his HQ to Chongqing where he could be closer to the fighting. He then began to place a bounty on Zhang's head and announced clemency for other rebels if they brought him Zhang's head. To make matters worse, the Ming court increasingly became frustrated with Yang's inability to achieve results with his numerous disputes with his subordinates whom all were rallying against him, stating he was incompetent and should be replaced. To all of this Zhng Xianzhong wrote a poem mocking Yang “Before we had coordinator Shao Who often came forth and danced with me Then came the armies who would not fight But followed me around But now we have good commander Yang Who graciously leaves me a three day road!”. The rebels took Luzhou in December of 1640 and fled at the first sight of Ming troops trying to encircle them. Yang was desperate and ordered all his commanders to assemble at Yunyang and to mount one more campaign to crush the rebels once and for all. Yet by this point many of the commanders were simply ignoring Yang's orders. For example Zuo Liangyu headed east trying to stop rebels from escaping into Shaanxi and He Renglong had gone west doing a similar operation. Yang was lashing out at the commanders arguing with so much terrain to cover it was now better to go on the offense than defense, but all the commanders ignored him. Then Yang's fears were realized when Zhang Xianzhong managed to capture Ming Prince Xiang at Xiangyang. Zhang's men had plundered some seals of office from Ming forces and used them to get into the town. Now Zhang occupied the prince's seat in his palace. Zhang allegedly poured the prince some wine at the palace and demanded of  Xiang “I wish to have the head of Yang Sichang, but he is far away in Laikou, so now I'll have to borrow the prince's head in his stead. This will cause Sichang to suffer the full penalty of the law for having lost his princely fief. Now the prince should use all his strength to finish his wine”. Zhang then tied prince Xiang to the palace wall and lit him and his concubines on fire. Zhang then distributed some 150,000 taels from the prince's treasury to the people, but it should be noted his men also performed horrible atrocities upon the people as well. They cut several hands, feet, ears and noses from random civilians when they captured towns in the area. Now the rebel army moved east taking even more towns, even Guangzhou.    Upon hearing the news Yang was livid with the commanders, who all defended themselves stating they were guarding against raids from Li Zicheng's rebel army from the north. To add insult to injury, Li Zichengs forces did strike from the north hitting Luoyang and managed to capture the extraordinary fat Prince Fu and his grandson. By contemporary accounts, its estimated Prine Fu may have been over 400 pounds and was quite reviled by the local populace. Prince Fu kowtowed before Li, begging for his life. Li of course killed him and then distributed a lot of his wealth to the people of Luoyang stating to them “the prince and the wealthy stripped away the flesh of the people and had no regard for the life or death of the common folk. I've killed him on your behalf”. Allegedly, Li and his sub commanders then stripped flesh from Prince Fu and consumed it with wine as a cruel pun. For taking Luoyang, Li became the foremost rebel leader and the term “dashing Prince” began to be associated with him. Luo Rucai similarly held the title “generalissimo chosen by heaven to pacify the people”.    Yang fell into despair believing all was lost, now he sent a letter to the emperor asking for his own execution. Yang eventually stopped eating and died in march of 1641. Zhang Xianzhong would later capture Yang's ancestral home of Wuling and dig up his grave and desecrate Yang's corpse. Yang's demise truly illustrates the many problems of the late Ming politics and Military situation. All too often, sweeping authority was bestowed on civil officials who lacked military experience. The ten-sided net strategy was doomed from the beginning. The main problem with it was that of resource allocation. If perhaps the Manchu threat had been contained in the northeast, then maybe Yang ould have mustered the forces and resources necessary to beat the rebels. But the entire time there was a fight over resources between the Manchu problem or the Rebel problem, and many in the Court did not know which one was the largest threat. The numerous natural disasters that led to wide scale famines did not help at all and were only made worse by Yang's lack of military experience. While the Ming forces pretty much always bested the Rebels during battle, the rebels enjoyed superior mobility and easily disappeared when needed.   For the remainder of 1641 the Ming tried to fight off the rebels in central China. Ding Qirui replaced Yang Sichang and Fu Zonglong was appointed Vice Minister of War and Supreme commander of Shaanxi. Li Zicheng had risen to be the most powerful rebel leader with Zhang Xianzhong and Luo Rucai beneath him, but all held significant reputations and status. As a result of all the battles to destroy the rebels, now the rebels had earned significant battle experience, technological expertise and a ton of weapons. The Ming were losing their technological edge in war against the rebels.   After the Qing raid into Shandong, the Qing launched a probe attack on Songshan in March of 1639. A Qing force of 30,000 approached Songshan and were met with 37 heavy cannon fire which repulsed the invaders quite quickly. Hung realized the Ming were not yet ready to abandon their defenses outside the Great Wall so easily. Plans for defending the Liaodong region continued, but at this point Ming officials feared to advance any plan for war in fear of failing and being punished for it. It goes without saying the Emperor's temper was pretty high at this point and one was likely to be executed or atleast lose significant status for such ventures if they did not pan out. As the war against the rebels intensified in western and central China, the Qing began to make more noise in Liaodong. Ningyuan remained a thorn in Hung Taiji's side, alongside Songshan and Jinzhou for over a decade now. Since early 1640, the Qing began setting up military farms in preparation for future attacks on Ming territory. The Joseon dynasty was now also helping the war effort by sending food supplies by ship to Xiaolinghe and Dalinghe. Many war plans were brought to Hung by his commanders, and eventually one would be approved. The plan was to capture Songshan and Jinzhou which were thought to be the key to take Shanhaiguan. The war planners argued that previous raids had failed against Shonghan and Jinzhou because the Ming held Shanhai-son jin corridor, but if that was severed, the Qing could consolidate all Liaodong and then hit China proper. Now the Ming were not sitting by idle, they saw the Qing build up and knew a massive invasion was incoming. The Ming also rightfully deduced an attack would be made on Songshan and Jinzhou so both were heavily fortified and prepared for sieges.   The Qing first made their attack on Jinzhou in may of 1640. The Qing began to dig trenches around the city preparing for a very long siege. By March of 1641, Zu Dashous sent a messenger outside the walls of Jinzhou stating to the Qing forces “we've got enough food to last 2-3 years. It will be a long siege; will you be able to hold out that long to outlast us?”. The Qing replied “we aren't lifting the siege, whether it lasts 2-3 or even 4-5 years. How are you going to keep getting food?”. The back and forth talk seemed to unsettle the Ming's Mongol allies at Jinzhou who began to negotiate with the Qing separately. This drove Zu to panic somewhat and go out and strike up a battle with the Qing, but was beaten back into the city. The Qing began to hack their way through the first layers of the city defenses as the Ming continuously sent relief forces from Xingshan, but all were being ambushed and defeated. Then in April of 1641, the Qing assaulted the outpost of Chayeshan. The Qing bombarded it with large cannons and arquebuses. The soldiers and a small force of monks there fought back as best they could using spears, boulders and incendiaries. Soon the Qing overwhelmed the outpost with firepower and razed it to the ground. Then in May of 1641 the Ming engaged a Qing force just outside Xingshan led by Wu Sangui. Wu's force was outmaneuvered despite having a lot of cavalry and encircled by the Qing commanders Dodo and Jirgalang. The Ming lost a few thousand men and several commanders fled, only to then get caught up in another engagement around Liangmashan just a few miles from Jinzhou. At Liangmashan the Ming dug in and tried to bait a force of 3000 Qing into a fight, but the Qing did not take the bait. More fighting occurred outside various outposts and the Ming kept driving off Qing raiders who in turn would just wait until night time to hit walls with siege ladders. Songshan resisted a 37 day long siege under heavy Qing fire, until a Ming relief force arrived. The Qing were camped a few miles due east of Songshan and had to fend off multiple Ming strikes against them. It seemed all the outposts and major walled cities were managing to hold off the Qing. The Qing strategy of bombarding them and trying to draw them out into decisive battles in the field was not working. It seemed the Ming still enjoyed the edge when it came to firepower, but Ming scouts were sending concerning reports that the Qing were busy building a ton of weapon carts and ships at Shenyang. It was clear that a purely defensive war would not be enough. The Ming commanders began to analyze the situation and they discussed the importance of trying to force a decisive battle that might allow them to retake Liaodong. They believed if they could dictate the place and style of combat then they might stand a chance. The Ming also began to get reports that Korean ships were transporting Qing soldiers in the Bohai Gulf which raised the concern the Qing might sever their sea supply lines. This all accumulated into a major war planning session in april of 1641. The Ming commanders held a conference at Ningyuan and decided they needed to break the Qing encirclement of Songshan and Jinzhou. Wu Sangui would lead an initial attack followed up by Zu Dashou from Jinzhou. They ended up clashing with a Qing cavalry force of about 8000, sending the Qing fleeing with their superior cannons. The battle was embarrassing for the Qing, and the commander of the force, Jirgalang was replaced by Hung's brother Dorgon from that point on. It was also around this time the rebels armies had captured and killed the 2 Ming princes and Yang Sichang suicide. All the northeast outposts and cities were demanding further relief forces and supplies, but the Ming court decided to focus on the increasing rebel problem and thus the northeast would just have to rely on what had on hand.   In the summer of 1641, Hung renewed the efforts against Jinzhou and Songshan. The Qing erected their siege weapons, dug moats and trenches around the cities to thwart any relief or supply efforts and dispatched mobile forces to hit anyone outside walls. Chongzhen did not want to send any significant force against the Qing, believing by autumn the Qing would become weakened through attrition. The Emperor did not agree with this plan however and sent the Minister of War Chen Xinjia and Zhang Ruoqi to goad Chongzhen into action. Chen began attacking Chongzhen for what he argued was his lack of faith in the Ming forces. The same factionalism that had plagued the Ming for decades was soon going to force a catastrophe.    Meanwhile, since the death of Yang Sichang, the rebel leader Li Zicheng's ambitions were growing each day. He was now recognized as a charismatic leader and quite the military genius. The way in which he dealt with Prince Fu had gained him a lot of notoriety with the populace since he was handing out money and food. Li then gained the attention of some gentry, one notable one was named Li Yan. Li Yan joined Li and advised him “you must take capturing the hearts of all the people under heaven as the root. If you don't kill people, then you'll win their hearts”. This seems to have had a profound effect on Li as he began to do just that. Li also began a program of making popular slogans for his rebel movement, one went like this “Kill your oxen and sheep. And prepare your wine and spirits.Open your gates and welcome the Dashing Prince. When the Dashing Prince comes. You won't be paying taxes”. A man after my own heart and wallet, if I must say. Shortly after Li Zicheng began changing how his force rebelled, more gentry joined him such as Niu Jinxing and a midget sorcerer named Song Xiance. Yes a Midget sorcerer. Song Xiance was a native of Guide in Henan. He walked with a limp because of a bad right foot and was known by locals as Son the Child. His reputation as a sorcerer came from the fact he went around telling fortunes and casting divinations, which was something seen throughout Chinese history for midgets. Well one of these fortunes he told was that of Li Zicheng who he predicted would have his 18th grandson assuming the imperial throne and that his name would also be Li. So as Li Zicheng enjoyed popular support and expanded his movement, other rebel leaders continued to rampage throughout western and central China. Widespread famine and more people resorting to cannibalism swelled the rebel armies ranks. The situation dramatically changed in august of 1641 when Luo Rucai broke off from Zhang Xianzhong and joined up with Li Zicheng in Henan. Alongside Luo other smaller rebel leaders also joined Li and Li took this newfound force to attack Xincai along the Henan - Nan Zhili border. The commander at Xincai was Fu Zonlong who managed to beat back the rebels with cannons, but the rebel hoards kept coming. Fu then sent word to He Renlong and Li Quoqi asking the 2 commanders for help, but both complained it was not possible to cut through the rebel lines to get to Xincai. Li began to step up the siege and Fu's defenders were soon running low on food. It is alleged, Fu's forces were forced to eat the corpses of slain rebels. When the gunpowder ran out Fu had no other choice but to attack the rebels. Fu led 6000 men out at night to attack the rebels and managed to kill an estimated 1000 rebels before breaking out of the encirclement. They fled for their lives being chased by rebel forces and Fu was eventually captured. The rebels then tried to use Fu to open the gates of Xincai. When he was marched in front of the gate he screamed out “I am the commander of Shaanxi and though I have fallen into rebel hands and there are rebels on all sides of me, I will never serve you. I am a high official. If you wish to kill me, then kill me. How can I not sacrifice my life rather than help you bandits deceive those in the city?”. With all of that said, the rebels beat him to the ground, cut off his nose and Fu would die from his wounds, Xincai would soon after.   Zuo Liangyu would attack Li and Luo's force, driving them in the direction of Henan. From there the rebels would target Nanyang in November of 1641. Nanyang was defended by Meng Ruhu who died trying to defend the city. When Nanyang fell, Li burnt down the residence of Prince Tang furthering his personal war against the Ming monarchy. After this Li began to occupy towns in southwestern Henan much to the dismay of the Ming Court. The Ming Court appointed Sun Chuanting straight out of jail, to be the new Supreme Commander of the 3 Frontiers. By the way I have not made much mention of it, but so many officials were jailed for failing their jobs, only to later be reappointed to that same job or another job and taken out of jail, it really was chaotic.    At this time the Ming official Wang Qiaonian decided to attack Xiangcheng in central Henan which had recently fallen to rebels. Wang led 10,000 well trained troops to take the city and found it relatively undefended, little did he know the rebels had moved on early. Unfortunately, once the rebels heard of Wang taking Xiangcheng they soon returned and surrounded the city. Wang along with many of his men would be killed in street fighting over the city. Zhang Xianzhong made an assault on Shucheng in southwestern Nan Zhili in march of 1642 which fell quite easily after a 3 day siege. Zhang changed the city's name to Desheng meaning “attained victory”. Over the next few months, Li Zicheng and Luo Rucai continued to raise hell in Henan, he rebel forces were rotting the Ming Dynasty to its core.   I would like to take this time to remind you all that this podcast is only made possible through the efforts of Kings and Generals over at Youtube. Please go subscribe to Kings and Generals over at Youtube and to continue helping us produce this content please check out www.patreon.com/kingsandgenerals. If you are still hungry after that, give my personal channel a look over at The Pacific War Channel at Youtube, it would mean a lot to me.  The Ming dynasty was like a roast beef rotting from the inside while being carved up from the outside. Droughts, famines and terrible administration led so many starving and wartorn peasants to join rebel groups and now Li Zicheng emerged the largest rebel leader amongst others who now held entire armies at their command. Yang Sichang began the disastrous “ten sided net plan” which resulted in many victories over the rebels, but at terrible costs. The more the Ming allocated resources towards quelling the rebels in the northwest and center of China, the weaker their northeastern frontier became, ripe for the plucking for Hung Taiji. Now Hung focused his attention on long term sieges of major Ming held fortresses outside the Great Walls, but once those fell he could attack China proper.   

    Politically Entertaining with Evolving Randomness (PEER) by EllusionEmpire
    109- Supreme Court is showing who's boss for better or worse and Big Tech get more selective with saved search results

    Politically Entertaining with Evolving Randomness (PEER) by EllusionEmpire

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2022 58:44


    Primary Politics- Army will extend vaccine mandates to National Guard and Army reserves. Supreme court has removed New York gun laws with a convoluted results making them more confusing than before. Also, Supreme court also provide mix results favoring Trump policies on one area while helping Biden policies on another area. Iran will face sanctions from the EU and they already gained enough uranium to create at least 2 nuclear weapons. New York City gave non-citizens voting rights but it was taken down by its state counterpart. Check the sources belowTimestamp: 15:42A. More army branches will need to get the vaccine.B. New York made guns rights more convoluted.C. Supreme Court gave one W to Trump and another to Biden.D. Iran will get new sanctions if Tehran does not agree with EU with their terms on nuclear deal.E. New York Supreme court took down a super unconstitutional law.Mid-tech- Google has changed its ways on removing certain search results and data regarding domestic shelters and abortion clinics. The Verge has provided tips to reduce digital footprint. The federal government is investigating major scams from cryptocurrencies and NFTs that has already stolen millions of dollars. Finally, TikTok "keeps assuring" US congress that data storage is safe from China.Timestamp: 34:09A. Google will change by saving only certain search results for political gain.B. Tips to reduce digital footprint even though I disagree of the context.C. Major scams being investigated by US government caused by Web 3.0.D. Tiktok vs Republicans on data trustWeird Topic Finally (WTF)- I will provide information and tips for you to celebrate 4th of July.Timestamp: 50:07A. Commercial tips from AxiosB. Gas prices and travel analysis from AxiosClick here if you want to be a guest on my podcast. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Kerouac to the Future
    Supreme Court coup

    Kerouac to the Future

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2022 25:17


    Is there any other way to describe what happened the last two weeks? Stay safe out there, folks.  Donate to abortion funds at https://abortionfunds.org/ Follow Kerouac at https://letterboxd.com/kafkajones/activity/  

    Relentless Daring
    Supreme Freak Out

    Relentless Daring

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2022 68:35


    Back from my vacation, and now I have a chance to look at the leftist freak outs over some of the high profile SCOTUS rulings, including Dobbs v Jackson overturning Roe and Casey. Also, in the spirit of Independence Day, a reading of the Declaration of Independence.   Support the show by donating or buying merch at www.relentlessdaring.com   Buy me a cup of coffee! www.ko-fi.com/tylermorganshow    Venmo me @RDMP84   Be sure to support our sponsors American Pride Roasters, Built Bar, Keto Chow, or Drizly Follow me on social media Twitter @TylerProduces Facebook @RelentlessDaring Parler @RelentlessDaring Instagram @RelentlessDaring    Email tyler@relentlessdaring.com   Ad music and intro music used with permission from Purple Planet www.purple-planet.com 

    Krishna's Mercy
    More Or Less Troublesome

    Krishna's Mercy

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2022 5:44


    “For those whose minds are attached to the unmanifested, impersonal feature of the Supreme, advancement is very troublesome. To make progress in that discipline is always difficult for those who are embodied.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-gita, 12.5)

    True Crime XS
    The Ripple (07.03.2022)

    True Crime XS

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2022 68:46


    This podcast was made possible by www.labrottiecreations.com Check out their merchandise and specifically their fun pop pet art custom pieces made from photos of your very on pets. Use the promo code CRIMEXS for 20% off a fun, brightly colored, happy piece of art of your own pet at their site. Music in this episode was licensed for True Crime XS. Our theme song today is Indestructible by Noah Smith. Additional music is Afterwards by Chelsea McGough. You can reach us at our website truecrimexs.com and you can leave us a voice message at 252-365-5593. Find us most anywhere with @truecrimexs Thanks for listening. Please like and subscribe if you want to hear more and you can come over to patreon.com/truecrimexs and check out what we've got going on there if you'd like to donate to fund future True Crime XS road trip investigations and FOIA requests. We also have some merchandise up at Teepublic http://tee.pub/lic/mZUXW1MOYxM Sources: www.namus.gov www.thecharleyproject.com www.newspapers.com Findlaw.com Various News Sources Mentioned by Name

    Mikey and Rinne Stay In
    The Supreme Dinner

    Mikey and Rinne Stay In

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2022 33:53


    The justices are headed over, the table is set...what are we serving?? On this episode, Mikey and Rinne discuss what they would serve to the 5 SCOTUS justices that they have...differing opinions from...in order to spark LIVELY conversation.    Reach out to us! letseat@mikeyandrinne.com

    IE Sports Radio
    The SoCal Supreme Sports Show: Episode 94

    IE Sports Radio

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 64:59


    Thank you for tuning in to episode 94 of the SoCal Supreme Sports Show. In this episode, Teran Rodriguez discusses the beginning of the Dodgers-Padres 4-game series. Can the Dodgers build off their 3-1 win on Thursday? Rodriguez also discusses LAFC continuing its winning ways by beating Dallas on Wednesday. Finally, Rodriguez discusses NWSL action involving the Wave and Angel City! The thoughts and opinions of Teran Rodriguez are his and his alone and not of any second- or third-party organizations. Twitter of show: @SoCalShowIESR Twitter of host: @TeranRodriguez1

    Newshour
    Russian missile strikes kill 21 in Ukraine's Odesa region

    Newshour

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 47:52


    Russian missile strikes kill at least 21 civilians at a resort near the port of Odesa. We speak to the mayor of the Ukrainian city: Hennadiy Trukhanov. Also in the programme: the Supreme leader of the Taliban in Afghanistan makes a rare public appearance. And 50 years on, a gay rights veteran remembers the first pride march in London. (Credit: A local man looks at the scene of a damaged residential building after shelling in the small city of Serhiivka near Odesa, southern Ukraine. Credit: BBC News).

    Words Matter
    Supreme Injustices

    Words Matter

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 32:31


    We're relaunching the show with new hosts Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel. Each week we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the show and we'd love to hear your feedback as we continue to shape it moving forward. If you have any comments feel free to send us an email at podcasts@thedsrnetwork.com.On this week's episode, we talk about the end of a monumental Supreme Court term and the explosive testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson before the January 6th committee. We ground all of our analysis in the words of Justice Barrett, Cassidy Hutchinson, and Kelly Shackelford.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/words-matter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    The Ricochet Audio Network Superfeed
    Three Martini Lunch: Reality vs. Gun Control, Greens Leaving D.C, Biden’s Gas Price Problem

    The Ricochet Audio Network Superfeed

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022


    Join Jim and Greg as they welcome the second amendment conversion of a New York liberal who now sees the value of a gun for self-defense and how restrictive laws don’t keep weapons away from bad guys. They also cheer the news that many environmental activists are packing up and leaving D.C. after Thursday’s Supreme […]

    Checks and Balance
    Checks and Balance: Supreme authority

    Checks and Balance

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 45:29


    As gridlock plagues the Capitol, across First Street the Supreme Court is transforming America. In this term alone, it has overturned the right to an abortion, loosened gun laws, eroded the separation of church and state and limited the federal government's ability to combat climate change. Public confidence in the institution is at a record low. How is the Supreme Court changing America and, as it does so, is it undermining itself? John Prideaux hosts with Charlotte Howard and our Supreme Court correspondent, Steven Mazie. They talk to Leah Litman, a professor at the University of Michigan and cohost of the Strict Scrutiny podcast, about how the justices have radically tipped the scales this term. We revisit another era in which the court tested the limits of its powers and transformed America. And Steve Vladeck, a professor at the University of Texas and author of “The Shadow Docket”, explains how the court's under-the-radar decision-making is damaging its authority.You can now find every episode of Checks and Balance in one place and sign up to our weekly newsletter. For full access to print, digital and audio editions, as well as exclusive live events, subscribe to The Economist at economist.com/uspod  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Economist Radio
    Checks and Balance: Supreme authority

    Economist Radio

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 45:29


    As gridlock plagues the Capitol, across First Street the Supreme Court is transforming America. In this term alone, it has overturned the right to an abortion, loosened gun laws, eroded the separation of church and state and limited the federal government's ability to combat climate change. Public confidence in the institution is at a record low. How is the Supreme Court changing America and, as it does so, is it undermining itself? John Prideaux hosts with Charlotte Howard and our Supreme Court correspondent, Steven Mazie. They talk to Leah Litman, a professor at the University of Michigan and cohost of the Strict Scrutiny podcast, about how the justices have radically tipped the scales this term. We revisit another era in which the court tested the limits of its powers and transformed America. And Steve Vladeck, a professor at the University of Texas and author of “The Shadow Docket”, explains how the court's under-the-radar decision-making is damaging its authority.You can now find every episode of Checks and Balance in one place and sign up to our weekly newsletter. For full access to print, digital and audio editions, as well as exclusive live events, subscribe to The Economist at economist.com/uspod See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Stirring The Pot: A Podcast
    17: Ep. 17 - Supreme Justice

    Stirring The Pot: A Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 26:57


    It's been feeling a little extra ghettoish out here in America lately. In this episode I cover how the Supreme Court just turned a lot of lives upside down last week - By eliminating women's rights to choose abortion. Allowing prayers in schools. Removing gun restrictions. It's about to get extra funky out here! Strap up. PUN INTENDED! Let's cook -- Stirring The Pot. Social Media: IG / FB Stirring The Pot - @StirringThePotTalks / facebook.com/STPtalks

    Alabama's Morning News with JT

    Fox News Radio's Eben Brown discusses the Supreme Court's decision regarding the Trump era "stay in Mexico" Policy

    Morning Air
    Mary Hallan Fiorito, Legal Lense of Post Roe World/ Fr. Casey Cole, Check in with Bleacher Brothers

    Morning Air

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 49:36


    7/1/22 7am CT Hour John and Sarah chat about respecting the elderly and the 4th of July holiday. Mary breaks down President Biden's remarks about the Supreme court's recent rulings and what the American people believe about abortion laws. Fr. Casey shares his journey around the country this summer visiting baseball parks and teaching the fans about Jesus in a new way.

    The Daily Zeitgeist
    The Minions Are The Zodiac Killer, Big Win For Air Pollution 07.01.22

    The Daily Zeitgeist

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 64:40


    In episode 1278, Jack and guest co-host Jacquis Neal are joined by comedian, writer, and director Sara June to discuss… Supreme Court Rules In Favor of Pollution Basically, Biden Supports Suspending The Filibuster To Codify Abortion Rights, Minions Are Priming Us For The New World Order and/or Satan and more! Supreme Court Rules In Favor of Pollution Basically Biden Supports Suspending The Filibuster To Codify Abortion Rights Minions Are Priming Us For The New World Order and/or Satan Eastern-Style Hats: Style 1 | Style 2 LISTEN: The Right Way Around by Daughter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Cults, Cryptids, and Conspiracies
    Episode 265: Real Life Versus Fiction

    Cults, Cryptids, and Conspiracies

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 106:24


    It's been a week as we move into a new phase of American life. This week we discuss the People of Praise and the connection to a current supreme court judge. Amy Coney Barrett has a long history with this Cult and its ties and the tales it comes from are not all wholesome or righteous. Thanks for listening and remember to like, rate, review, and email us at: cultscrytpidsconspiracies@gmail.com or tweet us at @C3Podcast. Also check out our Patreon: www.patreon.com/cultscryptidsconspiracies. Thank you to T.J. Shirley for our theme.

    Off Topic/On Politics
    Primary recap: low turnout leads to few surprises

    Off Topic/On Politics

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 30:53


    This week's primary election resulted in very few surprises and a shockingly low turnout. Was it voter apathy? Fatigue? Confusion? NY1 political reporters Zack Fink, Courtney Gross and Juan Manuel Benítez analyzed what may have happened on election night. They also discussed why progressive candidates fared so poorly on Tuesday, despite indications that they may have a strong showing. After that, the team discussed Gov. Kathy Hochul convening a special session in Albany around New York's gun laws, in response to the Supreme Court's recent gun decision. They weigh in on Hochul's proposals, and how it could affect New Yorkers. We want to hear from you, especially what you think about the candidates for governor. Leave a message: 212-379-3440 Email: yourstoryny1@charter.com

    Was That In Good Taste?
    SUPREME (Yes that one)

    Was That In Good Taste?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 82:07


    WOMENS RIGHTS ARE NOT A JOKE! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/was-that-in-good-taste/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/was-that-in-good-taste/support

    Up In The Mix
    This Court Ain't Supreme

    Up In The Mix

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 98:45


    Returning guest Lily Baran joins us this week to offer advice on how to react to recent Supreme Court decisions. We also discuss the viability of potato salads on hot summer days and discuss how Beyonce and Drake are trying to bring dancing back to the club.

    3 Yards and A Cloud of Smoke

    The Cloud of Smoke Boys are back again this week with another hilarious episode! During preshow LPJ details how he is over going out in the city while Rainbow Al and fam found themselves in the middle of PRIDE fest. From there we intro the show and immediately have to address our takes from last week's episode about the Omarion/ Mario Verzuz on Thursday. The guys walk their takes back and we break down the whole night. We then get into a more serious topic and discuss Roe V. Wade and how the Supreme court's ruling affects Americans. Finally, we wrap by discussing a father bringing McDonalds for only his child while his baby mom has 3 other children. Is he wrong? We debate that and so much more! Don't miss out! Tune in now!

    Right and Wrong
    Episode 18 - Clarence Thomas & The Supremes

    Right and Wrong

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 71:35


    We have a Supreme episode of the Right and Wrong show today! We'll be talking about some of the major rulings that were made by the Supreme Court this past week. We'll discuss the Dobbs decision and debunk some of the common leftist talking points.Religious rights are alive and well because of the rulings in the Coach Kennedy V Bremerton School District and the Carson V Makin cases.We're also going to talk about the major win for the second amendment in the right to carry case against the state of New York. We've also got our Rights and Wrongs of the week and the always popular “Come On Man” segment of the day.

    Your Sunday Drive
    Your Sunday Drive 4.6 - Roe Is Overturned... Now What?

    Your Sunday Drive

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 64:26


    Abortion is no longer a constitutional right, as Roe vs. Wade is overturned in a historic supreme court decision. But now what? Especially for Christians, what should we be doing? How should we be reacting? (And *not* reacting?)We dig into the decision, the politics, the worldviews behind pro-life and pro-choice positions, how worldviews influence politics, the reactions people have been having so far to the decision, how to react in a more Jesus-like manner, and more. Come along for Your Sunday Drive - quick conversation about current events, politics, pop culture and more, from the perspective of a couple of guys trying to follow Jesus.Hosts: Matt Hill and Nate Polzin. Presented by the Church in Drive of Saginaw, MI, as often as possible. Please visit churchindrive.com and facebook.com/thechurchindrive Required attributions: Straight Through by Groove Bakery | https://groovebakery.com; Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com; Attribution-NoDerivatives 4.0 International (CC BY-ND 4.0); https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/; Source images via Google.

    Ignore the Rant
    81 - Hot Takes Supreme

    Ignore the Rant

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 171:30


    The supply of hot takes exceeds demand but that won't stop us from jumping in. An untimely death connected with 1/6 gets glossed over while Ghislaine gets 20yrs for trafficking children to….no one? Uvalde PD continues to stockpile L's. The reaction to the Supreme Court's rulings prove why they're correct. We close out pride month with a clip from an unreleased episode that surpasses even our own bigotry standards.   Jim's recent appearances: Rebel w a Cause “Ignoring Rants w/ Magoo” https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rebel-with-a-cause/id1262921973?i=1000567606201 Outlawed Thoughts ep.19 https://youtu.be/4KlSKOwAc2Q   Upcoming appearances: Jim Breuer's Somebody Had to Say It (Patreon Podcast) https://www.patreon.com/jimbreuercomedyspecial   Follow the show: IG: @ignoretherant Twitter: @ignoretherant

    Podlitical
    Supreme Court Super Geek-Out

    Podlitical

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 32:01


    The team take a deep dive into the potential plans for a second independence referendum as Holyrood breaks for summer recess. What avenues do the Scottish Government and First Minister Nicola Sturgeon have for indyref2, and in which ways might these plans be scuppered? From a "gold standard" Section 30 order referendum, to a legal fight in the Supreme court, how might the next year in Scotland's constitutional battle unfold?

    Newsie's Nook
    So Pissed at SCOTUS, I Pissed my Pants feat. Jake

    Newsie's Nook

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 35:39


    This week, Newsie provides resources after the Supreme's Court decision to overturn Roe versus Wade, then Newsie reveals a recording of him wetting his pants.

    Making the Argument with Nick Freitas
    The Real Reason The Left Hates This Supreme Court

    Making the Argument with Nick Freitas

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 61:50


    The Supreme Court's recent decisions on Roe v. Wade have enraged the Left. Now, some are even calling for violence against the court. Here's what you need to know about the court's role in defending the Constitution.

    The Dallas Morning News
    Special report: Texas women speak

    The Dallas Morning News

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 24:59


    On June 24, the U.S. Supreme court overruled Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 case that originated in Dallas county that legalized abortion. As the nation grapples with the high court's decision and the debates that came with it, we wanted to better understand those who think there is still common ground.

    The State of Us
    The End of Roe v Wade and What it Means

    The State of Us

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 38:51


    The decision to overturn Roe v Wade has given each state the opportunity to approach abortion differently. Justin and Lance break down the possible repercussions of the decision and discuss the history of states' rights in America. tags: tsou, justin weller, lance jackson, abortion, life, choice, female, reproductive rights, woman, baby, trimester, conception, states, roe, wade, supreme court, freedom, unites states, politics

    Them Boys
    The Supreme Driving Test

    Them Boys

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 62:50


    Them boys laugh through the pain of the supreme court fallout, make some predictions, and buckle up for a bumpy ride. Get tickets to Setoiyo's helium show here: https://philadelphia.heliumcomedy.com/shows/179657 Follow us on twitter here: https://twitter.com/ThemBoysPod

    Simulation
    #794 Aaron Abke — Supreme Devotion

    Simulation

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 100:55


    Aaron Abke is passionate about teaching Unity Consciousness and Spiritual Awakening to the world, he does so via YouTube, social media, masterclasses, and workshops, primarily teaching through texts such as A Course In Miracles and The Law of One. Instagram ► https://instagram.com/aaronabke YouTube ► https://youtube.com/AaronAbke Website ► https://aaronabke.com LinkTree ► https://linktr.ee/aaronabke ACIM 2022 Year Long Study ► https://livingthecourse.com Mastery Your Mind 8-week course ► https://aaron-abke.com/apply43038113 Law of One Book Club ► https://almost30.com/law-of-one-book-club Conscious Vitality ► https://consciousvitality.com/#a_aid=aabke No Limits Society ► https://bentinhomassaro.com/nls What is I? ► https://bit.ly/WhatisI High Level Perception ► https://highlevelperception.com

    The Young Turks
    Supreme Backpedal

    The Young Turks

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 54:50


    Ginni Thomas, who had previously signaled she would talk to the Jan 6 committee is now backing out after Hutchingson's testimony and had her lawyer send a letter to the committee saying he does “not understand the need to speak with Mrs. Thomas. Senior Secret Service agents are reportedly prepared to testify that Donald Trump did not lunge for the wheel of his vehicle or physically attack the chief of his security detail after his speech near the White House on January 6 – as a former aide said he did in sworn testimony on Tuesday. After Sean Hannity says he doubts Michigan would ever ban abortion, a GOP Rep tells him it already has. Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake had a heated exchange with Fox News host Bret Baier on Monday evening after he asked her about about allegations that she was a drag queen's fan. The cost of buying insurance protection against mass shootings has spiked more than 10% in the United States this year following a string of deadly events.Host: Ana Kasparian**The largest online progressive news show in the world. Hosted by Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian. LIVE weekdays 6-8 pm ET.Help support our mission and get perks. Membership protects TYT's independence from corporate ownership and allows us to provide free live shows that speak truth to power for people around the world. See Perks: ▶ https://www.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/joinSUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=theyoungturksFACEBOOK: ☞ http://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurksTWITTER: ☞ http://www.twitter.com/TheYoungTurksINSTAGRAM: ☞ http://www.instagram.com/TheYoungTurksTWITCH: ☞ http://www.twitch.com/tyt

    Bart and Hahn
    Hour 3: The Cheeze-It Supreme

    Bart and Hahn

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 44:29


    Jason Fitz & Freddie Coleman continue to speak about the NBA free agency that's about to kick off later this week and what the NY Knicks, outside of the proposed Jalen Brunson deal, will do. They also bring in the callers & is a cheeze-it in a crunchwrap a good idea? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Brian Wallenberg Show
    Roe vs. Wade Overturned

    Brian Wallenberg Show

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 61:36


    On this program I talk about; The Supreme Court has overturned New York's unconstitional gun law, and Roe vs. Wade. Republicans are introducing bills to protect women's sports and to protect the giant sequoias in California. The Minnesota Supreme Court ruled that Minneapolis must hire more police officers. Chicago City council says Chigago police can no longer chase people on foot. CNN has their worst ratings ever. A Burger King employee who has worked for 27 years finally gets rewarded. Kellogg's has announced it will split into three companies. A 30,000 year old mammoth has been uncovered in Canada that still has hair and skin on it. -Thank you for listening!-

    Awake Church Winston Salem
    Hebrews, Part 1 - Supreme Jesus | Matt Peterson | June 26 2022

    Awake Church Winston Salem

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 44:56


    The scriptures are a treasure of priceless value and in them is the description and knowledge of Jesus. The book of Hebrews describes and reinforces the supreme nature of Jesus, reminding us that He is over all, has the greatest name and is superior in love to all.

    The Joyce Kaufman Show
    The Joyce Kaufman Show 6/29/22

    The Joyce Kaufman Show

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 43:04


    Joyce discusses the Supreme court decision on Roe V. Wade and the commentary that the media is providing without research. She expresses concern for the "unexperienced" young people who are running the country right now. Joyce talks about the violence in todays society and the reaction of certain groups of people when they don't get their way. Adam Andrzejewski of OpentheBooks.com calls in to discuss the government corruption, following the money, and wasteful spending. She follows up on the deaths of 50 immigrants who found dead in a tractor trailer in Texas.

    First Response: COVID-19 and Religious Liberty
    Prayer Wins! Supreme Victory for Coach

    First Response: COVID-19 and Religious Liberty

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 17:40


    Watch Coach Kennedy react to his Supreme Court victory from today! We are celebrating this huge win for religious liberty and unpacking what the SCOTUS opinion means for millions of teachers and coaches across the country. FLI's President and CEO Kelly Shackelford joins Stuart Shepard to provide the inside details on the ruling and how monumental it will be for our First Freedom.

    The Daily Zeitgeist
    Hilariously Late To Crypto Party, Time For Some Action 06.29.22

    The Daily Zeitgeist

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 57:25


    In episode 1277, Jack and Miles are joined by esthetician, podcaster, and host of Beauty Translated, Carmen Laurent, to discuss… VP Harris had a chance to voice a plan…, Time for a Third Party?, Don't Take Financial Advice From Hostess Twinkies and more! VP Harris had a chance to voice a plan… Time for a Third Party? Is Polarized America Primed for a Breakout Third Party? New Jersey Centrists Seek to Legalize Their Dream: The Moderate Party Progressive Backlash in California Fuels Democratic Debate Over Crime Don't Take Financial Advice From Hostess Twinkies Hostess debuts $TWINKcoin snack, inspired by cryptocurrency Hostess' New Snack Cakes' Name Has Shoppers Confused Strike threat at Hostess could kill off Twinkies Have Twinkies Killed the Union Movement? What Saved Hostess And Twinkies: Automation And Firing 95% Of The Union Workforce LISTEN: I Got It by Ogi See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    115 Miles
    Supreme injustice, woke builders and striking at the heart of power

    115 Miles

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 64:52


    In this week's episode, Josh fires us up with 3 crazy facts about life...we hope you'll be as amazed as Has was about some of them. From there, a check in leads us to having a conversation about Anxiety and how to acknowledge and deal with our feelings in the moment. We go deep on Roe Vs Wade being overturned and explore our views and responsibilities as men here in the UK.  We discuss a recent Daily Mail article ridiculing builders for being 'woke' because they discuss their feelings, do Yoga and and don't eat fry ups. And finally, we talk about the importance of protests in keeping those in power from becoming autocrats and dictators. A big conversation with lots of juiciness and you'll learn how to get to the moon too!  

    With a Side of Chaos Podcast
    With a Side of Chaos - Supreme Panel

    With a Side of Chaos Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 72:19


    HOLY CRAP, the SCOTUS did some crazy stuff. The chaotic duo made a last minute change to the line up and sits down with Local Bad ass Amber Schmidt, manager of the Property Manager at The Veranda at Thornton Park Felicia Vestal and local journalist Rachel Christian to talk about the Supreme Courts decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. Plus the panel talks about the Inaugural Thornton Park Chili Cookoff, and some of the local chaos in Orlando.Welcome to the Chaos... yep, we made that transition

    The Daily Zeitgeist
    Is There A Plan? Amazon Running Out Of Exploitable Humans 06.28.22

    The Daily Zeitgeist

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2022 64:23


    In episode 1276, Jack and Miles are joined by storyteller and lead creative strategist for Salted Logic, Hina Wilkerson, to discuss… What's the plan Dems?, White Christian Men Are So Horny to Be The One Thing They Can't Be In America- Oppressed for Being White And Christian And Men, Leaked Amazon memo - "We are running out of labor to exploit..." and more! What's the plan Dems? Democratic women call on Biden, Congress to protect abortion rights White Christian Men Are So Horny to Be The One Thing They Can't Be In America- Oppressed for Being White And Christian And Men Leaked Amazon memo - 'We are running out of labor to exploit...' LISTEN: For You by Kadhja Bonet See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Shine Brighter Together
    Roe vs Wade

    Shine Brighter Together

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2022 29:29


    In this episode, Monique talks about the recent Supreme court decision to overturn Roe vs Wade, what that means, and how that might play out. Be sure to join in and listen to this powerful episode as she discusses in detail how this affects our human rights.   If you are interested in learning more about the Unity Over Comfort self-paced program, click here.    *Remember to subscribe and review the podcast. Share your takeaways from the podcast with the hashtag #sbtpodcast.   Connect with Monique:   Sign up here to stay up to date on the Shine Brighter Together Podcast and keep in touch with Monique. IG: @moemotivate Get Monique's book EntrepreFriendships Support the podcast on Patreon: www.patreon.com/shinebrightertogether 

    Coffee & Comics Podcast
    EPISODE 75 - ARCHIE'S WEIRD MYSTERIES "SUPREME GIRL VS DR. ARACHNID"

    Coffee & Comics Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2022


    Prof Alan swings by to discuss an episode of the animated series ARCHIE'S WEIRD MYSTERIES. Watch Archie's Weird Mysteries on Tubi Watch the episode on YouTube A podcast covering comics and related media in the span of a coffee break.

    The Secret Teachings
    The Secret Teachings 6/27/22 - We The Mob v. the Rule of Law

    The Secret Teachings

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2022 120:01


    Some are so angry with the SCOTUS that they wish to pack it or abolition it entirely, and while they are at it overturn Congressional procedure and dictate with the President's pen. They proceeded in a collective mob to attack state buildings un unison and call the court fascist. Agree or not with the SCOTUS in Dobbs it is unlikely the left or right took the time to read the 213 page opinion. Inside its pages were scientific and moral reasoning that "a 15-week ban provides sufficient time, absent rare circumstances, for a woman ‘to decide for herself ‘whether to terminate her pregnancy.” Since all are guaranteed "life, liberty" it would be easy to argue that the U.S. Constitution actually protects such new life, if a definition upon "life" could be established, and therefore bans abortion except in rare cases. Still, the Court simply turned the matter over to state legislatures empowered by the democratic vote of the citizenry. Republicans and Democrats are calling for all restrictions, which were allowed in Roe (1973) and Casey (1992), to be considered "bans" despite that such bans still allow abortion, usually before 15 weeks for any reason, and then also for issues of sexual violence and medical issues. The court went further to acknowledge that certain past decisions such as Plessy (1896) were repugnant and that the court does not make "absolute" decisions. The mob arguing in disfavor of the court is suggesting that the court should make absolute decisions, just in their favor. The court even reaffirmed that Roe (1973), in its original text, never provided an absolute right to abortion, and that a "license to act on the basis" of such absolutely free "beliefs may correspond to one of the many understandings of ‘liberty,' but it is certainly not ‘ordered liberty.' Ordered liberty sets limits and defines the boundary between competing interests.”

    Pew Time
    101: Supreme Divisions, Kimberbates, NATS flocks south, Concealed Carry Fashion Show

    Pew Time

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2022 31:52


    Episode 101: On this episode, NATS jumping south, Kimber rebates, Supreme Divisions, and we attended a Concealed Carry Fashion Show Again thank you guys! We love ya and will talk to you next week! Please help us out by rating and reviewing the podcast! Thank you! Got questions? Email us at pewtimepodcast@gmail.com If you want to book Tony for a class email him at performancegun@gmail.com Looking for some new range wear? Head over to https://www.laughnload.com to check out some of the shirts, hats, hoodies and more that are currently available. What to check out some more from us you can search Laugh n Load on IG, FB and YouTube. FB: https://www.facebook.com/252407111792056/ IG: https://instagram.com/laughnload?igshid=tm0tboj9syru YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvK8P5NQ_sCpz1Hwasmd62Q

    Live From My Office
    Supreme Shock

    Live From My Office

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2022 36:07


    The end of Roe V Wade was a big focus of today's Steve Cochran Show on WLS AM 890, so we wanted to give you some of the highlights here. I'll share my thoughts, and talk to an actual expert, Evan Bernick Associate Professor at Northern Illinois University School of Law. Stick around to hear an actual hero, Idriz Redzovic. Thanks for listening!SHOW NOTESPick up an Obvious Shirt. It helps, and you look cool. It's that easy.Listen to me on the radio weekday mornings from 5:30-9:00 on WLS AM 890, online, on your smart speaker, or on the TuneIn Radio App! Subscribe to Live From My Office on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.Follow Steve on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and LinkedIn.Win an ABT gift card by emailing me three of your friends emails who you think would like the show, and include your mailing address in the email. Check out the details here.Email the show with any questions, comments, or plugs for your favorite charity.