Official Secrets

Jack is joined by Keith Hackett, who refereed at the highest level in England, Europe and across the world, before becoming general manager of PGMOL. In Part 1, Keith shares stories from his on-field career and some of the lessons learned along the way. Music: "Feelin' Good" Kevin MacLeod (http://www.incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Sound Effects: http://www.freesfx.co.uk

Alyson Rudd joins Jack to discuss a unique route into refereeing. The journalist for The Times and The Sunday Times goes on to share her views on the media's coverage of match officials and the biggest change she's seen in more than 25 years of covering football. Music: "Feelin' Good" Kevin MacLeod (http://www.incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Sound Effects: http://www.freesfx.co.uk

The first guest on Official Secrets is Ashley Hickson-Lovence, who joins Jack to discuss his rise from grassroots to semi-professional level. Ashley also discusses his new novel, Your Show, which is a fictionalised account of the life and career of the Premier League's only ever black referee — Uriah Rennie. Music: "Feelin' Good" Kevin MacLeod (http://www.incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Sound Effects: http://www.freesfx.co.uk