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Finding words in hard times: the podcast is stories and tools from a hospital chaplain that help you be more comfortable as you help others in hard times. Jon Swanson, PhD, draws on years of talking with people in hospitals and other places. He also writes the weekly newsletter Finding words in hard times (thisishard.substack.com).

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    • Dec 4, 2024 LATEST EPISODE
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    110 – 7 hints to navigate grief during the holidays

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2024 5:18


    Holidays and holiday gatherings can be challenging in the best of times. Not every family is a Hallmark movie. In times of grief, they are more complicated. I understand that sense of complication. One Christmas, Nancy and I gave small gifts to my family. They were the tiny-size baby food jars with a little note […]

    109 – Remembering your loved one is normal

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2024


    Sometimes we are surprised when simple things remind us of our loved one. And remind us of our loss. But what if these moments aren't because something is wrong with us (I mean other than the main thing that's wrong.) The answer to these sudden reminders is that there isn't anything wrong with us. There […]

    108 – Taking a break doesn't mean your grief is over.

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2024 4:39


    Even when a death is recent, sometimes people take a break from crying. Sometimes people laugh. These “breaks” don't mean, however, that grief is over. That we are “all better.” Far from it. We aren't disappointing anyone if we have a break from the hard work of grief. We are surviving. And if anyone says, […]

    107 – You don't need to be strong for anyone else

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2024 4:39


    Most of us have been told that we need to be strong at the time of loss.  We hear a voice telling us to be strong for the kids, for our mom, for the family. But what if we don't need to be strong for anyone? This week I'll talk about that and read a […]

    106 – It’s okay that you can’t think right now.

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2024 5:20


    Almost every time I'm in a room after a death (I'm a hospital chaplain), someone will talk about not being able to think clearly. A name will disappear from their memory, a story will lose its way. In today's episode we'll talk a little about that. And I read from my book, This is Hard, […]

    105 – A working list for life after a difficult diagnosis.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2024 12:12


    A few years back, a friend got a difficult diagnosis in her family. She reached out to see if I had any suggestions of what might be helpful to her family. Though we know that death is inevitable, at these moments we realize that it's nearer than expected. This episode isn't about giving up. Instead, […]

    104 – What grieving looks like – The Dual Process Model

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2024 26:02


    The Dual Process Model of Coping with Bereavement has been guiding how I help people for more than a year. In this podcast episode, I describe the model and talk about why it's helpful. If you are looking for a way to describe what is going on in the days and weeks and lifetime after […]

    103 – What I learned when I asked what grieving people found helpful

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2024 16:55


    In August, 2022, I created a survey for people who had lost a loved one. I asked four core questions about their experience after a death: what they found helpful in 1) what people said or 2) did or 3) gave in grief support materials, and 4) what people wish someone had said or done. […]

    102 – I hope this is a good time to talk about timing.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2024 17:02


    It's time to talk about timing. Finding words in hard times means paying attention to time and timing. I talk about my history in rhetoric, about Jesus being great with timing in conversations about loss, and my idea of seconds, minutes, days, weeks, months, years, lifetimes. Make some tea or some coffee and let's get […]

    101 – Frameworks help more than formulas – An interview with Rob Hatch

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2024 28:08


    Rob Hatch is a coach, a writer, and a friend of mine. And so we had a conversation. We talk about frameworks and Rob's newest book, Success Frames, we unpack why “This is hard” and “remember the best time” are helpful frameworks for conversations. We talk about choosing the kind of attention we want to […]

    100 – This is hard – on finding a helpful voice.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2024 13:34


    Here it is. The first episode of “Finding Words in Hard Times – the podcast.” In which I talk about why “this is hard” is an important thing to say. And I talk about the feel of this podcast. Make some tea or some coffee and let's get started. Mentioned in this episode. Clarissa Moll […]

    Finding words in hard times, the trailer

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2023 5:18


    Welcome to Finding Words in Hard Times: the podcast. Where we provide stories and tools to help you be more comfortable as you help others in hard times. In this preview episode, we talk about why I'm taking my experience as a hospital chaplain, a college professor, a pastor, and a writer into this new […]

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