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Session 48 Postbac, Masters, and SMP programs have pretty significant differences, from the degree conferred to financial aid eligibility, etc. Pick wisely! If you haven’t yet, please check out all our other podcasts on Meded Media as you’re trying to get as many resources as you can to help you along this premed journey. Did you struggle in your undergrad classes? Or did you major in something completely random and you never took any science courses and now you need them? How do you determine what's the best path forward versus a "postbac" program or a Masters Program in Biomedical Sciences? (There's also that which is called Special Masters Program or SMP.) So, what's the difference? [01:15] What's the Difference Between Postbac and Master's Programs Q: Which one will prove to the admissions committees that I can handle the coursework? Is a postbac program good enough? Or does it have to be this Masters Program in hard sciences like Biomedical Sciences or Masters in Microbiology? (Masters in Public Health is not considered a hard science.) A: The difference is that one is a Master's degree and one isn't. Postbac programs historically are programs affiliated either separately form an institution. There are a lot of private postbac programs out there now while there are some programs that are part of the university. There's also a postbac program for nontraditional students looking to improve their grades or are switching from another career so they need to take all the sciences. At the core of a postbac program or a masters program, they both do the same thing. They're both there to help improve or add to your science GPA. Medical school is hard. There are a lot of sciences. If you can't get a good science GPA then you haven't proven to yourself or the admissions committee that you can handle the coursework. The last they want to do is accept a student who is not going to finish school. [03:35] Which One to Choose: Federal vs. Private Loans Master's program is a degree program which you can get federal financial aid for. Postbac programs are not degree-programs, which means you don't get a degree at the end. Some postbac programs give you a certificate but the certificate these days might not qualify itself for financial aid. This being said, you have to just do your research and follow up with them. Private loans are to be avoided at all cost. They're not very flexible. For instance, they don't care if you have problems in the future. When you get federal loans as you go through medical school and residency training, they are very flexible with how you pay back the loans. You have a lot more leeway if any issues come up. As you're looking at these different options, think about federal versus private loans. [05:10] Formal Postbac versus Do-It -Yourself Postbac Think about whether you need to do a formal postbac versus a do-it-yourself postbac. You don't have to do a formal postbac. Formal postbac programs are super expensive. One of the tricks for a do-it-yourself postbac is to tell them you want a second degree. Go and apply as a degree-seeking student and just don't finish the degree. [06:00] Master's Program versus Postbac Programs A Master's program is going to give you a Master's degree. A lot of people will choose this being the safer bet. You have a Master's degree now. Just in case medicine doesn't work out, now you have a master's degree to lean back on. A lot of these master's programs are postbac programs that are just wrapped in a pretty exterior of a master's program. This means they're there to improve your sciences, prepare you for the MCAT, and get you ready for medical school. This is what an SMP does as well. One of the biggest differences is that on your application, a postbac program includes undergrad level courses that help you increase your undergrad GPA. If you have a poor undergrad GPA and you take Master's courses, your undergrad GPA is going to look terrible. Hopefully, you have a good Master's GPA to improve on that. If you're struggling with your undergrad GPA, it may behoove you to do more of a regular postbac. Your postbac courses are going to be included in your undergrad GPA. This may boost you up over that 3.0 threshold. [08:50] Crush It! Ultimately, no matter which one you pick, the goal for any of these is to crush them the best you can. Do not go into this process with a poor GPA from undergrad and continue the same mistakes that you make. Otherwise, it's going to prove you can't handle the coursework. This is the last thing you want to do. Links: Meded Media
Session 54 In this episode, Ryan talks about how you can improve your medical school application where he touches on some points such as postbac courses, clinical experience, and international clinical volunteering. Your questions, answered here on the OldPreMeds Podcast. Ryan again dives into the forums over at OldPreMeds.org where you can ask questions, get answers, and participate with other students. OldPreMeds Question of the Week: Poster has the following credentials: 3.0 undergrad GPA 3.8 Master's GPA in Health Administration 28 on old MCAT (now studying for a year and hopes to get a 510+ on the new one 3+ years of research experience as a lab technician for a medical school but they have a 3.25 undergrad GPA cutoff 2 shadowing experiences Clinical volunteering with 3-week international trip and 25 hours in emergency department This student is taking some postbac courses this upcoming semester including advanced biochem and advanced genetics and maybe an O chem retake. How can you best utilize my time to improve my application when you work full time and you're planning to apply this upcoming cycle entering 2018 class? Here are the insights from Ryan: Master's degrees don't really have a huge effect on your application especially Health Administration GPA because it's not a "hard sciences." More postbac classes, better undergrad GPA Look into taking more postbac classes to help boost your undergrad GPA. Remember, postbac classes are undergrad GPA courses so they would affect your undergrad GPA. These would be listed separately in the application but they will be combined into your compete undergrad GPA. Shadowing experiences and clinical volunteering Two shadowing experiences wouldn't be a lot unless they are long term. You need a good 25-30 hours of shadowing or a little bit more as a minimum. International trip is okay although a lot of medical schools don't really like international clinical volunteering. It's actually debatable whether it helps your application or not because it's seen as unnecessary. More than your stats Your application is much more than just your stats since it includes everything about you.. Your personal statement is huge as well as your extracurriculars and how you described them. Major takeaway from this episode: Get enough clinical experience. Get a great MCAT score. Think about some more classes to bump up your undergrad GPA. Links and Other Resources: The Premed Years Session 171: Reapplying to Med School - What You Need to Know to Improve OldPreMeds.org