Podcasts about invisible knapsack

Send us a Text Message.Some may think that "ism's" - sexism, racism, classism, ableism, ageism, nationalism, etc. don't have anything to do with injury and violence prevention (IVP). On the contrary - they have everything to do with IVP. In this episode, host Mighty Fine talks with Jessica Ritter (she/they), a Certified Nonprofit Professional who has been working to improve public health in Pennsylvania. She is the current Safe Kids Pennsylvania State Office Coordinator. Throughout her career, she has focused on violence prevention and diversity, equity, and inclusion.In their conversation, Jessica starts by sharing definitions and providing perspective on types of oppressions or "ism's" and then relating it to injury and violence prevention. Resources and actions are provided on how to educate, understand, and help advance equity. RESOURCES:White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh (1989)White Supremacy Culture Classism: Readings and Resources The Society Pages Contexts 

The disagreement over the concept of white privilege is at the center of many of our political and cultural struggles at the moment. On the Left, white privilege is a bedrock principle, a foundational assumption that motivates much of the discourse around race in America. On the Right, the concept is primarily an object of derision. It's dismissed, mocked and held up as the sign of the Left's moral confusion and obsession with identity politics.To work through this problem, we've brought together a Black conservative philosopher and a white anti-racist activist.Jason D. Hill is a professor of philosophy and the author of five books, including most recently What Do White Americans Owe Black People: Racial Justice in the Age of Post-Oppression. He holds a Ph.D. in philosophy and has been a professional writer and author for more than thirty years. Garrett Bucks is the founder of The Barnraisers Project, which is committed to organizing majority-white communities for racial and social justice. He is also the author of the popular Substack newsletter The White Pages, and recently released a memoir called The Right Kind of White. The QuestionsDoes white privilege exist?How does it interact with other forms of privilege, like class class and gender?Is it a useful concept politically and culturally? Show Notes3:09 - Defining white privilege6:22 - White working class critique12:44 - Black excellence15:04 - American individualism vs. communitarianism16:41 - Black immigrant experiences19:15 - On Robin DiAngelo22:58 - Left and Right class critiques of racial privilege25:11 - Intersectionality28:19 - White saviors33:02 - White guilt36:34 - Steelmanning Further ReadingJason Hill's letter to Ta-Nehisi CoatesCritique of Robin DiAngeloWhite Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh What did you think about this episode? Email us at podcast@thedisagreement.com. You can also DM us @thedisagreementhq

Throwback Thursday part 1! OK, it's been a while since we said that too… We are running back the “Racial Hierarchy” episodes for your .edu earphone pleasure. The acclaimed Dr. Liu joins us and breaks down white supremacy, how language changes to suit it, and how it's all systematized. This is a jam-packed episode; no notes can do it justice!We unmask how white supremacy and masculinity are inextricably linked, and how BIPOC men's identities and lives are policed through that lens. Get ready to hear how the construction of a complicit middle class allows for the superiority of whiteness. You get some important definitions this episode, including intersectionality and how it's changed over time, white supremacy, white privilege. What is hegemony, again? Dr. Liu covers it all.COMPANION PIECES:Relevant EpisodesBlack Masculinity, Mental Health, and Education#WAKANDAFOREVERWhite Supremacy to Google Said What?Referenced on this episode:White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by by Peggy McIntosh"Demarginalizing the Intersection of Race and Sex: A black Feminist Critique of Anti-discrimination Doctrine, Feminist Theory and Antiracist Politics" by Kimberlé Crenshaw

Is it possible to control AI? If so, how can we make it more ethical? Damien Williams, PhD, a philosopher of science, technology, and society, has some ideas. Annanda and Keisha chat Marvel movies, Ultron's bad manners, and what lessons machine learning could take from the world of plant medicine and harm reduction. SHOW NOTES NEW: Come talk to us on social media! We're at @moralrepairpodcast on Instagram and @MoralRepair on X (Twitter). You can also reach us by email: moralrepairpodcast at gmail dot com The Verge surveys Americans on who's using AI tools and what worries them (June 2023) A 2020 note in the Federal Register on how US border-crossing tech expanded and evolved: first for so-called “aliens” (non-citizens) and then to other categories of immigrant or citizen In 2010, Peggy McIntosh shared some notes on her classic “Invisible Knapsack” article (National Seed Project on Inclusive Curriculum) Ethicist Shannon Vallor speaks and writes on the AI Mirror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40UbpSoYN4k); her book with Oxford UP comes out May 2024. The Associated Press reports on concerns about generative AI producing disinfo during the 2024 election cycle (August 2023) Harry Frankfurt's On Bullshit (2004) A philosophy anthology where listeners can find the Aristotle essay Keisha and Damien mentioned and many other reflections on science, tech, and human values from the fields of technical communication and science, technology and society: Philosophy of Technology: The Technological Condition: An Anthology (2nd edition) Annanda's closing nod to Black poet, professor, and theorist Audre Lorde references a conference address Lorde later published in the collection, Sister Outsider: Essays and Speeches (Penguin, 1984/2020)

This episode is a special one to me, one dedicated to all of the Black and Brown moms out there. A lot of my Black and Brown friends who are stay-at-home moms in the thick of it with tiny kiddos have told me that they feel like they're not doing enough to contribute to the anti-racism movement. For my friends and anyone else in this community who reads that and thinks “that's me!” I have a message for you that I hope you hear loud and clear: Being a Black or Brown stay-at-home mother is an act of resistance, an act that is SO IMPORTANT to the movement. Please note that I am not putting down working moms down at all! I AM a working mom, and my mom was a working mom. I just don't think Black and Brown moms in particular don't hear enough that they are part of the movement and that what they are doing in their homes is such an important act toward justice and anti-racism. Press play on the episode to hear more about what I mean. It's one you're not going to want to miss!   Invite Jasmine to work with your school! Are you a parent or teacher who wants to help your school turn good intentions into positive action by making anti-racist education a priority? First Name Basis is here to help! Jasmine Bradshaw, the host and founder of the First Name Basis Podcast, is an anti-racist educator and former second-grade teacher who has a passion for helping schools make real change. Whether you're looking for a keynote speaker at your next PTA event, want to implement our Ally Elementary curriculum at your school, or need someone to consult with your school and provide teacher trainings, Jasmine is your go-to resource. Email hello@firstnamebasis.org for more information!   Check out our summer sale Ally Elementary Jr., Ally Elementary and Juneteenth Jubilee are all available RIGHT NOW! And to make that news even better, we're running a HUGE sale now through June 23! With Juneteenth right around the corner, you can get $25 off Juneteenth Jubilee to help you plan the perfect Juneteenth Dinner.  Or you can get $75 off Ally Elementary Jr. or Ally Elementary, and when you purchase either of those programs, you'll get Juneteenth Jubilee FOR FREE! No coupon code needed — the deal will automatically load itself into your cart. If you're interested in bringing anti-racist education into your home or classroom, now is the time to get them! Summer is a great time to start using these programs in your home or to prepare to use them in your classroom.  Head over to firstnamebasis.org/allyelementary to learn more or to get the programs!  Articles, Studies, & Podcasts Referenced in the Episode First Name Basis Podcast, Season 2, Episode 26: “My Working Mom: Chasing Her Dreams” First Name Basis Podcast, Season 2, Episode 14: “What Is Privilege And What Do I Do With It?” First Name Basis Podcast, Season 4, Episode 8: “Can We Talk About White Privilege?” “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Peggy McIntosh   Song Credit: “Sleeper” by Steve Adams” and “Dive Down” by VYEN

In this quick episode, you'll learn about the surprising origins of the term white privilege, how even the most well-meaning people get it wrong, and a new way to think about identity. What are you waiting for?Mentioned:We're Getting Privilege All Wrong on Apple & SpotifyA Teachable Moment for White Allies on Apple & SpotifyUnpacking the Invisible Knapsack, Peggy McIntoshTo support Marie and get exclusive resources, head to patreon.com/mariebeech. To learn more about Marie's DEI services, head to mariebeecham.com.

In this episode, we discuss the 10th United Nations Sustainable Development Goal: Reduced Inequalities. We highlight some practical ways individuals can contribute towards reducing inequality, including using purchasing power, educating oneself on privilege and bias, and volunteering with organizations that promote social justice. We also provide examples of companies and organizations that prioritize social and economic inclusion. Finally, we share some recommended resources for further education on these issues. Links from this episode: Article - ”White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Knapsack Peggy McIntosh Video - "How Studying Privilege Systems Can Strengthen Compassion"  Peggy McIntosh at TEDxTimberlaneSchools Podcast - Scene on Radio - This is probably my favorite podcast of all time, Season 2 being the best, but seasons 3-5 also being quite good and impactful. Don't forget to rate the show on your podcast player of choice as it helps the show get found. Also remember to share which challenge you're doing online with #1000WaysGreen. Links from the show can be found in the show notes. Looking to find out more ways to save the planet, learn more about the show/host or just looking for some 1000 Ways Green merch? Check out the Show Website for more great content. Would you like to help support the show and keep more episodes coming, feel free to support the show. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/1000waysgreen/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/1000waysgreen/support

Peggy McIntosh, author of White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, shares her experiences of white privilege and her fight for inclusion.

Privilege is something we all benefit from in some form or another.  While it is irrefutable, as soon as we try to cast a light on aspects of our privilege (eg. White privilege, able-bodied, heterosexual, etc.), people rail, scream and gaslight. Perhaps it is in our wiring to look at things as a zero-sum game, however, progress as a society is dependent on us recognizing that rising tides truly do raise all ships. Resources: Harvard Bias Test https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.htmlUnpacking the Invisible Knapsack https://psychology.umbc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2016/10/White-Privilege_McIntosh-1989.pdfSupport the showDon't forget to rate and leave a review! Questions? Comments? Curiosities? Reach out! Via Instagram: Ash @blackgirlmagicmamaMark @bushidoandbourbon Via Email: beyourownoutlier@gmail.com Interested in The Courage Campaign? Visit here: www.thecouragecampaign.com@the.courage.campaign

What does it practically mean to follow the peacemaking path of Jesus? In The Way of Peace, learn about the concept of a rule of life and discover flexible and achievable ways to walk this peacemaking path. __Rule #01 Choose love, forgiveness and inclusion: Daily choose to follow Jesus: walk the narrow path of loving mercy, doing justice, and living sacrificially.Rule #02 Listen to Wisdom: Daily listen to wisdom from Scripture, sacred writings and other sources to understand where peace is broken, and oppression is flourishingRule #03 Practice Mindfulness: Be attentive of the Divine Presence through unceasing prayerRule #04 Gather Together: Weekly join others to learn, celebrate and experience Divine LoveRule #05 Create Hope: Share faith while unselfishly giving and servingRule #06 Intentionally Rest: Receive divine grace and restoration through self-careWhat's the Issue Anyway?To be in someone's struggle is to be PROXIMATE.Proximity requires HUMILITY.Does my PRIVILEGE keep me from being PROXIMATE?      “True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar, it comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring.” –Martin Luther King, Jr.What Wisdom does Jesus offer us about Proximity and Humility?Jesus reiterates that we are to love GOD and love our NEIGHBOR! (John 10:27-28)Peter realized that God saw no BOUNDARIES. (Acts 10:28) We bring to the conversation some MISGUIDED beliefs. (John 10:29)The criteria for OUR LOVE is not race or religion—it is NEED. (John 10:30-35)The Way of Peace Rule #7Humbly Go: CROSS boundaries, LISTEN deeply and LOVE mercyHow can I live this in my everyday, normal life?ACKNOWLEDGE your privilege.Go where you are UNCOMFORTABLE.How does this make me a better person and the world a better place?I can choose to walk HUMBLY and be PROXIMATE.This will help bring PEACE and JUSTICE to the world.What is God inviting you into today?1.      Read the article “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Peggy McIntosh.2.     Make an invitation to coffee or a meal.3.     Get involved with Partners in Hope through your time, talent and treasure.Thought provoking questions:1.      Think about your race, gender, ethnicity, religion, primary language, ability, socioeconomic status, education level and sexual orientation. How do these specific aspects of your identity influence how you interact with others?2.     What are the stereotypes you hold of the “other?” Why do you think you have those stereotypes? Is there room for a different narrative and perspective?3.     Can you think of some other stories of Jesus modeling proximity and humility? With whom did he “break bread?”4.    What are examples in which you have experienced people authentically sharing pain with you? What is your natural tendency when someone comes to you in pain? Are you inclined to a) offer solutions; b) say, “God is good, it will be ok;” or c) simply listen and create space for suffering?5.     When you think about living a proximate life (whatever that might look like for you), what are the sacrifices that you would have to make? How do you feel about making those sacrifices?

What are you carrying in your invisible knapsack that you need to unpack? In today's episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Emily Roh, an antiracist coach and facilitator and the founder of My Invisible Knapsack. Emily's passion for social justice and equity is evident in the work she does, and she shares her journey to becoming an advocate for change. With her unique perspective and experiences, Emily offers valuable insights on how we can all work towards creating a more just and equitable world.  You'll hear us discussing ideas such as:  The meaning and origins of the “invisible knapsack”: Emily expands on the original concept: she says that we're all carrying an invisible knapsack, not just of privilege but also of trauma and disconnection from ourselves. Her coaching is about helping people unpack their knapsacks. Trauma in the workplace: trauma can show up in the workplace in a variety of ways. Emily explains that there are two types of trauma: "trauma with a big T" and "trauma with a little T," which refers to the everyday traumas that people of color experience from microaggressions. This can make you feel like you have to leave parts of yourself behind in order to fit in and be accepted.  White supremacy culture: white supremacy culture in the workplace can create a culture of pressure and trauma for people of color. We often feel the need to "be twice as good" in order to succeed. While discussing this topic is often uncomfortable, leaders need to critically understand how it is reinforced by systems and power structures, and that it is getting in the way of the work.    What organizations can do to support BIPOC leaders:  Leaders must do the self-work and sit with the discomfort  Creating diverse, equitable, and inclusive cultures starts with leadership - if you don't have leadership commitment, you're wasting time.  Lead from a place of vulnerability and transparency.  Healing is done in community: in order to heal from lifelong generational trauma, we must do it together.   What's possible when we truly commit to transforming our workplaces into spaces: antiracism work is hard work, but it leads to a more sustainable and fulfilling future for everyone.  Resources: Emily Roh | Website | LinkedIn | Instagram Peggy McIntosh | Invisible Knapsack Shawn Ginwright | The Four Pivots: Reimagining Justice, Reimagining Ourselves Tema Okun | White Supremacy Culture

In this episode, we rethink our entire understanding of privilege. I share some things that may surprise you. I explain that privilege isn't really about privilege, and I teach you how to elevate privilege from a passive reality to an active role.Your listen next list:Important Terms You Should Know (That Are Often Misused) on Apple & SpotifyAll The Stuff No One Ever Taught You About Dr. King on Apple & SpotifySources:White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntoshViews About White Privilege Split Sharply Along Racial and Partisan Lines by Pew Research CenterMy mentioned posts on privilege: Privilege isn't ammunition and Some people have a hard time recognizing privilegeTo support Marie and get exclusive resources, head to patreon.com/mariebeech. To learn more about Marie's DEI services, head to mariebeecham.com.

An interview with Erin Bassity, founder of the Turing Alumni Committee, Turing grad, and current Turing board member.  Reading Recommendations: White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh  Difference Matters by Brenda Allen  Turing Q2 2022 Jobs and Hiring Report 

Hayley Caddes is changing the world by destigmatizing mental health. She's the creator of Chill Pill, a mental health app for Gen Zers, that will launch later this year.In this episode, we talk about where I've been the past six months and how it's impacted my mental health as well as Hayley's mental health journey, how white supremacy affects the mental health industry, and why it's so damn hard to find a therapist that's right for you.RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODEWhite Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh: https://psychology.umbc.edu/files/2016/10/White-Privilege_McIntosh-1989.pdfWhy I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race By Reni Eddo-Lodge: https://www.amazon.com/Longer-Talking-White-People-About-ebook/dp/B06WWPX2YFParis Hilton Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOg0TY1jG3wCONNECT WITH US FURTHERChill Pill's Instagram (@chillpill_app): https://www.instagram.com/chillpill_app/Hayley's Instagram (@haylaycat): https://www.instagram.com/haylaycat/Chill Pill Website: https://chillpill.app/?utm_source=chillpill&utm_medium=instagram&utm_campaign=socialmediaShanell Peterson's Instagram (@shanellpetersonofficial): https://www.instagram.com/shanellpetersonofficial/Unpacking My Privilege's Instagram (@unpackingmyprivilegofficial): https://www.instagram.com/unpackingmyprivilegeofficial/

BOOM the divorce hits and we are left with questions and confusions…and Dave all over Instagram. Where does the community go from here? How are we moving on from the Hollises and deconstructing? In this episode we finish up the Hollis timeline and share some of the stories from YOU! The Hollis Hole Timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gKutvmr584GtuaGSQ6RFRbwzntKl6LpW7NQmWVH1LI0/edit?usp=sharing Austin Channing Brown Tweets to White Female Influencers: https://twitter.com/austinchanning/status/1253873583761305601 Ohavia Phillips Instagram Video to Influencers: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CA3RttpBISw/ Be There In Five Podcast: https://bethereinfive.com/podcast Savy's Video Interviewing Rachel Hollis's Former Employee: https://youtu.be/P1JdNdJ1SN4 Rachel's “Relatable” TikTok: https://youtube.com/shorts/-qkW4Tn8eeE Luvvie's Twitter Reaction to Rachel's TikTok: https://twitter.com/luvvie/status/1378547468024041472 Luvvie's Apology Tweets: https://twitter.com/Luvvie/status/1378766559041183746 Heather's First TikTok on Rachel: https://youtu.be/HvgOSuALhHU “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Peggy McIntosh: https://psychology.umbc.edu/files/2016/10/White-Privilege_McIntosh-1989.pdf Rachel's Last TikTok: https://youtu.be/Ld55W9pfFM8 Keya's World Attends Rachel's RISE Conference Virtually: https://youtu.be/gzuJ1wb_Ov8 Dave Hollis “Pancake” Instagram Live: https://youtu.be/eAVhXDlkInQ Former Fan Stories in Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/rt9680/calling_former_rh_fans/ Send our assistant Rachel an email with your thoughts and ideas for future episodes, rachel@relatableafpodcast.com. Thank you for listening and be sure to give us a review or share this with a friend! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/relatableafpodcast/support

What is ableism? In Episode four, we define ableism, discuss how ableism can impact everyone, including those not living with a disability, and identify ways leaders, managers and individuals can tackle ableism in the workplace.  Understanding ableism requires education and addressing it in the workplace requires intentional and inclusive action. Catarina Rivera, a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Consultant specializing in disability diversity, joins us to unpack ableism, which is hardly discussed.  Catarina also offers steps we can follow to address ableism in the workplace.  Our Hosts this Week:Juan Hernandez, Associatehttps://www.bakerdonelson.com/juan-hernandezNakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholderhttps://www.bakerdonelson.com/Nakimuli-Davis-PrimerRebecca Kent, Legal SecretarySpecial Guest Host:Catarina Rivera, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Consultanthttps://www.catarinarivera.com/ Resource Guide:For Phyllis M. May-Machunda's Paper, Exploring the Invisible Knapsack of Able-Bodied Privilegehttps://vetvoicenational.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/exploringinvisibleknapsack.pdfFor Catarina Rivera's Article, Addressing Ableism in the Workplacehttps://inclusively.com/news-and-resources/catarina-rivera-addressing-ableism-in-the-workplace

Welcome to Season Two of Diversity Ever After: A Baker Donelson D&I Podcast.  In this season, we will discuss “Privilege.”  The initial response of many when someone says privilege might be white privilege, but during this season we will explore various kinds of privileges.  We will uncover how many of us are likely benefitting from privilege by discussing how to recognize our own privilege.  We will also discuss how we can use our privilege to help those who do not benefit from the same privilege we might benefit from. In this first episode of season two, Brenda Gadd, Founder and President of Rethink Public Strategies, joins our hosts to define privilege, highlight various kinds of privilege, and discuss the history of privilege including the need to risk losing our privilege for the benefit of others. We invite you to stay in touch and in tuned with this season as we explore privilege throughout our episodes this season.We release a new episode every other Friday. Look for our next episode on Friday, December 3.Our Hosts this Week:Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder(https://www.bakerdonelson.com/Nakimuli-Davis-Primer)Mary Wu Tullis, Shareholder(https://www.bakerdonelson.com/mary-wu-tullis)Brian Fernandez, Associate (https://www.bakerdonelson.com/brian-w-fernandez)Special Guest Host:Brenda Gadd, Founder and President of Rethink Public Strategies(https://rethinkpublicstrategies.com/)Resource Guide:For a handout with definitions of privilege: https://uca.edu/training/files/2017/11/Privilege-What-Does-It-Mean-Handout.pdfFor Peggy McIntosh's Paper, White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack:https://psychology.umbc.edu/files/2016/10/White-Privilege_McIntosh-1989.pdf

Peggy McIntosh wrote Unpacking the Invisble Knapsack in 1989 and the affects of it are still being felt today. It is one of those essays that makes you wonder what ever happened to rigor and critical thinking. In this podcast, I take a look at the essay and give my opinion on what about it is right and what is wrong.

In this introductory episode Emma speaks in conversation with myself and Emily about our routes onto the doctorate in educational psychology training programme, where our keen interest in consultation in EP practice started, our vision for this podcast and our thoughts on some of the current issues and debates in the field of consultation.Resources/readings mentioned:Kennedy, E. K. & Lee, V. (2021). A distinctive helping relationship. In C. Arnold, D. Bartle, X. Eloquin & M. Fox (Eds.), Learning from the unconscious: Psychoanalytic approaches in educational psychology (pp 122-139). Karnac. ISBN 978-1913494230McIntosh, P. (1988). White Privilege and Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack. https://codeofgoodpractice.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Mcintosh-White-Privilege-Unpacking-the-Invisible-Knapsack.pdf

002 - Host Thomas Pierce is joined by longtime friend Tom King as they discuss their personal privilege and how systemic racism in the United States plays out in everyday life. The discussion is framed by the work of two anti-racism scholars, Dr. Peggy McIntosh and Dr. Robin DiAngelo. With plenty of comedic relief as the two laugh at the absurdity of white fragility, the two model what an honest conversation about race can look like. The second half of the episode broadens out into mental health and how men interact with each other as the pair identify some of the components that constitute toxic masculinity. The two model what a healthy relationship between two straight men can look like after years of friendship and honest conversations.Items Referenced: "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" and "Some Notes for Facilitators". © 1989 Dr. Peggy McIntosh  " White Fragility and the Rules of Engagement" -  Dr. Robin DiAngelo"Men and depression" - American Psychological Association 13th Amendment to the US ConstitutionFollow on Instagram here. All episodes here. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

01:55 - Corey’s Superpower: Empathy * Finding Voice: You Are Not a Statistic * What does it mean to support Black lives? * Authentic Self * Having Conversations Around Allyship * Owning Vulnerability 09:06 - Having People Hear Your Stories * “How are you doing?” * “Me Too” Movement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_Too_movement) – learned something about self and blind spots in the process and the feedback was helpful 13:01 - Allyship Best Practices * Growth Mindset * Trusted Sidekicks; Augmenting Journies * Invisible Knapsack: How to recognize your white privilege — and use it to fight inequality (https://www.ted.com/talks/peggy_mcintosh_how_to_recognize_your_white_privilege_and_use_it_to_fight_inequality/transcript?language=en) (Peggy McIntosh) 19:04 - Developing Empathy * Watch Hamilton! When it comes to leadership, Aaron Burr was right — “Talk less, smile more” (https://medium.com/@mkvolm/when-it-comes-to-leadership-aaron-burr-was-right-talk-less-smile-more-bf1e18dbac7a) (Being Able to Hear vs Being Able to Listen) * Deep Canvassing – How to talk someone out of bigotry: These scientists keep proving that reducing prejudice is possible. It’s just not easy. (https://www.vox.com/2020/1/29/21065620/broockman-kalla-deep-canvassing) * Google Assistant Research; Inclusive Design * Empathy Mapping (From UX Design) – Building For Everyone: Expand Your Market With Design Practices From Google's Product Inclusion Team (https://www.amazon.com/Building-Everyone-Practices-Googles-Inclusion/dp/1119646227) * Empathy Can Combat Mis/Disinformation * Fearing What We Don’t Understand: Nas - Hate Me Now ft. Puff Daddy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKSJN3WWR3E) (song) | Lyrics (https://www.google.com/search?q=nas+you+can+hate+me+now&oq=nas+you+can+hate+me+now&aqs=chrome..69i57j46j0l3j0i22i30.4277j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#wptab=s:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLRT9c3LDYwLalINit6xOjJLfDyxz1hKYdJa05eY7Ti4grOyC93zSvJLKkU0uFig7KUuASkUDRqMEjxcaGI8Oxi0ktJTUsszSmJL0lMsspOttLPLS3OTNYvSk3OL0rJzEuPT84pLS5JLbLKqSzKTC5exCqUkViSqpCbqpCXX64AEQQAMkDXN6IAAAA) * Active Processing (psychology) (https://study.com/academy/answer/what-is-active-processing-in-cognitive-psychology.html) 36:03 - Using Tech + Policy For Good * Educating & Empowering People Online * Company and Community Values * Pipeline Investment and Early Exposure * Diversifying the Tech Policy Space / Manifestos? * Algorithmic Justice League (https://www.ajl.org/) * Virility * Clubhouse Is Worth $1 Billion Off the Backs of Black Folks. Now What? (https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/clubhouse-is-worth-1-billion-off-the-backs-of-black-fo-1846190868) Reflections: Arty: Centering around empowerment + asking, “How ARE you?” with the intention of listening. Chanté: We can’t outsource empathy. Corey: How the model of technology has shifted away from interest-based to follower-based and influencing. This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Transcript: ARTY: Hi, everyone. Welcome to Episode 230 of Greater Than Code. I am Artemis Starr and I'm here with my fabulous co-host, Chanté Thurmond. CHANTÉ: Hey, everyone and I had the great pleasure of introducing our guest of honor today, Corey Ponder. Welcome, Corey. COREY: Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be here. CHANTÉ: We're so glad to have you. If you don't mind, I'd love to read your bio so everyone knows who you are. COREY: Sounds great. CHANTÉ: Corey has over 10 years of work experience, he has had several roles across two industries and has also served in community organizations and nonprofits. At the core of each of these experiences is a passionate commitment to building community and developing people and programs. Corey most recently worked at Google serving as a senior policy advisor focused on privacy, advising product teams on best practices and approaches to inspire user trust. He also owns and manages his own business, em|PACT Strategies, a consulting firm that helps organizations build inclusive communities by prioritizing empathy as a skillset. Corey serves on boards of InnovatorsBox, a firm focused on creativity, and Youth Speaks, a nonprofit focused on youth arts and education. Great background. Corey, did we forget anything else? COREY: Well, I have to just because I am a lifetime SEC, Southeastern Conference, person, that I have to shout out Vanderbilt University, where I went for undergrad and then also, because I'm in California, I have to shout out University of California, Berkeley, where I went for my Master's in public policy. So those two things I would add. CHANTÉ: Those are great institutions for education. So good. Let's start off with the first question that we give everyone and that is: what is your superpower and how did you acquire it? COREY: Yes. I love this question. It gives me a chance to really nerd out. So I would say the first thing that comes up for me is empathy. When I think about empathy, I think about how superheroes, oftentimes exhibit qualities around being empathetic that we might look at as healing abilities, or the ability to regenerate themselves, or regenerate others, the stamina, or the fortitude, last, or survive in a space where there's a lot of things attacking them mentally and emotionally and able to persevere in spite of all of that. So I would say empathy is definitely the superpower that I have. I think when I step into spaces, I'm always thinking about what can I do to make other people feel more welcome, or feel more authentically themselves, which I feel like is the healing part. I feel like the regeneration piece is often me putting myself into positions where I don't like conflict, or seek it out, but I definitely feel like I put myself into spaces where I'm like, I want to support you and it might come at some risk to me, but I think I can bounce back from this. And then the stamina piece. I mean, none of this work, showing up for others even is not just a one-time thing and so, the consistency piece, I think, is something that I've really over time become more comfortable with just knowing that things might be protracted. People might need you for long periods of time and I'm here for it. CHANTÉ: So you said a few things here that really, I think, demonstrate the skillset for somebody who is in the diversity, equity, and inclusion space and I will bet that you probably didn't see that 10 years ago, or whenever you started down this journey. So if you wouldn't mind, I'd love to know how you got to this space now and I'll also add in, before you answer that question, that a lot of folks, BIPOC folks like us, we know what it's like to be othered. We know what it's like to be excluded. So I know for myself, I'm in the DEI space, but I'm just really curious. I did peek at your background, but just for folks who haven't or who don't have those quick fingers right now, they just want to hear your background, walk us through how you got here. COREY: Yeah, absolutely. So there are two inflection points. The first is I am a Black man so there are moments that I think about as a part of my growth as a Black boy and feeling like I had to grow up very fast to be taken seriously in whatever space that I was interested in to see the world from a perspective of hey, you really have to make sure that you're showing up and representing the person that you want to be because people will quickly ascribe something to you. This was a conversation that was permeating all around me so that when I got to college, there was an inflection point. The first one where I remember I was like, “I want to be a biologist and I might also go to medical school.” When I took lab for the first time, it was a moment where I realized like, oh man, despite all of the things that I have done, all of the things that are within my control, I studied hard. I was getting great grades. I was just woefully unprepared for that space of even just being in a lab and doing a titration. I was like, “What the heck is a titration? What is an Erlenmeyer flask?” I realized that in a lot of ways it was because I didn't have access to the resources, or the conversations, or nobody had even told me that I could do those things. I wasn't seen as somebody that could do those things and so it's like, I didn't know what I didn't know and I think that I really started doubting in many ways from that moment who I could be, what I felt like I needed to thrive in the spaces, what I felt like I was capable of in these spaces. It took me throughout college—great relationships and friendships, but also investment and resources around me to really find that voice that said, “Hey, actually, here's your story,” You're not this other narrative, this person that can't do it and you're not a statistic in a sense of a Black man that is x as opposed to a successful Black man. That was the first inflection point for me. Then I think the second was just having been at this point, maybe like 6, or 7 years working. I was at a moment at Facebook actually, where there was an increased conversation around what does it mean to support Black lives? Why are people talking about Black Lives Matter? In particular, during 2015, 2016, I forget specifically when, but Philando Castile and Alton Sterling were two Black men who were killed by police officers in different instances, in different cities, in different places, but within the same week. It was one of the first times that from a technology perspective, we were discussing this in an international way because it had been captured on Facebook Live. So there was this conversation around who are we as a part of this broader conversation? It was the second inflection point because it reminded me that was man, I am a Black man so even as I've done all of these things, I've been in careers, I've had these jobs and these opportunities where I've done things that I can be proud of, I'm still walking into this space the next day, after hearing about these instances and really feeling like I'm carrying something that I don't know how to speak to. I don't know how – I've never really talked to anybody about how it impacts the way that I am showing up in this space. So from there, I just made the commitment where I said, “I'm going to start trying to be more authentically myself. I'm going to start talking about all the parts of me that make me who I am.” I didn't have a plan for it; I just knew that I wanted to have those conversations. The interesting thing was I started having those conversations and people naturally, after I would talk to people, would say, “Well, what's next? What can I do to support you?” It really just made me think about the broader conversation around allyship. There's a broader conversation around what does it actually mean to show up for somebody and then I realized retroactively that there have been many examples, not only in my life, that people who have shown up for me that now I can pinpoint and look at as case studies, as data points, but also that I have naturally gravitated to doing that because of what I said earlier about the superpower of empathy. It has been something that I had always valued, even if I didn't know what it was, or what I was doing, or what it meant, but it was really important for me to see other people's stories because I knew how important it was for people to see mine. So those two inflection points really shaped how I viewed diversity, equity, and inclusion in my role, in the broader conversation. One, my own vulnerability with myself, but also two, how valuable it is to have people hear your story and validate who you are and your experience and how it's a part of a whole and how they see you. CHANTÉ: Yeah. ARTY: With stories like you mentioned being able to have this experience where you really understood what it meant to show up for someone. COREY: Yeah, absolutely. I'll give two stories. One was actually when someone showed up for me and I remember it was my boss actually shortly after the conversations, or at least what I mentioned earlier about Philando Castile and Alton Sterling. I just was having a really rough, it was a rough day. I mean, I was trying to show up business as usual was very much like, well, I have a job, I have meetings I have to go, and my boss asked me, “How are you doing?” That's a question you hear maybe a hundred times a day and it's also a question that feels like a rhetorical. I mean, you're supposed to say, “Good,” and keep it moving. I said that, but she really stopped me, told me like, “Hey, I'm asking because I really want to know and I have time. How are you doing?” I think just in that simple moment of making the space, creating an avenue for me to actually express a real truth, it just made me feel like wow, you didn't have to listen to my story. You didn't have to consider that I was something more than this a meeting I had to go to, or that I was more than this deliverable, or this project that I was working on. And you did. That meeting was, I, even years later, still to think about it because it was just like, wow, that meeting didn't have to happen that way. But I felt like this wasn't just my burden to bear after that question, or that conversation. The question that she asked and the conversation that followed. I think for me, showing up for others actually has been in this work—working through impact strategies and thinking through how do you actually show up as an ally. I've had a number of experiences. But in particular, there was one right around the decree, I would say the resurfacing of the Me Too movement and that conversation around sexual harassment in the workplace. There was an event, or a town hall, or an opportunity where I had a chance to really show up. I initially—and this is also a part of the failures piece—showed up to that very equally with the best of intentions and said, “Hey, what can I do to move this conversation forward?” Along the way, I remember realizing that oh man, in all of my eagerness to show up to this, I actually have silenced, or not included the voices that were probably most important to actually have this conversation. Women in particular, but also just thinking about in general, people who are survivors, or have been a victim of assault. So it was one of those moments where I took on feedback from people, some of my coworkers, colleagues, friends, I figured out a way to revamp the event, postponed the event so that I could do it the right way. And then I remember in the aftermath of that, seeing I learned something through that process about myself and also, the feedback that I received about the event afterwards was like, all right, this was a conversation where it really prompted people to think about a story that they haven’t thought about before—people who showed up to the event. Because I was helping organize it, showed up, and got something else out of it because I wasn't the only voice in the room. It was another moment where it was like, wow, this isn't necessarily my story, but I leaned in a little bit, or leaned in a lot in the beginning, learned a lot in the process about myself and even where my blind spots were within that entire process of learning in some ways helped tell a story that other people realized like, oh, wow, thanks for helping me see this narrative. CHANTÉ: That is so helpful. I feel like the times where I've had to show up as an ally and lean in to something that I didn't necessarily understand, really helped me to better articulate the needs I had as a Black identified woman, or as a Latino woman to say, “Hey, friend or colleague, you want to show up and help me. This is how you can help me,” Because I've learned from my own ouch moments like, oops, I shouldn't have done that and thankfully, somebody was gracious enough to share feedback in that moment, but many times, they're not. Do you have any best practices in terms of folks who want to show up, especially right now in this year, as an ally, they're very well-intentioned, well-meaning people, but they don't necessarily have somebody like an insider to give them the lay of the land, or to tell them where the real pain points are? COREY: Yeah, absolutely. Two things. The first thing is that to your point about the feedback, I think feedback is so critical and also, we have to recognize that for many communities, like you said, we're in the intersect. We are at the intersection of a lot of identities. I recognize that even though I am underrepresented as a Black person in many spaces, I also am in a privileged position because I'm a man. So I'm having to constantly examine those different nuances and intersections of my identity. Yet that also helps me understand that there's a lot of emotional labor in just showing up to be Black every day so, then sometimes, I might not have the energy, or might not have the capacity to give that feedback to somebody who was looking to be on their journey as an ally. The first thing that I would say is showing up for others is really, there's got to be a hunger, or a desire to actually grow and change. This idea of a growth mindset and it has to be separate from passively taking on the information, or the stories of others. I think once you have that, really having said, “I want to do this and I am motivated to do it.” Then I think the second thing is to go back to the superpower question from earlier, is I like to think about showing up for others as a trusted sidekick. So this model of thinking about you're not showing up to save the day, because that's also a lot of labor. Expecting to be the person to in the movie on a high note and be the person that walks down the aisle to get an award, or reward is not really the goal. But what it really is about is really understanding the stories of the people that you're playing in the same universe with and then figuring out what ways you can augment their journey. I think about three things that are a part of that, which is really those everyday moments. When I've had conversations through my work, oftentimes people are like, “Black lives matter. We need to March,” or “Gender equity. We need to dismantle capitalism.” It’s like, that is probably true and there are scholars out there that are speaking more deeply than I can ever speak to on that, but what about those moments that are outside of that? So you might say that Black lives matter,” and you might have the t-shirt, or you might step up in a forum and say, “Hey, I'm declaring that I believe in this cause,” but are you then actually including your coworker who was Black in the team lunches that happen every day that y'all just get together organically, but somehow that person is never on the organic chain? Or if you're thinking about gender equity and pay discrimination, that is a big thing, but also, are you actually making space and not taking up the room when you're in a meeting everyday being the person that has to get the last word, or are you making sure that everybody's opinions are on the table, including your women colleagues, or female colleagues are heard in the room? I think these are the everyday moments where we can show up as an ally. I think the second piece is thinking about these things that we have to confront about ourselves. It might be ugly or scary, but are necessary. We all have biases. We all are a product of certain privileges because we have identities that confer some amount of power to us and some type of favoritism to us. So if we're thinking about that, we have to really examine that how those show up and affect us. Peggy McIntosh wrote Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, where she did a lot of research in this space, where the idea is that we carry this around and even if we don't acknowledge it, it's still there. This idea of it might be invisible to us, but you can imagine walking into a room with a big knapsack on not realizing that every time you turn left or right, you're hitting somebody with your privilege. So I think it's important to acknowledge that we have that backpack on whether we realize it, or not and it's affecting people whether we accept it, or not. And then the third thing is taking that next step of we have the positionality. So if you're talking about supporting from your identity, or from your perspective, you have some ability to influence change. Again, even if it's at a micro level. Because I'm a man, I have some privilege in the communities and spaces that I hold. Because of I’m a man, people are going to see me a certain way so then what I talk about what I represent, what I say, what I'm willing to advocate for is going to hold a different weight, whether that's right or wrong, it's going to hold a different weight than if a woman were to ask, or advocate for the same thing. So then what can I do to use that privilege in support of what that community might actually be asking for, or want? That might take a little discomfort on my part, but I guarantee it is way less uncomfortable than underrepresented groups having to advocate for their right to be seen, or heard, or validated in spaces. So those would be three things, I think you could do in that journey. CHANTÉ: Those are awesome things. The one that really resonates for me, too is just the empathy part because I feel like that is a core skill that we're going to need for the future of work. Oftentimes, when I say that people ask me, “Well, how do I develop empathy?” I have my own answer there, but I'd love to hear yours. How do you think people can get better at working on that empathy muscle and if you have anything that's worked for you personally, or that you recommend more professionally that you've seen in the workplace? That'd be helpful. COREY: Yeah, absolutely. Two things. The first thing that came up for me is Hamilton. I feel like everybody has seen it now. If you haven't seen it, spoiler alert, there's a theme that goes throughout Hamilton where Ehrenberg says, “Talk less, listen more.” There's this idea that I feel like with empathy, we often think of it as just like, ”I have to be in touch with my feelings,” but actually what I think it is, is actually a skill, a tangible skill of can I actually listen to someone and I think there's a difference between being able to hear and being able to listen. So I think the first thing that I have done is like, how can I actually actively listen more effectively to the people around me? There's actually this research, I think 2014, 2015, it was focused on can we use empathy? Like, actually measure the effect of empathy on reducing, in this case, anti-trans gender opinions? I think the research was called “Durably reducing transphobia,” but essentially, what they did was it was an exercise around active listening. They used the political tool called deep canvassing to essentially equip these researchers to go into a home where people expressed, or had been exposed to anti-transgender views and they literally just listened to them. They processed actively with this person about why they believe what they believe and then through that process, they didn't actually rebut with facts, or say, “But actually, that's not true,” or “Did you know that that's actually not true?” What actually happened was people realized through their own act of processing that you know what, this is not actually about transgender. It's actually about safety. I can relate now. I can empathize because now that I've come full circle and have been able to tell my story about why I'm processed out loud, I realized that I do have something in common with the transgender community. They want to feel safe. This law makes them feel unsafe. I want to feel safe in bathrooms, but those two things don't have to compete with each other. We're all people that want to be safe. That that research for me really sticks out whenever I think of active listening. I think the second thing is I've talked a couple of times about storytelling; there's a part of this for me, that really is seeing people as these amazing figures in a story you just haven't read yet. I think when I practice empathy, it often is just me really taking an interest more deeply in the why somebody does what they do as opposed to what they are doing. This hearkens back to Simon Sinek, who was a leadership consultant, or coach, but he had that phrase in a TED Talk where he said, “People don't buy what you do, they buy why you do it.” I think for me, that boils down to the core, how I think about if you want to cultivate empathy as a muscle, or a skill, it's really asking that question, “Why did they do that?” An actual tool that I often use in my work is something called empathy mapping, which is often used in UX design actually, in tech, to really think about human centered approaches to product design. But it lays out all of these ways about how do you think they would feel? How do you think they would see this? How do you think they would hear, or receive this message? And then it really gets you to ask this question about why would they react this way to what you're about to present, or why would they react to these set of circumstances in a certain way? CHANTÉ: One of the things that you're talking about here is the empathy mapping. I actually do this course, or this workshop with some collaborators around designing for inclusion and that is something that we really focus on. Have you seen that in practice well somewhere that you could illustrate, or show? I guess, we could provide an example, or a case study so folks know what you're talking about. COREY: Yeah. One of the things that this makes me think of is Google Assistant space, which is also a space that I spent some time in. But within the Google's Trust and Safety team, there was a focus on thinking about digital assistants and whether they had an inclusive voice when it came to gender, because there is a lot of research now that exists about voices and people perceive assistants to be female, but because of the voices. Companies are really doing a lot of that work now to think through what the implications are around that. But at the time, I remember in this work very early on, what I thought was interesting about this was just the steps that the Trust and Safety team went through to actually figure out if there was an issue here because you design a product, the product is meant to respond to queries. But soon, what they started finding was that maybe some of the queries that the digital assistant was getting were actually maybe more vulgar, or maybe more derogatory. So how does that break down? Does that break down like, is it just objectively that's how people talk to digital assistants? Well, no, and actually doing work and trying to reduce those offensive, or shocking, or risky experiences, what they found was that maybe this is actually offensive, or derogatory on the Google Assistant voices that present, or sound feminine. So now that we have done this research, how can we actually address that in the broader product? I think the Google Assistant then did things to try to make the voices more gender neutral, to provide more options so that there were a range of voices and then also, not necessarily default to the feminine voice, or not even call them feminine. I think they started calling them like Voice 1, Voice 2. So I think that that's one example of that I know, that I am aware of where when you're thinking about inclusion as it could be an objective truth that you're here to provide an answer to a problem. But often, that problem that you're solving might actually have many other subproblems within it. But the idea of inclusive design is important. It's an important lens for everybody to have honestly, on the product, because there are a range of things that might be happening that we're just not aware of. But certainly, the power of doing extensive UX research, or a deep dive on some of those things, I think is what helps augment and move us away from those types of snafus happening in our technologies. CHANTÉ: That was a beautiful example. Thank you. That sounds like a really cool project that you got to be a part of. Was there anything else that you learned from being on that project team that you can share? COREY: Yeah. Well, I should say, first off, this happened before I came into the team, but I think it was one of the things that I found very powerful about the team itself, doing the work and also, where they were centering people. I think that was one of the reasons why I've also been very interested in policy within tech, because it very much it's about centering and advocating for best practices for people and defining what users actually are. But I think for me, the lesson that I took from that just was again, that we all really have to be our advocates for this type of work and this type of change in the products and also, that a lot of this is sometimes not as complicated as we make it out to be. I think that it's really about priorities and what we value. What I appreciated about this team was just this idea of wow, you actually value not just the objective user, but the user in a sense of what context would they use this and how would this impact this community that we're trying to build this ecosystem? ARTY: So there's something you said earlier that really struck me when you were talking about this example with empathizing for these people that had been exposed to anti-transgender ideas and sitting down and listening. One thing that strikes me about that is just that as opposed to these people being a certain way, you framed things as these people were exposed to a certain kind of content that then they had this fear that came up in resonant to something that they were exposed to. I see those sorts of dynamics in other contexts. Would you mind elaborating a little more on that thought? COREY: Yeah. I definitely think that we are in – not that 2020, or certainly, the last 4 years since 2016 with President Trump, I don't think that that is unique. I think that it feels exacerbated because on top of that technology has been a lens through which we've seen almost an exponential growth in access to information. It may have outpaced the way in which we also keep up with the ways in which you are skeptically dissecting this information and analyzing it for truth and veracity. So I think that there's been a confluence of forces that have made it so that things like misinformation and disinformation are permeating and now, it is easily accessible. One of the things that I think about a lot in this space, as it relates to diversity, equity, and inclusion and why I think empathy is so important is that I feel like it can become very easy to go down this path because we're always looking for ways to validate our own experiences. So if there's one thing that we – an easy way to do it that is harmful, or damaging to others, is to validate by saying that, “Well, it can't be that over there.” I'm invalidating that to bolster the way that I see the world, or my experiences. What I really focus on from my work and why I think the empathy piece has been so powerful is that it's a reminder as we move through that cycle of how can you be more empathetic, that at the core of our human experience is this idea that we all do not like the feeling of being othered, or unseen. Even if for someone who feels like they are, whether you agree or disagree with this idea, I'm disaffected. I think this election cycle is a great example. A lot of people felt disaffected on both sides like, you're white middle-class, or you're Black and in poverty, or you're white and in poverty. You have all these sects of people that are like, “Ah, nobody's listening to me,” and that's reinforced because you're like, “Nobody has the experience that I have and nobody knows what it's like to feel othered like this.” But actually, the reality is, regardless of whether you understand what it means to be grow up white and poor, or Black and affluent, or Black and poor, or white and affluent, you all have this common experience where you have been othered at some point. Empathy says at the core of that human experience is something we all should be able to understand. So we're not necessarily focusing on what you went through so much as why did you have to go through it? I think that this disinformation, this misinformation feeds the – If we had more empathy, I think that would be the thing that would combat this because it would allow us to ask the right questions around maybe this is true, maybe this is not true. If I don't have the tools to actually assess whether it's true or real, what I can say is that I need to really think about the community that is centered in this story and understand how this would make them feel if this were true, how does it make them feel if this were not true. I think that that's where empathy and developing that as a skill could do a lot more work in this space where we're probably only going to see more honestly, content, or information where we have to vet where it comes from, whether it's real, who’s saying it and why they're saying it. ARTY: Yeah. I was thinking about how powerful it is just that even in listening to this context, as opposed to trying to correct it, what you did find was this commonality of, “Oh, we both have a desire to feel safe, it is part of the human experience,” and then with this disinformation, you've got this dynamic that really plays on fear. A lot of this information that's associated with fear reminds me of this TED Talk by Daryl Davis that I think Chanté, you're the one who actually had me listen to that. But specifically, that ignorance breeds fear breeds hate and then if we can go about empathizing and listening and building those connections and tackling the ignorance, that it can have a chain reaction effect on all of these other things. COREY: Yeah. This has made me randomly think of a song lyric by Nas, street prophet that he is, but his song with Puff Daddy, or P. Diddy, or whoever he was calling himself at the time called Hate Me Now. He said that line: people “fear what they don't understand, hate what they can't conquer. I guess, that's just a theory of man.” I was like, ah, this is making me think about that because I think so often, we are pushed into those lanes where the idea is to think that you have to conquer something. So it's like your safety, your capacity to do what you want to do in this world is won by subjugating, or by conquering something else, someone else and that's the only way that it can happen. And then also that fear piece; if I don't understand it, then it's not safe. So if I can't wrap my head around it, then I need to assume the worst and fear it. I think why empathy has been so powerful for me is one, because we don't often talk about it as something that we can actually cultivate. We often talk about it in a you either have it, or you don't, or it's a natural gift, or it isn't. I think it actually is something that can be cultivated and brought to bear, like in that research, where it’s like this was a community. I think the first time I did it, it was in South Florida, or maybe somewhere outside of Miami. I'm not actually sure of the specific locale, but this community had been subjected to all sorts of messaging around the transgender community, because it was meant to drive a particular position, or opinion on a bill around bathrooms and whether bathrooms could be used by people of the multiple genders, or you had to have separate men and women bathrooms. They were able to do through this research, they were able to find that not only were they able to shift people's perception around those issues—actually shift them positively in the direction of saying like, “Oh, actually I do support transgender rights in this conversation.” But that it was a statistically significant shift and it lasted for three months after that conversation when they did a check-in. So I think that it just really speaks to we don't have to fear what we don't understand. If you really just take the time to let people really work out their own narrative for themselves, they will often figure out that their own narratives are incongruent with how they actually are showing up in the space and it's not about telling them, “Your narrative is off,” like, “You're wrong.” I think that there's value in that, but if you're going to make the real change over time, in psychology, they call it act of processing. There's value in actually getting people to their own whatever it is, whatever reason they have for fearing what they don't understand to process that out loud in a way where they can actually be like, “I was heard and are realized that hearing myself is incongruent with how I actually like what I actually value.” So maybe coming to my own conclusions, I don't have to fear this, even though I don't understand all the parts of that experience CHANTÉ: That was really helpful, Corey and one of the thought bubbles—well, one of the many that popped up as you were responding to Arty's question was how do we then, because it sounds like there's a lot of value in anticipating, or using tech and policy for good in those moments. I'm just wondering, I know that you consult around this. So maybe take us down that avenue, because I think we're at this place where we've seen coming off of this last election, the power of the misinformation strategies and how we've partnered that with let's say, the Cambridge Analytica situation where they used data to underpin those fears and then really influenced a community, or a country to the space that they wanted them to be. How do we get ahead of that? What are some things we can do? Or what are some things maybe you're working on that are worth mentioning here today? COREY: Yeah. So those are very, very good questions, or good thoughts. I think that one thing that just thinking about even as you were saying with Cambridge Analytica, my first thought was just that we have existed in the technological space, in this information age where empowering people online, I feel like it has been separate from the using the data, or giving the data up in a way that, or using the data or giving the data up. By that I mean, essentially, we're using these products and tools, wouldn't have never really thought about it as a platform for change, or a platform to see the world we want to sees except for these little blips, or these moments where there are revolutions around like Arab Spring. That was driven, I believe on Facebook and then conversations again, around Black Lives Matter because of live video that we now have, we're able to capture the experiences in real time. So I think that the first thing that I would say is how can we actually educate people around being empowered online? You have a voice, but it's not just the voice to repeat what you have heard, but really to lend your own voice, your own vulnerability, your own story to what's happening in these forms. I think the second thing really is it comes down to the companies. I think that a lot of my conversations, when it comes to disinformation and misinformation, really comes back to values. Many companies, particularly ones that are community-focused and saying that our users are a part of an ecosystem, have to really ask themselves about what ecosystem are you actually trying to build? Because at a certain point, particularly if you are a private company, there are good ecosystems and there are destructive ecosystems. So it can't be a libertarian view of the technology is just a tool and it will all sort itself out. It actually has to be maybe more curated than that and that might not have been the initial approach of technology. Certainly, wasn't the approach to the world wide web either when it first started out. It was just like, anybody could create a geo site, anybody could do anything on the internet, but in some ways, I think that view of technology maybe has to change. It helps lends itself very well to innovation, but the challenge is that it creates a lot of loopholes for abuse. So then I think companies, as they start curating their experiences more, it has to be centered on very clear community values. What is your ideal world and your ideal state that you want to be contributing to as a part of this broader conversation around information and sharing data for the benefit of others? Most of these companies have that in their mission somewhere. They believe that they're doing a public good, even if they're also profiting in the process. Well, if that's true, then what values get you there and keep you there? So I think that that's how the disinformation and misinformation is allowed to persist, because there's just questions that you have to ask around are some things allowable within this ecosystem? Are we willing to take a hard line on some things for the benefit of the greater good? Then it’s also acknowledging that it is hard being in technology and now it's like, even if you're 99% effective at something, if you have a billion users, that's still millions of people, or millions of cases. You have to then also acknowledge that you're always working and it never will be good enough, but you can try to close that gap and be consistent on what you actually value and believe and that at least shows a bit of sincerity over time around what you're trying to do. CHANTÉ: I appreciate your take on that. One thing I might imagine to be true, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think from what I've seen is that the tech policy space is not Black enough. It is not; I don't see enough BIPOC folks. I don't see people really, outside of cis able-bodied white guys in that space. Is there anything that you recommend in terms of trying to change that so that in the future where we're going to have, for sure, undoubtedly more mixed-race people, just given the trends that we're on, how do we address that, or how do we curate for that? COREY: Yeah. I mean, so much of – it reminds me of the story I was telling about biology and going into lab is that I think so much of it is about really understanding the possibilities of what is actually out there and having someone tell you, or exposing you to what those possibilities are. Some of that is pipeline development. So I think we're many of these companies and also, just not even tech companies, but policy in general. This base is about how do you invest back in these communities, knowing that it might pay dividends in 10, or 15 years down the road to have this more diverse ecosystem of policy people, or practitioners, or technologists. Even if you're not developing them particularly for a job today, but down the road. I mean, I think some of that is pipeline investment and actually just telling people at a young age, “I see you, here's the three things you need to get started,” and then the sky's the limit. I know there are some programs around coding that have taken off where people go into the community and do that. It will be interesting to see how, if we were to look over time, whether that's really changing the overall dynamics of actual Black engineers, or BIPOC engineers, or a diverse representation of engineers. But I think that that would be the same for policy and the other thing that I would say is it would seem that many companies, in the tech space in particular, did not actually have – whether they should have, or shouldn’t have, they didn't necessarily have to focus on these types of questions for their growth and success in the early stages. So I think that that also meant that there just wasn't an investment in the broader, we need a policy team. Maybe there were people there to focus on policy and ask these questions. But I think as we continue to see the growth and the impact of companies on just everything like our economic systems, the way we behave, and the way we think about different issues. Now, it is really important to think not just about whether building this product is going to net an additional 100,000 users, at the expense of so many other things, will it affect the political conversation happening in this country? Will it affect the access to resources in this place? Now we're seeing the investment in those communities and spaces, for companies that are growing, or building now, I think it's about really investing in there early and make sure you have the right team and the right representation of the team to address the issues that you could foresee being a challenge, or being a space that your product will exist in. But I think policy is certainly one of many professional spaces where you do see underrepresentation really because of access, or knowledge about the opportunity. I'll just say, because this is a long, long way of saying, but I want to end with a personal story where it's just even for myself going into the technology space, I was always interested in policy, but really from the lens of how you can go directly into government as a civil servant and I try to push the machine, or move through the bureaucracy to actually make effective rules, or regulations that mattered, or meant something to different communities and I think government can still be that thing. There's a lot of challenges there, but it still can be that force. What I didn't realize was that this existed in the tech world, that these were conversations that were happening, that companies were having an influence on the way we legislate, or the way we behave, or the way we think about all sorts of issues that would “fit squarely” in the policy world. It was only through my kind of exploration, but also, connecting with people who had gone over to these companies, in these spaces and the privilege that I had of being able to go to different institutions, where I had access to people who could have these conversations with me, where I realized hey, I could be in this space. But it was something that I didn't even realize was a thing and would never have explored, otherwise. So I think that that also for me, recognizing that I had access to resources and tools that helped me even see it as a possibility and so, I think that has to be the thing that we're in the companies that anybody who has the privilege, or capacity to do so should be investing in. CHANTÉ: Yeah. ARTY: I feel like there's some things that we could do in terms of new precedent setting, that we could do as a broader tech community, that could help drive change of adopting cultural practices within the context of organizations and everything that flows from there. So one of the key threads you brought up was that it comes down to values and we ought to start with having a clear set of things that we want to value as a community and build as organizations and build around that. I started thinking back to you mentioned early days of the internet when anybody could do anything and spin stuff up on the internet and I think about some of the early tech interfaces and stuff we had and I feel like there was a lot more community and curation type things, too. We had message boards and I think about AOL days where you have little chatrooms that you join and stuff that were topic-focused. It seems like, as opposed to being these topic-focused finding each other kind of things by having similar shared interests, we've shifted to this follower type model where it's just about networking and connecting with the people and not necessarily being connected for any other purpose other than getting the most followers. So the purpose becomes the network and then the identity stuff is associated with how many followers you have and how many retweets you get. The dynamics of how we've framed identity dynamics and communication dynamics in tech has shifted quite dramatically. Tech has shifted the internet and then the people seem to have kind of shifted a mirror of the technology that we built. So I'm thinking if we take a step back and start with what you're saying in terms of community values and what a reflection of that would look like technology wise, but what if we started with a manifesto and some vision, even if it's rough vision, of what that might look like? Do you have any thoughts on, if you were to write some of those things down, what you would say? COREY: Yeah. This is making me – and I don't know them off the top of my head, but it's making me think of some of the AI ethics work, artificial intelligence work that several people are working on right now. I think of Dr. Ruha Benjamin, it was Dr. Tim McGraw, I think of a few other contemporaries of them, but there's actually, I think an Algorithmic Justice League where they are actually thinking of that. There's a manifesto of sorts, or a thing that we should be believing and that underpins the ethics that we should have as it relates to that technology. If I were to think of just a couple of things, the first would really be around the empowerment piece and I think I mentioned that before that we're promoting people to feel not just that they can speak, or be on a platform, or they can have access, but that they are empowered with the information, which in my mind, when I say empowered means that they can actually, it's a call to action. They believe that they can do more of the thing that they want to do. I think that is important because then it helps you actually center, it makes you actually have to question all of the communities that are on the platform and what you want them to actually be able to be called to do. Right now, not saying empowerment means that I feel like you're removed from the actual impact of what you are allowing to be shared, or allowing to be set on the platform. I think the second is while there are a lot of companies that would say they do this; it is important to call out safety and authenticity as maybe two and three. The idea is to really root in vulnerability, the idea is really to root in this idea of safety, psychological safety, but also physical, depending on whatever the product is. Because again, I think that those two things require you to then center the user and actually really think about well, what does it mean to actually build a safe community where most of all people feel safe psychologically and while also being their truest selves. Those were the three values, or the three areas where I feel like you would shape some type of principles around, but I also just want to say, I love your point because I do think that in some ways, the way in which we consume technology, or consume information now has really centered on this viral nature. I think in some ways, virality motivates the way that information is even propagated. Whereas before, when you're talking about these interests, it may have really been just genuinely about the interest and then it coalesced around that chatroom. But now virality, because that is the name of the game in so many ways, it almost requires people who have figured out the model of how to make things viral as opposed to people who have figured out something to say that is substantive, or something to say that is empowering to our broader community. Those two things are not always overlapping and so, you have people who will influence and then systems that might reinforce that influence when the influence is not necessarily earned on the merits of actually being empowering, or safe, or authentic dialogue. So I think you're absolutely spot on that like, the way that we consume has shifted to maybe wanting things to be viral and virality being almost the barometer of truth and value when that's not always the case. CHANTÉ: It makes me think that perhaps we've been focusing so much on the tech and the product space, that nobody is—I shouldn't say nobody—but we probably haven't focused enough on the actual consumer and making sure that we stand up resources, or a hub to inform them and make them smarter consumers. Because as we know, every click leads to a dollar, or every like leads to something. So I think we reinforce the system unknowingly. COREY: Yeah. CHANTÉ: I often feel this sort of pull, I don't know about you, but I've been watching versus on Instagram. Are you familiar with versus? COREY: Yes, yes. There have been some good ones. There also have been some duds, but yes. CHANTÉ: Duds, I know. Don't get me started, but #BlackTwitter, right? I'm like, “Oh wow.” So where I was getting excited and I was online early for the pandemic, but there was this part of me that just couldn't. I didn't want to get too attached, or too into it because I was like, “Man, look, we're on somebody else's platform making them money.” I know that there's some stuff being done to shift that and I see this a lot with the Black culture specifically, I feel like sometimes we're online and we're making this tech space, or this product really dope and nobody's there to protect us as consumers. I get really upset about that and I just want so badly to make sure that the consumers are educated, that they are informed and understanding how they should, or shouldn't be using their social capital. How they should, or shouldn't be supporting something that probably doesn't always have their best interests at heart. I don't know, it's not like there's one or two of us who have to be responsible, there's a whole – it's everyone's job. Do you of any collectives, or projects, or are you a part of anything that is aiming to do that? COREY: Yeah. Again, a really, really good point. That really resonates because, I'll just say before I answer the question, I've had that conversation around memes because I feel like memes are such a way that we communicate now as a part of popular culture, but I don't have the tools necessary to trace the lineage of the first meme, but I would bet again, going back to the virality of means that there was something that was also infused with Black youth culture in America that made memes popular and then made them more ubiquitous. So this idea of making technology cool is because there is a culture that is infused in again, making it cool. It's a tool that then you have a community, it feels empowered to do something a certain way, but then that empowerment is not protected. I would say that just in my experience in tech, I have seen companies that have made investments in this conversation on equity and well-being where really, the goal is to how do you work more closely with and partner with creators? How do you work more closely with users of the platform, either through research, or actually through direct partnerships to understand how the tool is actually being used and what are ways that actually supplement the way in which they are using it today? I know in the very, very beginning stages of Twitter, that was one reason why Twitter took off was because Twitter was just – I think it might've started, was it a 100 characters? I don't even know now is way more, maybe it started with the 140 characters, but other than just being that platform tweet 140 characters, everything else was community generated RTs, the idea of having a retweet button, these different features very early on were all things that had organically risen out from the community and they just listened. So I think in many ways, it was cool to see our product at that early stage just say we've created a tool where they were just going to see how people use it and then build on top of that. I think that that work's still happening. Companies should continue to invest in it, of course, but really listening to your creators and rather than saying, “Here's what we need you to fit, we are going to start doing that,” doing more of learning how you're using it is either about talking to you directly, or analyzing or examining it and really understanding what will matter to you and now we're augmenting that with this feature that we have listened to you and heard that you need. And then on the reverse side, proactively thinking about these are the issues that people are citing that they have, then make them feel unsafe, make them feel like they can actually have a voice on this platform and we are listening to that and we are actively going address that even if it's not going to necessarily net us an additional dollar spent, or an additional user earn. This is important because this is preventing you from using a platform to the fullest. So I've seen some things since I have been in the space, I think much of it is going to have to be a continued investment. I can't think of any one product, or any one area where I feel like it's like really landed. But I also think that that speaks to the broader point, which is that it's a journey and then as you continue to grow as companies, you're going to have more challenges. But also, I see opportunities because you're bringing more communities and more people onto the platform and as you scale, that has to be a part of the conversation. It's not just going to be a monolith, or one trigger response to a collective user, but actually many different types of users on your platform. CHANTÉ: No doubt. I’m trying to remember when it was specifically, it was probably three, four weeks ago when there was all this big announcement about Clubhouse, for example, going and people specifically felt some kind of way because here you had a situation where there was a bunch of Black users who were early on joining and you even had a Black man who was the representative of the icon and people were like, “Wait a minute. We're not being involved in this whole opportunity for more funding and what does that mean for us?” I listened in that week to a bunch of conversations and folks were incensed; they felt left out, they felt overlooked, taken advantage of. I think we've seen some action spur out of that, but it just reminded me of that moment that we have a lot of power collectively as a community. But you have to have times and spaces where people can organize and communicate that are not dependent upon somebody else's online community that looks free, but maybe it's not and my feeling is that it has to be a multi-stakeholder groups that are holding these technology companies and even the investor community accountable, but also at the same time, there's got to be people who are thinking about just consumer education and consumer engagement period, because we're only going to see more of this, not less of it. COREY: Yes, on multiple points. Having worked in privacy for some time as well doing policy work, that is something that comes up continually is that even as you build out more mechanisms to keep people's data safe, or you're like, “Hey, we actually are committed to the cause and this is all the work that we're going to do to protect your data,” the number of choices become unwieldy if you don't also have an education around all the things that a company can do with your data. So then it almost feels insincere if all of these things are offered without the education, or the continual reinforcement in different ways throughout their product, or their company's values. And then your point about Clubhouse. Actually, I remember reading that and I agree. Again, it really speaks to what I was saying about the meme piece where it’s like there is something that becomes really, really cool and it helps the technology take off and then it suddenly comes ubiquitous in this different way and it's like, “Whoa, wow, did we really think about the core experience?” How the course readings was shaped by a smaller community, but a very important one. But then the other thing I think about with Clubhouse, but I think a lot of apps are guilty of this in the US is, also just from a tech equity perspective, leaning into the iPhone development space in and of itself often, I feel like creates its own barriers around elitism and privilege. Not because iPhone, or Apple is uniquely trying to say, “Here's our image and here's who the customers are that we have.” But actually, that just even being on Clubhouse in and of itself, or iPhone only products often leave out an entire demographic of people when you think even in the US, I think 50 something percent of people are still are Android users and then you think globally, Android actually has a ridiculous market share of way more than Apple globally. So I was just what you're also thinking about the equity perspective and inclusion, I often think about that as well. Even at the outset, you're already narrowing the lens a little bit, and I get some of that as developmental challenges, but given all the success—I remember reading this article about Clubhouse and what they're worth, I'm like, “Wow, it's all of that.” It would seem like for me, the next step would be now invest in the development of an Android app in order to really see us reach that community, a broader community of which some of the people who help shape the core experience are representative sample of, but we could probably get so much more from this broader community. CHANTÉ: Yes like, I wish I had a lot of snap effects going right now. I agree with that, obviously. So thank you. ARTY: We're getting to the end of the show where we finish up with reflections. So the thing that—I mean, there's so many things in the show—I've been thinking about this idea of what it means to center around core values and community and what type of communities we want to build and everything that follows from those core values and especially this idea of centering around empowerment. I feel like that makes a lot of sense: centering around empowerment. If our goal in building these spaces is to empower people, then what are all the systems and policies and things that follow with that goal of empowerment in mind, how do we raise and lift up people, and create supportive spaces that do that? I think back to one of the things you said at the beginning around authenticity and the ability to, or this conversation that you had, where I think it was your manager, Corey, that asked you, “How are you?” which is normally this plain old question that you just reply with, “Oh, good.” There's an expectation that it's almost rhetorical like, we're just moving on and touching base and not really saying anything of substance. But there's something fundamentally different there with, “No, how are you?” and it's not about the words you're saying, it's about the intention to actually listen. The intention of giving someone the space to let their guard down, to be their authentic self, to tell you what's real. With this goal of empowerment, I feel like that's another aspect that's really important is being able to create spaces where we can drop our guard and be real. We can say what's really going on. In order to learn, we’ve got to be able to be ourselves, too and I feel like there's a lesson in the small in that of something that we can all make an effort to do when we interact with people to really ask them, “How are you really doing? What's really going on?” As opposed to trying to fix it, to change anything, to just listen, to really listen to what's going on with them, to finding those commonalities of, “Oh, I guess we all just want to be safe.” Seeing those things that are the same, as opposed to trying to fix, or change someone else, just focusing on listening and hearing where they're coming from. I feel like if we move toward those combination of things with that intention, with that goal in mind, with that being our why, that how we design the technology, how we design the policies that follow from that will help move us in the right direction. CHANTÉ: For me, I'm thinking a lot about this empathy piece, because it makes me pause and say, “While I prioritize it, I value it,” I just don't know how many hiring managers out there are actually looking for and building empathy into one of their core values that they're prioritizing on their hiring rubric. But as we move to this next fourth industrial revolution where we're automating and people are losing their jobs, we can't outsource empathy. So it's something that we definitely need to make sure we are working on individually and if you have children, I hope that people are thinking about ways that they can cultivate that early in young and teachers and educators, and especially folks who want to be a founder, or they want to be an investor. I think this is something that takes a community effort and I want to hear more people talking about empathy.

This is a quick clip where we want to clarify our identities and place in making this podcast. We distinguish that we are not members of the fat community and expand on the meaning of thin privilege. If you're a new listener this is a great place to start!  Acknowledgments Theme music: Gardener by Evenings Privilege list pulled from: Skinny Privilege:Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack

A Conversation Between African-American Author, Mark Winkler, and Dr. John Schinnerer This episode is an attempt to provide a way forward through the increasingly divisive topics of racism, white privilege, conscious and unconscious biases, how to identify them and how to address them. This episode is an effort to invite white people to come alongside black people; to increase their knowledge around racism; and to seek ways to take positive actions to support racial equality. It also an attempt to extend an open hand in support of people of color. The Evolved Caveman is committed to anti-racism. This is an attempt to join with Black people and other people of color. Now is the time when we anti-racist white people need to commit to having intentional conversations with the people in our lives and on social media who might be conflicted about the protests because of the narratives of violence and looting outlined by those with other agendas. We need to start these uncomfortable, yet critical, conversations. Below are resources to begin your education… Articles to read:
 Ella Baker and the Black Freedom Movement (Mentoring a New Generation of Activists
 My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant' by Jose Antonio Vargas | NYT Mag (June 22, 2011)
 The 1619 Project (all the articles) | The New York Times Magazine
 The Combahee River Collective Statement
 The Intersectionality Wars' by Jane Coaston | Vox (May 28, 2019)
 White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack' by Knapsack Peggy McIntosh
 Who Gets to Be Afraid in America?' by Dr. Ibram X. Kendi | Atlantic (May 12, 2020)
 Podcasts to check out: 1619 (New York Times)
 About Race
 Momentum: A Race Forward Podcast
 Pod For The Cause (from The Leadership Conference on Civil & Human Rights)
 Seeing White
 Books to read: 
 How To Be An Antiracist by Dr. Ibram X. Kendi
 I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
 Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson
 Me and White Supremacy by Layla F. Saad
 Raising Our Hands by Jenna Arnold
 Redefining Realness by Janet Mock 
 Sister Outsider by Audre Lorde
 So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo
 The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness 
by Michelle Alexander
 The Next American Revolution: Sustainable Activism for the Twenty-First Century by Grace Lee Boggs
 The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson
 When Affirmative Action Was White: An Untold History of Racial Inequality in Twentieth-Century America by Ira Katznelson
 White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism by Robin DiAngelo, PhD
 Films and TV series to watch: 13th (Ava DuVernay) Netflix
 American Son (Kenny Leon) Netflix
 Clemency (Chinonye Chukwu) Available to rent
 Dear White People (Justin Simien) Netflix
 Fruitvale Station (Ryan Coogler) Available to rent
 If Beale Street Could Talk (Barry Jenkins) Hulu
 Just Mercy (Destin Daniel Cretton) Available to rent
 King In The Wilderness HBO
 See You Yesterday (Stefon Bristol) Netflix
 Selma (Ava DuVernay) Available to rent
 The Hate U Give (George Tillman Jr.) Hulu with Cinemax
 When They See Us (Ava DuVernay) Netflix
 Organizations to follow on social media: Antiracism Center: Twitter
 Audre Lorde Project: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 
 Black Women's Blueprint: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
 Color Of Change: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
 Colorlines: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
 The Conscious Kid: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
 Equal Justice Initiative (EJI): Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
 Families Belong Together: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
 The Leadership Conference on Civil & Human Rights: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
 NAACP: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
 National Domestic Workers Alliance: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
 RAICES: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 
 Showing Up for Racial Justice (SURJ): Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
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In the first of what will be an ongoing topic for Sacred Intersections, Jill and Paula discuss some ways the Church has contributed to systemic racism and the need for white Christians to acknowledge this harm. We also discuss ways white Christians can and should be taking on the work of racial reconciliation. Check out our website where we will publish a list of resources and links on the topic of race and racism: https://www.sacredintersectionspodcast.com/ Link to White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh Link to Sojourners Article on the decision of Southern Baptist Seminaries Be sure to follow us on social media to share your thoughts and keep up with new episodes: https://www.instagram.com/sacredintersectionspodcast/ https://www.facebook.com/sacredintersectionspodcast https://twitter.com/sacredpod Aaaaaand....We have MERCH! http://tee.pub/lic/sacredintersections Special thanks to our associate producer and editor Andrew! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

In this episode, Safeena and Gurneet share what justice means to them, how privilege can manifest in health care, ‘calling in’ Dietitians of Canada, their hopes for greater diversity within the profession, the extension of Diversify Dietetics USA into Canada, the need for new HAES and Weight-Inclusive frameworks to ensure consideration of race, ethnicity and culture and how we can begin to make our practice more inclusive – right now! On this important episode of The Mindful Dietitian, Fi chats to Safeena Jabar and Gurneet K. Dhami, Dietetic Students and RD’s-to-be based in Canada, we hear; What justice means to Gurneet; from what it is to fit in, to the lack of diversity in dietetics and questioning; why are these conversations being centred now? What justice means to Safeena; from being asked the hard questions, to her lived experience, and understanding; that with our personal privileges, comes power. Gurneet and Safenna step us through the origins, definitions and meaning behind the term; white privilege, and ways privilege can manifest in health care.  ‘Calling in’ Dietitians of Canada; Safeena and Gurneet share how their cowritten statement to Dietitians Canada came about and the current developments brought about by it.  Their hopes for how the statement might start a shift towards racial and ethnical diversity within the dietetic profession. How in response to the statement, extensions of diverse groups and communities have been built and why we need to power groups and movements that are already happening, rather than reinventing the wheel. HAES and Weight Inclusive Practice and the ways in which we are not including race and culture into the framework; Safeena shares her experience finding HAES and weight inclusive practice and her difficulty and discomfort in trying to reconcile HAES with her culture identity. She also shares how a new HAES framework can become more inclusive and applicable to all different types of people. Gurneet shares her experience learning about HAES, the challenge of putting it into practice (as it stands) with a consideration for culture and race and why we need to understand all the intersections at play. She also shares the need to meet clients where they are at to ensure client-centred care and why we need to continue to have these messy and mucky conversations. In finishing up, Safeena and Gurneet graciously offer us additional ways in which we can begin to enhance our practice to ensure it is truly inclusive. As mentioned in the podcast: Safeena Jabar - IGTV unpacking privilege Dietitians of Canada Diversify Dietetics  Diversify Dietetics Canada Chapter Book: White Fragility - Why it's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism by Robin DiAngelo Safura Syed, MSc. Applied Human Nutrition (c) and Dietetic Intern Kimberlé Crenshaw, Civil rights advocate  Stephanie Yeboah, author, content creator, lifestyle and fashion blogger  Hunter Shackelford  Sonya Renee Taylor  Sabrina Strings, author of fearing the black body The Rosy Nutritionist, by Rosie Mensah Nutrition Positive, by Julia Lévy-Ndejuru  Exercises to work through our privilege: Flower power exercise:  http://lgbtq2stoolkit.learningcommunity.ca/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/flower-power-exercise.pdf Peggy McIntosh - White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf Peggy McIntosh - Extending the Knapsack: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02703149.2015.1059195 Checking Your Privilege with the Social Determinants of Health: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAx8TC6AKaR/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Social Location Wheel Exercise: https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/inclusive-teaching/sample-activities/social-identity-wheel/   Weight inclusive RDs that are incorporating justice into their practice: Vincci Tsui (vinccird): http://vinccitsui.com/ Grace Wong: https://www.facebook.com/gracewongrd/ Rosie Mensah (@therosienutritionist): https://therosienutritionist.com/ Jessica Wilson (@jessicawilson.msrd): www.jessicawilsonmsrd.com Christyna Johnson (@encouragingdietitian)     About Safeena Jabar: Safeena Jabar is a dietetic intern completing her Master’s degree in Nutrition Communication at Ryerson University in Toronto. After a turbulent time navigating nutrition information in her adolescence, Safeena committed to becoming a Registered Dietitian in order to gain a deeper, scientific understanding of nutrition and the body. She aims to provide a safe space for clients to discuss their goals and concerns while dispelling common myths. She is passionate about working with people to improve and maintain their wellness from an anti-diet, Health At Every Size®-informed approach. Safeena has a special interest in the impact of food on wellbeing based on her knowledge of complex historical and institutional factors that have shaped our food landscape. Health and social inequities persist through these systems, so Safeena is advocating for change through educating and empowering her fellow health care practitioners, local communities, and national organizations to ensure a future where all people have equitable access to appropriate healthcare.   About Gurneet Kaur Dhami Gurneet Kaur Dhami is a South Asian, Sikh woman travelling between Toronto to Halifax, where she is completing an MSc in Applied Human Nutrition at Mount Saint Vincent University. Her emerging thesis work focuses on the experiences of racialized dietitians navigating dietetics using Critical Race Theory. Gurneet is both a researcher and social activist, as she partakes in food justice work by working on food security projects and being involved in the student food movement. As a youth leader she hopes to further dialogue on race, reconciliation and equity beyond our kitchens t

I'm sorry, who are we thanking? Yvie takes you through why Thanksgiving is a disaster! Some reasons include: the murdering of turkeys, the consumerism of Black Friday, the history of murder and displacement of Indigenous people.....and parades! Theme song by the incredibly hot and talented Reuben Foley! Sources: showingupforracialjustice.org/indigenous-solidarity https://www.beaconbroadside.com/broadside/2018/11/unpacking-the-invisible-knapsack-of-settler-privilege.html - Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack of Settler Privilege, November 08, 2018, By Dina Gilio-Whitaker https://www.beaconbroadside.com/broadside/2016/10/surfing-and-indigeneity.html -- Surfing and Indigeneity, October 04, 2016, By Dina Gilio-Whitaker https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/24/us/native-americans-national-day-of-mourning/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/24/us/native-americans-national-day-of-mourning/index.html http://www.uaine.org/ https://www.ncai.org/about-tribes

Professional coach Meg Lyons tells us about her personal journey in becoming an anti-racist ally.  Reading list for this episode: Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson, Me and White Supremacy by Layla F. Saad; White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh (https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf); Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates.

In this episode we talk about an increased internal fire with regard to activism, overt and covert racism, white privilege, and how to live in an anti-racist way. Links:Overt and Covert Racism Exampleshttps://www.r2hub.org/library/overt-and-covert-racismIbram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo Discuss Race in Americahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POnUfzVP5uI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1TDfQ96Do4pKpPbafnKrAFVx-JAJKxczJhBr2F1BkXpnfrmQs07756wOkWashington Post- Resources to Understand America's Long History of Injustice and Inequalityhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/08/understanding-racism-inequality-america/?arc404=true&fbclid=IwAR1gdR7Laz57kP__oWOV_mLhDtqiQQzvEHbpxXjqvOfWxdpS6iL4pM0phQUWhite Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntoshhttps://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdfYoutube Video Systemic Racism Explainedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrHIQIO_bdQ&t=3s Black Owned Bookstores to Support Now Throughout the UShttps://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/bookselling/article/83495-black-owned-bookstores-to-support-now.html

Renee Powers is the founder and CEO of Feminist Book Club, the premier online hub for intersectional readers that encourages resistance through reading with a monthly subscription box, blog, podcast, and meetups. She has completed her Bachelors, Masters, and PhD coursework in gender communication and is a trained racial justice facilitator through the YWCA. You can find her in Minneapolis where she lives with her spouse and their retired racing greyhound.In this episode, Renee breaks down why we need to move away from purely white woman feminism into inclusive, intersectional feminism. Instead of fighting for just yourself, feminism is about fighting for the rights of ALL womxn. We discuss white fragility, white privilege, and white supremacy because as white women, we need to acknowledge the intersections of our identities and privileges and where we may fall into both the oppressed and the oppressor. We dive deeper into the following:Waves of feminismMoving from white woman feminism to intersectional feminismIntersectionality between our identitiesDifference between equality, justice, & liberationWhat it means to be a feminist for herTrans inclusive feminismWhite privilege, white supremacy, & white fragilityTokenism vs. diversityTune in for this crucial conversation!!//Resources:Articles: Educate & Activate The 19th Amendment: History's Most Exclusive Sorority Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntoshInstagram Follow:@staceyabramsBooks:How To Be An Anti-Racist by Ibram X. KendiHood Feminism: Notes From the Woman the Movement Forgot by Mikki Kendall//Songs:Praying by KeshaHere Comes The Change by KeshaRich, White, Straight, Men by KeshaWoman by KeshaLearn to Let Go by KeshaLet 'Em Talk by Kesha//Connect with Renee's work:Website: www.feministbookclub.comInstagram: @feministbookclubboxPodcast: Feminist Book Club: The Podcast//Follow along with the rest of my journey.Instagram: @whytli@inthewakewithwhytliFacebook: Whytli RogersTwitter: @whytliPinterest: WhytliTikTok: @whytliLinkedIn: Whytli RogersWebsite: whytli.comContact me here.Support the show (https://paypal.me/whytli?locale.x=en_US)

In this episode I have the honor of speaking with Tish Bolger, CEO of Girls Scouts River Valleys. In this delightful conversation, Tish shares key moments of her leadership journey, including how she learned the skill of assertiveness, the valuable leadership skills that were role modeled for her by an early manager, and the important areas of self-awareness that she works on daily.Referenced in this episode:Jorahi WindowWhite Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntoshThe Nickle Boys by Colson WhiteheadMusic credit:On My Way by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4163-on-my-wayLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

In this episode of Radiant Mix, Hope McGrath brings back to the forefront a conversation with her mother Helen Boxwill as they touch upon the touchy subjects of white privilege and the concepts of white fragility.  Helen Boxwill, a celebrated educator, lifelong activist, and mother of biracial children for a few decades as insightful and empowering thoughts on the topic.  She even dishes come good advice to navigate difficult discussions about race with loved ones, tips on raising mixed kids, and more. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS: Denial and resistance of white privilege The importance of freeing ourselves from the fear of talking about race across cultures Tips of how to navigate difficult conversations when ‘white fragility’ is front and center Transforming the oppression of racial difference and societal segregation Advice on raising mixed kids How to evolve past the comfort zone and nurture a multicultural existence if it is not the norm Navigating the typical mixed kid question…. “What are you?”    LINKS: Edward L. Nyankanzi Burundi Scholarship Fund for Burundi Refugees    Helen Boxwill of H2 Empower   White Fragility by Dr. Robin Diangelo White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh  Angel Kyodo Williams Anti-Defamation League      

Today we sit down with elementary educator Keenan Lee.  We discuss how to keep up with 1st graders, racial bias in the classroom and society, and what to do when kids wet themselves. Keenan did an interview with Achieve the Core, and wrote an article for Edutopia.  You can also follow him on Twitter @LearningwithKLHe also references a great article by Peggy Macintosh called "White Privilege:  Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack." Don't forget to like and subscribe, and follow us on Twitter @unprocastHave a funny story or suggestion? Email us! Sponsors:Roo Makes BraceletsPodgo LISTENERS!  We're going for a PEOPLE'S CHOICE PODCAST AWARD!  Please nominate us, so we can pay you back with ridiculous guests and stories:   https://www.podcastawards.com/app/signup/

To say the least, 2020 hasn't panned out like most of us expected.With a pandemic turning our daily lives upside down and a social justice movement igniting across the nation, making sense of it all and understanding our place in it can be overwhelming. So I did what any sane person would do, I called up two of my smart and sassy girlfriends to catch up, check-in, and talk about the two things that are changing the world forever: COVID-19 and the Black Lives Matter Movement. We talk about the challenges educators and parents are facing, racism in our families, and how you can find your place amid the chaos.Resources Mentioned:Racism Without Racists by Eduardo Bonilla-SilvaUnpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntoshInstagram Accounts Mentioned: @ochentapodcast, @avillagescholar, @hownottotravellikeabasicbitch, @aclu, @blackorganizingproject, @docmellymel, @blmlosangeles, asian.activist, @aapiwomenleadLet's Connect:Follow us on Instagram @thecommon_collective and our host @melaniewhitney_Like us on FacebookFind out more about us at our website

Sara Eisenberg is a healer, herbalist, activist and elder. Today we talk on the podcast about all aspects of healing and the practices that go along with that, from collage to herbalism to unraveling the stories we tell ourselves both about ourselves and everyone around us. You can learn more about Sara's work and connect with her at alifeofpractice.com. Other resources mentioned: Christopher Hobbs: https://www.christopherhobbs.com Matthew Wood: http://www.woodherbs.com/Indispensable.html A Society of Souls, and Jason Shulman: https://www.societyofsouls.com Double Magenta (collage work): https://www.doublemagenta.com and @doublemagenta on Instagram. Polyvagal Theory: https://www.stephenporges.com White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, by Peggy McIntosh: https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf White Fragility, by Robin DiAngelo Find Dr Hofmann on IG @drkatherinehofmann Music courtesy of Joseph McDade.

In today's episode, we will be talking with our good friend, Jeff Bond. As Director of Client Services at AppBarry, Jeff is responsible for business development, account management, and delivery of custom software & cloud integration projects. He is also the Co-Founder of "Chat With Leaders", a podcast designed to give resilient, servant leaders a platform for sharing the inspiring things they’re doing to lead their teams, themselves, and the communities they serve wisely. Overall, Jeff has 15+ years of experience delivering technology, business, and people solutions as a sales, management, and consulting professional. He and his wife Katie reside in Atlanta, GA with their 3 children. Listen as Jeff and I talk about apps, faith and racial reconciliation among other things. You can connect with Jeff in the following ways: Personal: LinkedIn/Twitter/Facebook @jeffbond123 Instagram @jeffbond1234 Professional: Chat With Leaders LinkedIn/Twitter/Facebook/Instagam @ChatWithLeaders AppBarry Facebook @Aappbarryllc Twitter/Instagram/LinkedIn @appbarry Jeff also mentioned someone you need to know: Peggy McIntosh, anti-racism activist "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" and "Some Notes for Facilitators". Ted Talks Oct 2012 This talk was presented to a local audience at TEDxTimberlaneSchools, an independent event.https://www.ted.com/talks/peggy_mcintosh_how_to_recognize_your_white_privilege_and_use_it_to_fight_inequality?language=en At Tech & Main, we want to be YOUR technology partner. Let our 20+ years of expertise help you achieve the outcomes that are best for your business: cloud, SD-WAN, data center, security or anything else. We have engineers and project managers available to assist you. Call our office at 678-575-8515, email us at info@techandmain.com or visit us at www.techandmain.com. Thanks for listening! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/techandmain/message

Episode #84: Building and Inclusive Business with Christina SackeyfioThis episode is the audio recording of a session that took place within the Mamas & Co. community. Our members were deeply affected by the events that led to the resurgence of the Black Lives Matter movement around the world. It was clear, that as an international organization, and one that prided itself in being inclusive, we had to step-up and give our members, and ourselves, the opportunity to learn what we didn't know and grow by providing the platform for us to engage in uncomfortable conversations and ask the difficult questions.We asked Christina Sackeyfio of Boldly Inclusive to help us navigate the sensitive and highly important issues of diversity, inclusion and belonging. It was essential that we, as business owners and leaders create spaces where everyone, clients and employees, belong and can thrive. Christina shared her 5 pillars of building an inclusive business as well as answered hard-hitting questions from our members.This was an eye-opening talk, and it gave resources to help our members become better educated in systemic racism, the steps to take in becoming better allies, and how they can become better leaders in their own communities. Links mentioned in during the session:Start with Why by Simon Sinek https://www.amazon.ca/Start-Why-Leaders-Inspire-Everyone/dp/1591842808/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1592687618&sr=8-1ADKAR Model to Change Management https://www.prosci.com/adkar/adkar-modelSurvey Monkey https://www.surveymonkey.com/Project Implicit https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/ByBlacks.com https://www.byblacks.com/AfroBizWorld.com https://www.afrobizworld.com/The Muse https://www.themuse.com/Daniel Goleman: Three Kinds of Empathy http://www.danielgoleman.info/three-kinds-of-empathy-cognitive-emotional-compassionate/The Business of Thinking Big PodcastEpisode #81: Leadership & Inclusivity https://www.liannekim.com/blog/81White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo https://www.amazon.ca/White-Fragility-People-About-Racism/dp/0807047414White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdfChristina Sackeyfio, Boldly Inclusive http://www.boldlyinclusive.co/Christina's LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinasackeyfio/Christina's Twitter handle @BeEvenBolder https://twitter.com/BeEvenBolder

For this episode, Lisa Dominguez Abraham joins us to discuss some of the racial disparities in public education that have been highlighted by coronavirus and social unrest. She invites all of us to consider how our position and privileges impact the people around us, recognizing that this might be a particular challenge for white parents who haven't previously considered themselves what Robin DiAngelo calls “part of a racially socialized group.”    “I was taught to recognize racism only in individual acts of meanness by members of my group, never in invisible systems conferring unsought racial dominance on my group from birth.” - Peggy McIntosh, White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, 1989   Although she's not an expert on these issues, Lisa shares her perspectives as a mom, community college English professor and Professional Development Coordinator. She believes parents help children locate themselves in terms of their relationships to their families, their communities, and the natural world, and that part of this awareness should include a consideration of their racial identity and privileges. While these topics might feel uncomfortable, parents can model for their children the way understanding oneself is a continual journey of personal growth and evolution. This episode is vulnerable and far from perfect, but we want to share more of these important conversations with you.  If you have any feedback or questions about this episode, we would love to connect with you to further the conversation.   Resources From This Episode: Lisa Dominguez Abraham: https://www.lisadominguezabraham.com/   ---   Lisa Dominguez Abraham is an English professor at Cosumnes River College, a school that has been noted as one of the 10 most diverse community colleges in the nation. She currently serves as the Professional Development Coordinator at CRC. Her poetry collection Mata Hari Blows a Kiss won the 2016 Swan Scythe Chapbook Contest, and her full-length book of poetry, Coyote Logic, came out from Blue Oak Press in 2019.   Subscribe Now: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher | Google Play

For today’s podcast we sat down to have an amazing conversation with University of Georgia professor Dr.Rumya Putcha to discuss her research on the intersection between race, gender, systems of oppression and the politics of silence in the United States in general and how this shows up in wellness spaces in particular. We unpacked the ways in which we have come to often misuse the concept of self-care to avoid and turn away from difficult yet necessary conversations and the trauma caused when we allow ourselves to be silenced in the face of oppressive interactions and practices. Lastly we made sure to address what we have to do to navigate and recognize these realities while still holding space for our individual and collective racial healing. Shownotes: Dr. Rumya Putcha The Balanced Blonde featuring Rachel Ricketts W.E.B Dubois, “The Souls of Black Folks” Peggy McIntosh, “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack”

Christina Jimenez, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor at the University of Colorado, and an expert in the processes of privilege that can both limit and promote opportunities for individuals, dependent on factors such as race, ethnicity, gender and class.

Christina Jimenez, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor at the University of Colorado, and an expert in the processes of privilege that can both limit and promote opportunities for individuals, dependent on factors such as race, ethnicity, gender and class.

Join Megan and Holly as they explore the ancient power of Reiki, the collective, the institutions built from power and privilege and ways to step into social responsibility.  Reiki Resources: "Reiki Healing: Step-By-Step Guide To Reiki Healing For Beginners" By Lena Lind & Peter Harris Power & Privilege Resources: Kendall, Francis. “Understanding White Privilege.” 2002,  McIntosh, Peggy. “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.” Power & Privilege Definitions. https://www.pdx.edu/studentmedia/sites/www.pdx.edu.student-media/files/Power%20and%20Privilege%20Concepts.pdf. Spring, Joel. Deculturalization and the Struggle for Equality: A Brief History of the Education of Dominated Cultures in the United States.  University of Sunset Coast. “Race, Power and Privilege.” 

Struck by the statistics emerging of those dying from covid19 due to comorbidity, this week's mothering myself podcast bravely speaks to white privilege, guilt, and radical honesty. To dream of and create a new paradigm requires us to to acknowledge the world we have inherited, and explore the part we have played in its continuation. In order for us to break any cycle, we must become aware of the cycle that exists to become conscious of the unconscious behaviors perpetuating a harmful experience. This conversation is uncomfortable for me to speak aloud as a privileged white woman because it forces me to confront myself in addition to feeling vulnerable and exposed, and potentially getting it 'wrong'. This episode, like all of the Mothering Myself Podcast episodes, seeks for us to question our experiences and become more aware of the aspects of ourselves that we may overlook.  We are reminded that to overlook our privilege is the greatest privilege; the choice to see ourselves as privileged is unjust and creates a system of inequality/inequity. I invite you to step into the conversation and fumble along with me. I believe more and more that stepping out of our comfort zone is the beginning of living into a new reality. If you're interested in the full article shared concluding this episode, please check out Peggy McIntosh's article, 'Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.' Join our growing community on Instagram where we can connect in real time with one another: @motheringmyselfpodcast Get in touch + learn more here. Special thanks to @MegAnne.Ford of @bekindcoaching for sponsoring Season 2.  

Welcome to the Wheels Omnibus, an Omnibus Academy production hosted by Dean and Mary. In this space, we discuss lifestyle, popular culture, and current events through a quasi-educational lens with the goal of always delivering digestible takeaways. In this episode, Dean and Mary unpack Peggy McIntosh's “Invisible Knapsack” within the context of Dean's experiences across different environments. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

This is the first episode of a 2-part series on White Privilege. In this episode, we look at the concept of white privilege. Using resources from Be The Bridge, as well as Peggy McIntosh's “Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” we'll explain white privilege — what it really is, who has it, and what we can do with it.

Today at 1pm on KPFA's Women's Magazine Fuifuilupe Niumeitolu talks to Dr. Ella Henry, a Maori scholar and community leader from New Zealand, about her work with her tribe to get the New Zealand government to return their ancestral homelands, the complications and the grief and losses that the colonial violence created for the Maori and how their work contributes to Maori cultural revitalization and towards the goals of Maori self determination in New Zealand. Then Sharon Sobotta talks to Peggy McIntosh the anti-racist feminist activist and scholar who wrote the seminal 1989 article “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” which pioneered putting the dimension of privilege into discussions of power, gender, race, class and sexuality in the United States The post Dr Ella Henry on Maori resistance and Peggy McIntosh on White Privilege appeared first on KPFA.

Carter and Keri walk through Peggy McIntosh's seminal essay, "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack." This paper is widely viewed as responsible for popularizing the term "white privilege." Here's a link to the essay so you can follow along: https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf About Deprogrammed Every Thursday at 11:00 Pacific, former SJW Keri Smith joins Unsafe Space to co-host "Deprogrammed." We'll explore the philosophy, strategy, and tactics that Marxist and postmodern nihilists use to program "Social Justice Warriors," turning otherwise thoughtful, critically-minded individuals into armies of extreme leftist NPCs. Each week, we'll talk about a different aspect of "social justice" culture, drawing both from Keri's personal experience as well as current events. YouTube link to video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/qS33LEVdM00

If ever we needed to tackle a tough topic, this is it. We can do this, friends. We have to do this. Let's talk. And we have THE best woman to talk to. Mika Karikari graciously discusses racial healing and reconciliation on this episode of The Big Top. She has fight, she has brains, she has grace. Also. She has thoughts. Particularly on either kangaroos or koalas. It's all about the pockets. DO not miss this one! But truly, we share fails and wins, she shares heartbreaking realities, and we all pitch in and discuss steps forward for every one of us. Prepare your heart and tune in.Mika is a 30 something who loves Jesus, her husband, baking, hugs, writing, coffee and her beloved hometown of Cincinnati. Professionally, she works in higher education and enjoys being part of student's collegiate journey. She is also a current doctoral candidate whose research is focused on Black women and leadership. When not working you can find Mika baking, reading for fun, or watching sports with her hubby.Mika's references and resources:The Danger of a Single Story TED Talk by Chimamanda AdichieUnpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh- This oldie but goodie is a written work that every white person should read.Racial Microagressions in Everyday Life by Dr. Sue- Although this article is in the context of clinical practice, it does an excellent job of addressing microaggressions in an accessible way.The Hate you Give by Angie Thomas- Great fiction book that addresses relevant race issues in America. It also was made into a movie.All American Boys by Jason Reynolds & Brendan Kiely- Great fiction book that addresses police brutality from the perspective of both a white boy and a Black boy.Small Great Things by Jodi Picoult- Her website includes questions that are great prompts to having an honest conversation about race

In this episode, we hear from Peggy McIntosh, author of, White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, and also Debby Irving, author of Waking Up White. Both guests reflect on why they feel it is important to make whiteness visible.

Chivvis Moore discusses her memoir, First Tie Your Camel, Then Trust in God: An American Feminist in the Arab World. Moore spent 17 years living in Egypt, Syria and Palestine, and taught for nine years in the Institute of Women's Studies at Bir Zeit University in Palestine. CHIVVIS MOORE reads from First Tie Your Camel, Then Trust in God: An American Feminist in the Arab World Tuesday, September 27, 7 pm 360 42nd Street, Oakland Book sales benefit Middle East Children's Alliance And Sharon Sobotta catches up with two feminist scholars whose groundbreaking work changed our understanding of racial oppression and privilege: Shakti Butler, filmmaker and educator, whose latest film is Cracking the Code: The System of Racial Inequity, and Peggy McIntosh, author of the classic 1989 article, “White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.” Learn about how you can support the Truth & Reclamation Pilgrimage and the Women's Boat to Gaza. The post Womens Magazine – September 26, 2016 appeared first on KPFA.

Join the Joyful CourageTribe in our community Facebook group - Live and Love with Joyful Courage.  Raising our children while growing ourselves... Welcome! My guest today is Sarah MacLaughlin, a compassion coach, child behavior decoder, parent educator, author, speaker, and warrior for kindness. Sounds like a busy woman, doesn't she? There is more! She is also the mother of an eight-year-old and is a licensed social worker in Maine. Sarah was a guest for Episode 30, when she discussed Setting Limits. I'm so excited to have her back to help us make sense out of some of the troubling current events in our country. How do we raise our kids to treat ALL people with dignity and respect in the midst of a predominantly white culture? How are we raising our kids to make a better world? Join us for this important and timely conversation. What you'll hear in this episode: The responsibility of parents today Stop talking and LISTEN! Making it all make sense to kids Implicit bias: What is it? Being rich vs. being wealthy Why we fear discomfort Our hierarchal society (it exists) Finding opportunities for diversity What's NORMAL? The anti-bias classroom Why we can't ignore US history Why being “colorblind” is NOT the answer Kids—they are ALWAYS watching! How to confront others and express your discomfort Is your home “whitewashed”? Resources: www.sarahmaclaughlin.com Use Sarah's name to find her on Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, and Instagram. Love First: Parenting to Reduce Racism, Sexism, Homophobia and Other Forms of Hate, by Sarah MacLaughlin Laying the Groundwork for Acceptance and Inclusion, by Sarah MacLaughlin Talking to my White Child About Race, by Sarah MacLaughlin  40 Ways to Raise a Nonracist Child, by Barbara Mathias EDITORIAL: What I Said When My White Friend Asked For My black Opinion on White Privilege, by Lori Lakin Hutcherson Thoughts From A Middle Class White Mama, by Casey O'Roarty White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh  Another Round podcast :::::::::: #JoyfulCourage10I would LOVE to have you check out the latest offer I have for parents - it is FREE and SUPER supportive!!  Just click here for more info and to register. :::::::::: Join the Joyful CourageTribe in our community Facebook group - Live and Love with Joyful Courage.  Raising our children while growing ourselves... :::::::::: Make sure to SUBSCRIBE to the Joyful Courage Podcast on iTunes to get the latest shows STRAIGHT to your device!!  AND PLEASE rate and review the Joyful Courage Parenting Podcast on iTunes to help me spread the show to an ever larger audience!! :::::::::::