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Welcome back to Part 34 of our series with Dr. John G. Turner! Today we are covering most of Chapter 27 in John Turner's new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet. The chapter is called “Deep Water” and covers the year 1843.The main topic for today is polygamy.Join us as we discuss several of Joseph Smith's wives such as Flora Woodworth, Eliza R. Snow, Sarah Ann Whitney, Lucy Walker, etc. John Dehlin challenges Dr. John Turner on specific aspects such as whether Emma Smith really did push Eliza R. Snow down the stairs and whether or not Porter Rockwell did actually attempt to assassinate Lilburn Boggs. We also discuss the validity of the William Clayton journals and postulate on why the church has yet to publish them.Throughout 1843, Joseph Smith promised men and women salvation based on their willingness to enter into polygamy. He spent church funds on gifts for his wives, as well as buying some of them plots of land, and even travel expenses for some of the women (from England to Nauvoo). Joseph Smith used language that could be seen as coercive, for example, telling Lucy Walker that polygamy was a command of God and that he would give her “until tomorrow to decide this matter [of polygamy] and that “If you reject this message the gate will be closed forever against you.”In this episode we tackle hard questions such as: Can people who do bad things also be good? Does good behavior negate seemingly abusive actions? Are people all bad and all good? Can Joseph Smith's actions be seen as human trafficking?This chapter in Mormonism is deeply problematic and disturbing, but Dr. John Turner handles it amazingly.Let us know your thoughts on a Brigham Young series (comprising ten episodes) covering John Turner's book Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet.If you'd like to help keep this project going, please consider donating to support this series here. Your support makes long-form, in-depth historical discussion like this possible!Purchase John Turner's book here.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
In his official 1838 history, Joseph Smith described discovering the golden plates inside a carefully constructed stone box in the Hill Cumorah. According to his account, the box contained the plates, the Urim and Thummim, and a breastplate.But what happened to that stone box?In this episode of LDS Discussions, we take a deep dive into the historical record surrounding the stone box narrative. We compare Joseph Smith's 1838 history with earlier and later accounts, statements from witnesses like David Whitmer, Martin Harris, and Oliver Cowdery, and later retellings from leaders such as Brigham Young.We explore:-What Joseph Smith said was inside the box-Whether early Saints believed there was MORE than one box-Claims about swords, the Liahona, and other Nephite artifacts-The evolution of the story over time-Whether codex-style plates create anachronistic problems-The “magic worldview” shared by early Mormon leaders-Comparisons to treasure-digging culture-Why there is no physical evidence of the stone box todayWe also examine 19th century newspaper references discussing the stone box, Whitmer's later (contradictory) interviews, and the strange disappearance of a stone structure that supposedly survived for over a thousand years.If the box was real and physically constructed with stone slabs and pillars –as described –why did it leave no trace? Why didn't believers preserve fragments the way people took pieces of the Berlin Wall? And why does the Hill Cumorah today appear completely undisturbed?This episode wrestles with a central question: Does the detail of a stone box strengthen Joseph Smith's credibility –or create new historical and epistemological problems?This is Episode 71 in our LDS Discussions series!___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
On this groundbreaking episode of Mormonish Podcast, John Knight Lundwall (PhD, comparative myth and religion) evaluates claims that the Book of Mormon contains colophons—ancient paratextual scribal features used to identify and classify texts. He concludes instead that the book employs an unusual first‑person narrative and speech structure absent from both ancient and modern historical writings. So where did this structure come from? Lundwall traces this structure not to antiquity but to the oratorical conventions of Joseph Smith's cultural milieu, and he likewise attributes another distinctive feature—the presence of Early Modern English in the earliest manuscripts—to Smith's magical practices. This episode is a must watch as you start to realize that Joseph Smith's magical practices might be the key to everything! Connect with Dr. Lundwall: www.johnklundwall.com Other videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzh1qiLbCcyfzKyzwbutQ6gawpGXdSkFa Join Dr. John Knight Lundwall on a once in a lifetime tour of Egypt, May, 2027. Discounted graduate school rates, professional academic guides, and Dr. Lundwall leading you through all the major sites up and down the Nile. https://www.stylishtours.com/tours/egyptianodysseytour Thank you so much for watching Mormonish Podcast! ***How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here: Mormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast ****WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you'd like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch You can get your own quote to attend our Post-Mormon Celebration Cruise by visiting - https://kheskethtravel.com/post-mormon-celebration-cruise And you can get more info on the cruise by visiting - https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/post-mormon-celebration-cruise/ We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast! Contact Mormonish Podcast: mormonishpodcast@gmail.com #mormonish #lds #mormon #exmormon #postmormon #religion #news, #ldschurch #comeuntochrist #churchofjesuschrist #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints #byu #byui #josephsmith #comefollowme #polygamy #bookofmormon #becauseofhim #hearhim #ldstemple FAIR USE DISCLAIMER All Media in this video (including the thumbnail) is used for the purpose of review and critique. The images in the thumbnail are used as the primary means of visually identifying the subject matter of the video.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Join Michelle Stone and Cheryl Bruno as they discuss the history of the Mormon polygamy wars that erupted in the U.S. AFTER the death of Joseph Smith.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Joseph's brothers thought they had buried their secret in a pit decades ago. But when a global famine drives them to the feet of the most powerful man in Egypt, they discover that while you can hide from your past, you can't hide from God's plan for your redemption. Summary: In this final episode on the book of Genesis, we cover chapters 42–50. We witness the emotional climax of the Joseph saga and discover how one man's integrity provided salvation for the entire House of Israel. The Test of Character: We analyze why Joseph was so "hard" on his brothers at first. It wasn't revenge; it was a carefully designed test to see if they had truly repented of their treatment of him. The Transformation of Judah: We look at the stunning moment Judah offers himself as a slave to save Benjamin—becoming a "surety" for his brother and a powerful type of Jesus Christ. Reconciliation and Grace: We explore Joseph's perspective: "God did send me before you to preserve life." We learn how to move past bitterness by seeing the "big picture" of God's providence. The Blessings of Israel: We dive into Genesis 49, where Jacob blesses his twelve sons. We discuss the unique roles of the different tribes and the specific promises given to the "fruitful bough" of Joseph. The Prophetic Connection: We conclude with the Joseph Smith Translation of Genesis 50, uncovering the ancient prophecy of a "choice seer" who would be named after his father and bring God's people to salvation in the last days. Call-to-Action: Joseph told his brothers, "Am I in the place of God?" when they feared his retaliation. Is there someone you need to release from the "prison" of your resentment? Share your thoughts on forgiveness in the comments. To keep your faith "Unshaken" as we transition into the book of Exodus, please like, subscribe, and share this video. Chapter Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 2:32 Faith & Forgiveness 7:39 Making Use of the Means 12:00 Getting Past the Strange & Rough 16:07 The Nakedness of the Land 18:38 True Men or True Remorse 30:22 Joseph's Response 33:29 Money in their Sacks 40:41 Collateral & Christ 51:10 Brother Benjamin 56:58 Debt or Gift 1:01:03 The Bitter Cup 1:14:25 Forgiveness & Reconciliation 1:35:15 Joseph & Jacob 1:40:35 Sacrificing all for the Bread of Life 1:55:21 Ephraim & Manasseh 2:17:27 Patriarchal Blessings & the 12 Tribes 2:43:12 Doubting Forgiveness 2:57:36 Joseph's Prophecy of Joseph Smith
Janice Allred was excommunicated just over 30 years ago, but still attends the LDS Church!!! Why? She will talk about why she stays, and offer advice to others on how to stay if they want to. We’ll discuss how it affects her family, her testimony, and we’ll even dive into why current polygamy revisionists are getting into trouble with LDS Church leaders. Check out our conversation! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O8H-QXlDPw Why I Stay: Three Decades in the Pews as an Excommunicated Member What does it look like to remain dedicated to a faith community that has formally cast you out? For Janice Allred, a “philosophical theologian” who was excommunicated in 1995, the answer is found in showing up every Sunday for over thirty years. Allred, the sister of fellow scholar Margaret Toscano, was disciplined primarily for her writings on “God the Mother“ and her critiques of church authority, yet she remains a fixture in her local ward. Why Stay? When asked the “Sunstone question” of why she stays, Allred's first response is simple: “Because I want to”. Her deeper motivations are rooted in her identity as a follower of Jesus Christ, noting that He encouraged His followers to meet together often to strengthen one another. Furthermore, she feels a profound connection to the revelations of Joseph Smith, including the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, and wants to worship where those texts are accepted as scripture. From Pariah to Participant The road has not been easy. For the first five to ten years after her excommunication, Allred describes being treated like a “pariah” and was largely ignored by her ward members. She recalls a poignant moment five years in when a fellow ward member simply said “Hello,” and she nearly broke into tears because so few had spoken to her during that time. The turning point was a house fire. While the community struggled to know how to respond to her theological dissent, they knew exactly how to help a family in a physical crisis. Today, she is a regular participant in Sunday school and Relief Society, though she is denied the sacrament, which she describes as the hardest part of her experience. The “Observer” Strategy Allred offers a unique perspective for those struggling with their faith: be an observer. She navigates the tension of hearing things she disagrees with—such as the “adulation” of church leadership or the Proclamation on the Family—by taking a step back and viewing the meetings through a sociological or theological lens. She does not feel the need to agree with everything said from the pulpit to feel that she belongs to the “invisible church” of true followers of Christ. A Different Kind of Fundamentalism Perhaps most surprising is Allred's stance as a “polygamy revisionist.” Through her theological studies, she became convinced that Joseph Smith neither taught nor practiced polygamy, and she views Section 132 as a later forgery or a text contrary to the gospel. While this view challenges the lineage of authority from Brigham Young, she maintains that her primary goal is seeking what is true according to her own conscience and inspiration. Janice Allred's journey is a testament to self-authorship in faith. She remains a “member of the ward” in spirit, even if not on the records, proving that for some, the community of Christ is worth the discomfort of dissent. What do you think of Janice's persistence for 30+ years?
In this episode, we examine one of the clearest translation claims in Mormon history: the Book of Abraham. Joseph Smith said he translated ancient writings of Abraham from Egyptian papyri. Those papyri were displayed, studied, and described as the source of the text. Today, we still have fragments of those papyri. And Egyptologists can read… Read More »The Book of Abraham: Can Joseph Translate Egyptian? The post The Book of Abraham: Can Joseph Translate Egyptian? appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
Tonight on The Mormon Newscast, our lead story comes out of Atlanta where Morehouse College has unveiled a portrait of Joseph Smith Jr. inside its Martin Luther King Jr. International Chapel — placing the founder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the school's International Hall of Honor alongside figures like Abraham… Read More »Did Joseph Smith Own Slaves? The post Did Joseph Smith Own Slaves? appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
We focus heavily on the turbulent history of the physical temple lot in Independence, Missouri, and the controversial figure of apostle Otto Fetting. Daniel Malone, a Sunday school teacher for the Church of Christ (Temple Lot) gives his insights. https://youtu.be/xqRZPoyaUqk Don't miss our other conversations on Hedrickites: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/Hedrickites/ Copyright © 2026 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved The 1920s Influx and a Changing Church During the 1920s, the RLDS Church experienced a major schism over “supreme directional control,” which led to a massive influx of former RLDS members joining the Church of Christ. This sudden growth swelled the Independence congregation from roughly 250 to nearly 600 members. Amidst an era of intense theological debates, the Church of Christ made a monumental organizational change in 1925: they completely abolished the office of a presiding elder (or president), choosing instead to be led collectively by a Quorum of Twelve Apostles. However, Malone candidly admits that the early church had a “horrible track record” of electing apostles, resulting in numerous leaders leaving and taking factions of the church with them. Otto Fetting and the Masonic Blueprints One of the most notable apostles from this era was Otto Fetting, who joined around 1927 and claimed to receive a series of revelations from John the Baptist. Fetting instructed the church to build a temple and provided blueprints for a massive 180-by-90-foot structure that Malone describes as looking like a Masonic lodge. This directly contradicted Joseph Smith’s earlier instructions to build the Independence temple to match the dimensions of the Kirtland temple, which was much smaller. Fetting’s revelations eventually commanded that members be rebaptized, which was a bridge too far for the church. The Church of Christ ultimately rejected Fetting, redacted all of his revelations, and considers them non-binding8. Ironically, the 180-by-90-foot dimensions proposed by Fetting are the ones still marked out on the temple lot today. The Cornerstone Controversy While excavating the foundation for Fetting’s temple, workers unearthed cornerstones that are currently housed in the church’s visitor center. Malone expressed deep personal suspicion regarding these artifacts. While he acknowledges the possibility that Joseph Smith could have originally placed them there to mark the spot, Malone finds it highly convenient that they were discovered right as Fetting was attempting to legitimize his massive temple project, suggesting they could potentially be forgeries planted by Fetting. Current Temple Plans and “Closed Communion” Despite owning the property, the Church of Christ has absolutely no current plans to build a temple. They have money strictly earmarked and set aside for a temple, but they refuse to move forward unless they receive a direct, divine revelation from God commanding them to do so. We also addressed a rumor regarding a Brazilian restoration group attempting to merge with the Church of Christ to gain voting rights over the temple lot. Malone dismissed the likelihood of this, explaining that the church practices “closed communion” and requires all new members to be rebaptized directly into their organization. In fact, they stopped accepting priesthood and baptismal transfers from the RLDS Church back in the 1920s or 1930s due to stark differences in belief. Don't miss our other conversations on the Temple Lot group: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/Hedrickites/ Copyright © 2026 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved 0:00 Otto Fetting/Temple Cornerstones 15:11 Brazil Group
I was able to get a rare interview with a member of the Church of Christ (Temple Lot.) Daniel Malone is an adult Sunday school teacher for the church in Independence, Missouri. He provides a candid look into the history and theology of the organization, often historically referred to as the “Hedrickites.” https://youtu.be/pe4r4P3PkQ0 Don't miss our other conversations on Hedrickites: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/Hedrickites/ Copyright © 2026 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Scripture and the Book of Commandments The Church of Christ grounds its doctrine strictly in the King James Version of the Bible and the Book of Mormon (specifically utilizing their 1990 Independence Edition, which is based on the 1908 RLDS version.) Any theological belief must completely agree with both of these texts. A major highlight of the interview is Malone’s clarification on the Church of Christ (Temple Lot)’s position regarding the Book of Commandments. While outsiders often mistakenly assume it acts as the church’s canonized version of the Doctrine and Covenants, Malone explains that the church recently voted to officially stop printing it and distance themselves from it. The church has never considered the Book of Commandments to be binding scripture. Historically, it was used primarily as an evidentiary tool to demonstrate how early revelations were manipulated and changed when the Doctrine and Covenants was published. The Church of Christ completely rejects the Doctrine and Covenants, making this historical comparison crucial during late 19th-century ideological splits with the RLDS Church/Community of Christ. Church of Christ (Temple Lot) 1830 Roots Malone outlines the church’s desire to strip away what they view as “inventions” that crept into the early Mormon movement between 1830 and 1844. They believe Joseph Smith took on too much authority and that the church should be led collectively by a quorum of twelve apostles, rather than a single prophet, closely mirroring the New Testament church found in Acts. Following the scattering of church members after Joseph Smith’s death, a small, isolated group of believers in Illinois and Indiana maintained these original foundational beliefs. Under the leadership of Granville Hedrick, they received a revelation to return to Independence, Missouri. In 1867, they became the very first restoration group to bravely resettle in Missouri, doing so while the Mormon Extermination Order was still active. Women's Roles and Local Autonomy Malone also takes time to correct a misconception regarding the role of women in the Church of Christ. While they do not hold ministerial priesthood offices, women are considered essential spiritual pillars of the church. They take active roles in worship services, where they pray, testify, prophesy, teach Sunday school, and lead music. Malone also shares his own relaxed, autonomous approach to teaching his adult Sunday school class, noting that they do not follow a set correlation schedule, but rather study whatever topics excite him or inspire the class. The episode wraps up by teasing the next part of the conversation, which promises to dive into the controversies surrounding the 1930s apostle Otto Fetting, his massive blueprints for a temple, and the mysterious cornerstones unearthed on the temple lot. Don't miss our other conversations on Hedrickites: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/Hedrickites/ Copyright © 2026 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved
In part 14 of this continuing series, Phil teaches that the measure of faith is shown by what it accomplishes, and that faith, hope, and desire work together in a divine cycle. Drawing from Moroni 7 and Moroni 10, Phil explains that belief and trust in Jesus Christ generate hope, and hope gives rise to stronger faith. A sincere heart and real intent, meaning we are willing to accept whatever answer the Lord gives will create the desire that leads to the exercise of powerful faith. Through this process, and by the power of the Holy Ghost, Father reveals truth and corrects our conclusions as we willingly align our will with Him. Phil teaches that hope through the Atonement is only possible when we offer the sacrifice of a broken heart and contrite spirit (Moroni 7). Examples from scripture show how humility transforms weakness into strength (Ether 12), including Enoch, who received the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, overcame his weakness in speech, and exercised a greater faith seeing through the veil with an “eye of faith” (Moses 6; Ether 12:19). Phil also explains the pattern of receiving higher priesthood authority, noting the First and Second Orders of the Melchizedek Priesthood bestowed upon prophets such as Enoch, Moses, and Nephi by the voice of the Father (Moses 6, Moses 1 & 3 Nephi 11). Phil highlights that throughout scripture; Helaman 5, Alma 14, 3 Nephi 19, Acts 2, disciples of Christ exercise exceedingly strong faith in Jesus Christ, resulting in the reception of the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, miracles, and other transformative spiritual experiences. He reminds us that revelation is never casual; it requires obedience, sacrifice, and preparation. Miracles have not ceased (Moroni 7:36–39), and the same power held by ancient servants of God is available to all who exercise great faith, hope, and trust in Christ. Phil concludes that the Lord continues to call “other servants” (JST Matthew 21; D&C 101, 112, 103), and that Joseph Smith stands as the prophesied servant raised up in the last days. The path remains the same: to seek Christ by revelation, exercise mighty faith, receive the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, and press forward keeping all of Christ's commandments until we enter the rest of the Lord. Come and learn the Doctrine of Christ. TheRedemptionOfZion.org
In this episode of House of Learning: Understanding the Doctrine of the Temple, Meghan Farner and Cory Jensen explore three major covenant structures found throughout scripture — the Sinai covenant, the Davidic covenant, and the Abrahamic covenant — and how all three operate within what is called the “new and everlasting covenant.”This lesson reveals how God mercifully extends covenant relationships to humanity through multiple structures: collective covenants with nations and communities, intercessory covenants through proxy saviors, and personal covenants with individuals and their posterity. Together, these patterns reveal a divine system designed to bless, gather, protect, and spiritually mature God's children across generations.You'll learn:✨ What the Sinai covenant teaches about collective covenant responsibility✨ How the Davidic covenant reveals intercession, proxy leadership, and spiritual stewardship✨ Why Jesus Christ is the ultimate intercessor and covenant mediator✨ How the Abrahamic covenant demonstrates personal covenant relationship and divine promise✨ Why God honors covenant across time, nations, and generations✨ How covenant structures support spiritual ascension and becoming✨ What the “new and everlasting covenant” truly meansThis episode also explores biblical examples including Moses, David, Hezekiah, Abraham, Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon covenant tradition, and how covenant structures may continue to unfold in modern spiritual development. If you've ever wondered how covenants operate beyond individual belief, how intercession functions spiritually, or how God organizes collective spiritual growth, this lesson offers deep insight and spiritual coherence.
The Good Book Club held a Q&A with acclaimed author and historian John G. Turner to discuss his book "Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet." The discussion was so awesome we had to share it with a wider community! Our book club members asked a wide range of in depth questions and in his answers, John weighs in on the life, teachings, and controversies surrounding the founder of the Latter-day Saint movement, offering a balanced, deeply researched portrait that situates Joseph Smith within the broader currents of American religious history.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
A new MP3 sermon from Alpha and Omega Ministries is now available on SermonAudio with the following details: Title: More from the Salt Lake Debate, then, Joseph Smith's Sermon in the Grove Subtitle: The Dividing Line 2026 Speaker: Dr. James White Broadcaster: Alpha and Omega Ministries Event: Podcast Date: 3/3/2026 Length: 63 min.
Tune into Mormon podcast on Tuesday, March 3rd at 6 PM MT. In this episode, Rebecca and Landon are joined by Patrick Bertch and Dr. John Lundwall to explore the idea that Sidney Rigdon not only founded Mormonism but was the primary author of the Book of Mormon. Patrick shares ground breaking information on the 3 unique voices of the Book of Mormon and takes us through a review of the 7 wordprint studies of the Book of Mormon. These studies point to multiple authorship of the text. The text also contains clues that point to who wrote various parts of the Book of Mormon. After a quick review of Joseph Smith's background, the episode breaks ground by reviewing Sidney Rigdon's life and theorizing that he is vey likely the real founder of Mormonism and the perfect candidate for Book of Mormon authorship. Thank you so much for watching Mormonish Podcast! ***How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here: Mormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast ****WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you'd like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch You can get your own quote to attend our Post-Mormon Celebration Cruise by visiting - https://kheskethtravel.com/post-mormon-celebration-cruise And you can get more info on the cruise by visiting - https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/post-mormon-celebration-cruise/ We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast! Contact Mormonish Podcast: mormonishpodcast@gmail.com #mormonish #lds #mormon #exmormon #postmormon #religion #news, #ldschurch #comeuntochrist #churchofjesuschrist #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints #byu #byui #josephsmith #comefollowme #polygamy #bookofmormon #becauseofhim #hearhim #ldstemple FAIR USE DISCLAIMER All Media in this video (including the thumbnail) is used for the purpose of review and critique. The images in the thumbnail are used as the primary means of visually identifying the subject matter of the video.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Continued listening to the Jacob Hansen/Joe Heschmeyer debate, this time starting Joe's examination of Jacob. Then transitioned into a review of the final major sermon of Joseph Smith, delivered only 11 days before his death in 1844, the "Sermon in the Grove" on the plurality of gods.
In this provocative episode of Unveiling Mormonism, Pastor Bryan challenges the very bedrock of the LDS faith: the necessity of a modern priesthood. By comparing the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' definitions of the Aaronic and Melchizedek offices against the biblical text of the NLT, we explore whether Joseph Smith truly restored an ancient order or created a new organizational hierarchy. From the "toll collectors" of religious systems to the liberating New Testament doctrine of the Priesthood of All Believers, this conversation shifts the focus away from human "keys" and back to the finished, unchangeable work of Jesus Christ.Key Discussion PointsThe Hook: The High Stakes of the MiddlemanReligion often positions itself as the "toll collector" on the bridge between humanity and God. In Mormonism, the priesthood is presented as the essential authority required to access the highest heaven. We ask the "edgy" question: Does the bridge still need a middleman?The Aaronic Priesthood: Ritual or Bloodline?An investigation into the Old Testament requirements for the Aaronic Priesthood reveals stark differences from the LDS "preparatory" office for 12-year-olds.Lineage: Biblical priests required specific DNA (descendants of Aaron).Maturity: Service began at age 25–30, not 12.Purpose: The biblical office was defined by animal sacrifice—a "shadow" that pointed toward the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus.The Melchizedek Mystery: Who Really Holds the Keys?In the New Testament, the Melchizedek Priesthood isn't a category of office for thousands of men; it is a unique, untransferable ($aparabatos$) office held by Jesus alone. Because Jesus lives forever, He requires no successor or local "holder" of His authority.The Priesthood of All Believers: No More MiddlemenExploring the radical shift in 1 Peter 2:9, where the "royal priesthood" is extended to every believer—regardless of gender, age, or status. The tearing of the Temple veil signaled the end of the religious hierarchy, granting every person direct access to the throne of grace.Closing the Loop: The Finished WorkThe bridge to God isn't built of "worthiness interviews" or human rituals. It was built by the cross. For the follower of Jesus, standing with God is tied to the Savior, not a system.Scriptural Highlights (NLT)Hebrews 7:23-24: "There were many priests under the old system, for death prevented them from remaining in office. But because Jesus lives forever, his priesthood lasts forever."1 Peter 2:9: "But you are not like that, for you are a chosen people. You are royal priests, a holy nation, God's very own possession."--Keyword: PriesthoodWhy Is The “Priesthood Of All Believers” So Important?What Is the Melchizedek Priesthood in Mormonism?How Does the Mormon Aaronic Priesthood Compare to the Bible?The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now
RFM blows up one of the most popular apologist theories for how the Book of Mormon can still be divinely inspired . . . even though it contains indisputable elements from Joseph Smith’s 19th Century environment. It’s called “The Expansion Theory.” It was created by Blake Ostler. And Mr. Ostler is not going to be… Read More »Nuking the Book of Mormon: RFM: 443
RFM blows up one of the most popular apologist theories for how the Book of Mormon can still be divinely inspired . . . even though it contains indisputable elements from Joseph Smith’s 19th Century environment. It’s called “The Expansion Theory.” It was created by Blake Ostler. And Mr. Ostler is not going to be… Read More »Nuking the Book of Mormon: RFM: 443 The post Nuking the Book of Mormon: RFM: 443 appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
Dr Trina Boice is a best-selling author and instructor at BYU-Idaho.I wanted to speak to Trina today about her book 'The Language of Heaven: Hebrew Words Every Latter-day Saint Should Know to Better Understand the Bible, Covenants & God.Some highlights from this episode include the word that takes 'listening' deeper, the word that helps us understand Christ's role better, and why the story of Abraham & Isaac typifies Jesus's great sacrifice.--You can find more of Dr Boice's work at the following links:- https://www.ldsbookuk.com/products/the-language-of-heaven- https://www.instagram.com/trinaboice/?hl=enFollow For All The Saints on social media for updates and inspiring content:www.instagram.com/forallthesaintspodhttps://www.facebook.com/forallthesaintspod/For All The Saints episodes are released every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and more:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDUQg_qZIU&list=UULFFf7vzrJ2LNWmp1Kl-c6K9Qhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3j64txm9qbGVVZOM48P4HS?si=bb31d048e05141f2https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/for-all-the-saints/id1703815271If you have feedback or any suggestions for topics or guests, connect with Ben & Sean via hello@forallthesaints.org or DM on InstagramConversations to Refresh Your Faith.For All The Saints podcast was established in 2023 by Ben Hancock to express his passion and desire for more dialogue around faith, religious belief, and believers' perspectives on the topics of our day. Tune into For All The Saints every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more.Follow For All The Saints on social media for daily inspiration.
Introduction of Generosity (Characteristic Seven): Jevon Perra confirmed the group was reading from the "Manual for Teachers," specifically focusing on the seventh characteristic, generosity. Soo Kim volunteered to read the text defining generosity, which is noted to have a special meaning for the "teacher of God" that is contrary to the world's usual meaning.Definition of Generosity in the Context of the Text: The text defines the world's generosity as "giving away in the sense of giving up," while for the teacher of God, it means "giving away in order to keep". The concept of generosity rests ultimately on trust. The true meaning is considered alien to worldly thinking due to its clear reversal of the world's perspective.Discussion on Keeping Through Giving: Jevon Perra elaborated that non-physical things, such as love, compassion, creativity, curiosity, and courage, are kept through the act of giving them away. Giving away non-physical items is presented as a non-zero-sum game, unlike the physical world where giving away a dollar results in a loss of that dollar.Generosity and True Self-Interest: The text states that the teacher of God is generous out of self-interest, but this does not refer to the world's definition of self, as anything they cannot give away is considered valueless. This self-interest relates to the true self, which seeks abundance, connection, and forgiveness, in contrast to the separate self which operates under a zero-sum game.Atonement and the Recognition of Perfection: Jevon Perra discussed atonement as the recognition of one's inherent perfection and connection, noting it is not about paying a price for sins. Suffering in the perceived world is considered inevitable, but resistance to suffering is what causes pain.Generosity, Trust, and Transcendence: Brian Genovese agreed that trust and giving lead to a feeling of lightness and transcendence, citing the example of the yogi Yogananda. Jevon Perra noted that the search for spiritual achievement can itself become another path of separation if it focuses on external forms.Critique of Religious Structures and Artificial Experiences: Jevon Perra discussed how structures are built around genuine spiritual experiences to keep them alive, referencing figures like Joseph Smith and Muhammad. They argued that trying to artificially transfer someone else's connection with God diminishes the authentic, personal experience.Introduction of Patience (Characteristic Eight): Following the discussion on generosity, the group moved on to the eighth characteristic, patience. Soo Kim read that patience is natural to the teacher of God because they are certain of the outcome, even if the timing is unknown, allowing them to wait without anxiety.Patience and the Illusion of Achievement: Jevon Perra discussed how the world, where the desired outcome has not yet happened, is a world of anxiety because one feels the need to achieve and search. They concluded that the game of life is not about achievement, but about noticing the dynamic that achievement never truly brings lasting contentment.The Illusion of Happiness and Wanting: kristen and Jevon Perra discussed how happiness is often a fleeting sensation of wanting that is temporarily satiated before the desire returns. The concept of contentment is defined as the lack of wants.Noticing and Releasing Anxiety: Jevon Perra explained that the key to moving past these struggles is to notice one's own patterns and to practice releasing inner tension, often through meditative breathing exercises. Jevon Perra stressed that all suffering is self-imposed and is caused by clinging to things one believes are necessary for protection or survival.
Welcome to Part 33 of our series with historian John G. Turner, based on his landmark biography Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.In this episode, we dive into Chapter 26 (titled “David”) and explore one of the most controversial patterns in Joseph Smith's leadership: how he responded when trusted insiders became vocal critics.As pressure mounted from Missouri over the attempted assassination of Lilburn Boggs, Joseph faced internal dissent from figures like John C. Bennett and Orson Pratt. We examine the fallout surrounding Sarah Pratt, the publication of the so-called “Happiness Letter,” and the devastating public denunciation that followed.Was Joseph defending himself from slander? Or was he fighting dirty in the press?Today we discuss the allegations surrounding Nancy Rigdon and Sarah Pratt, Joseph's public rebukes and “Judas” comparisons, the (embarrassing) re-baptism of the Pratts, the role of Brigham Young in publicly acknowledging plural marriage, the publication of John C. Bennett, Joseph's legal maneuvers to avoid extradition, his complicated and evolving stance on slavery, and the larger pattern of character assassination within early Mormonism.We also explore Joseph's interaction with Illinois Governor Thomas Ford, the power of the Nauvoo Charter, and the increasingly emboldened posture of the church leadership as dissent intensified.This is a complex and uncomfortable chapter –one that forces us to wrestle with competing testimonies, public smears, loyalty under pressure, and the high cost of dissent.If you'd like to help keep this project going, please consider donating to support this series here. Your support makes long-form, in-depth historical discussion like this possible!Purchase John Turner's book here.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
In this episode we discuss a litners email where he asks about “the day and the hour” quote attributed to Joseph Smith and how some YouTube voices use it to fuel end times certainty. Gerrit breaks down why this kind of content deserves real skepticism: source quality matters, corroboration matters, and the Joseph Smith Papers exist for a reason. He explains how cherry picked, poorly sourced, or context free quotes can create anxiety, drive clicks, and worst of all, set people up for spiritual whiplash when predictions fail. We had a couple of spots open up on our Standard of Truth Tour to Missouri/Illinois. We meet in Kansas City on Sunday, June 21st, and fly home from St. Louis on Saturday, June 27th. https://standardoftruth.com/tours/tour-missouri-nauvoo-carthage-springfield-st-louis-june-21-27-2026/ Sign up for our free monthly email: https://standardoftruthpodcast.substack.com If you have any questions or possible topics of discussion for upcoming podcasts, please email us at: questions@standardoftruthpodcast.com
n this episode of Chorus in the Chaos, Jack, Grayson, and Blake begin their two-part look at Mormonism by tracing its history from the life of Joseph Smith to the early growth of the movement. They walk through Smith's claimed visions, the story of the golden plates, the role of seer stones, the lost 116 pages, the Book of Mormon's publication, and the conflicts that followed in Missouri and Nauvoo. This episode is focused on the historical narrative and major events that shaped Mormonism's beginnings. In the next episode, the guys will shift to the theology of Mormonism and compare its teachings with biblical Christianity. Connect Website & Blog: www.chorusinthechaos.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chorusinthec... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chorus_in_the_chaos/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Chorusnthechaos Intro/Outro Music (by our good friend Nick Illes): https://open.spotify.com/artist/7tnsQ... Email: chorusinthechaos@email.com Generations Be sure to visit our friends at Generations.org! They've built an incredible library of Christ-centered homeschool curriculum, books, and podcasts — all designed to help your family apply the Bible to every area of life. History, science, worldview, you name it — it all points back to Christ. Use the code CHORUS at checkout for 15% off your order.
In this episode, we step into one of the most provocative and uncomfortable chapters ever written about Joseph Smith — “The Don Juan of Nauvoo,” from Dr. W. Wyl's 1886 exposé. These are not modern critics looking backward with hindsight. These are men and women living in Utah in the late 1800s — people who lived through Nauvoo, who knew Joseph personally, who saw the culture firsthand, and who were willing to share their memories of Joseph's behavior with women. Their recollections paint a portrait very different from the sanitized image often presented today. We will read their words directly. Their observations. Their accusations. Their recollections of Joseph's charisma, his influence, and his interactions with women in Nauvoo. This episode isn't about speculation. It's about historical memory — and how Joseph Smith's contemporaries understood him. You'll hear: How Joseph was perceived by those who lived in Nauvoo The reputation he carried among insiders What Utah Saints privately said decades later Why these accounts were preserved and published And how charisma, authority, and attraction intersected in Nauvoo Whether you see Joseph Smith as prophet, fraud, or something in between, these firsthand recollections provide a window into how he was experienced by those who lived in his shadow. Donate to Mormonism Live:https://mormonismlive.org/Donate-To-Mormonism-Live/ If you need support navigating a faith transition or spiritual trauma, coaching and support groups are available at: https://awakenandthrive.org/
Are leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints prophets and apostles in a true biblical sense? Was Joseph Smith a true prophet? We believe the answer to both questions is "No." Tune in this week to find out more. Watchman Fellowship has published free articles on our blog related to this topic. Visit and subscribe to our new blog today! Be sure to check out these articles. Testing Joseph SmithDiscerning False ChristsThis week we continue our conversation with former Latter-day Saint and the great, great granddaughter of Brigham Young, Sandra Tanner. Sandra shares her wisdom and experience from her decades-long research of the LDS Church. Her insights will help equip you to be better prepared to engage your Mormon friends, neighbors or missionaries who come to your door. If you are enjoying Apologetics Profile, be sure to leave us a nice review on your favorite podcast platform! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Brett Horrocks is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who has an inspiring faith journey and some fascinating insights into helping a US President speak to Latter-day Saints.I wanted to speak to Brett to understand a bit more about his story as someone who has gone from having no interest in the Church to working with 40 young priests with different challenges and with leading global politicians.Some highlights from this episode include how shovelling snow changed Brett's life, the surprising political opportunity that the Church turned down, and the most common challenges that youth in Utah are facing.--Follow For All The Saints on social media for updates and inspiring content:www.instagram.com/forallthesaintspodhttps://www.facebook.com/forallthesaintspod/For All The Saints episodes are released every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and more:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDUQg_qZIU&list=UULFFf7vzrJ2LNWmp1Kl-c6K9Qhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3j64txm9qbGVVZOM48P4HS?si=bb31d048e05141f2https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/for-all-the-saints/id1703815271If you have feedback or any suggestions for topics or guests, connect with Ben & Sean via hello@forallthesaints.org or DM on InstagramConversations to Refresh Your Faith.For All The Saints podcast was established in 2023 by Ben Hancock to express his passion and desire for more dialogue around faith, religious belief, and believers' perspectives on the topics of our day. Tune into For All The Saints every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more.Follow For All The Saints on social media for daily inspiration.#faith #politics #redemption
I sat down with Justin Francom, an independent Mormon fundamentalist living in Missouri, to discuss his journey from a traditional LDS background to an Independent Mormon fundamentalist. Francom's story is a compelling look at how his search for deeper doctrine can lead a “Jack Mormon” turned missionary into the world of independent fundamentalist. https://youtu.be/6oY7DnOq2Ec Don't miss our other conversations on Mormon fundamentalism: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/fundamentalim/ Path to a Faith Crisis After serving an LDS mission in South Korea and marrying in the temple, Francom experienced a profound “culture shock” within the mainstream LDS Church in Utah. This feeling was exacerbated by changes to the temple ceremony, which left him spiritually unsatisfied. His search for answers led him to the writings of Denver Snuffer, specifically Passing of the Heavenly Gift. However, Snuffer's thesis—that the Restoration had essentially failed—left Francom feeling cynical and depressed. Finding Light in “Lost” Doctrines Francom’s path took a turn when he discovered the works of fundamentalist author Ogden Kraut. Unlike Snuffer's work, Kraut's writings on “lost” history and doctrines, such as prayer circles in the home and the Adam-God doctrine, rebolstered his faith and testimony. Francom describes receiving a personal spiritual witness of these doctrines, which created a wedge between him and mainstream LDS leadership, whom he felt had been untruthful about Church history. Rejecting “One-Manism” A central theme of Francom's transition is his rejection of “one-man doctrines“—the belief that priesthood authority is a rigid control structure funneled through a single living prophet. After investigating various groups like the AUB and the Peterson group, Francom found that they often emulated the same authoritarian behaviors he found troubling in the LDS Church. This led him to remain an independent Mormon fundamentalist, believing that the true vision of the Restoration was to create a “nation of prophets and priests.“ Reimagining Priesthood Authority as Mormon Fundamentalist The summary of Francom’s theological shift concludes with his introduction to a new interpretation of Section 132 via Sean Anderson. He argues that the “one man” referred to in scripture relates to the serial nature of conferring the fullness of the priesthood (the second anointing) rather than a restriction on how many people can hold the authority at once. By viewing priesthood as something to be perpetuated and shared rather than controlled, Francom finds a way to maintain his testimony of Joseph Smith and the temple while remaining outside of traditional institutional boundaries. What do you think?
Welcome to Part 32 of our series with Dr. John G Turner, based on his new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.In this episode, Dr. Turner response directly to modern claims denying Joseph Smith's plural marriage to Sarah Ann Whitney. We revisit Chapter 26 of his book, carefully examining the historical record surrounding the 1842 letter often associated with Sarah Ann Whitney, the language of sealing and “fulness of blessings,” the land deed, and the broader documentary context of Nauvoo-era plural marriage.We also engage with alternative interpretations, including arguments that question whether the letter refers to polygamy at all. Drawing on Turner's scholarship as well as Karen Hyatt's analysis, this discussion models how historians weight evidence, examine primary sources, and wrestle with ambiguity. What constitutes strong documentation? How do historians interpret silence, denials, and later public statements? And how should we think about the broader context of Joseph Smith's practice of plural marriage in Nauvoo?Along the way, we explore the legal crisis surrounding the alleged assassination attempt on Lilburn Boggs, the Nauvoo writ of habeas corpus, the Sarah Ann Whitney Letter, Public denials and private sealings, sham marriages and the case of Joseph Kingsbury, documentation involving the Partridge sisters and why serious historical inquiry requires both skepticism and careful contextualization.We invite you to read Chapter 26 alongside this discussion and let us know your thoughts in the comments. To read Karen Hyatt's interpretation download her free book here: https://josephtoldthetruth.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Woe-Unto-You-Scribes.pdfTo watch Karen Hyatt's video, “The Worst Love Letter… EVER!” click here.Let us know in the comments how you interpret the evidence.Please purchase the book here.To support this series please donate here. One half of all donations will go to Dr. Turner for as long as he is participating in the series.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Here on The LDS Mission Podcast, Episode 244 – Creating Clarity, we talk about what to do when you feel stuck, confused, directionless, or unsure about your next step on the mission, in college, or in life. I share in real time what it looked like for me to create clarity while recording this very episode, and why clarity rarely comes before movement. Whether you're deciding if you should serve a mission, navigating a hard transfer, choosing a major, or wondering what's next after you come home, this episode explores faith, agency, uncertainty, growth, discomfort, and how to trust God while stepping into the unknown. We dive into the powerful analogy of stepping into the forest before you can find the clearing, and why your lower brain's discomfort is not a red flag—but often a sign you're on the verge of expansion. I talk about how clarity comes through momentum, why discomfort doesn't disqualify you, how to stop letting "I don't know" shut you down, and how Joseph Smith's First Vision models movement before revelation. We also explore the difference between advice and tools, internal preparation through Mission Prep Plus, and how practicing faith one step at a time builds confidence, peace, and direction. If you've been waiting for certainty before taking action, this episode will remind you that you only need the next step. Discomfort isn't proof you're on the wrong path—it may be proof you're growing. Join me here on The LDS Mission Podcast, Episode 244 – Creating Clarity, as we learn how movement creates the clarity we've been searching for. As always, if you found this episode helpful, I want to invite you to subscribe if you aren't already, share this episode with your friends and missionaries you know, and write a review. I know this work will help LDS missionaries around the world and it would mean so much to me if you did. Until next week my friends. Website | Instagram | Facebook 5 Ways to Process Any Less-Than Happy Mission Memories Article: HERE Get the Full Show Notes and Text/PDF Transcripts: HERE Free PDF Download: Podcast Roadmap Free PDF Download: Preparing Missionary Cheat Sheet Free Training for Preparing Missionaries: Change Your Mission with this One Tool RM Transition Free Video Series: 3 Tools to Help RMs in Their Transition Home Free Guide: 5 Tips to Help Any Returning Missionary Schedule a Free Strategy Call: Click Here
In the February 19, 2026 episode of The Interpreter Insights Podcast, our host Martin Tanner describes how Mark Smith, PhD, Harvard researcher, now a professor at NYU, in his book The Early History of God: Yahweh and Other Deities in Ancient Israel, demonstrates ancient Israel, and early books of the Bible describe God (YHWH) as a divine human. This looks like Joseph Smith's descriptions of God in his accounts of the First Vision. The post Interpreter Insights Podcast — February 19, 2026 first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.
Episode 2.84In this episode, Michael and Zach examine a foundational question: Is Mormonism a denomination of Christianity, or a distinct religion? The discussion moves beyond sincerity or moral character and focuses on theological definitions and historical continuity.They begin by clarifying key terms—what constitutes historic, creedal Christianity, and what defines a denomination. From there, the conversation analyzes LDS primary sources, particularly on the doctrine of God, the nature of the Godhead, and the concept of monotheism. While Mormonism uses Christian vocabulary, it explicitly rejects Nicene Trinitarianism and affirms three distinct divine beings united in purpose rather than essence.The episode also explores Joseph Smith's restoration narrative, the claim of a Great Apostasy, and the logical implications of declaring historic Christian creeds “an abomination.” Further distinctions are examined in LDS teachings on pre-mortal existence, eternal marriage, exaltation, and the nature of salvation.Key questions addressed include:• What makes a group a “denomination” rather than a separate religion?• Is shared terminology the same as shared theology?• Can monotheism be redefined without altering Christianity's foundation?• How does the LDS restoration claim reshape the entire Christian narrative?The conclusion is not rooted in polemics, but in doctrinal clarity: by its own authoritative teachings, Mormonism departs from historic Christianity at foundational points concerning God, Christ, and salvation. The disagreement is not secondary—it concerns the core of the faith itself.Find our videocast here: https://youtu.be/nLPVsd6obkAMerch here: https://take-2-podcast.printify.me/Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/reakt-music/deep-stoneLicense code: 2QZOZ2YHZ5UTE7C8Find more Take 2 Theology content at http://www.take2theology.com
Students at Morehouse College recently raised concerns over a newly unveiled painting of Joseph Smith to be displayed in the Martin Luther King International Chapel gallery on campus. The artwork, intended as part of an interfaith partnership highlighting individuals who champion racial equality, quickly became the center of a student-led pushback and dialogue about representation, historical memory, and institutional values. Some students questioned why Smith—founder The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—was selected for prominent display at a historically Black college, particularly given the LDS Church's racist past, restrictions on Black members holding the priesthood prior to 1978, and Smith's own views and writings. For most students, the issue was not merely about a single painting, but about the broader symbolism of honoring religious figures whose institutions and they themselves have complicated histories regarding race. Mormonish Podcast is joined by Alonzo Brinson, 40th President of the Martin Luther King International Chapel Assistants Program to discuss the developing situation at Morehouse College.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Returning to Jackson County: A History of the Temple Lot Church Rick Bennett sat down down with historian R Jean Addams in 2020 to explore the fascinating history of the Church of Christ (Temple Lot), often referred to as the “Hedrickites.” Addams, whose wife is a descendant of the sect’s founder, Granville Hedrick, provides a deep dive into how this small group returned to Independence, Missouri, to reclaim the original temple site dedicated by Joseph Smith. https://youtu.be/vBmd_8RCktE Key Historical Moments: • Return to Missouri: While many restoration groups moved west or stayed in Illinois, Granville Hedrick received a revelation in 1864 to return to Jackson County, Missouri, in 1867. His brother, John Hedrick, was the first to return in 1865, and the group began purchasing the lots that make up the specific temple site. • Temple Lot Case: In the 1890s, the RLDS Church (now Community of Christ) sued the Temple Lot church to seize ownership of the property. In a surprising twist of history, the Utah-based LDS Church secretly funded the Temple Lot's legal fees to help them retain the land and prevent the RLDS church from winning. • Trials by Fire: The church has faced significant physical challenges, including arson attacks in roughly 1900 and 1990 that destroyed their buildings. Additionally, an attempt to build a temple in 1929 created a massive excavation site that stalled during the Great Depression; the “ugly hole” remained until the city of Independence filled it in 1946, reportedly after it caught the attention of city officials who wanted to cover the hole when Harry Truman returned home to Independence from the US Presidenty. Unique Beliefs and Practices: • Scripture: The Church of Christ (Temple Lot) rejects the Doctrine and Covenants, viewing the changes made to revelations as unauthorized; instead, they adhere strictly to the 1833 Book of Commandments. • Leadership: They do not have a single church president but are led by a Council of Apostles. • Worship: Their services include the use of a “common cup” for the sacrament (restricted to baptized members) and the practice of the entire congregation kneeling for prayers. Women generally do not speak or pray during worship services. Current Status: Despite their small size—estimated at roughly 1,000 members in the U.S. and Canada—the church maintains active missionary work, with growing congregations in the Yucatan, the Philippines, and Kenya. They remain the guardians of the physical “Temple Lot” in Independence to this day. Jean has written “Upon the Temple Lot.” Check out the book for more information.
In this episode Bryan connects the dots between modern prophetic scandals and early Mormonism, exposing how unchecked authority and “new revelation” can lead to deception, cover-up culture, and spiritual harm. This episode warns all believers to test everything against the Word of God, even in the Christian church. --The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Cover-Up Culture and the Modern Prophetic MovementImagine believing a leader hears directly from God—only to discover manipulation, deception, and hidden sin behind the scenes. Recent scandals in parts of the modern prophetic movement have exposed troubling patterns of spiritual abuse, cover-ups, and unchecked authority.In this episode, we connect the dots between today's prophetic controversies and similar patterns from church history—particularly early Mormonism. This isn't about attacking charismatic Christians. It's about recognizing red flags that can emerge whenever leaders claim special revelation and avoid accountability.The goal? Spiritual discernment. Protecting your faith. Keeping your eyes on Jesus.What We Cover in This Episode1. What Is the Modern “Prophetic Movement”?In some charismatic and Pentecostal circles, certain leaders claim to receive fresh, specific revelations from God. With social media and online platforms, these voices now have massive reach and influence.Recent investigations have exposed:Data mining disguised as prophecyManipulation through spiritual languageAllegations of moral failure and abuseInstitutional efforts to protect reputations over victimsThese patterns aren't new.2. The Historical Parallel: Early MormonismIn the 1800s, Joseph Smith claimed prophetic authority and new revelation. Over time, a culture developed that:Shielded leadership from accountabilitySuppressed inconvenient truthsProtected institutional reputationMinimized or denied moral failuresThe release of the Gospel Topics Essays in 2013 revealed how long some historical realities had been obscured.The lesson? Cover-up culture thrives wherever leaders claim unquestionable authority.The Core Issue: Authority and “New Revelation”The connective tissue between past and present movements is this idea:When someone claims direct revelation from God that overrides Scripture or bypasses accountability, danger follows.Scripture never elevates...
In this episode Bryan connects the dots between modern prophetic scandals and early Mormonism, exposing how unchecked authority and “new revelation” can lead to deception, cover-up culture, and spiritual harm. This episode warns all believers to test everything against the Word of God, even in the Christian church. --The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Cover-Up Culture and the Modern Prophetic MovementImagine believing a leader hears directly from God—only to discover manipulation, deception, and hidden sin behind the scenes. Recent scandals in parts of the modern prophetic movement have exposed troubling patterns of spiritual abuse, cover-ups, and unchecked authority.In this episode, we connect the dots between today's prophetic controversies and similar patterns from church history—particularly early Mormonism. This isn't about attacking charismatic Christians. It's about recognizing red flags that can emerge whenever leaders claim special revelation and avoid accountability.The goal? Spiritual discernment. Protecting your faith. Keeping your eyes on Jesus.What We Cover in This Episode1. What Is the Modern “Prophetic Movement”?In some charismatic and Pentecostal circles, certain leaders claim to receive fresh, specific revelations from God. With social media and online platforms, these voices now have massive reach and influence.Recent investigations have exposed:Data mining disguised as prophecyManipulation through spiritual languageAllegations of moral failure and abuseInstitutional efforts to protect reputations over victimsThese patterns aren't new.2. The Historical Parallel: Early MormonismIn the 1800s, Joseph Smith claimed prophetic authority and new revelation. Over time, a culture developed that:Shielded leadership from accountabilitySuppressed inconvenient truthsProtected institutional reputationMinimized or denied moral failuresThe release of the Gospel Topics Essays in 2013 revealed how long some historical realities had been obscured.The lesson? Cover-up culture thrives wherever leaders claim unquestionable authority.The Core Issue: Authority and “New Revelation”The connective tissue between past and present movements is this idea:When someone claims direct revelation from God that overrides Scripture or bypasses accountability, danger follows.Scripture never elevates...
The Bible gives us a standard by which we may discern truth from falsehood, especially when someone proclaims themselves to be a prophet (Deuteronomy 13; 18; Matthew 24:24; 1 John 4:1; 1 Peter 5:8; Ephesians 6). Watchman Fellowship has published free articles on our blog related to this topic. Visit and subscribe to our new blog today! Be sure to check out these articles. Testing Joseph SmithDiscerning False ChristsThis week and next on Apologetics Profile, we were privileged once again to have been able to interview former Latter-day Saint and the great, great granddaughter of Brigham Young, Sandra Tanner in Utah this past fall. Sandra shares her wisdom and experience from her decades-long research of the LDS Church. Her insights will help equip you to be better prepared to engage your Mormon friends, neighbors or missionaries who come to your door. If you are enjoying Apologetics Profile, be sure to leave us a nice review on your favorite podcast platform! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Take advantage of classes on symbolism from Michelle Gateau and on the Bible from Kerry Muhlestein. All of this is available on our Patreon Website for the cost of a lunch at your favorite fast food place. Just go to https://www.patreon.com/c/EnlightenEdgeEDU and take advantage of our amazing content! In this episode from four years ago Kerry and his co-host Lamar Newmeyer explore the story of the Book of Abraham. They tell the story of how Egyptian papyri got from Egypt to Joseph Smith. They explore what we do and don't know about the translation process of the Book of Abraham. They talk about what we know about the priest who owned some of the papyri Joseph Smith acquired and how surprisingly his interests match the Book of Abraham. Kerry explains some important elements of Facsimile One. They provide a lot of other information about the Book of Abraham. They mention some websites that may be helpful for you: https://bookofabraham.org/ https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/introduction-book-of-abraham-61-4 https://pearlofgreatpricecentral.org/ We are grateful for our executive producers, P. Franzen, J. Parke, D. Watson, B. Van Blerkom, the Dawsons, M. Cannon, M. Rosema, B. Fisher, J. Beardall, D. Anderson, and H. Umphlett, and for all our generous and loyal donors. We are also very grateful for all our Patreon members. We are so thankful for Beehive Broadcast for producing the podcast and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.
Welcome to Part 31 in our ongoing series with Dr. John Turner, based on his new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.Today we are diving into Chapter 31, “World on Fire,” and the explosive years 1842-1843 in Nauvoo –a period marked by scandal, secrecy, political pressure, and deep internal crisis.In this episode we cover the rise and fall of John C. Bennett and the “Spiritual Wifery” scandal. We also discuss the attempted assassination of Lilburn Boggs and the role of Porter Rockwell. We also cover aspects of polygamy, namely the Nancy Rigdon controversy and Joseph Smith's failed proposal, the stories of Sarah Pratt and Sarah Ann Whitney (including the letter sent to the Whitneys in Joseph Smith's own handwriting with specific instructions to burn the letter), and Emma Smith and the growing concerns in the Relief Society as well as Nauvoo at large.We also examine how Nauvoo struggled to manage these crises, how accusations and denials shaped public perception, and why John Turner calls this moment a true “world on fire.”If you'd like to help keep this project going, please consider donating to support this series. Your support makes long-form, in-depth historical discussion like this possible!Please purchase the book here.To support this series please donate here. One half of all donations will go to Dr. Turner for as long as he is participating in the series.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
“What's the best argument against Mormonism?” This question opens a discussion on the key points of contention between Catholicism and Mormon beliefs. Additionally, the conversation touches on the evidence of divine protection for the magisterium and offers guidance for an ex-Mormon navigating discussions about biblical reinterpretations, such as baptism for the dead. Join the Catholic Answers Live Club Newsletter Invite our apologists to speak at your parish! Visit Catholicanswersspeakers.com Questions Covered: 05:20 – What's the best argument against Mormonism? 18:15 – What is evidence of divine protection for the magisterium and the Catholic Church as a whole? 35:41 – I'm an ex-Mormon in OCIA. How do I talk to my family about the bible verses that Joseph Smith and reinterpreted such as baptism for the dead.
Welcome to Episode 30 of our series The Joseph Smith Podcast with Dr. John Turner where we discuss chapters from his new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.”In this episode, we dive further into Chapter 24 (“Upper Rooms”) from John Turner's work and unpack the origins of the LDS Relief Society in May of 1842 –right in the middle of Joseph Smith's secret practice of polygamy. We explore whether the Relief Society was meant to empower women, function as a stepping stone to priesthood-like authority, or help manage rumors and moral fallout from Nauvoo's growing scandals.From Emma Smith's complicated position, to whispered accusations, to the infamous “Happiness Letter,” this conversation traces how secrecy, power, and polygamy collide –and what it all says about Joseph Smith's character. We also look at whistleblowers, public denials, internal investigations (or lack thereof), and how victims and critics were treated when scandals became impossible to contain. This is part Mormon history, part true crime, and part moral reckoning –with big questions about leadership, secrecy, and accountability. Please purchase the book here.To support this series please donate here. One half of all donations will go to Dr. Turner for as long as he is participating in the series.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
The Murder Of Joseph SmithJump To The Ad-Free Safe House EditionEpisode 466 is the story of John C. Elliott, the Ohio woodcutter turned political assassin who rode 500 miles to execute a prophet. Hiding as a schoolmaster, Elliott was arrested and set free by Joseph Smith himself. Discover the man history forgot.Hear More Stories About CAPERS AND CONSPIRACIESBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-historian--2909311/support.You can pay more if you want to, but rent at the Safe House is still just a buck a week, and you can get access to over 400 ad-free episodes from the dusty vault, Safe House Exclusives, direct access to the Boss, and whatever personal services you require.We invite you to our other PULPULAR MEDIA podcasts:If disaster is more your jam, check out CATASTROPHIC CALAMITIES, telling the stories of famous and forgotten tragedies of the 19th and 20th centuries. What could go wrong? Everything!For brand-new tales in the old clothes from the golden era of popular literature, give your ears a treat with PULP MAGAZINES with two new stories every week.
Was Joseph Smith's relationship with Fanny Alger an early plural marriage, a sexless sealing, or a scandalous sexual affair? Long before Nauvoo polygamy, secret sealings, or theological justifications, there was Fanny Alger; a teenage girl living in Joseph and Emma Smith's home in Kirtland, Ohio. When the relationship was discovered, it triggered scandal, apostasy, and… Read More »Joseph Smith & Fanny Alger: Barely Scraping By
A new Netflix documentary on the 2002 kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart in Salt Lake City by Brian David Mitchell and Wanda Barzee (all Mormons) has been released. To what extent was this kidnapping influenced by Joseph Smith and/or Mormonism? Join John, Samantha, Alyssa, and Taylor as they explore the Mormon connections to Elizbeth Smart's kidnapping.___________________YouTubeShow NotesAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Did Joseph Smith's understanding of God come through divine revelation — or did it evolve alongside his education? In this episode of Mormonism Live, we examine one of the most important and least discussed developments in early Mormon history: the dramatic shift in Joseph Smith's theology of the Godhead. Using early Mormon scriptures, historical documents,… Read More »Mormonism’s God Revolution
This is part one of a two-part recap!Below Deck Down Under returns with a new crew and a boat full of unhinged Housewives. The glasses are flying, the tears are flowing, and the screams are screaming. Hold on to your nipple covers, it's going to be a season to remember. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This is part 2 of a two-part recap!Below Deck Down Under returns with a new crew and a boat full of unhinged Housewives. The glasses are flying, the tears are flowing, and the screams are screaming. Hold on to your nipple covers, it's going to be a season to remember. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Why do some people feel their shelf of unanswered questions eventually breaks? In this Y Religion episode, Professor Jared Halverson discusses his article "Broken Shelves or Continuing Revelation? Extending the Shelf Life of Faith" and reframes the idea of a faith shelf into three shelves—revelation past, present, and future. He explains how remembering God's past mercies, engaging in current spiritual learning, and patiently awaiting future revelation can strengthen faith and prevent spiritual stagnation. Through scripture, storytelling, and years of working with students in faith crises, Dr. Halverson offers a shelf-by-shelf process for extending the shelf life of our faith. Publications: "Broken Shelves or Continuing Revelation? Extending the Shelf Life of Faith," Religious Educator, 25.3 (2024) "Just War and the Causes of Christ," in This Great and Lasting War: Studies in Alma 45–63, Religious Studies Center (2025) "'Covering the Seers': Antivisionary Skepticism in the Days of Joseph Smith," in Joseph Smith as a Visionary: Heavenly Manifestations in the Latter Days, Religious Studies Center (2025) "The Way, the Truth, and the Way to Truth: harmony in Pursuit of Orthodoxy," in I Glory in My Jesus: Understanding Christ in the Book of Mormon, Religious Studies Center (2023) Click here to learn more about Jared Halverson
Welcome back to our Joseph Smith Podcast series with historian Dr. John Turner!This is Episode 29, where we dive into Chapter 24, titled “Upper Rooms,” from John Turner's new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.In this episode, we focus on Nauvoo in 1842 –a pivotal year when Freemasonry, the Relief Society, secrecy, and the earliest forms of the Nauvoo Endowment ceremony all intersect.The central question we wrestle with is this: To what extent did Freemasonry shape Joseph Smith's use of secrecy –and was it intended to protect his authority and reputation?We explore the anti-Masonic climate of early America and the murder of William Morgan, why the Book of Mormon was once read as an “anti-Masonic Bible,” Joseph Smith's embrace of Freemasonry, the founding of the Nauvoo Masonic Lodge, Parallels between Masonic rituals and the original Nauvoo Endowment, the secret oaths, handshakes, signs, tokens, and penalties, and Joseph Smith's evolving theology around power and exaltation.This conversation is historically grounded, candid, and essential for anyone trying to understand how Mormon temple theology developed –and why it still matters today!Show NotesYouTubeMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord
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Professor Danny Ricks continues to examine Moses 7, showing how Enoch's sorrow turns to peace and hope through Jesus Christ and covenant faith.YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/W9iEsGXcmmwALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTESfollowHIM website: https://www.followHIM.coFREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKSNew Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBookOld Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBookBook of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBook WEEKLY NEWSLETTER https://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/followHIMpodcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastTIMECODE:00:00 Part 2 - Brother Danny Ricks2:31 Youth Theme: Walk with Me5:04 Meridian of time?7:34 Losing a mother10:40 Covenantal power13:15 Veil of darkness16:01 Lame Duck President Satan17:41 What did President Oaks teach recently?19:21 Joy and sadness23:06 Like a movie24:20 Becoming like Jesus and Danny29:02 Joseph Smith preaches compassion32:35 Righteousness from heaven36:30 Best kept secret38:52 Savior's mercy42:28 Can't save them, love them45:11 Weakness vs rebellion47:21 Testimony of the power of Jesus Christ to heal52:02 End of Part 2 - Brother Danny RicksThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, SponsorDavid & Verla Sorensen: SponsorsDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: ProducerKyle Nelson: Marketing, SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show NotesWill Stoughton: Video EditorKrystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, WebsiteAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsAmelia Kabwika: Portuguese TranscriptsHeather Barlow: Communications DirectorSydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design "Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com