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Hörsaal - Deutschlandfunk Nova
Privilegienkritik neu gedacht - Was heißt hier eigentlich Privileg?

Hörsaal - Deutschlandfunk Nova

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2025 54:45


Ein Vortrag des Erziehungswissenschaftlers Markus Rieger-LadichModeration: Katja Weber **********"Ich als alter weißer Mann..." - diese Aussage signalisiert: Ich bin auf der Höhe der Zeit, ich kenne die gängigen Diskurse. Aber als ritualisierte Beichte bringt diese Erkenntnis gar nichts, meint der Erziehungswissenschaftler Markus Rieger-Ladich.Markus Rieger-Ladich ist Professor für Allgemeine Erziehungswissenschaft an der Universität Tübingen. 2022 erschien sein Band "Das Privileg. Kampfvokabel und Erkenntnisinstrument". Seinen Vortrag mit dem Titel "Was heißt hier Privileg? - Privilegienkritik neu gedacht" hat er auf Einladung des Hörsaals am 11. Oktober 2024 anlässlich des Pocast-Festivals Beats & Bones gehalten. **********Schlagworte: +++ Freiheitsrechte +++ Menschenrechte +++ Feminismus +++ Klassismus +++ Status +++ Soziologie +++ Erziehungswissenschaftler +++ Tradition +++**********Ihr hört in diesem Hörsaal:00:02:20 - Gespräch vor dem Vortrag und was Rieger-Ladichs Oma damit zu tun hat00:08:04 - Beginn Vortrag: Einleitung, These und Überblick00:10:33 - Privileg aus rechtstheoretischer Perspektive00:16:41 - Der Begriff Privileg in der Bildungssoziologie der 1960er und 1970er Jahre00:17:49 - Privilegienkritik als Kampfbegriff in emanzipatorischen Bewegungen00:38:30 - Herausforderungen für einen Neustart der Debatte00: 42:32 - Publikumsfragen nach dem Vortrag**********Empfehlungen aus der Folge:Mohamed Amjahid. Unter Weißen. Was es heißt, privilegiert zu sein. München: Hanser Berlin 2017.Aus Politik und Zeitgeschichte: Privilegien. Bonn: Bundeszentrale für Politische Bildung 2024.Rolf Becker/Wolfgang Lauterbach (Hrsg.): Bildung als Privileg. Erklärungen und Befunde zu den Ursachen der Bildungsungleichheit. 5., erweitere Auflage. Wiesbaden: SpringerVS 2016.Pierre Bourdieu/Jean-Claude Passeron. Die Illusion der Chancengleichheit: Untersuchungen zur Sozio-logie des Bildungswesens am Beispiel Frankreichs. Stuttgart: Klett 1971.Pierre Bourdieu. Bildung. Aus dem Französischen von Barbara Picht u.a. Mit einem Nachwort von Markus Rieger-Ladich. Berlin: Suhrkamp 2018.Esme Choonara/Yuri Prasad. Der Irrweg der Privilegientheorie. In: International Socialism 142 (2020), S. 83-110.Combahee River Collective. Ein Schwarzes feministisches Statement (1977). In: Natascha A. Kelly (Hrsg.): Schwarzer Feminismus. Grundlagentexte. Münster: Unrast 2019, S. 47-60.Didier Eribon. Betrachtungen zur Schwulenfrage. Aus dem Französischen von Bernd Schwibs und Achim Russer. Berlin: Suhrkamp 2019.Roxane Gay. Fragwürdige Privilegien. In: Dies.: Bad Feminist. Essays. München: btb 2019, S. 31-36.Michael S. Kimmel/Abby L. Ferber (Hrsg.): Privilege. A Reader. New York: Routledge 2017.Maria-Sibylla Lotter. Ich bin schuldig, weil ich bin (weiß, männlich und bürgerlich). Politik als Läuterungsdiskurs. In: Herwig Grimm/Stephan Schleissig (Hrsg.): Moral und Schuld. Exkulpationsnarrative in Ethikdebatten. Baden-Baden: Nomos 2019, S. 67-86.Peggy McIntosh. Weißsein als Privileg. Die Privilege Papers. Nachwort von Markus Rieger-Ladich. Ditzingen: Reclam 2024.Walter Benn Michaels. Der Trubel um Diversität. Wie wir lernten, Identitäten zu lieben und Ungleichheiten zu ignorieren. Aus dem Englischen übersetzt von Christoph Hesse. Berlin: Tiamat 2021.Linda Martín Alcoff. Das Problem, für andere zu sprechen. Ditzingen: Reclam 2023.Charles W. Mills. Weißes Nichtwissen. In: Kristina Lepold/Marina Martinez Mateo (Hrsg.): Critical Philosophy of Race. Ein Reader. Berlin: Suhrkamp 2021, S. 180-216,Heinz Mohnhaupt. Privilegien als Sonderrechte in europäischen Rechtsordnungen vom Mittelalter bis heute. Frankfurt/Main: Klostermann 2024.Heinz Mohnhaupt/Barbara Dölemeyer (Hrsg.): Das Privileg im europäischen Vergleich. 2 Bände. Frankfurt/Main: Klostermann 1997/1999.Toni Morrison. Die Herkunft der Anderen. Über Rasse, Rassismus und Literatur. Mit einem Vorwort von Ta-Nehisi Coates. Aus dem Englischen von Thomas Piltz. Reinbek: Rowohlt 2018.Markus Rieger-Ladich. Identitätsdebatte oder: Das Comeback des Privilegs. In: Blätter für deutsche und internationale Politik 66 (2021), S. 97-104.Markus Rieger-Ladich. Das Privileg. Kampfvokabel und Erkenntnisinstrument. Ditzingen: Reclam 2022.Markus Rieger-Ladich. Privilegien. In: Merkur 77 (2023), Heft 889, S. 71-80.Markus Rieger-Ladich. Neustart der Privilegienkritik. Ein Plädoyer. In: Aus Politik und Zeitgeschichte 21 (2024), S. 4-10.Jörg Scheller. (Un)Check Your Privilege. Wie die Debatte um Privilegien Gerechtigkeit verhindert. Stuttgart: Hirzel 2022.Steffen Vogel. Das Erbe von 68: Identitätspolitik als Kulturrevolution. In: Blätter für deutsche und internationale Politik 66 (2021), S. 97-104.Katharina Walgenbach. Bildungsprivilegien im 21. Jahrhundert. In: Meike Sophia Baader/Tatjana Freytag (Hrsg.): Bildung und Ungleichheit in Deutschland. Wiesbaden: VS 2017, S. 513-536. **********Mehr zum Thema bei Deutschlandfunk Nova:Soziologie: Freundschaften hängen auch vom Geldbeutel abSoziologie: Warum die Klimakrise polarisiertSoziologie: Geld als Kriegsmittel - Wie effektiv das ist**********Den Artikel zum Stück findet ihr hier.**********Ihr könnt uns auch auf diesen Kanälen folgen: TikTok auf&ab , TikTok wie_geht und Instagram .

Varn Vlog
Evolution of Privilege: From the French Revolution to Modern Social Justice with Stephan Bertram-Lee

Varn Vlog

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2024 105:25 Transcription Available


Have you ever wondered how the concept of privilege has evolved from the French Revolution to modern times? Join us as we sit down with Stephan Bertram-Lee, a PhD student who has just completed a groundbreaking dissertation on the history and limitations of the concept of privilege. We trace its origins, revisit Peggy McIntosh's influential work on white privilege from the late 1980s, and explore how these ideas have seeped into UK parliamentary debates, particularly concerning education.In our conversation, Stephan sheds light on the pivotal role of clear and concise academic writing in shaping popular discourse. We discuss how McIntosh's straightforward texts have streamlined complex ideas without the usual academic contradictions. We also delve into how the definitions of intricate concepts like racism shift within different theoretical frameworks, touching on perspectives from critical race theorists like Robin D'Angelo and Ibram X. Kendi. The broader implications of applying terms like racism and anti-Semitism too broadly, potentially diluting their effectiveness, are also unpacked.The episode takes a critical look at the reduction of systemic issues to individual cognitive interventions and the curious adoption of American-centric discourses in Europe. Stephan highlights how modern privilege discourse often shifts the focus from tangible inequalities to changing internal perceptions, which can obscure economic struggles of minority groups. We conclude with an insightful discussion on the future of privilege discourse, its intersections with social justice, class, and race, and the political implications of identity politics. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the nuanced and evolving landscape of privilege and social justice. Support the showCrew:Host: C. Derick VarnIntro and Outro Music by Bitter Lake.Intro Video Design: Jason MylesArt Design: Corn and C. Derick VarnLinks and Social Media:twitter: @varnvlogblue sky: @varnvlog.bsky.socialYou can find the additional streams on YoutubeCurrent Patreon at the Sponsor Tier: Jordan Sheldon

Injury & Violence Prevention INdepth
ISM's and IVP - Moving beyond Awareness to Action

Injury & Violence Prevention INdepth

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2024 48:30 Transcription Available


Send us a Text Message.Some may think that "ism's" - sexism, racism, classism, ableism, ageism, nationalism, etc. don't have anything to do with injury and violence prevention (IVP). On the contrary - they have everything to do with IVP. In this episode, host Mighty Fine talks with Jessica Ritter (she/they), a Certified Nonprofit Professional who has been working to improve public health in Pennsylvania. She is the current Safe Kids Pennsylvania State Office Coordinator. Throughout her career, she has focused on violence prevention and diversity, equity, and inclusion.In their conversation, Jessica starts by sharing definitions and providing perspective on types of oppressions or "ism's" and then relating it to injury and violence prevention. Resources and actions are provided on how to educate, understand, and help advance equity. RESOURCES:White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh (1989)White Supremacy Culture Classism: Readings and Resources The Society Pages Contexts 

Living Our Beliefs
Bonus. Race, Faith, and Social Action (Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery)

Living Our Beliefs

Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2024 47:14


Episode 69. Terrlyn was already my guest on the first episode of the year, number 58, and has returned for this Bonus episode. As such, we will focus on a topic rather than her personal faith path. In this case, we will talk more deeply about her work on dismantling racism, how that relates to DEIB – diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging – as well as the relationship between social justice action and awareness of difference. If you have not already listened to her earlier episode, I encourage you to do so, though today's discussion stands on its own. A link to that earlier episode is in the show notes. To learn more about Terrlyn's work and her two books, Dismantling Racism: Healing Separation from the Inside Out and Sacred Intelligence: The Essence of Sacred, Selfish & Shared Relationships, check out her social media links, which are listed below.Highlights: ·       DEIB and her focus on racism.·       Intersectionality and acknowledging uniqueness. ·       Race (and religion) as proxies for bridging differences.·       Systems of oppression and regional differences.·       Using gender-inclusive language in worship.·       Questioning the assumptions of privilege and the importance of languaging.·       Being a follower of the radical Jesus and advocacy for the marginalized.References:Dismantling Racism – Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery (ep. 58)Peggy McIntosh, “Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack”Social Media links for Terrlyn: Sacred Intelligence – www.sacredintelligence.comDismantle Racism Movement – www.dismantleracismmovement.comTEDx Speaker: Wounded by ReligionFacebook – https://www.facebook.com/terrlyncurryaveryInstagram – revdrtlcTwitter – RevDrTLCLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-terrlyn-l-curry-avery/Social Media links for Méli:Talking with God Project – https://www.talkingwithgodproject.orgLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/melisolomon/Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100066435622271Transcript:  Follow the podcast!The Living Our Beliefs podcast offers a place to learn about other religions and faith practices. When you hear about how observant Christians, Jews and Muslims live their faith, new ideas and questions arise:  Is your way similar or different?  Is there an idea or practice that you want to explore?  Understanding how other people live opens your mind and heart to new people you meet. Comments?  Questions? Email  Méli at – info@talkingwithgodproject.org The Living Our Beliefs podcast is part of the Talking with God Project – https://www.talkingwithgodproject.org/

Point of Learning
UNPACKING WHITE PRIVILEGE with PEGGY McINTOSH (2019)

Point of Learning

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2024


On 5 March 2024, Peggy McIntosh was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame. In honor of this momentous occasion, I'm re-sharing our 2019 conversation.

Moral Repair: A Black Exploration of Tech
Machine Learning: What's Good?

Moral Repair: A Black Exploration of Tech

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2023 43:28


Is it possible to control AI? If so, how can we make it more ethical? Damien Williams, PhD, a philosopher of science, technology, and society, has some ideas. Annanda and Keisha chat Marvel movies, Ultron's bad manners, and what lessons machine learning could take from the world of plant medicine and harm reduction. SHOW NOTES NEW: Come talk to us on social media! We're at @moralrepairpodcast on Instagram and @MoralRepair on X (Twitter). You can also reach us by email: moralrepairpodcast at gmail dot com The Verge surveys Americans on who's using AI tools and what worries them (June 2023) A 2020 note in the Federal Register on how US border-crossing tech expanded and evolved: first for so-called “aliens” (non-citizens) and then to other categories of immigrant or citizen In 2010, Peggy McIntosh shared some notes on her classic “Invisible Knapsack” article (National Seed Project on Inclusive Curriculum) Ethicist Shannon Vallor speaks and writes on the AI Mirror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40UbpSoYN4k); her book with Oxford UP comes out May 2024. The Associated Press reports on concerns about generative AI producing disinfo during the 2024 election cycle (August 2023) Harry Frankfurt's On Bullshit (2004) A philosophy anthology where listeners can find the Aristotle essay Keisha and Damien mentioned and many other reflections on science, tech, and human values from the fields of technical communication and science, technology and society: Philosophy of Technology: The Technological Condition: An Anthology (2nd edition) Annanda's closing nod to Black poet, professor, and theorist Audre Lorde references a conference address Lorde later published in the collection, Sister Outsider: Essays and Speeches (Penguin, 1984/2020)

choice Magazine
Episode #68 ~ From Intimidation to Transformation: Coaching Genius Leaders with guest, Suzi Pomerantz

choice Magazine

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2023 24:46 Transcription Available


In today's episode, we're honored to have Suzi Pomerantz as our guest. Suzi is an award-winning executive leadership coach and international bestselling author with over 30 years of experience coaching executives in 250+ organizations worldwide. You'll see that Suzi's journey is nothing short of remarkable as she shares insights from her career, from coaching genius leaders and scientists to her breakthrough strategies that transform them into extraordinary leaders.Suzi's expertise extends to leadership strategy, leadership influence, and finding clarity in chaos, making her a top 4% executive leadership coach. She was one of the first to receive the ICF's MCC credential 25 years ago and is a thought leader in the coaching industry.In her latest article, "The Genius Quotient ~ Strategies for Coaching Brilliant Scientist Leaders,” Suzi explores the profound impact of coaching in healthcare. She's also a prolific author with over 50 publications about coaching, ethics, business development, and 11 books including bestseller, "Seal the Deal."Suzi's transformative experience overcoming Imposter Syndrome, thanks to a memorable encounter with Gloria Steinem and Peggy McIntosh at the Women Lawyers Conference, is a highlight. She reveals her three-step coaching process and discusses the strategy of designing experiments to encourage trying something new.Watch the full interview by clicking hereFind the full article here:   https://bit.ly/BTP-SuziPomerantzLearn more about Suzi at http://www.suzipomerantz.com and explore her extensive Library of Professional Coaching here Suzi has a special gift for our listeners: Download a free copy of her book ¨Seal the Deal¨ hereGrab your free issue of choice Magazine here - https://choice-online.com/ In this episode, I talk with Suzi Pomerantz about her article published in our September 2023 issue.

Eminent Americans
The White Episode

Eminent Americans

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2023 81:28


My guest on this episode of the podcast is Timothy Lensmire, professor of Education at the University of Minnesota and the author or editor of, among other works, White Folks: Race and Identity in Rural America; Powerful Writing, Responsible Teaching; and Whiteness at the Table: Antiracism, Racism, and Identity in Education. He is also a co-founder of the Midwest Critical Whiteness Collective (MCWC).Tim and I talk primarily about two things: the powerful critique that he and his MCWC colleagues have made, from the anti-racist left, of Peggy McIntosh's seminal essay on white privilege (commonly known as the “invisible knapsack” essay), and Tim's own work on whiteness and white identity.We also just talk, in general, about the ways that both the left and right over-simplify the complexity of being white in America, and how these over-simplifications get in the way of getting to where most (or at least many) of us would like to get.Episode reading list: Get full access to Eminent Americans at danieloppenheimer.substack.com/subscribe

First Name Basis Podcast
8.4: Motherhood: An Unexpected Act of Resistance

First Name Basis Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2023 24:12


This episode is a special one to me, one dedicated to all of the Black and Brown moms out there. A lot of my Black and Brown friends who are stay-at-home moms in the thick of it with tiny kiddos have told me that they feel like they're not doing enough to contribute to the anti-racism movement. For my friends and anyone else in this community who reads that and thinks “that's me!” I have a message for you that I hope you hear loud and clear: Being a Black or Brown stay-at-home mother is an act of resistance, an act that is SO IMPORTANT to the movement. Please note that I am not putting down working moms down at all! I AM a working mom, and my mom was a working mom. I just don't think Black and Brown moms in particular don't hear enough that they are part of the movement and that what they are doing in their homes is such an important act toward justice and anti-racism. Press play on the episode to hear more about what I mean. It's one you're not going to want to miss!   Invite Jasmine to work with your school! Are you a parent or teacher who wants to help your school turn good intentions into positive action by making anti-racist education a priority? First Name Basis is here to help! Jasmine Bradshaw, the host and founder of the First Name Basis Podcast, is an anti-racist educator and former second-grade teacher who has a passion for helping schools make real change. Whether you're looking for a keynote speaker at your next PTA event, want to implement our Ally Elementary curriculum at your school, or need someone to consult with your school and provide teacher trainings, Jasmine is your go-to resource. Email hello@firstnamebasis.org for more information!   Check out our summer sale Ally Elementary Jr., Ally Elementary and Juneteenth Jubilee are all available RIGHT NOW! And to make that news even better, we're running a HUGE sale now through June 23! With Juneteenth right around the corner, you can get $25 off Juneteenth Jubilee to help you plan the perfect Juneteenth Dinner.  Or you can get $75 off Ally Elementary Jr. or Ally Elementary, and when you purchase either of those programs, you'll get Juneteenth Jubilee FOR FREE! No coupon code needed — the deal will automatically load itself into your cart. If you're interested in bringing anti-racist education into your home or classroom, now is the time to get them! Summer is a great time to start using these programs in your home or to prepare to use them in your classroom.  Head over to firstnamebasis.org/allyelementary to learn more or to get the programs!  Articles, Studies, & Podcasts Referenced in the Episode First Name Basis Podcast, Season 2, Episode 26: “My Working Mom: Chasing Her Dreams” First Name Basis Podcast, Season 2, Episode 14: “What Is Privilege And What Do I Do With It?” First Name Basis Podcast, Season 4, Episode 8: “Can We Talk About White Privilege?” “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Peggy McIntosh   Song Credit: “Sleeper” by Steve Adams” and “Dive Down” by VYEN

English Academic Vocabulary Booster
1503. 126 Academic Words Reference from "Peggy McIntosh: How to recognize your white privilege - and use it to fight inequality | TED Talk"

English Academic Vocabulary Booster

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2023 114:27


This podcast is a commentary and does not contain any copyrighted material of the reference source. We strongly recommend accessing/buying the reference source at the same time. ■Reference Source https://www.ted.com/talks/peggy_mcintosh_how_to_recognize_your_white_privilege_and_use_it_to_fight_inequality ■Post on this topic (You can get FREE learning materials!) https://englist.me/126-academic-words-reference-from-peggy-mcintosh-how-to-recognize-your-white-privilege---and-use-it-to-fight-inequality--ted-talk/ ■Youtube Video https://youtu.be/NOUfAV4t8cE (All Words) https://youtu.be/Ok_-fGVeLps (Advanced Words) https://youtu.be/nS17ciCTq6s (Quick Look) ■Top Page for Further Materials https://englist.me/ ■SNS (Please follow!)

1000 Ways Green
SDG #10 - Reduced Inequalities

1000 Ways Green

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2023 5:16


In this episode, we discuss the 10th United Nations Sustainable Development Goal: Reduced Inequalities. We highlight some practical ways individuals can contribute towards reducing inequality, including using purchasing power, educating oneself on privilege and bias, and volunteering with organizations that promote social justice. We also provide examples of companies and organizations that prioritize social and economic inclusion. Finally, we share some recommended resources for further education on these issues. Links from this episode: Article - ”White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Knapsack Peggy McIntosh Video - "How Studying Privilege Systems Can Strengthen Compassion"  Peggy McIntosh at TEDxTimberlaneSchools Podcast - Scene on Radio - This is probably my favorite podcast of all time, Season 2 being the best, but seasons 3-5 also being quite good and impactful. Don't forget to rate the show on your podcast player of choice as it helps the show get found. Also remember to share which challenge you're doing online with #1000WaysGreen. Links from the show can be found in the show notes. Looking to find out more ways to save the planet, learn more about the show/host or just looking for some 1000 Ways Green merch? Check out the Show Website for more great content. Would you like to help support the show and keep more episodes coming, feel free to support the show. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/1000waysgreen/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/1000waysgreen/support

Carlette Christmas Show
#89 Peggy McIntosh

Carlette Christmas Show

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2023 42:29


Peggy McIntosh, author of White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, shares her experiences of white privilege and her fight for inclusion.

WUVS 103.7 The Beat
278: Torn N 2 with Gregory T. Roberts and Melvin Burns II with guest Peggy McIntosh

WUVS 103.7 The Beat

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2023 60:35


orn N 2 with host Gregory T. Roberts and co-host Melvin Burns II with guest Peggy McIntosh feminist, anti-racism activist, scholar, speaker, and Senior Research Scientist of the Wellesley Centers for Women and the founder of the National SEED Project on Inclusive Curriculum (Seeking Educational Equity and Diversity).

Crossroads Church
The Way of Peace :: Part 08 :: Is He Really Going to Talk About Privilege? | Jimmy Scruggs :: February 26 2023

Crossroads Church

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2023 0:39


What does it practically mean to follow the peacemaking path of Jesus? In The Way of Peace, learn about the concept of a rule of life and discover flexible and achievable ways to walk this peacemaking path. __Rule #01 Choose love, forgiveness and inclusion: Daily choose to follow Jesus: walk the narrow path of loving mercy, doing justice, and living sacrificially.Rule #02 Listen to Wisdom: Daily listen to wisdom from Scripture, sacred writings and other sources to understand where peace is broken, and oppression is flourishingRule #03 Practice Mindfulness: Be attentive of the Divine Presence through unceasing prayerRule #04 Gather Together: Weekly join others to learn, celebrate and experience Divine LoveRule #05 Create Hope: Share faith while unselfishly giving and servingRule #06 Intentionally Rest: Receive divine grace and restoration through self-careWhat's the Issue Anyway?To be in someone's struggle is to be PROXIMATE.Proximity requires HUMILITY.Does my PRIVILEGE keep me from being PROXIMATE?      “True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar, it comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring.” –Martin Luther King, Jr.What Wisdom does Jesus offer us about Proximity and Humility?Jesus reiterates that we are to love GOD and love our NEIGHBOR! (John 10:27-28)Peter realized that God saw no BOUNDARIES. (Acts 10:28) We bring to the conversation some MISGUIDED beliefs. (John 10:29)The criteria for OUR LOVE is not race or religion—it is NEED. (John 10:30-35)The Way of Peace Rule #7Humbly Go: CROSS boundaries, LISTEN deeply and LOVE mercyHow can I live this in my everyday, normal life?ACKNOWLEDGE your privilege.Go where you are UNCOMFORTABLE.How does this make me a better person and the world a better place?I can choose to walk HUMBLY and be PROXIMATE.This will help bring PEACE and JUSTICE to the world.What is God inviting you into today?1.      Read the article “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Peggy McIntosh.2.     Make an invitation to coffee or a meal.3.     Get involved with Partners in Hope through your time, talent and treasure.Thought provoking questions:1.      Think about your race, gender, ethnicity, religion, primary language, ability, socioeconomic status, education level and sexual orientation. How do these specific aspects of your identity influence how you interact with others?2.     What are the stereotypes you hold of the “other?” Why do you think you have those stereotypes? Is there room for a different narrative and perspective?3.     Can you think of some other stories of Jesus modeling proximity and humility? With whom did he “break bread?”4.    What are examples in which you have experienced people authentically sharing pain with you? What is your natural tendency when someone comes to you in pain? Are you inclined to a) offer solutions; b) say, “God is good, it will be ok;” or c) simply listen and create space for suffering?5.     When you think about living a proximate life (whatever that might look like for you), what are the sacrifices that you would have to make? How do you feel about making those sacrifices?

Turing School Podcast
Alumni Community

Turing School Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2022 57:39


An interview with Erin Bassity, founder of the Turing Alumni Committee, Turing grad, and current Turing board member.  Reading Recommendations: White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh  Difference Matters by Brenda Allen  Turing Q2 2022 Jobs and Hiring Report 

Unpacking My Privilege
Please Judge Your Therapist w/ Hayley Caddes

Unpacking My Privilege

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2022 54:43


Hayley Caddes is changing the world by destigmatizing mental health. She's the creator of Chill Pill, a mental health app for Gen Zers, that will launch later this year.In this episode, we talk about where I've been the past six months and how it's impacted my mental health as well as Hayley's mental health journey, how white supremacy affects the mental health industry, and why it's so damn hard to find a therapist that's right for you.RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODEWhite Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh: https://psychology.umbc.edu/files/2016/10/White-Privilege_McIntosh-1989.pdfWhy I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race By Reni Eddo-Lodge: https://www.amazon.com/Longer-Talking-White-People-About-ebook/dp/B06WWPX2YFParis Hilton Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOg0TY1jG3wCONNECT WITH US FURTHERChill Pill's Instagram (@chillpill_app): https://www.instagram.com/chillpill_app/Hayley's Instagram (@haylaycat): https://www.instagram.com/haylaycat/Chill Pill Website: https://chillpill.app/?utm_source=chillpill&utm_medium=instagram&utm_campaign=socialmediaShanell Peterson's Instagram (@shanellpetersonofficial): https://www.instagram.com/shanellpetersonofficial/Unpacking My Privilege's Instagram (@unpackingmyprivilegofficial): https://www.instagram.com/unpackingmyprivilegeofficial/

Relatable AF with Heather & Steph
We are Deconstructing, Rachel Hollis Part 3

Relatable AF with Heather & Steph

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2022 118:40


BOOM the divorce hits and we are left with questions and confusions…and Dave all over Instagram. Where does the community go from here? How are we moving on from the Hollises and deconstructing? In this episode we finish up the Hollis timeline and share some of the stories from YOU! The Hollis Hole Timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gKutvmr584GtuaGSQ6RFRbwzntKl6LpW7NQmWVH1LI0/edit?usp=sharing Austin Channing Brown Tweets to White Female Influencers: https://twitter.com/austinchanning/status/1253873583761305601 Ohavia Phillips Instagram Video to Influencers: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CA3RttpBISw/ Be There In Five Podcast: https://bethereinfive.com/podcast Savy's Video Interviewing Rachel Hollis's Former Employee: https://youtu.be/P1JdNdJ1SN4 Rachel's “Relatable” TikTok: https://youtube.com/shorts/-qkW4Tn8eeE Luvvie's Twitter Reaction to Rachel's TikTok: https://twitter.com/luvvie/status/1378547468024041472 Luvvie's Apology Tweets: https://twitter.com/Luvvie/status/1378766559041183746 Heather's First TikTok on Rachel: https://youtu.be/HvgOSuALhHU “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Peggy McIntosh: https://psychology.umbc.edu/files/2016/10/White-Privilege_McIntosh-1989.pdf Rachel's Last TikTok: https://youtu.be/Ld55W9pfFM8 Keya's World Attends Rachel's RISE Conference Virtually: https://youtu.be/gzuJ1wb_Ov8 Dave Hollis “Pancake” Instagram Live: https://youtu.be/eAVhXDlkInQ Former Fan Stories in Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/rt9680/calling_former_rh_fans/ Send our assistant Rachel an email with your thoughts and ideas for future episodes, rachel@relatableafpodcast.com. Thank you for listening and be sure to give us a review or share this with a friend! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/relatableafpodcast/support

Sounds About White - the podcast
Episode 7: Affirmative Action & That Knapsack with Peggy McIntosh

Sounds About White - the podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2022 41:15


Peggy McIntosh joins Maria to talk all things Knapsack. Emma Nelson returns, along with her Black alter ego, Jessica, to discuss racist misconceptions about Affirmative Action and make one small but mighty request this Black History Month. 

Muslim in Plain Sight
Making space for the discourse of justice with Dr. Jasmine Gani [Part 2]

Muslim in Plain Sight

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2021 62:03


Dr. Jasmine Gani, a Senior Lecturer in International Relations at the University of St. Andrews, sits down with us for a deeply moving conversation about her journey through the academy, as a student and a teacher, as well as her experiences with community organizing. Our discussion was so wide-ranging that we had to split it into two parts! Listen to Part 1.In Part 2, Jasmine tells us why she chose academia as a career, the sacred duty of mentorship, and how and why we make space for the discourse of justice.References:Find Jasmine's work on her blog.On the horrors of extraordinary rendition, read about Gareth Peirce's work and the infamous case of Maher Arar.Peggy McIntosh initially coined the “invisible backpack” metaphor Anisa mentions for white privilege, but it has since been adopted to describe the trauma of racialisation and/or abuse.Follow us on Twitter. Email us at musliminplainsight@gmail.com. Support the show.Hosts and Producers: Anisa Khalifa and Khadija KhalilConsulting Producer: Paroma Chakravarty

La gran pregunta
¿De qué privilegio gozo?

La gran pregunta

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2021 9:48


En este episodio reflexionamos sobre los privilegios que tenemos, abordamos un texto de Peggy McIntosh respecto a la "mochila invisible" que tenemos y te invitamos a que pongas atención a esas ""facilidades"" que tienes Búscanos en Facebook e Instagram como @servidac www.servidac.com Music by www.patrickdearteaga.com

HERdacious
Self-Awareness Matters

HERdacious

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2021 32:12


Awareness of Bias and Systemic RacismIn this episode, herdacious host Lorelei chats with Kirya Francis about addressing bias and racism in the workplace. When we hear the words “bias” and “racism,” our minds often conjure up offensive scenarios reflective of other people's presumptions; however, the subtle separation of marginalized communities from higher-level organizational involvement all too frequently goes unaddressed. Kirya teaches us that despite the gaps placed between those in habitual positions of power and folks of color, we can begin to bridge the gap when we become more aware of our actions and correct our prejudices. From assessing our assumptions to advancing opportunities that are often deprived of others, Kirya helps us realize that fostering DEI practices in the workplace need not be a complete overhaul of institutional racism. We can start  by asking a questions like "Would you like my seat?" Through this approach , we can slowly and surely chip away at the old-school walls that keep minorities from participating at the table.Host: Lorelei GonzalezCo-host: Kirya Francis, MSTCKirya Francis is the Chief Diversity Officer at Omnicom Advertising Collective, where she merges her passion for inclusive workplaces with her purpose to give a diverse talent pool an equitable chance at excelling in advertising. Kirya has earned three degrees from the University of Texas at Austin in Radio-TV-Film, Broadcast Journalism, as well as a master's degree from McCombs School of Business.Things you will learn in this episode (chapter markers available):  Key terms 2:00Le bias 4:10Systemic racism 5:46 The good, the bad, and the ugly 9:55Racism vs. bias 12:55Cancel culture be gone! 15:55Anti-racism action items 21:23Femme fact: Girl groups 23:50Resources mentioned in this episode:  #TalkAboutBias (website) White Privilege by Peggy McIntosh (short read)Caste by Isabel Wilkerson (book)Racist, Sexist Boy by The Linda Lindas (song)Episode sponsors:  HERdacity   Moonray  Looking for additional resources on this topic? Check out our blog “Racism vs. Bias” by Frances Leigh Jordan Loved what you heard on herdacious and want to share with friends? Tag us and connect with HERdacity on social media:Twitter: @herdacityFacebook: @HERdacityInstagram: @herdacityLinkedIn: HERdacity Email: herdacious@herdacity(dot)orgFor up to date information on HERdacity events, webinars, podcasts, and community activities, join our newsletter here.  Disclaimer: While we appreciate our sponsors' support in making this show possible, herdacious content is curated with integrity and honesty.Support the show (http://herdacity.org/donate/)

Western Resistance
White Male Privilege Part 2 - Unpacking the invisible knapsack

Western Resistance

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2021 39:16


Peggy McIntosh wrote Unpacking the Invisble Knapsack in 1989 and the affects of it are still being felt today. It is one of those essays that makes you wonder what ever happened to rigor and critical thinking. In this podcast, I take a look at the essay and give my opinion on what about it is right and what is wrong.

The Unpopular Opinion
TUO on Privilege

The Unpopular Opinion

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2021 84:30


This week we attempt to brave the subject of Privilege. I's a touchy one's all privileged in our own unique ways, but let's face it, some trump others in regards to todays society. It's important to remember that privilege comes from a place that is out of the persons control, to check yours regularly, and to find out how you can use yours to help others to gain equity. The essay by Peggy McIntosh on privilege can be found here. Karla's Stomper can be found here. Don't forget you can get in touch with us on Insta, and we're on Patreon too! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-unpopular-opinion. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Bro Nouveau Podcast
Talking About Race with Tom King

Bro Nouveau Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2021 54:03


002 - Host Thomas Pierce is joined by longtime friend Tom King as they discuss their personal privilege and how systemic racism in the United States plays out in everyday life. The discussion is framed by the work of two anti-racism scholars, Dr. Peggy McIntosh and Dr. Robin DiAngelo. With plenty of comedic relief as the two laugh at the absurdity of white fragility, the two model what an honest conversation about race can look like. The second half of the episode broadens out into mental health and how men interact with each other as the pair identify some of the components that constitute toxic masculinity. The two model what a healthy relationship between two straight men can look like after years of friendship and honest conversations.Items Referenced: "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" and "Some Notes for Facilitators". © 1989 Dr. Peggy McIntosh  " White Fragility and the Rules of Engagement" -  Dr. Robin DiAngelo"Men and depression" - American Psychological Association 13th Amendment to the US ConstitutionFollow on Instagram here. All episodes here. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

Greater Than Code
230: Using Tech + Policy For Good with Corey Ponder

Greater Than Code

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2021 70:04


01:55 - Corey’s Superpower: Empathy * Finding Voice: You Are Not a Statistic * What does it mean to support Black lives? * Authentic Self * Having Conversations Around Allyship * Owning Vulnerability 09:06 - Having People Hear Your Stories * “How are you doing?” * “Me Too” Movement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_Too_movement) – learned something about self and blind spots in the process and the feedback was helpful 13:01 - Allyship Best Practices * Growth Mindset * Trusted Sidekicks; Augmenting Journies * Invisible Knapsack: How to recognize your white privilege — and use it to fight inequality (https://www.ted.com/talks/peggy_mcintosh_how_to_recognize_your_white_privilege_and_use_it_to_fight_inequality/transcript?language=en) (Peggy McIntosh) 19:04 - Developing Empathy * Watch Hamilton! When it comes to leadership, Aaron Burr was right — “Talk less, smile more” (https://medium.com/@mkvolm/when-it-comes-to-leadership-aaron-burr-was-right-talk-less-smile-more-bf1e18dbac7a) (Being Able to Hear vs Being Able to Listen) * Deep Canvassing – How to talk someone out of bigotry: These scientists keep proving that reducing prejudice is possible. It’s just not easy. (https://www.vox.com/2020/1/29/21065620/broockman-kalla-deep-canvassing) * Google Assistant Research; Inclusive Design * Empathy Mapping (From UX Design) – Building For Everyone: Expand Your Market With Design Practices From Google's Product Inclusion Team (https://www.amazon.com/Building-Everyone-Practices-Googles-Inclusion/dp/1119646227) * Empathy Can Combat Mis/Disinformation * Fearing What We Don’t Understand: Nas - Hate Me Now ft. Puff Daddy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKSJN3WWR3E) (song) | Lyrics (https://www.google.com/search?q=nas+you+can+hate+me+now&oq=nas+you+can+hate+me+now&aqs=chrome..69i57j46j0l3j0i22i30.4277j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#wptab=s:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLRT9c3LDYwLalINit6xOjJLfDyxz1hKYdJa05eY7Ti4grOyC93zSvJLKkU0uFig7KUuASkUDRqMEjxcaGI8Oxi0ktJTUsszSmJL0lMsspOttLPLS3OTNYvSk3OL0rJzEuPT84pLS5JLbLKqSzKTC5exCqUkViSqpCbqpCXX64AEQQAMkDXN6IAAAA) * Active Processing (psychology) (https://study.com/academy/answer/what-is-active-processing-in-cognitive-psychology.html) 36:03 - Using Tech + Policy For Good * Educating & Empowering People Online * Company and Community Values * Pipeline Investment and Early Exposure * Diversifying the Tech Policy Space / Manifestos? * Algorithmic Justice League (https://www.ajl.org/) * Virility * Clubhouse Is Worth $1 Billion Off the Backs of Black Folks. Now What? (https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/clubhouse-is-worth-1-billion-off-the-backs-of-black-fo-1846190868) Reflections: Arty: Centering around empowerment + asking, “How ARE you?” with the intention of listening. Chanté: We can’t outsource empathy. Corey: How the model of technology has shifted away from interest-based to follower-based and influencing. This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Transcript: ARTY: Hi, everyone. Welcome to Episode 230 of Greater Than Code. I am Artemis Starr and I'm here with my fabulous co-host, Chanté Thurmond. CHANTÉ: Hey, everyone and I had the great pleasure of introducing our guest of honor today, Corey Ponder. Welcome, Corey. COREY: Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be here. CHANTÉ: We're so glad to have you. If you don't mind, I'd love to read your bio so everyone knows who you are. COREY: Sounds great. CHANTÉ: Corey has over 10 years of work experience, he has had several roles across two industries and has also served in community organizations and nonprofits. At the core of each of these experiences is a passionate commitment to building community and developing people and programs. Corey most recently worked at Google serving as a senior policy advisor focused on privacy, advising product teams on best practices and approaches to inspire user trust. He also owns and manages his own business, em|PACT Strategies, a consulting firm that helps organizations build inclusive communities by prioritizing empathy as a skillset. Corey serves on boards of InnovatorsBox, a firm focused on creativity, and Youth Speaks, a nonprofit focused on youth arts and education. Great background. Corey, did we forget anything else? COREY: Well, I have to just because I am a lifetime SEC, Southeastern Conference, person, that I have to shout out Vanderbilt University, where I went for undergrad and then also, because I'm in California, I have to shout out University of California, Berkeley, where I went for my Master's in public policy. So those two things I would add. CHANTÉ: Those are great institutions for education. So good. Let's start off with the first question that we give everyone and that is: what is your superpower and how did you acquire it? COREY: Yes. I love this question. It gives me a chance to really nerd out. So I would say the first thing that comes up for me is empathy. When I think about empathy, I think about how superheroes, oftentimes exhibit qualities around being empathetic that we might look at as healing abilities, or the ability to regenerate themselves, or regenerate others, the stamina, or the fortitude, last, or survive in a space where there's a lot of things attacking them mentally and emotionally and able to persevere in spite of all of that. So I would say empathy is definitely the superpower that I have. I think when I step into spaces, I'm always thinking about what can I do to make other people feel more welcome, or feel more authentically themselves, which I feel like is the healing part. I feel like the regeneration piece is often me putting myself into positions where I don't like conflict, or seek it out, but I definitely feel like I put myself into spaces where I'm like, I want to support you and it might come at some risk to me, but I think I can bounce back from this. And then the stamina piece. I mean, none of this work, showing up for others even is not just a one-time thing and so, the consistency piece, I think, is something that I've really over time become more comfortable with just knowing that things might be protracted. People might need you for long periods of time and I'm here for it. CHANTÉ: So you said a few things here that really, I think, demonstrate the skillset for somebody who is in the diversity, equity, and inclusion space and I will bet that you probably didn't see that 10 years ago, or whenever you started down this journey. So if you wouldn't mind, I'd love to know how you got to this space now and I'll also add in, before you answer that question, that a lot of folks, BIPOC folks like us, we know what it's like to be othered. We know what it's like to be excluded. So I know for myself, I'm in the DEI space, but I'm just really curious. I did peek at your background, but just for folks who haven't or who don't have those quick fingers right now, they just want to hear your background, walk us through how you got here. COREY: Yeah, absolutely. So there are two inflection points. The first is I am a Black man so there are moments that I think about as a part of my growth as a Black boy and feeling like I had to grow up very fast to be taken seriously in whatever space that I was interested in to see the world from a perspective of hey, you really have to make sure that you're showing up and representing the person that you want to be because people will quickly ascribe something to you. This was a conversation that was permeating all around me so that when I got to college, there was an inflection point. The first one where I remember I was like, “I want to be a biologist and I might also go to medical school.” When I took lab for the first time, it was a moment where I realized like, oh man, despite all of the things that I have done, all of the things that are within my control, I studied hard. I was getting great grades. I was just woefully unprepared for that space of even just being in a lab and doing a titration. I was like, “What the heck is a titration? What is an Erlenmeyer flask?” I realized that in a lot of ways it was because I didn't have access to the resources, or the conversations, or nobody had even told me that I could do those things. I wasn't seen as somebody that could do those things and so it's like, I didn't know what I didn't know and I think that I really started doubting in many ways from that moment who I could be, what I felt like I needed to thrive in the spaces, what I felt like I was capable of in these spaces. It took me throughout college—great relationships and friendships, but also investment and resources around me to really find that voice that said, “Hey, actually, here's your story,” You're not this other narrative, this person that can't do it and you're not a statistic in a sense of a Black man that is x as opposed to a successful Black man. That was the first inflection point for me. Then I think the second was just having been at this point, maybe like 6, or 7 years working. I was at a moment at Facebook actually, where there was an increased conversation around what does it mean to support Black lives? Why are people talking about Black Lives Matter? In particular, during 2015, 2016, I forget specifically when, but Philando Castile and Alton Sterling were two Black men who were killed by police officers in different instances, in different cities, in different places, but within the same week. It was one of the first times that from a technology perspective, we were discussing this in an international way because it had been captured on Facebook Live. So there was this conversation around who are we as a part of this broader conversation? It was the second inflection point because it reminded me that was man, I am a Black man so even as I've done all of these things, I've been in careers, I've had these jobs and these opportunities where I've done things that I can be proud of, I'm still walking into this space the next day, after hearing about these instances and really feeling like I'm carrying something that I don't know how to speak to. I don't know how – I've never really talked to anybody about how it impacts the way that I am showing up in this space. So from there, I just made the commitment where I said, “I'm going to start trying to be more authentically myself. I'm going to start talking about all the parts of me that make me who I am.” I didn't have a plan for it; I just knew that I wanted to have those conversations. The interesting thing was I started having those conversations and people naturally, after I would talk to people, would say, “Well, what's next? What can I do to support you?” It really just made me think about the broader conversation around allyship. There's a broader conversation around what does it actually mean to show up for somebody and then I realized retroactively that there have been many examples, not only in my life, that people who have shown up for me that now I can pinpoint and look at as case studies, as data points, but also that I have naturally gravitated to doing that because of what I said earlier about the superpower of empathy. It has been something that I had always valued, even if I didn't know what it was, or what I was doing, or what it meant, but it was really important for me to see other people's stories because I knew how important it was for people to see mine. So those two inflection points really shaped how I viewed diversity, equity, and inclusion in my role, in the broader conversation. One, my own vulnerability with myself, but also two, how valuable it is to have people hear your story and validate who you are and your experience and how it's a part of a whole and how they see you. CHANTÉ: Yeah. ARTY: With stories like you mentioned being able to have this experience where you really understood what it meant to show up for someone. COREY: Yeah, absolutely. I'll give two stories. One was actually when someone showed up for me and I remember it was my boss actually shortly after the conversations, or at least what I mentioned earlier about Philando Castile and Alton Sterling. I just was having a really rough, it was a rough day. I mean, I was trying to show up business as usual was very much like, well, I have a job, I have meetings I have to go, and my boss asked me, “How are you doing?” That's a question you hear maybe a hundred times a day and it's also a question that feels like a rhetorical. I mean, you're supposed to say, “Good,” and keep it moving. I said that, but she really stopped me, told me like, “Hey, I'm asking because I really want to know and I have time. How are you doing?” I think just in that simple moment of making the space, creating an avenue for me to actually express a real truth, it just made me feel like wow, you didn't have to listen to my story. You didn't have to consider that I was something more than this a meeting I had to go to, or that I was more than this deliverable, or this project that I was working on. And you did. That meeting was, I, even years later, still to think about it because it was just like, wow, that meeting didn't have to happen that way. But I felt like this wasn't just my burden to bear after that question, or that conversation. The question that she asked and the conversation that followed. I think for me, showing up for others actually has been in this work—working through impact strategies and thinking through how do you actually show up as an ally. I've had a number of experiences. But in particular, there was one right around the decree, I would say the resurfacing of the Me Too movement and that conversation around sexual harassment in the workplace. There was an event, or a town hall, or an opportunity where I had a chance to really show up. I initially—and this is also a part of the failures piece—showed up to that very equally with the best of intentions and said, “Hey, what can I do to move this conversation forward?” Along the way, I remember realizing that oh man, in all of my eagerness to show up to this, I actually have silenced, or not included the voices that were probably most important to actually have this conversation. Women in particular, but also just thinking about in general, people who are survivors, or have been a victim of assault. So it was one of those moments where I took on feedback from people, some of my coworkers, colleagues, friends, I figured out a way to revamp the event, postponed the event so that I could do it the right way. And then I remember in the aftermath of that, seeing I learned something through that process about myself and also, the feedback that I received about the event afterwards was like, all right, this was a conversation where it really prompted people to think about a story that they haven’t thought about before—people who showed up to the event. Because I was helping organize it, showed up, and got something else out of it because I wasn't the only voice in the room. It was another moment where it was like, wow, this isn't necessarily my story, but I leaned in a little bit, or leaned in a lot in the beginning, learned a lot in the process about myself and even where my blind spots were within that entire process of learning in some ways helped tell a story that other people realized like, oh, wow, thanks for helping me see this narrative. CHANTÉ: That is so helpful. I feel like the times where I've had to show up as an ally and lean in to something that I didn't necessarily understand, really helped me to better articulate the needs I had as a Black identified woman, or as a Latino woman to say, “Hey, friend or colleague, you want to show up and help me. This is how you can help me,” Because I've learned from my own ouch moments like, oops, I shouldn't have done that and thankfully, somebody was gracious enough to share feedback in that moment, but many times, they're not. Do you have any best practices in terms of folks who want to show up, especially right now in this year, as an ally, they're very well-intentioned, well-meaning people, but they don't necessarily have somebody like an insider to give them the lay of the land, or to tell them where the real pain points are? COREY: Yeah, absolutely. Two things. The first thing is that to your point about the feedback, I think feedback is so critical and also, we have to recognize that for many communities, like you said, we're in the intersect. We are at the intersection of a lot of identities. I recognize that even though I am underrepresented as a Black person in many spaces, I also am in a privileged position because I'm a man. So I'm having to constantly examine those different nuances and intersections of my identity. Yet that also helps me understand that there's a lot of emotional labor in just showing up to be Black every day so, then sometimes, I might not have the energy, or might not have the capacity to give that feedback to somebody who was looking to be on their journey as an ally. The first thing that I would say is showing up for others is really, there's got to be a hunger, or a desire to actually grow and change. This idea of a growth mindset and it has to be separate from passively taking on the information, or the stories of others. I think once you have that, really having said, “I want to do this and I am motivated to do it.” Then I think the second thing is to go back to the superpower question from earlier, is I like to think about showing up for others as a trusted sidekick. So this model of thinking about you're not showing up to save the day, because that's also a lot of labor. Expecting to be the person to in the movie on a high note and be the person that walks down the aisle to get an award, or reward is not really the goal. But what it really is about is really understanding the stories of the people that you're playing in the same universe with and then figuring out what ways you can augment their journey. I think about three things that are a part of that, which is really those everyday moments. When I've had conversations through my work, oftentimes people are like, “Black lives matter. We need to March,” or “Gender equity. We need to dismantle capitalism.” It’s like, that is probably true and there are scholars out there that are speaking more deeply than I can ever speak to on that, but what about those moments that are outside of that? So you might say that Black lives matter,” and you might have the t-shirt, or you might step up in a forum and say, “Hey, I'm declaring that I believe in this cause,” but are you then actually including your coworker who was Black in the team lunches that happen every day that y'all just get together organically, but somehow that person is never on the organic chain? Or if you're thinking about gender equity and pay discrimination, that is a big thing, but also, are you actually making space and not taking up the room when you're in a meeting everyday being the person that has to get the last word, or are you making sure that everybody's opinions are on the table, including your women colleagues, or female colleagues are heard in the room? I think these are the everyday moments where we can show up as an ally. I think the second piece is thinking about these things that we have to confront about ourselves. It might be ugly or scary, but are necessary. We all have biases. We all are a product of certain privileges because we have identities that confer some amount of power to us and some type of favoritism to us. So if we're thinking about that, we have to really examine that how those show up and affect us. Peggy McIntosh wrote Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, where she did a lot of research in this space, where the idea is that we carry this around and even if we don't acknowledge it, it's still there. This idea of it might be invisible to us, but you can imagine walking into a room with a big knapsack on not realizing that every time you turn left or right, you're hitting somebody with your privilege. So I think it's important to acknowledge that we have that backpack on whether we realize it, or not and it's affecting people whether we accept it, or not. And then the third thing is taking that next step of we have the positionality. So if you're talking about supporting from your identity, or from your perspective, you have some ability to influence change. Again, even if it's at a micro level. Because I'm a man, I have some privilege in the communities and spaces that I hold. Because of I’m a man, people are going to see me a certain way so then what I talk about what I represent, what I say, what I'm willing to advocate for is going to hold a different weight, whether that's right or wrong, it's going to hold a different weight than if a woman were to ask, or advocate for the same thing. So then what can I do to use that privilege in support of what that community might actually be asking for, or want? That might take a little discomfort on my part, but I guarantee it is way less uncomfortable than underrepresented groups having to advocate for their right to be seen, or heard, or validated in spaces. So those would be three things, I think you could do in that journey. CHANTÉ: Those are awesome things. The one that really resonates for me, too is just the empathy part because I feel like that is a core skill that we're going to need for the future of work. Oftentimes, when I say that people ask me, “Well, how do I develop empathy?” I have my own answer there, but I'd love to hear yours. How do you think people can get better at working on that empathy muscle and if you have anything that's worked for you personally, or that you recommend more professionally that you've seen in the workplace? That'd be helpful. COREY: Yeah, absolutely. Two things. The first thing that came up for me is Hamilton. I feel like everybody has seen it now. If you haven't seen it, spoiler alert, there's a theme that goes throughout Hamilton where Ehrenberg says, “Talk less, listen more.” There's this idea that I feel like with empathy, we often think of it as just like, ”I have to be in touch with my feelings,” but actually what I think it is, is actually a skill, a tangible skill of can I actually listen to someone and I think there's a difference between being able to hear and being able to listen. So I think the first thing that I have done is like, how can I actually actively listen more effectively to the people around me? There's actually this research, I think 2014, 2015, it was focused on can we use empathy? Like, actually measure the effect of empathy on reducing, in this case, anti-trans gender opinions? I think the research was called “Durably reducing transphobia,” but essentially, what they did was it was an exercise around active listening. They used the political tool called deep canvassing to essentially equip these researchers to go into a home where people expressed, or had been exposed to anti-transgender views and they literally just listened to them. They processed actively with this person about why they believe what they believe and then through that process, they didn't actually rebut with facts, or say, “But actually, that's not true,” or “Did you know that that's actually not true?” What actually happened was people realized through their own act of processing that you know what, this is not actually about transgender. It's actually about safety. I can relate now. I can empathize because now that I've come full circle and have been able to tell my story about why I'm processed out loud, I realized that I do have something in common with the transgender community. They want to feel safe. This law makes them feel unsafe. I want to feel safe in bathrooms, but those two things don't have to compete with each other. We're all people that want to be safe. That that research for me really sticks out whenever I think of active listening. I think the second thing is I've talked a couple of times about storytelling; there's a part of this for me, that really is seeing people as these amazing figures in a story you just haven't read yet. I think when I practice empathy, it often is just me really taking an interest more deeply in the why somebody does what they do as opposed to what they are doing. This hearkens back to Simon Sinek, who was a leadership consultant, or coach, but he had that phrase in a TED Talk where he said, “People don't buy what you do, they buy why you do it.” I think for me, that boils down to the core, how I think about if you want to cultivate empathy as a muscle, or a skill, it's really asking that question, “Why did they do that?” An actual tool that I often use in my work is something called empathy mapping, which is often used in UX design actually, in tech, to really think about human centered approaches to product design. But it lays out all of these ways about how do you think they would feel? How do you think they would see this? How do you think they would hear, or receive this message? And then it really gets you to ask this question about why would they react this way to what you're about to present, or why would they react to these set of circumstances in a certain way? CHANTÉ: One of the things that you're talking about here is the empathy mapping. I actually do this course, or this workshop with some collaborators around designing for inclusion and that is something that we really focus on. Have you seen that in practice well somewhere that you could illustrate, or show? I guess, we could provide an example, or a case study so folks know what you're talking about. COREY: Yeah. One of the things that this makes me think of is Google Assistant space, which is also a space that I spent some time in. But within the Google's Trust and Safety team, there was a focus on thinking about digital assistants and whether they had an inclusive voice when it came to gender, because there is a lot of research now that exists about voices and people perceive assistants to be female, but because of the voices. Companies are really doing a lot of that work now to think through what the implications are around that. But at the time, I remember in this work very early on, what I thought was interesting about this was just the steps that the Trust and Safety team went through to actually figure out if there was an issue here because you design a product, the product is meant to respond to queries. But soon, what they started finding was that maybe some of the queries that the digital assistant was getting were actually maybe more vulgar, or maybe more derogatory. So how does that break down? Does that break down like, is it just objectively that's how people talk to digital assistants? Well, no, and actually doing work and trying to reduce those offensive, or shocking, or risky experiences, what they found was that maybe this is actually offensive, or derogatory on the Google Assistant voices that present, or sound feminine. So now that we have done this research, how can we actually address that in the broader product? I think the Google Assistant then did things to try to make the voices more gender neutral, to provide more options so that there were a range of voices and then also, not necessarily default to the feminine voice, or not even call them feminine. I think they started calling them like Voice 1, Voice 2. So I think that that's one example of that I know, that I am aware of where when you're thinking about inclusion as it could be an objective truth that you're here to provide an answer to a problem. But often, that problem that you're solving might actually have many other subproblems within it. But the idea of inclusive design is important. It's an important lens for everybody to have honestly, on the product, because there are a range of things that might be happening that we're just not aware of. But certainly, the power of doing extensive UX research, or a deep dive on some of those things, I think is what helps augment and move us away from those types of snafus happening in our technologies. CHANTÉ: That was a beautiful example. Thank you. That sounds like a really cool project that you got to be a part of. Was there anything else that you learned from being on that project team that you can share? COREY: Yeah. Well, I should say, first off, this happened before I came into the team, but I think it was one of the things that I found very powerful about the team itself, doing the work and also, where they were centering people. I think that was one of the reasons why I've also been very interested in policy within tech, because it very much it's about centering and advocating for best practices for people and defining what users actually are. But I think for me, the lesson that I took from that just was again, that we all really have to be our advocates for this type of work and this type of change in the products and also, that a lot of this is sometimes not as complicated as we make it out to be. I think that it's really about priorities and what we value. What I appreciated about this team was just this idea of wow, you actually value not just the objective user, but the user in a sense of what context would they use this and how would this impact this community that we're trying to build this ecosystem? ARTY: So there's something you said earlier that really struck me when you were talking about this example with empathizing for these people that had been exposed to anti-transgender ideas and sitting down and listening. One thing that strikes me about that is just that as opposed to these people being a certain way, you framed things as these people were exposed to a certain kind of content that then they had this fear that came up in resonant to something that they were exposed to. I see those sorts of dynamics in other contexts. Would you mind elaborating a little more on that thought? COREY: Yeah. I definitely think that we are in – not that 2020, or certainly, the last 4 years since 2016 with President Trump, I don't think that that is unique. I think that it feels exacerbated because on top of that technology has been a lens through which we've seen almost an exponential growth in access to information. It may have outpaced the way in which we also keep up with the ways in which you are skeptically dissecting this information and analyzing it for truth and veracity. So I think that there's been a confluence of forces that have made it so that things like misinformation and disinformation are permeating and now, it is easily accessible. One of the things that I think about a lot in this space, as it relates to diversity, equity, and inclusion and why I think empathy is so important is that I feel like it can become very easy to go down this path because we're always looking for ways to validate our own experiences. So if there's one thing that we – an easy way to do it that is harmful, or damaging to others, is to validate by saying that, “Well, it can't be that over there.” I'm invalidating that to bolster the way that I see the world, or my experiences. What I really focus on from my work and why I think the empathy piece has been so powerful is that it's a reminder as we move through that cycle of how can you be more empathetic, that at the core of our human experience is this idea that we all do not like the feeling of being othered, or unseen. Even if for someone who feels like they are, whether you agree or disagree with this idea, I'm disaffected. I think this election cycle is a great example. A lot of people felt disaffected on both sides like, you're white middle-class, or you're Black and in poverty, or you're white and in poverty. You have all these sects of people that are like, “Ah, nobody's listening to me,” and that's reinforced because you're like, “Nobody has the experience that I have and nobody knows what it's like to feel othered like this.” But actually, the reality is, regardless of whether you understand what it means to be grow up white and poor, or Black and affluent, or Black and poor, or white and affluent, you all have this common experience where you have been othered at some point. Empathy says at the core of that human experience is something we all should be able to understand. So we're not necessarily focusing on what you went through so much as why did you have to go through it? I think that this disinformation, this misinformation feeds the – If we had more empathy, I think that would be the thing that would combat this because it would allow us to ask the right questions around maybe this is true, maybe this is not true. If I don't have the tools to actually assess whether it's true or real, what I can say is that I need to really think about the community that is centered in this story and understand how this would make them feel if this were true, how does it make them feel if this were not true. I think that that's where empathy and developing that as a skill could do a lot more work in this space where we're probably only going to see more honestly, content, or information where we have to vet where it comes from, whether it's real, who’s saying it and why they're saying it. ARTY: Yeah. I was thinking about how powerful it is just that even in listening to this context, as opposed to trying to correct it, what you did find was this commonality of, “Oh, we both have a desire to feel safe, it is part of the human experience,” and then with this disinformation, you've got this dynamic that really plays on fear. A lot of this information that's associated with fear reminds me of this TED Talk by Daryl Davis that I think Chanté, you're the one who actually had me listen to that. But specifically, that ignorance breeds fear breeds hate and then if we can go about empathizing and listening and building those connections and tackling the ignorance, that it can have a chain reaction effect on all of these other things. COREY: Yeah. This has made me randomly think of a song lyric by Nas, street prophet that he is, but his song with Puff Daddy, or P. Diddy, or whoever he was calling himself at the time called Hate Me Now. He said that line: people “fear what they don't understand, hate what they can't conquer. I guess, that's just a theory of man.” I was like, ah, this is making me think about that because I think so often, we are pushed into those lanes where the idea is to think that you have to conquer something. So it's like your safety, your capacity to do what you want to do in this world is won by subjugating, or by conquering something else, someone else and that's the only way that it can happen. And then also that fear piece; if I don't understand it, then it's not safe. So if I can't wrap my head around it, then I need to assume the worst and fear it. I think why empathy has been so powerful for me is one, because we don't often talk about it as something that we can actually cultivate. We often talk about it in a you either have it, or you don't, or it's a natural gift, or it isn't. I think it actually is something that can be cultivated and brought to bear, like in that research, where it’s like this was a community. I think the first time I did it, it was in South Florida, or maybe somewhere outside of Miami. I'm not actually sure of the specific locale, but this community had been subjected to all sorts of messaging around the transgender community, because it was meant to drive a particular position, or opinion on a bill around bathrooms and whether bathrooms could be used by people of the multiple genders, or you had to have separate men and women bathrooms. They were able to do through this research, they were able to find that not only were they able to shift people's perception around those issues—actually shift them positively in the direction of saying like, “Oh, actually I do support transgender rights in this conversation.” But that it was a statistically significant shift and it lasted for three months after that conversation when they did a check-in. So I think that it just really speaks to we don't have to fear what we don't understand. If you really just take the time to let people really work out their own narrative for themselves, they will often figure out that their own narratives are incongruent with how they actually are showing up in the space and it's not about telling them, “Your narrative is off,” like, “You're wrong.” I think that there's value in that, but if you're going to make the real change over time, in psychology, they call it act of processing. There's value in actually getting people to their own whatever it is, whatever reason they have for fearing what they don't understand to process that out loud in a way where they can actually be like, “I was heard and are realized that hearing myself is incongruent with how I actually like what I actually value.” So maybe coming to my own conclusions, I don't have to fear this, even though I don't understand all the parts of that experience CHANTÉ: That was really helpful, Corey and one of the thought bubbles—well, one of the many that popped up as you were responding to Arty's question was how do we then, because it sounds like there's a lot of value in anticipating, or using tech and policy for good in those moments. I'm just wondering, I know that you consult around this. So maybe take us down that avenue, because I think we're at this place where we've seen coming off of this last election, the power of the misinformation strategies and how we've partnered that with let's say, the Cambridge Analytica situation where they used data to underpin those fears and then really influenced a community, or a country to the space that they wanted them to be. How do we get ahead of that? What are some things we can do? Or what are some things maybe you're working on that are worth mentioning here today? COREY: Yeah. So those are very, very good questions, or good thoughts. I think that one thing that just thinking about even as you were saying with Cambridge Analytica, my first thought was just that we have existed in the technological space, in this information age where empowering people online, I feel like it has been separate from the using the data, or giving the data up in a way that, or using the data or giving the data up. By that I mean, essentially, we're using these products and tools, wouldn't have never really thought about it as a platform for change, or a platform to see the world we want to sees except for these little blips, or these moments where there are revolutions around like Arab Spring. That was driven, I believe on Facebook and then conversations again, around Black Lives Matter because of live video that we now have, we're able to capture the experiences in real time. So I think that the first thing that I would say is how can we actually educate people around being empowered online? You have a voice, but it's not just the voice to repeat what you have heard, but really to lend your own voice, your own vulnerability, your own story to what's happening in these forms. I think the second thing really is it comes down to the companies. I think that a lot of my conversations, when it comes to disinformation and misinformation, really comes back to values. Many companies, particularly ones that are community-focused and saying that our users are a part of an ecosystem, have to really ask themselves about what ecosystem are you actually trying to build? Because at a certain point, particularly if you are a private company, there are good ecosystems and there are destructive ecosystems. So it can't be a libertarian view of the technology is just a tool and it will all sort itself out. It actually has to be maybe more curated than that and that might not have been the initial approach of technology. Certainly, wasn't the approach to the world wide web either when it first started out. It was just like, anybody could create a geo site, anybody could do anything on the internet, but in some ways, I think that view of technology maybe has to change. It helps lends itself very well to innovation, but the challenge is that it creates a lot of loopholes for abuse. So then I think companies, as they start curating their experiences more, it has to be centered on very clear community values. What is your ideal world and your ideal state that you want to be contributing to as a part of this broader conversation around information and sharing data for the benefit of others? Most of these companies have that in their mission somewhere. They believe that they're doing a public good, even if they're also profiting in the process. Well, if that's true, then what values get you there and keep you there? So I think that that's how the disinformation and misinformation is allowed to persist, because there's just questions that you have to ask around are some things allowable within this ecosystem? Are we willing to take a hard line on some things for the benefit of the greater good? Then it’s also acknowledging that it is hard being in technology and now it's like, even if you're 99% effective at something, if you have a billion users, that's still millions of people, or millions of cases. You have to then also acknowledge that you're always working and it never will be good enough, but you can try to close that gap and be consistent on what you actually value and believe and that at least shows a bit of sincerity over time around what you're trying to do. CHANTÉ: I appreciate your take on that. One thing I might imagine to be true, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think from what I've seen is that the tech policy space is not Black enough. It is not; I don't see enough BIPOC folks. I don't see people really, outside of cis able-bodied white guys in that space. Is there anything that you recommend in terms of trying to change that so that in the future where we're going to have, for sure, undoubtedly more mixed-race people, just given the trends that we're on, how do we address that, or how do we curate for that? COREY: Yeah. I mean, so much of – it reminds me of the story I was telling about biology and going into lab is that I think so much of it is about really understanding the possibilities of what is actually out there and having someone tell you, or exposing you to what those possibilities are. Some of that is pipeline development. So I think we're many of these companies and also, just not even tech companies, but policy in general. This base is about how do you invest back in these communities, knowing that it might pay dividends in 10, or 15 years down the road to have this more diverse ecosystem of policy people, or practitioners, or technologists. Even if you're not developing them particularly for a job today, but down the road. I mean, I think some of that is pipeline investment and actually just telling people at a young age, “I see you, here's the three things you need to get started,” and then the sky's the limit. I know there are some programs around coding that have taken off where people go into the community and do that. It will be interesting to see how, if we were to look over time, whether that's really changing the overall dynamics of actual Black engineers, or BIPOC engineers, or a diverse representation of engineers. But I think that that would be the same for policy and the other thing that I would say is it would seem that many companies, in the tech space in particular, did not actually have – whether they should have, or shouldn’t have, they didn't necessarily have to focus on these types of questions for their growth and success in the early stages. So I think that that also meant that there just wasn't an investment in the broader, we need a policy team. Maybe there were people there to focus on policy and ask these questions. But I think as we continue to see the growth and the impact of companies on just everything like our economic systems, the way we behave, and the way we think about different issues. Now, it is really important to think not just about whether building this product is going to net an additional 100,000 users, at the expense of so many other things, will it affect the political conversation happening in this country? Will it affect the access to resources in this place? Now we're seeing the investment in those communities and spaces, for companies that are growing, or building now, I think it's about really investing in there early and make sure you have the right team and the right representation of the team to address the issues that you could foresee being a challenge, or being a space that your product will exist in. But I think policy is certainly one of many professional spaces where you do see underrepresentation really because of access, or knowledge about the opportunity. I'll just say, because this is a long, long way of saying, but I want to end with a personal story where it's just even for myself going into the technology space, I was always interested in policy, but really from the lens of how you can go directly into government as a civil servant and I try to push the machine, or move through the bureaucracy to actually make effective rules, or regulations that mattered, or meant something to different communities and I think government can still be that thing. There's a lot of challenges there, but it still can be that force. What I didn't realize was that this existed in the tech world, that these were conversations that were happening, that companies were having an influence on the way we legislate, or the way we behave, or the way we think about all sorts of issues that would “fit squarely” in the policy world. It was only through my kind of exploration, but also, connecting with people who had gone over to these companies, in these spaces and the privilege that I had of being able to go to different institutions, where I had access to people who could have these conversations with me, where I realized hey, I could be in this space. But it was something that I didn't even realize was a thing and would never have explored, otherwise. So I think that that also for me, recognizing that I had access to resources and tools that helped me even see it as a possibility and so, I think that has to be the thing that we're in the companies that anybody who has the privilege, or capacity to do so should be investing in. CHANTÉ: Yeah. ARTY: I feel like there's some things that we could do in terms of new precedent setting, that we could do as a broader tech community, that could help drive change of adopting cultural practices within the context of organizations and everything that flows from there. So one of the key threads you brought up was that it comes down to values and we ought to start with having a clear set of things that we want to value as a community and build as organizations and build around that. I started thinking back to you mentioned early days of the internet when anybody could do anything and spin stuff up on the internet and I think about some of the early tech interfaces and stuff we had and I feel like there was a lot more community and curation type things, too. We had message boards and I think about AOL days where you have little chatrooms that you join and stuff that were topic-focused. It seems like, as opposed to being these topic-focused finding each other kind of things by having similar shared interests, we've shifted to this follower type model where it's just about networking and connecting with the people and not necessarily being connected for any other purpose other than getting the most followers. So the purpose becomes the network and then the identity stuff is associated with how many followers you have and how many retweets you get. The dynamics of how we've framed identity dynamics and communication dynamics in tech has shifted quite dramatically. Tech has shifted the internet and then the people seem to have kind of shifted a mirror of the technology that we built. So I'm thinking if we take a step back and start with what you're saying in terms of community values and what a reflection of that would look like technology wise, but what if we started with a manifesto and some vision, even if it's rough vision, of what that might look like? Do you have any thoughts on, if you were to write some of those things down, what you would say? COREY: Yeah. This is making me – and I don't know them off the top of my head, but it's making me think of some of the AI ethics work, artificial intelligence work that several people are working on right now. I think of Dr. Ruha Benjamin, it was Dr. Tim McGraw, I think of a few other contemporaries of them, but there's actually, I think an Algorithmic Justice League where they are actually thinking of that. There's a manifesto of sorts, or a thing that we should be believing and that underpins the ethics that we should have as it relates to that technology. If I were to think of just a couple of things, the first would really be around the empowerment piece and I think I mentioned that before that we're promoting people to feel not just that they can speak, or be on a platform, or they can have access, but that they are empowered with the information, which in my mind, when I say empowered means that they can actually, it's a call to action. They believe that they can do more of the thing that they want to do. I think that is important because then it helps you actually center, it makes you actually have to question all of the communities that are on the platform and what you want them to actually be able to be called to do. Right now, not saying empowerment means that I feel like you're removed from the actual impact of what you are allowing to be shared, or allowing to be set on the platform. I think the second is while there are a lot of companies that would say they do this; it is important to call out safety and authenticity as maybe two and three. The idea is to really root in vulnerability, the idea is really to root in this idea of safety, psychological safety, but also physical, depending on whatever the product is. Because again, I think that those two things require you to then center the user and actually really think about well, what does it mean to actually build a safe community where most of all people feel safe psychologically and while also being their truest selves. Those were the three values, or the three areas where I feel like you would shape some type of principles around, but I also just want to say, I love your point because I do think that in some ways, the way in which we consume technology, or consume information now has really centered on this viral nature. I think in some ways, virality motivates the way that information is even propagated. Whereas before, when you're talking about these interests, it may have really been just genuinely about the interest and then it coalesced around that chatroom. But now virality, because that is the name of the game in so many ways, it almost requires people who have figured out the model of how to make things viral as opposed to people who have figured out something to say that is substantive, or something to say that is empowering to our broader community. Those two things are not always overlapping and so, you have people who will influence and then systems that might reinforce that influence when the influence is not necessarily earned on the merits of actually being empowering, or safe, or authentic dialogue. So I think you're absolutely spot on that like, the way that we consume has shifted to maybe wanting things to be viral and virality being almost the barometer of truth and value when that's not always the case. CHANTÉ: It makes me think that perhaps we've been focusing so much on the tech and the product space, that nobody is—I shouldn't say nobody—but we probably haven't focused enough on the actual consumer and making sure that we stand up resources, or a hub to inform them and make them smarter consumers. Because as we know, every click leads to a dollar, or every like leads to something. So I think we reinforce the system unknowingly. COREY: Yeah. CHANTÉ: I often feel this sort of pull, I don't know about you, but I've been watching versus on Instagram. Are you familiar with versus? COREY: Yes, yes. There have been some good ones. There also have been some duds, but yes. CHANTÉ: Duds, I know. Don't get me started, but #BlackTwitter, right? I'm like, “Oh wow.” So where I was getting excited and I was online early for the pandemic, but there was this part of me that just couldn't. I didn't want to get too attached, or too into it because I was like, “Man, look, we're on somebody else's platform making them money.” I know that there's some stuff being done to shift that and I see this a lot with the Black culture specifically, I feel like sometimes we're online and we're making this tech space, or this product really dope and nobody's there to protect us as consumers. I get really upset about that and I just want so badly to make sure that the consumers are educated, that they are informed and understanding how they should, or shouldn't be using their social capital. How they should, or shouldn't be supporting something that probably doesn't always have their best interests at heart. I don't know, it's not like there's one or two of us who have to be responsible, there's a whole – it's everyone's job. Do you of any collectives, or projects, or are you a part of anything that is aiming to do that? COREY: Yeah. Again, a really, really good point. That really resonates because, I'll just say before I answer the question, I've had that conversation around memes because I feel like memes are such a way that we communicate now as a part of popular culture, but I don't have the tools necessary to trace the lineage of the first meme, but I would bet again, going back to the virality of means that there was something that was also infused with Black youth culture in America that made memes popular and then made them more ubiquitous. So this idea of making technology cool is because there is a culture that is infused in again, making it cool. It's a tool that then you have a community, it feels empowered to do something a certain way, but then that empowerment is not protected. I would say that just in my experience in tech, I have seen companies that have made investments in this conversation on equity and well-being where really, the goal is to how do you work more closely with and partner with creators? How do you work more closely with users of the platform, either through research, or actually through direct partnerships to understand how the tool is actually being used and what are ways that actually supplement the way in which they are using it today? I know in the very, very beginning stages of Twitter, that was one reason why Twitter took off was because Twitter was just – I think it might've started, was it a 100 characters? I don't even know now is way more, maybe it started with the 140 characters, but other than just being that platform tweet 140 characters, everything else was community generated RTs, the idea of having a retweet button, these different features very early on were all things that had organically risen out from the community and they just listened. So I think in many ways, it was cool to see our product at that early stage just say we've created a tool where they were just going to see how people use it and then build on top of that. I think that that work's still happening. Companies should continue to invest in it, of course, but really listening to your creators and rather than saying, “Here's what we need you to fit, we are going to start doing that,” doing more of learning how you're using it is either about talking to you directly, or analyzing or examining it and really understanding what will matter to you and now we're augmenting that with this feature that we have listened to you and heard that you need. And then on the reverse side, proactively thinking about these are the issues that people are citing that they have, then make them feel unsafe, make them feel like they can actually have a voice on this platform and we are listening to that and we are actively going address that even if it's not going to necessarily net us an additional dollar spent, or an additional user earn. This is important because this is preventing you from using a platform to the fullest. So I've seen some things since I have been in the space, I think much of it is going to have to be a continued investment. I can't think of any one product, or any one area where I feel like it's like really landed. But I also think that that speaks to the broader point, which is that it's a journey and then as you continue to grow as companies, you're going to have more challenges. But also, I see opportunities because you're bringing more communities and more people onto the platform and as you scale, that has to be a part of the conversation. It's not just going to be a monolith, or one trigger response to a collective user, but actually many different types of users on your platform. CHANTÉ: No doubt. I’m trying to remember when it was specifically, it was probably three, four weeks ago when there was all this big announcement about Clubhouse, for example, going and people specifically felt some kind of way because here you had a situation where there was a bunch of Black users who were early on joining and you even had a Black man who was the representative of the icon and people were like, “Wait a minute. We're not being involved in this whole opportunity for more funding and what does that mean for us?” I listened in that week to a bunch of conversations and folks were incensed; they felt left out, they felt overlooked, taken advantage of. I think we've seen some action spur out of that, but it just reminded me of that moment that we have a lot of power collectively as a community. But you have to have times and spaces where people can organize and communicate that are not dependent upon somebody else's online community that looks free, but maybe it's not and my feeling is that it has to be a multi-stakeholder groups that are holding these technology companies and even the investor community accountable, but also at the same time, there's got to be people who are thinking about just consumer education and consumer engagement period, because we're only going to see more of this, not less of it. COREY: Yes, on multiple points. Having worked in privacy for some time as well doing policy work, that is something that comes up continually is that even as you build out more mechanisms to keep people's data safe, or you're like, “Hey, we actually are committed to the cause and this is all the work that we're going to do to protect your data,” the number of choices become unwieldy if you don't also have an education around all the things that a company can do with your data. So then it almost feels insincere if all of these things are offered without the education, or the continual reinforcement in different ways throughout their product, or their company's values. And then your point about Clubhouse. Actually, I remember reading that and I agree. Again, it really speaks to what I was saying about the meme piece where it’s like there is something that becomes really, really cool and it helps the technology take off and then it suddenly comes ubiquitous in this different way and it's like, “Whoa, wow, did we really think about the core experience?” How the course readings was shaped by a smaller community, but a very important one. But then the other thing I think about with Clubhouse, but I think a lot of apps are guilty of this in the US is, also just from a tech equity perspective, leaning into the iPhone development space in and of itself often, I feel like creates its own barriers around elitism and privilege. Not because iPhone, or Apple is uniquely trying to say, “Here's our image and here's who the customers are that we have.” But actually, that just even being on Clubhouse in and of itself, or iPhone only products often leave out an entire demographic of people when you think even in the US, I think 50 something percent of people are still are Android users and then you think globally, Android actually has a ridiculous market share of way more than Apple globally. So I was just what you're also thinking about the equity perspective and inclusion, I often think about that as well. Even at the outset, you're already narrowing the lens a little bit, and I get some of that as developmental challenges, but given all the success—I remember reading this article about Clubhouse and what they're worth, I'm like, “Wow, it's all of that.” It would seem like for me, the next step would be now invest in the development of an Android app in order to really see us reach that community, a broader community of which some of the people who help shape the core experience are representative sample of, but we could probably get so much more from this broader community. CHANTÉ: Yes like, I wish I had a lot of snap effects going right now. I agree with that, obviously. So thank you. ARTY: We're getting to the end of the show where we finish up with reflections. So the thing that—I mean, there's so many things in the show—I've been thinking about this idea of what it means to center around core values and community and what type of communities we want to build and everything that follows from those core values and especially this idea of centering around empowerment. I feel like that makes a lot of sense: centering around empowerment. If our goal in building these spaces is to empower people, then what are all the systems and policies and things that follow with that goal of empowerment in mind, how do we raise and lift up people, and create supportive spaces that do that? I think back to one of the things you said at the beginning around authenticity and the ability to, or this conversation that you had, where I think it was your manager, Corey, that asked you, “How are you?” which is normally this plain old question that you just reply with, “Oh, good.” There's an expectation that it's almost rhetorical like, we're just moving on and touching base and not really saying anything of substance. But there's something fundamentally different there with, “No, how are you?” and it's not about the words you're saying, it's about the intention to actually listen. The intention of giving someone the space to let their guard down, to be their authentic self, to tell you what's real. With this goal of empowerment, I feel like that's another aspect that's really important is being able to create spaces where we can drop our guard and be real. We can say what's really going on. In order to learn, we’ve got to be able to be ourselves, too and I feel like there's a lesson in the small in that of something that we can all make an effort to do when we interact with people to really ask them, “How are you really doing? What's really going on?” As opposed to trying to fix it, to change anything, to just listen, to really listen to what's going on with them, to finding those commonalities of, “Oh, I guess we all just want to be safe.” Seeing those things that are the same, as opposed to trying to fix, or change someone else, just focusing on listening and hearing where they're coming from. I feel like if we move toward those combination of things with that intention, with that goal in mind, with that being our why, that how we design the technology, how we design the policies that follow from that will help move us in the right direction. CHANTÉ: For me, I'm thinking a lot about this empathy piece, because it makes me pause and say, “While I prioritize it, I value it,” I just don't know how many hiring managers out there are actually looking for and building empathy into one of their core values that they're prioritizing on their hiring rubric. But as we move to this next fourth industrial revolution where we're automating and people are losing their jobs, we can't outsource empathy. So it's something that we definitely need to make sure we are working on individually and if you have children, I hope that people are thinking about ways that they can cultivate that early in young and teachers and educators, and especially folks who want to be a founder, or they want to be an investor. I think this is something that takes a community effort and I want to hear more people talking about empathy.

The Glo Podcast
Professor Rhonda Magee on The Glo Podcast: Racism Inside Us

The Glo Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2021 81:33


Derik Mills and Professor Rhonda Magee discuss systems of white supremacy and white privilege, and how being “colorblind” denies how race plays an active role in our everyday existence. They explore Professor Magee's “color-insight” approach and the work of other groundbreaking thought leaders in social justice both past and present, including those of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., James Baldwin, and Professor Eddie Glaude. This episode weaves together activism, how to be an anti-racist, and mindfulness practices.LINKSRhonda Magee is the author of The Inner Work of Racial Justice: Healing Ourselves and Transforming Our Communities Through Mindfulness.A TEDx talk by Professor Magee.Derik and Rhonda spoke about feminist Peggy McIntosh. Here are some reference links.  https://www.wcwonline.org/Active-Researchers/peggy-mcintosh-phdhttps://nationalseedproject.org/about-us/white-privilegeDerik mentioned an episode of the podcast Code Switch titled The Fire Still Burning. My Grandmother's Hands by Resmaa MenakemListen to all episodes of The Glo Podcast at http://glo.com/podcast

Unsafe Space
[Episode 0480] [#Covfefe Break] Mayor Hypocrite, Magic Words, and White Privilege

Unsafe Space

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2020 144:32


Carter and Keri honor Walter Williams, who passed away this week, by reading several quotes from the prolific and brilliant economist. Next they observe the memory hole into which the obsequious media has thrown the name "Ellen Page," replacing it with the woke actress' new moniker, Elliot Page. Who starred in the movie "Juno" as a pregnant teenage girl? A guy named, "Elliot," don't you remember? Some intermittent frivolity ensues when Keri announces that her pronouns include the phase "your mom." The two then wonder if there is a French Laundry in Cabo San Lucas as they contemplate the revelation that Austin Mayor Steve Adler was vacationing there while admonishing Austin residents back home to "stay home and be safe." His later apology for "confusing" people with his hypocritical behavior is then treated with all the reverence it deserves. This sparks a discussion about how the left uses words solely as magic spells for manipulating others, rather than as referents to an objective reality. Finally, Keri and Carter flip through the recently leaked slide deck used to indoctrinate San Diego teachers into the "White Privilege" cult of unearned guilt and leftist activism. Carter provides a rule of thumb to expose their moral code: “You shouldn't be able to sin while in a coma." Links Referenced in the Show: Walter Williams quotes: https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/235021.Walter_E_Williams Austin Mayor Steve Adler's Cabo vacation message: https://www.statesman.com/story/news/coronavirus/2020/12/02/austin-mayor-stressed-residents-lsquoneed-to-stay-homersquo-he-was-vacationing-in-cabo-at-time/115087704/ Steve Adler's "apology": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JWOC86zF7A&feature=youtu.be&t=467 The Simpsons predicts Adler: https://youtu.be/8cPLpyHeha0 Ellen Page becomes Elliot Page: https://twitter.com/TheElliotPage/status/1333820783655837701/photo/1 Elliot Page on Rotten Tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/elliot_page Elliot Page on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/prime-video/actor/Elliot-Page/nm0680983/ IMDB flirting with heresy by putting the name "Ellen Page" in parenthesis: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0467406 Newsweek reminding you that Ellen Page never ever existed and you better not pretend she did: https://www.newsweek.com/elliot-page-deadname-birth-name-1551714 Tim Minchin, "Storm": https://youtu.be/HhGuXCuDb1U Tim Minchin, "Prejudice": https://youtu.be/KVN_0qvuhhw Leaked PowerPoint of San Diego White Fragility indoctrination, courtesy Christopher Rufo: https://christopherrufo.com/mandatory-white-privilege-training-for-san-diego-teachers/ Vox article on the Implicit Association Test: https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/3/7/14637626/implicit-association-test-racism Deprogrammed episode about Peggy McIntosh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS33LEVdM00 Joe Biden's "joke": https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1334686548122591235 James Lindsay's site: https://newdiscourses.com/ Thanks for Watching! The best way to follow Unsafe Space, no matter which platforms ban us, is to visit: https://unsafespace.com While we're still allowed on YouTube, please don't forget to verify that you're subscribed, and to like and share this episode. You can find us there at: https://unsafespace.com/channel For episode clips, visit: https://unsafespace.com/clips Also, come join our community of dangerous thinkers at the following social media sites...at least until we get banned: Twitter: @unsafespace Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unsafepage Instagram: @_unsafespace Gab: @unsafe Minds: @unsafe Parler: @unsafespace Locals: unsafespace.locals.com MeWe: https://mewe.com/p/unsafespace Telegram Chat: https://t.me/joinchat/H4OUclXTz4xwF9EapZekPg To help us continue operating, please visit: https://unsafespace.com/donate Don't forget to pick up some Unsafe Space merch while you're there!

Necessary Rebels
Ep. 2 Anti-racist allyship with Meg Lyons

Necessary Rebels

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2020 40:23


Professional coach Meg Lyons tells us about her personal journey in becoming an anti-racist ally.  Reading list for this episode: Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson, Me and White Supremacy by Layla F. Saad; White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh (https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf); Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates.

The Westside Podcast—featuring Randy Frazee

Allie Beth Stuckey interview with Neil Shenvi on Critical Theory.   Neil Shenvi - from a Christian perspective.   James Lindsay - secular academic.   Christopher Rufo - secular cultural researcher whose research prompted the federal ban on teaching critical theory in government institutions and organizations contracted by the government.   Book - secular perspective, “Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity—and Why This Harms Everybody” by Helen Pluckrose and James A. Lindsay.   Article: How to Talk to Your Employer about Anti-Racism.   Critical Theory reduces all relationships to power. Who has it and who doesn't. Oppressor vs. oppressed. White people vs BIPOC.   Response: Jesus teaches us to love because he first loved us. And you exercise influence through loving service wrapped in grace and truth.   Matthew 20:25 - Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave—just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”   Critical Theory reduces all people to their skin color, or identity group, as their primary identity (the most definitive thing to know about you).   Response: Jesus tells us our primary identity is that we are made in the image of God, of infinite value and unconditionally loved by our Creator.   Galatians 3:26 - So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.   Federal ban on teaching critical theory in government institutions and contracted organizations. Summary: You shall not demean, stereotype or scapegoat people based on their race or sex.   This provision then lists “divisive concepts” that cannot be included in workplace training, including DEI training:   one race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex.  the United States is fundamentally racist or sexist.  an individual—by virtue of his or her race or sex—is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously.  an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex.  members of one race or sex cannot and should not attempt to treat others without respect to race or sex.  an individual's moral character is necessarily determined by his or her race or sex.  an individual—by virtue of his or her race or sex—bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex. any individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race or sex. meritocracy or traits, such as a hard work ethic, are racist or sexist, or were created by a particular race to oppress another race.   Tenets of Critical Theory: Critical theory emphasizes group identity over individualism. Individual identity is inseparable from group identity as ‘oppressed' or ‘oppressor.'   “My schooling gave me no training in seeing myself as an oppressor… I was taught to see myself as an individual whose moral state depended on her individual moral will.” – Peggy McIntosh, “White Privilege and Male Privilege,” in Andersen and Collins, Race, Class, and Gender: An Anthology, p. 72.   Critical theory defines oppression as the exercise of hegemonic power—the ability of a group to impose its values, norms and expectations of society. Oppressor groups subjugate oppressed groups through the exercise of hegemonic power.   “Concepts of hegemony enable us to appreciate how dominant groups manipulate symbols and images to construct ‘common sense' and thereby maintain their power.” – Jacob P. K. Gross, “Education and Hegemony: The Influence of Antonio Gramsci” in Beyond Critique: Exploring Critical and Social Theories in Education, p. 57, 65.   Smithsonian Infographic—the National Museum of African American history and culture which is a component of the Smithsonian Institute a federally funded organization    Critical theory dismisses ‘reason' and ‘evidence' as self-serving justifications for oppression. Scientific method, evidence, statistics, etc. are tools of the oppressor.   A quote from Delgado's “Critical Race Theory: An Introduction” says, “critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law.”   Critical theory sees intersectional ‘lived experience' as an epistemic advantage. ‘Lived experience' is more important than objective evidence in understanding oppression— i.e.,the lower one is on the intersectional hierarchy of the higher one's perspective on truth. To question the oppressed persons lived experience is evidence of racism.   “The idea that objectivity is best reached only through rational thought is a specifically Western and masculine way of thinking – one that we will challenge throughout this book.” – Margaret L. Andersen and Patricia Hill Collins, “Reconstructing Knowledge,” in Anderson and Collins, Race, Class, and Gender, p. 4-5.   Our fundamental moral duty is freeing groups from oppression. Cancel culture or call out culture - make oppression visible. Civil discourse, exchange of ideas, freedom of speech, mutual understanding, etc. is not a value. You don't have an individual voice. You are a mouthpiece for your identity group.    The goal is not to “win” the argument through civil discourse. It is to overpower or silence the argument by any means necessary.   A posture for us from scripture: Romans 12:9-21: Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. Share with the Lord's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.   Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.   Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary:   If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.   Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.   Submit Q&A Questions and episode suggestions here.   Watch the podcast video here!

The Heart of the Matter in Black and White

The topic of white privilege has been the thread that has gone through every episode of this podcast, so it seemed the perfect way to conclude the season. In our final episode, we talk about both what white privilege is and dispel many of the myths about what it is not. Talking with white people about privilege often provokes denial, anger, or total misdirection, but let us be clear. White privilege is not a judgment. It is a fact. Even for those who have grown up in extreme poverty, the advantages and protections that come with white privilege are very real. If you are white and poor, you still experience some of the benefits of white privilege. We reflect on many of the items on Peggy McIntosh's iconic list of white privilege that apply regardless of financial means. And to conclude this season, we provide practical guidance on how to use privilege for good. Thank you for listening and we look forward to next season!

The Business of Thinking Big
Building an Inclusive Business

The Business of Thinking Big

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2020 61:52


Episode #84: Building and Inclusive Business with Christina SackeyfioThis episode is the audio recording of a session that took place within the Mamas & Co. community. Our members were deeply affected by the events that led to the resurgence of the Black Lives Matter movement around the world. It was clear, that as an international organization, and one that prided itself in being inclusive, we had to step-up and give our members, and ourselves, the opportunity to learn what we didn't know and grow by providing the platform for us to engage in uncomfortable conversations and ask the difficult questions.We asked Christina Sackeyfio of Boldly Inclusive to help us navigate the sensitive and highly important issues of diversity, inclusion and belonging. It was essential that we, as business owners and leaders create spaces where everyone, clients and employees, belong and can thrive. Christina shared her 5 pillars of building an inclusive business as well as answered hard-hitting questions from our members.This was an eye-opening talk, and it gave resources to help our members become better educated in systemic racism, the steps to take in becoming better allies, and how they can become better leaders in their own communities. Links mentioned in during the session:Start with Why by Simon Sinek https://www.amazon.ca/Start-Why-Leaders-Inspire-Everyone/dp/1591842808/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1592687618&sr=8-1ADKAR Model to Change Management https://www.prosci.com/adkar/adkar-modelSurvey Monkey https://www.surveymonkey.com/Project Implicit https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/ByBlacks.com https://www.byblacks.com/AfroBizWorld.com https://www.afrobizworld.com/The Muse https://www.themuse.com/Daniel Goleman: Three Kinds of Empathy http://www.danielgoleman.info/three-kinds-of-empathy-cognitive-emotional-compassionate/The Business of Thinking Big PodcastEpisode #81: Leadership & Inclusivity https://www.liannekim.com/blog/81White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo https://www.amazon.ca/White-Fragility-People-About-Racism/dp/0807047414White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdfChristina Sackeyfio, Boldly Inclusive http://www.boldlyinclusive.co/Christina's LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinasackeyfio/Christina's Twitter handle @BeEvenBolder https://twitter.com/BeEvenBolder

The Moms I Know Podcast
Critical Self-Reflection on the Topic of Racial Identity: Modeling Introspection for Our Children | Interview With Lisa Dominguez Abraham | Episode 84

The Moms I Know Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2020 37:43


For this episode, Lisa Dominguez Abraham joins us to discuss some of the racial disparities in public education that have been highlighted by coronavirus and social unrest. She invites all of us to consider how our position and privileges impact the people around us, recognizing that this might be a particular challenge for white parents who haven't previously considered themselves what Robin DiAngelo calls “part of a racially socialized group.”    “I was taught to recognize racism only in individual acts of meanness by members of my group, never in invisible systems conferring unsought racial dominance on my group from birth.” - Peggy McIntosh, White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, 1989   Although she's not an expert on these issues, Lisa shares her perspectives as a mom, community college English professor and Professional Development Coordinator. She believes parents help children locate themselves in terms of their relationships to their families, their communities, and the natural world, and that part of this awareness should include a consideration of their racial identity and privileges. While these topics might feel uncomfortable, parents can model for their children the way understanding oneself is a continual journey of personal growth and evolution. This episode is vulnerable and far from perfect, but we want to share more of these important conversations with you.  If you have any feedback or questions about this episode, we would love to connect with you to further the conversation.   Resources From This Episode: Lisa Dominguez Abraham: https://www.lisadominguezabraham.com/   ---   Lisa Dominguez Abraham is an English professor at Cosumnes River College, a school that has been noted as one of the 10 most diverse community colleges in the nation. She currently serves as the Professional Development Coordinator at CRC. Her poetry collection Mata Hari Blows a Kiss won the 2016 Swan Scythe Chapbook Contest, and her full-length book of poetry, Coyote Logic, came out from Blue Oak Press in 2019.   Subscribe Now: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher | Google Play

The LIFE WORKS Podcast - Lessons From the Trenches of Life & Business
Episode 024: When Pandemic Meets Police Brutality: Making Sense of the Death of George Floyd, w/Dr. Marisela Martinez-Cola, Author "Bricks Before Brown" (The LIFE WORKS Podcast, Hosted by Mark Botros)

The LIFE WORKS Podcast - Lessons From the Trenches of Life & Business

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2020 57:32


Joining me is long time friend and colleague, Dr. Marisela Martinez-Cola – an Assistant Professor of Sociology at Utah State University. Her areas of research include race, ethnicity, and culture. She is the author of soon-to-be-published, “The Bricks before Brown”, which is a study of race, class, and gender across three school desegregation cases involving Chinese, Mexican, and Native American plaintiffs, which took place before Brown v. Board of Education in 1954. In this interview Dr. Martinez-Cola covers: * The historical perspective and context of what led to George Floyd's death, and how we make sense of it* Why George Floyd’s death has ignited the entire world* White privilege* What people can do to meaningfully support people of color?* How to know if you are “woke”* The Media’s treatment of recent events * Advice to leaders and change makers To connect with Dr. Marisela Martinez-Cola go to:https://michicanaphd.com/ Twitter: @MiChicana4ever Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marisela.cola USU website: https://sociology.usu.edu/people/directory/marisela-martinez-cola A link to all her research/articles: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Marisela_Martinez-Cola To connect with Mark go to:https://markabotros.comInstagram: @markabotrosTwitter: @markbotrosLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mbotros/Email: mark@markabotros.comThe LIFE WORKS Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-life-works-podcast/id1475582936 Resources Referenced during the interview: White Privilege: Dr. Peggy McIntosh's list of taken for granted/unearned benefits of whiteness: https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf Michelle Alexander's The New Jim Crow: https://newjimcrow.com/ Ava Duvernay's The 13th: https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741 White People Rioting for No Reason: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html Example of attempting to stop Looters: https://youtu.be/XAbTOcVJgM8 Anti-racism resources for doing the work: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1BRlF2_zhNe86SGgHa6-VlBO-QgirITwCTugSfKie5Fs/mobilebasichttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1PrAq4iBNb4nVIcTsLcNlW8zjaQXBLkWayL8EaPlh0bc/mobilebasic

The Health Disparities Podcast
Exploring the “invisible knapsack” concept developed by Peggy McIntosh to understand privilege and power in the context of health and diversity. Featuring Christina Jimenez, PhD.

The Health Disparities Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2020 32:58


Christina Jimenez, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor at the University of Colorado, and an expert in the processes of privilege that can both limit and promote opportunities for individuals, dependent on factors such as race, ethnicity, gender and class.

The Health Disparities Podcast
Exploring the “invisible knapsack” concept developed by Peggy McIntosh to understand privilege and power in the context of health and diversity. Featu...

The Health Disparities Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2020 32:58


Christina Jimenez, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor at the University of Colorado, and an expert in the processes of privilege that can both limit and promote opportunities for individuals, dependent on factors such as race, ethnicity, gender and class.

The Mothering Myself Podcast
#23 White privilege, guilt, + radical honesty

The Mothering Myself Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2020 38:28


Struck by the statistics emerging of those dying from covid19 due to comorbidity, this week's mothering myself podcast bravely speaks to white privilege, guilt, and radical honesty. To dream of and create a new paradigm requires us to to acknowledge the world we have inherited, and explore the part we have played in its continuation. In order for us to break any cycle, we must become aware of the cycle that exists to become conscious of the unconscious behaviors perpetuating a harmful experience. This conversation is uncomfortable for me to speak aloud as a privileged white woman because it forces me to confront myself in addition to feeling vulnerable and exposed, and potentially getting it 'wrong'. This episode, like all of the Mothering Myself Podcast episodes, seeks for us to question our experiences and become more aware of the aspects of ourselves that we may overlook.  We are reminded that to overlook our privilege is the greatest privilege; the choice to see ourselves as privileged is unjust and creates a system of inequality/inequity. I invite you to step into the conversation and fumble along with me. I believe more and more that stepping out of our comfort zone is the beginning of living into a new reality. If you're interested in the full article shared concluding this episode, please check out Peggy McIntosh's article, 'Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.' Join our growing community on Instagram where we can connect in real time with one another: @motheringmyselfpodcast Get in touch + learn more here. Special thanks to @MegAnne.Ford of @bekindcoaching for sponsoring Season 2.  

The Wheels Omnibus
The Wheels Omnibus: The Last Black Man in Oxford

The Wheels Omnibus

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2020 16:32


Welcome to the Wheels Omnibus, an Omnibus Academy production hosted by Dean and Mary. In this space, we discuss lifestyle, popular culture, and current events through a quasi-educational lens with the goal of always delivering digestible takeaways. In this episode, Dean and Mary unpack Peggy McIntosh's “Invisible Knapsack” within the context of Dean's experiences across different environments. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

A Different Truth
White Privilege - Part 1

A Different Truth

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2020 61:40


This is the first episode of a 2-part series on White Privilege. In this episode, we look at the concept of white privilege. Using resources from Be The Bridge, as well as Peggy McIntosh's “Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” we'll explain white privilege — what it really is, who has it, and what we can do with it.

KPFA - Womens Magazine
Dr Ella Henry on Maori resistance and Peggy McIntosh on White Privilege

KPFA - Womens Magazine

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2019 59:58


Today at 1pm on KPFA's Women's Magazine Fuifuilupe Niumeitolu talks to Dr. Ella Henry, a Maori scholar and community leader from New Zealand, about her work with her tribe to get the New Zealand government to return their ancestral homelands, the complications and the grief and losses that the colonial violence created for the Maori and how their work contributes to Maori cultural revitalization and towards the goals of Maori self determination in New Zealand. Then Sharon Sobotta talks to Peggy McIntosh the anti-racist feminist activist and scholar who wrote the seminal 1989 article “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” which pioneered putting the dimension of privilege into discussions of power, gender, race, class and sexuality in the United States The post Dr Ella Henry on Maori resistance and Peggy McIntosh on White Privilege appeared first on KPFA.

Unsafe Space
[Episode 156] [Deprogrammed] Unpacking Peggy McIntosh's "White Privilege"

Unsafe Space

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2019 103:51


Carter and Keri walk through Peggy McIntosh's seminal essay, "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack." This paper is widely viewed as responsible for popularizing the term "white privilege." Here's a link to the essay so you can follow along: https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf About Deprogrammed Every Thursday at 11:00 Pacific, former SJW Keri Smith joins Unsafe Space to co-host "Deprogrammed." We'll explore the philosophy, strategy, and tactics that Marxist and postmodern nihilists use to program "Social Justice Warriors," turning otherwise thoughtful, critically-minded individuals into armies of extreme leftist NPCs. Each week, we'll talk about a different aspect of "social justice" culture, drawing both from Keri's personal experience as well as current events. YouTube link to video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/qS33LEVdM00

Quillette Narrated
Unpacking Peggy McIntosh's Knapsack by William Ray

Quillette Narrated

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2019 19:31


Greg Ellis reads Unpacking Peggy McIntosh's Knapsack, William Ray's critical essay about McIntosh's seminal 1989 paper that popularised the concept of 'white privilege.'

Unsafe Space
[LIVE: Episode 037] [Deprogrammed] NYC's Racist Crusade

Unsafe Space

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2018 73:34


This week, Keri and Carter discuss NYC mayor Bill de Blasio's plan to discriminate against gifted high schoolers based on the color of their skin. We'll also explore the shockingly unimpressive and indefensible origins of the modern concept of "white privilege." Join us! Here's a link to the excerpt from Peggy McIntosh's 1988 diary entry masking as an academic "paper" titled, "White Privilege and Male Privilege: A Personal Account of Coming To See Correspondences through Work in Women's Studies" that is generally regarded as the origin of the "white privilege" fantasy gleefully promulgated by the SJW crowd: http://antiracistalliance.com/Unpacking.html About Deprogrammed Every Thursday at 11:00 Pacific, former SJW Keri Smith joins Unsafe Space to co-host "Deprogrammed" We'll explore the philosophy, strategy, and tactics that Marxist and postmodern nihilists use to program "Social Justice Warriors," turning otherwise thoughtful, critically-minded individuals into armies of extreme leftist NPCs. Each week, we'll talk about a different aspect of "social justice" culture, drawing both from Keri's personal experience as well as current event. Video link here: https://youtu.be/IKbVLZW07B0

Teaching While White Podcast
Episode 3: Whiteness Visible - Part 1

Teaching While White Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2017


In this episode, we hear from Peggy McIntosh, author of, White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, and also Debby Irving, author of Waking Up White. Both guests reflect on why they feel it is important to make whiteness visible.

KPFA - Making Contact
Mirrors of Privilege: Making Whiteness Visible – Encore Edition

KPFA - Making Contact

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2017 8:58


Mirrors of Privilege is a remarkable and engaging  film that explores stories from white men and women about their journeys in overcoming issues of unconscious bias and entitlement. From Shakti Butler, director of “Cracking the Codes: The System of Inequity” and “The Way Home: Women Talk About Race in America,” “Mirrors of Privilege” is a must-see for all people who are interested in justice, spiritual growth and community making. This film advances the argument that with transformative learning, a dialogue for learning, changing, healing, and undoing race-based oppression can begin. It features the experiences and stories of White women and men who are social justice advocates. They have worked to gain insight into what it means, as White people, to challenge notions of race, racism, culture and White identity development in the United States. Their shared reflections speak to the denial, defensiveness, guilt, fear and shame often related to these issues and show how these responses can be replaced with solid commitments towards racial justice. Featuring: Dr. Shakti Butler, World Trust founder and Creative Director. Rick Butler; John Scott; Shirley Gutierrez; Peter Shwartz; Stefan Dasho; World Trust (Organization) Film Participants include: Elizabeth Denevi, Jeb Middlebrook, Mary Riordan, Rick Broniec, Marguerite Parks, Peggy McIntosh, Janelle Peterson, Joe Fahey, Gillian Burlingham, Jennifer Juhler, Gary Howard, Tim Wise, Andrea Rabinowitz, Francie Kendall, Dianne Finnerty, Krista Alderson, Kim Irwin ; actors, Aisha Bilal, Judy Blumenfeld, Kumi Oya, Andrew Weed ; dancer, Amara Tabor-Smith. For More Information World Trust Attitudinal Healing Connection Cultures Connecting The People's Institute for Survival and Beyond Mixed Heritage Center Teaching Tolerance Articles & Books White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Backpack Colorblind: The Rise of Post-Racial Politics and the Retreat From Racial Equity Angry Black Bitch Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome:America's Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing Mirrors of Privilege: Making Whiteness Visible pt 1  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KYJl0PECv8   The post Mirrors of Privilege: Making Whiteness Visible – Encore Edition appeared first on KPFA.

KPFA - Making Contact
Mirrors of Privilege

KPFA - Making Contact

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2017 4:29


Mirrors of Privilege is a remarkable and engaging  film that explores stories from white men and women about their journeys in overcoming issues of unconscious bias and entitlement. From Shakti Butler, director of “Cracking the Codes: The System of Inequity” and “The Way Home: Women Talk About Race in America,” “Mirrors of Privilege” is a must-see for all people who are interested in justice, spiritual growth and community making. This film advances the argument that with transformative learning, a dialogue for learning, changing, healing, and undoing race-based oppression can begin. It features the experiences and stories of White women and men who are social justice advocates. They have worked to gain insight into what it means, as White people, to challenge notions of race, racism, culture and White identity development in the United States. Their shared reflections speak to the denial, defensiveness, guilt, fear and shame often related to these issues and show how these responses can be replaced with solid commitments towards racial justice. Featuring: Dr. Shakti Butler, World Trust founder and Creative Director. Rick Butler; John Scott; Shirley Gutierrez; Peter Shwartz; Stefan Dasho; World Trust (Organization) Film Participants include: Elizabeth Denevi, Jeb Middlebrook, Mary Riordan, Rick Broniec, Marguerite Parks, Peggy McIntosh, Janelle Peterson, Joe Fahey, Gillian Burlingham, Jennifer Juhler, Gary Howard, Tim Wise, Andrea Rabinowitz, Francie Kendall, Dianne Finnerty, Krista Alderson, Kim Irwin ; actors, Aisha Bilal, Judy Blumenfeld, Kumi Oya, Andrew Weed ; dancer, Amara Tabor-Smith. For More Information World Trust Attitudinal Healing Connection Cultures Connecting The People's Institute for Survival and Beyond Mixed Heritage Center Teaching Tolerance Articles & Books White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Backpack Colorblind: The Rise of Post-Racial Politics and the Retreat From Racial Equity Angry Black Bitch Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome:America's Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing Mirrors of Privilege: Making Whiteness Visible pt 1  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KYJl0PECv8   The post Mirrors of Privilege appeared first on KPFA.

KPFA - Womens Magazine
Womens Magazine – September 26, 2016

KPFA - Womens Magazine

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2016 8:58


Chivvis Moore discusses her memoir, First Tie Your Camel, Then Trust in God: An American Feminist in the Arab World. Moore spent 17 years living in Egypt, Syria and Palestine, and taught for nine years in the Institute of Women's Studies at Bir Zeit University in Palestine. CHIVVIS MOORE reads from First Tie Your Camel, Then Trust in God: An American Feminist in the Arab World Tuesday, September 27, 7 pm 360 42nd Street, Oakland Book sales benefit Middle East Children's Alliance And Sharon Sobotta catches up with two feminist scholars whose groundbreaking work changed our understanding of racial oppression and privilege: Shakti Butler, filmmaker and educator, whose latest film is Cracking the Code: The System of Racial Inequity, and Peggy McIntosh, author of the classic 1989 article, “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.” Learn about how you can support the Truth & Reclamation Pilgrimage and the Women's Boat to Gaza. The post Womens Magazine – September 26, 2016 appeared first on KPFA.

Joyful Courage -  A Conscious Parenting Podcast
Eps 52: Sarah MacLaughlin and I talk Race, Privilege and Parenting for a Better World

Joyful Courage - A Conscious Parenting Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2016 53:17


Join the Joyful CourageTribe in our community Facebook group - Live and Love with Joyful Courage.  Raising our children while growing ourselves... Welcome! My guest today is Sarah MacLaughlin, a compassion coach, child behavior decoder, parent educator, author, speaker, and warrior for kindness. Sounds like a busy woman, doesn't she? There is more! She is also the mother of an eight-year-old and is a licensed social worker in Maine. Sarah was a guest for Episode 30, when she discussed Setting Limits. I'm so excited to have her back to help us make sense out of some of the troubling current events in our country. How do we raise our kids to treat ALL people with dignity and respect in the midst of a predominantly white culture? How are we raising our kids to make a better world? Join us for this important and timely conversation. What you'll hear in this episode: The responsibility of parents today Stop talking and LISTEN! Making it all make sense to kids Implicit bias: What is it? Being rich vs. being wealthy Why we fear discomfort Our hierarchal society (it exists) Finding opportunities for diversity What's NORMAL? The anti-bias classroom Why we can't ignore US history Why being “colorblind” is NOT the answer Kids—they are ALWAYS watching! How to confront others and express your discomfort Is your home “whitewashed”? Resources: www.sarahmaclaughlin.com Use Sarah's name to find her on Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, and Instagram. Love First: Parenting to Reduce Racism, Sexism, Homophobia and Other Forms of Hate, by Sarah MacLaughlin Laying the Groundwork for Acceptance and Inclusion, by Sarah MacLaughlin Talking to my White Child About Race, by Sarah MacLaughlin  40 Ways to Raise a Nonracist Child, by Barbara Mathias EDITORIAL: What I Said When My White Friend Asked For My black Opinion on White Privilege, by Lori Lakin Hutcherson Thoughts From A Middle Class White Mama, by Casey O'Roarty White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh  Another Round podcast :::::::::: #JoyfulCourage10I would LOVE to have you check out the latest offer I have for parents - it is FREE and SUPER supportive!!  Just click here for more info and to register. :::::::::: Join the Joyful CourageTribe in our community Facebook group - Live and Love with Joyful Courage.  Raising our children while growing ourselves... :::::::::: Make sure to SUBSCRIBE to the Joyful Courage Podcast on iTunes to get the latest shows STRAIGHT to your device!!  AND PLEASE rate and review the Joyful Courage Parenting Podcast on iTunes to help me spread the show to an ever larger audience!! :::::::::::

The Black Daddy Podcast
Episode 11: "Uncle Tom" ( White Privilege , Me, and You)

The Black Daddy Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2016 14:16


In "White Privilege"  : Unpacking the invisibe knapsack Peggy McIntosh gives us a glimpse into the world through her eyes. In this episode we have a converstation about : Arranging to be in the company of people of my race most of the time. Why I am asked to speak for all the people of my racial group. The lack of my culture giving  me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races. and more: Referenced Essay : http://nationalseedproject.org/white-privilege-unpacking-the-invisible-knapsack Holla at us : http://www.twitter.com/blackdaddynow Email: hello@blackdaddypodcast.com      

Getting Ethics to Work
The “Burden” of Whiteness with Peggy McIntosh and Alison Bailey

Getting Ethics to Work

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2016 63:30


What role should white people play in fighting against racial injustice? We discuss this with legendary scholar Peggy McIntosh and philosopher Alison Bailey. The post The “Burden” of Whiteness with Peggy McIntosh and Alison Bailey appeared first on Prindle Institute.

Getting Ethics to Work
The “Burden” of Whiteness with Peggy McIntosh and Alison Bailey

Getting Ethics to Work

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2016 63:30


What role should white people play in fighting against racial injustice? We discuss this with legendary scholar Peggy McIntosh and philosopher Alison Bailey. The post The “Burden” of Whiteness with Peggy McIntosh and Alison Bailey appeared first on Prindle Institute.