Podcast appearances and mentions of jane law

Speaker: Sarah Wells, Jane Law, Sara Melton

On this episode, we dive into the historical context of the polygamy revelation (D&C 132). We discuss the plight of Emma with Jo’s reckless libido. We cover the historical foundation for William and Jane Law possibly brokering a sex-swap deal with Emma and Joseph Smith, as well as their later denials of such scandalous accusations. The stories of Sarah and Maria Lawrence & Emily and Eliza Partridge are told through the lens of some of the foremost historians of the field, reconstructed from firsthand accounts. Links: Hales – Quinn “Evidence for the Sexual Side of Joseph Smith’s Polygamy” http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/dialogues/hales-quinn/#link_ajs-fn-id_255-90 William Law Letters to Wilhelm Wymetal http://www.william-law.org/publications/the-mormons-in-nauvoo-three-letters-from-william-law-on-mormonism-an-honest-mans-view-and-remorse-the-daily-tribune-salt-lake-city-july-3-1887 Joseph H. Jackson 1844 expose http://www.olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1840s/1844Jack.htm Smith/Law wife swap on FAIR Mormon https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Question:_Did_Joseph_Smith_offer_to_trade_Jane_Law_for_Emma_Smith_in_a_wife_swap_with_William_Law%3F#cite_ref-1 Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Legal Counsel http://patorrez.com/

[paypal-donation] The RLDS Church was founded on the claim that Joseph Smith never practiced polygamy.  Even on her death bed, Emma Smith made the startling claim to some that Joseph never practiced polygamy.  Conservative bloggers such as Rock Waterman (see his post here) and even Denver Snuffer have made the claim that Joseph Smith was a monogamist.  However, current RLDS Church prophet/president Stephen Veazey has made the claim that historical records show that Joseph Smith did practice polygamy.  What does Dr. Brian Hales believe about these allegations about monogamy and Joseph Smith? I have an article that I have been pitching to different people to publish on the denials.  To be quite honest with you, there are at least two other denials that clearly were not senility, were clearly not specially phrased questions where Emma just comes right out and they're fairly well documented, said “Joseph did not practice polygamy.” How do I deal with that?  I don't know.  I do not have a good explanation.  I think Emma was an amazing woman.  I look forward to meeting her someday.  You know in our theology that's a possibility.  She had the worst row to hoe of all the polygamist wives in my view.  She did remarkably well.  She stumbled, but I believe there's plenty of forgiveness on these things for her, but I honestly don't know how she was able to say these things that she said.  Hopefully these will be published. I've put them together, I just haven't got them published yet.  It's pretty clear that she just denied it flat out.  I don't know how she made that work for her, but they're there. I also asked Brian how he deals with the idea that Joseph practiced only monogamy. Brian:  You know it's interesting, Rick, that you would bring that up because by the time this interview is aired, The Interpreter {a Mormon history journal} will have published a very long article that I have written where I don't just give evidence that Joseph did it, but I actually attack the arguments by, I mention Rock Waterman, I mention the Prices, and then Denver Snuffer who is in my view just the latest false prophet.  Remember I started looking at Mormon fundamentalism and I documented and wrote articles on men or came as great leaders who came for this reason or that reason and then they just fall by the wayside.  There's a number of these that I talk about in my book.  I think Denver is just the latest in all of this type of a pattern. For those who have questions, the easiest way probably to detect Denver is he said Joseph didn't practice polygamy, and then just look at the evidence.  I outline it all here.  It is true that most of the evidence that Joseph practiced plural marriage is from late sources, but not all of it.  The Nauvoo Expositor states right in there that Joseph Smith had a revelation.  It was read to the high council.  We've got testimonials from William Law and Jane Law saying that Joseph was teaching polygamy.  These are contemporaneous.  There are entries in William Clayton's journal.  John C. Bennett clearly had heard some rumors.  I don't know that he was ever in confidence of Joseph with it.  But to say that it's all old is not true.  There are some very important contemporaneous sources. What do you think of the arguments Brian makes against monogamy?  (As a reminder, this is part 10 of our conversation with Brian.  Check out parts 1-9 to learn the facts behind polygamy.)  Look below for a video and transcript. https://youtu.be/BxFWMzde2TY https://gospeltangents.com/shop/transcripts/emma-denied-joseph-practiced-polygamy/  

In this episode Grant Palmer, author of"An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins," returns to Mormon Stories to discuss: 1) Sexual allegations made against Joseph Smith during his early years, 2) the story of William and Jane Law, and 3) an update on Grant’s resignation from the LDS church and his final testimony.

In this episode Grant Palmer, author of"An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins," returns to Mormon Stories to discuss: 1) Sexual allegations made against Joseph Smith during his early years, 2) the story of William and Jane Law, and 3) an update on Grant’s resignation from the LDS church and his final testimony.

In this episode Grant Palmer, author of"An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins," returns to Mormon Stories to discuss: 1) Sexual allegations made against Joseph Smith during his early years, 2) the story of William and Jane Law, and 3) an update on Grant’s resignation from the LDS church and his final testimony.