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Empathetically Apathetic is a podcast hosted by two therapists who care a lot and not at all. Madeleine and Rachel are sisters who talk about a range of topics from mental health to social justice to death and dying. Yes, they are both really mental health therapists. No, this is not therapy. But listen in, and you might find something therapeutic about it!

Madeleine and Rachel


    • Feb 1, 2023 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 1h 11m AVG DURATION
    • 23 EPISODES


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    Do Better

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2023 59:36


    We've all had our moments where we try to do better. But what does that look like? In this episode, we explore this bigger question and ponder our own morality. If you like this episode and others follow and share! Please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 21: Itty Bitty Anxiety Committee

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2022 79:03


    Do you have regular degular anxiety or clinical grade? Yes. Therapy is not the cure for everything, sometimes you need Pepto Bismol to cope with your anxiety. Grab your dose and let's get into it! If you like this episode and others follow and share! Please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 20: We (Don't) Talk About Boundaries

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2022 73:05


      Do you ever wonder what's missing in your relationships? It's boundaries. Today we talk about the challenges and opportunities that come along with identifying and communicating your needs. Settle in for one of our favorite (and long awaited) conversations. If you like this episode and others follow and share! Please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Episode 19: 1-800-SYNAPSE

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2021 74:16


     CW: Everyone's got it, but some think they don't. If you want to avoid it, you won't. What am I? Trauma. Today we're talking about the thing that both connects and isolates us all. What happens when your identity rests on surviving trauma? – If you like this episode and others follow and share! Please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 18: Did You Eat?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2021 85:32


    [CW: Disordered eating.] Love languages, shmub languages, it's all about the grub languages! We're talking about the ways in which food transcends love languages and cultures. No offense to Gary Chapman, but we have something a little more expansive in mind when it comes to love. If you like this episode and others follow and share! Please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Episode 17: BDE Big Denial Energy

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2021 60:43


    We're all in denial about something. And hey, it's fine! Or, is it? This session we explore the varying levels of denial, including when it's definitely not okay and when maybe it could be! [Note: Our quick search concluded that the term, "cliffhanger" was popularized by the 1914 movie, "The Perils of Pauline," in which the audience was left in anticipation when two of the main characters were trying to escape a dangerous situation via a cliff. Don't quote us.] If you like this episode and others follow and share! Please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Episode 16: Patience - Virtue or Racist?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2021 71:01


    What does it mean when someone's asking for patience? What does it say when someone doesn't have as much access to patience? On this episode, we get down into some of the ways in which patience can be useful (and harmful); someone's got big feelings about the harm part. If you like this episode and others follow and share! Please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Episode 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2021 87:10


    So you want to be friends with your therapist? It's a no for us. But listen, it's for good reason! In this episode, we're joined by fellow friend/therapist Blair, to get into the bounds of the therapeutic relationship so you don't get into a bind! If you like this episode and others follow and share! Please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 14: Top H8

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2021 83:55


    BaXanga! This episode we're getting into the good, the bad, and all of Rachel's feelings in between about social media. We all have our unique relationship with these nuanced spaces for connection, so join us as we reflect and rant about our personal thoughts and experiences. **Correction: Madeleine was very confident when we stated its SpringForm, but it's actually FormSpring. ---- Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 13: I Don't Like This

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2021 72:41


    Thinking about breaking up with your partner? Your friend? Your hometown? You've come to the right place. Break ups happen; it doesn't mean that all endings are bad (in fact, maybe it's worth celebrating)! Join us and hopefully you'll find some motivation to move forward with that decision we all know you've been putting off. -- Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 12: Bad Therapist

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2021 69:17


    Alright, we'll admit it. We are bad therapists (sometimes). If you've ever wondered if your therapist is having an off day, we are. Come along with us as we normalize moments of human-ness! Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 11: Stop Shaming Every Body

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2021 71:08


    Welcome back for season 2! Quick question: Why are we still body shaming in 2021? Being a person with a body is hard enough as it is! Join us as we stumble through a very vulnerable conversation to kick off this new round of sessions! Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson // Podcast Referenced in this Episode: She's All Fat Podcast, Episode: Destroying The COVID-19 Fat Joke, with anonymous guest, Your Fat Friend; Denice Frohman, "Dear Straight People" spoken word.

    Session 10: Death Happens

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2020 83:54


    [CW: Death, dying, suicide, loss, grief] We're closing out the new year and yall's first round of treatment, aka season one, with death! - well, talking about it. Today we touch on normalizing the funny side of death and our processes of becoming comfortable with mortality. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 9: Raw Gratitude

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 25, 2020 66:57


    Look, there are a lot of jokes we can make about the attitude of gratitude, and frankly, they're not great. This episode however, is full of greatness...and gratitude! While the word might not be new, hopefully you can get something you haven't heard before from this conversation. What do you hold gratitude for? And what are you big ungrateful for? Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 8: If Not Healthy, Why Relationship?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2020 101:39


    Looking for a serious commitment? This episode is what you need (i.e. it's a long one)! If you think you're not in a relationship, well... we have something to tell you. Today we're roaming around the weird world of what's healthy and not. We've got some hot takes on the relationship game, so buckle in. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or reach us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 7: Brains Be Like That Sometimes

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2020 67:25


    How do you know that the way you think is the way others think? There was another thought that was following, but Madeleine got distracted. Get ready for some heated discussions in this episode as we tangle Rachel's linear thinking (yes, tangle) and unravel differences in being neurotypical vs neurodiverse. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 6: Smash the Patriarchy

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2020 81:48


    Raise your hand if you have ever been personally victimized by the patriarchy. (If your hand ain't raised, you'll definitely want to tune into this one!)  In this episode we bring on friend/guest, Kyla Erin, to explore what the patriarchy means to us and the creative tools we find to smash it. Follow/DM us on IG @ea.therapists or get at us via email at eatherapists@gmail.com. Always feel free to send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 5: Self Cringe

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2020 75:19


    Feeling fried? Just do some self care! This week we do a deep dive into our qualms about self care, or as we like to call it, self-cringe. What are the ways we show up for ourselves and how can we de-Karen the conversation? Let's stop pretending we can fit in our bathtubs and that we're not actually doing drugs on the weekends. Oh, and we talk about Rachel's dating life again (that's why you're really here)!  Contact us at eatherapists@gmail.com or send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 4: Check All That Apply (on Being Mixed Pt. 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2020 73:09


    Daaamnn siblings! Back at it again with the white dad. -- does that joke still track? Let us know! Today we're continuing the conversation about being mixed, and this time, we've invited some folks who know us all too well. Our older siblings, Derek and Kelly are here to give us their hot takes on the spices used to mix us all up. We also try to convince Kelly she may have experienced some trauma in her childhood. Buckle up, its a wild one! Question? Comments? Things to put on the table for next time? Contact us at eatherapists@gmail.com and send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 3: Dating (as) Therapists

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2020 60:33


    Have you ever thought about what its like to date a therapist? We have. Today we're joined by our very first guest! A fellow therapist and friend, Tatum. Come along as we each present our case for or against dating another therapist, and this time we dive into Rachel's trauma. Please contact us at eatherapists@gmail.com or send us some love on Venmo! @rcanderson and @madeleine--anderson

    Session 2: Please Check One (on Being Mixed)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2020 73:26


    Today we explore our experiences being Mixed. What was it like growing up? How do we relate to others and our own cultural identity? Madeleine deep dives into their trauma and Rachel tries to make new friends. Want to contact us? Send us an email at ea.therapists@gmail.com If you want to send us some $$, our Venmos: @madeleine--anderson & @rcanderson Thanks so much for listening!

    Session 1: But What About Murder?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2020 70:26


    CONTENT WARNING: DEATH, MURDER, VIOLENCE || What makes someone a murderer? Where do the tropes of serial killers come from? Are there support groups for murderers and empathizers? In today's session we explore our feelings on murder. *Note, at some point we reference the Black Dahlia Murder and name the alleged killer as Charles, correction: George Hodel.

    Intro Trailer

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2020 1:19


    Hosted by Madeleine and Rachel Anderson. Two sisters. Two therapists. Where would you like to begin?

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