Too Extra Ordinary Podcast

After the passing of Notorious RGB the Supreme Court and this country are mourning, fighting and processing what happens next. Johnna and Alexis are processing the good but also the nuanced parts of her time as one of the justices for the highest court in the land. What is her lasting impact and how will […]

America needs to pay up. But they don’t want to. Trump’s gang of hoodlums don’t believe anything is owed to black people despite clear evidence of stolen wealth. As the presidential debates rev up “reparations” is a major topic of discussion but why is it worth talking about? If no one involved in slavery is […]

During a traumatic incident, our thought processes can become scattered and disorganized in such a way that we no longer recognize the memories as belonging to the original event. Instead, fragments of memory, dispersed as images, body sensations and words are stored in our unconscious and can become activated later by anything even remotely reminiscent […]

A and J talk about them changes. The ladies navigate the politics of being pregnant in 2019. American mothers die in childbirth at higher rates than in any other developed country — and those most at risk are mothers of color.  Despite medical advancements and published research women of color continue to suffer negative outcomes […]

In this episode, J+A debrief the Kavanaugh episode which leads to a discussion about the time, place, and effectiveness of anger. How do we move well-intentioned people? Ourselves? How do we hold the time and place for passion and anger? And, it wouldn’t be TEO if we didn’t debrief the recent House elections and the […]

A and J get real. In an attempt to truly explore intersectional feminism, J and A try something different this time. You’ll first hear a solo session from each women about their reaction to the Kavanaugh hearings. After, the two lament (with no wine this time) over the installation of Brett Kavanaugh and the (stark) […]

We open season 3 with a poem by Gil Scott-Heron called “Whitey on the Moon.” He sets the tone appropriately as J+A tackle whiteness and dominant culture and how it impacts us all negatively. J+A dig into white fragility, and how white folk’s inability to talk about, tackle, and educate themselves on whiteness and racism […]

Kick off your flip flops, pour the cold kind of cider cause It’s been a while. The ladies get fancy (with new mics) chatting it up after a long hiatus about everything from work life balance, new projects and summer time books that are bringing them healing. In this season’s final episode the women wrangle […]

After time away A and J come back fired up over some recent exciting triumphs. The queen Beyoncé owned Coachella and Donald Glover now owns our entire beings with the “This is America” video. The ladies grapple with police brutality, the economizing of black trauma and how much is too much in the showcasing of […]

Johnna and Alexis have seen Black Panther (actually, J has three times…) and they are pumped to talk about both the joy, and the intensity that came along with their viewing experiences and post-viewing analysis. They compare their own personal analysis and experiences through the lens of whiteness, colonization, feminism, and liberation.

In this episode, Johnna and Alexis attempt – what was supposed to be a an easy and lighthearted – conversation comparing the HBO shows Girls and Insecure. Listen as they discuss similarities, differences, and racial undertones of each show. True to form, the conversation takes an [un]expected turn as J and A struggle through some […]

The ladies lament over the movement. With the recent firing and resignation of powerful congressmen, politicians, producers and leaders Alexis and Johnna work through their feelings of what it means to exist in a world where safe spaces for women are finally on the brink of being established. But what are the drawbacks? Is this […]

In this episode, Johnna and Alexis dive deep into the “hot topic” of cultural appropriation, using the very specific example of white people dressing up in afro wigs.

To launch Season 2, Johnna and Alexis discuss why they started Too Extra Ordinary, how they came together back in college, and what they hope you get from their podcast. J and A also reflect on what it’s like to “air out” their opinions in public, and the importance of vulnerability, honesty, and learning in […]

It’s not being easy green or- black or – brown or anything but white in the work place. Johnna and Alexis team up to discuss the politics of race in the workplace. And the two face off on the age old question – “How can the work place become inclusive, safe and equitable for EVERYONE.

The Gospel according to HOV. The ladies work through their feelings and even explore the nostalgia of 4:44. An album, that explores black love, economics,  family legacy and politics. None of these concepts are new to black music but what does it mean for the movement that we are in right now to have Jay […]

A and J take another visit to the sunken place but also La La Land as they look to get real about “Black Hollywood” and evening the playing field.

It is no secret that to be a person of color and alive right now in America means constantly being picked apart and expected to be the best and more strongest version of yourself. But is that healthy? In “You gotta right to be mad” Alexis and Johnna examine why the full gamete of emotions […]

Alexis and Johnna discuss the age-old “piece of the pie” theory and put it to the test during the age of Trump. If we live in a Meritocracy why is so much of our society controlled by individuals who don’t actually have merit. Can we really all win? The ladies look to TaNehasi and the […]

Nation divided. Where do we go from here? What does it mean to be white in America? Does whiteness have a culture separate from conquering and violence? Alexis and Johnna talk reconstruction, the mayflower, and the truth about “hardwork”.