Relatable AF with Heather & Steph

We washed our faces and rid ourselves of the self-help culture so now what? In this episode, Heather and Steph will explore what life looks like after leaving self-help and the journey to deconstruct the messages they absorbed during that time. Have a show topic idea or want to contact us? Email our assistant Rachel at rachel@relatalbeafpodcast.com Keep up with the show on Instagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/relatableaf.podcast/ Don't miss a live episode, subscribe to our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS79_Z3aTkvplULhXHYfotg?sub_confirmation=1 Make sure to follow us on Tiktok

Guess who's back? Back again? Yes, we are back, tell a friend. Steph sold her house and Heather dated Peyton Manning (well her daughter believes she did). We both had some crazy weeks but we are back and working on getting on a schedule for you all. Rachel Hollis is back too and podcasting, as well as just nonstop talking, and we are going to talk ALL about it. In this episode, we discuss Rachel's latest podcasts with Tony Robbins & Skinny Confidential as well as her latest Rach Talks. We end up trying to wrap our brains around how we hold these people, specifically Rachel Hollis accountable. Have a show topic idea or want to contact us? Email our assistant Rachel at rachel@relatalbeafpodcast.com Keep up with the show on Instagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/relatableaf.podcast/ Don't miss a live episode, subscribe to our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS79_Z3aTkvplULhXHYfotg?sub_confirmation=1 Make sure to follow us on Tiktok

Will Jen Shah go to prison? We don't know the answer, but we discuss her arrest and pretrial motions in this episode. Jen Shah is a Housewife on the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and is married to Sharrieff Shah, a college football coach. She is currently facing charges of conspiracy to commit wire fraud in connection with telemarketing and conspiracy to commit money laundering. Her assistant Stuart Smith has pleaded guilty but Jen is going to trial this summer and there's a lot of pretrial activity to catch up on. Here's the U.S. Department of Justice Press Release on Shah and Stuart's arrest: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/reality-show-cast-members-charged-running-nationwide-telemarketing-fraud-scheme Curious if you could serve on the jury for Jen Shah's trial? Here are the voir dire questions her attorneys proposed for prospective jurors: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21211186-shahproposedvoirdirequestions Have a show topic idea or want to contact us? Email our assistant Rachel at rachel@relatalbeafpodcast.com Keep up with the show on Instagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/relatableaf.podcast/ Don't miss a live episode, subscribe to our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS79_Z3aTkvplULhXHYfotg?sub_confirmation=1 Make sure to follow us on Tiktok

Who is Jenn Shah? What are her "businesses" that she runs? Why was she arrested? How is Jen's case different from Teresa Guidice or Erika Jayne? Stephanie will bring the questions and background while Heather brings us the legal heat, both will provide their own commentary on this Shah-mazing episode. Send you Jen Shah questions for our next episode to our assistant Rachel at rachel@relatableafpodcast.com. Thanks for listening! Make sure to follow us on Tiktok ▶️ https://www.tiktok.com/@heatherthelawyer https://www.tiktok.com/@stephwtom Don't miss any of our live recordings, subscribe to our YouTube channel

The world is heavy so we wanted to provide a light-hearted discussion this week. We went live on Heather's YouTube channel on Saturday! Steph discusses pleasure toys and Heather brings “Am I The Asshole” threads to discuss. Send our assistant Rachel an email with your thoughts and ideas for future episodes, rachel@relatableafpodcast.com. Thank you for listening and be sure to give us a review or share this with a friend! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/relatableafpodcast/support

BOOM the divorce hits and we are left with questions and confusions…and Dave all over Instagram. Where does the community go from here? How are we moving on from the Hollises and deconstructing? In this episode we finish up the Hollis timeline and share some of the stories from YOU! The Hollis Hole Timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gKutvmr584GtuaGSQ6RFRbwzntKl6LpW7NQmWVH1LI0/edit?usp=sharing Austin Channing Brown Tweets to White Female Influencers: https://twitter.com/austinchanning/status/1253873583761305601 Ohavia Phillips Instagram Video to Influencers: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CA3RttpBISw/ Be There In Five Podcast: https://bethereinfive.com/podcast Savy's Video Interviewing Rachel Hollis's Former Employee: https://youtu.be/P1JdNdJ1SN4 Rachel's “Relatable” TikTok: https://youtube.com/shorts/-qkW4Tn8eeE Luvvie's Twitter Reaction to Rachel's TikTok: https://twitter.com/luvvie/status/1378547468024041472 Luvvie's Apology Tweets: https://twitter.com/Luvvie/status/1378766559041183746 Heather's First TikTok on Rachel: https://youtu.be/HvgOSuALhHU “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Peggy McIntosh: https://psychology.umbc.edu/files/2016/10/White-Privilege_McIntosh-1989.pdf Rachel's Last TikTok: https://youtu.be/Ld55W9pfFM8 Keya's World Attends Rachel's RISE Conference Virtually: https://youtu.be/gzuJ1wb_Ov8 Dave Hollis “Pancake” Instagram Live: https://youtu.be/eAVhXDlkInQ Former Fan Stories in Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/rt9680/calling_former_rh_fans/ Send our assistant Rachel an email with your thoughts and ideas for future episodes, rachel@relatableafpodcast.com. Thank you for listening and be sure to give us a review or share this with a friend! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/relatableafpodcast/support

Did you know Rachel built her business in a $1.4M house? There's a lot of information we didn't receive as fans and this is why we wanted to give a timeline of Rachel and Dave's life. Content Warning: self harm The goal of this very long and sort of dry podcast timeline is to help people understand more about Rachel and Dave Hollis. Let us know what stood out to you and/or your Hollis story by emailing our assistant Rachel at rachel@relatableafpodcast.com Timeline document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gKutvmr584GtuaGSQ6RFRbwzntKl6LpW7NQmWVH1LI0/edit?usp=sharing Reddit Community https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/ Thank you for listening and be sure to give us a review or share this with a friend! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/relatableafpodcast/support

Did you follow Rachel Hollis before she fell from grace on the internet? Heather and Stephanie were both big fans of Rachel and implemented her advice in their lives. Only to find false promises, unqualified advice, and new information about the Hollises that changes everything. This episode deep dives into Heather and Steph's relationship with Rachel and the falling out. How did we find Rachel? What did our lives look like at the time? What attracted us to Rachel? How involved were we with her brand, coaching, and products? How did it change us? How did we get out of the Hollis hole? Our deconstructing journey PARASOCIAL RESEARCH https://www.psypost.org/2021/10/longitudinal-study-shows-how-parasocial-relationships-changed-over-time-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-61924 Quote from the article “Parasocial closeness, on the other hand, significantly increased during the pandemic, particularly among those lower in attachment anxiety and higher in parasocial engagement. In addition, participants who experienced a greater decline in face-to-face communication tended to have a greater growth in parasocial closeness, suggesting that some “participants developed more meaningful socioemotional bonds with their favorite celebrities and fictional characters” to compensate for social deficiencies, the researchers said.” Thanks for listening and be sure to go to our TikToks @heatherthelawyer & @stephwtom to leave a comment about our part 2 on Rachel Hollis. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/relatableafpodcast/support

You've seen their TikToks (mostly Heather's) and now you get to enjoy their dialogue, this is the Relatable AF podcast with Heather and Steph! This episode introduces you to your hosts Heather @Heatherthelawyer and Steph @stephwtom, why they created this podcast, what this podcast will be all about, and the best part of responding to TikTok questions from you! They are just two millennial women who met on TikTok navigating their self-help past, present-day issues with an amazing community of listeners, YOU! Thanks for listening and be sure to follow us on TikTok so you can catch us live and send us your questions and comments. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/relatableafpodcast/support