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The story continues after the inconclusive battles of the Kawanakajima plains. The Tiger of Kai, Takeda Shingen returned to the Tokugawa lands, but his untimely death would lead his son Takeda Katsuyori to become leader of the Takeda clan, Katsuyori was not his father and he would lead the Takeda clan into almost complete insignificance. The Dragon of Echigo, Uesugi Kenshin would have more success in extending his realm, even defeating Oda Nobunaga decisively, however his untimely death would lead to another position of turmoil for the Uesugi... Topics Covered The Death of Takeda Shingen Takeda Katsuyori Takes Power The Fall of The Takeda (The Battle of Nagashino) The Tiger and the Dragon Unite The Battle of Tedorigawa The Death of Uesugi KenshinSupport the show
What happens when we give strategic advice and it goes bad? What does this have to do with Victorian era sea-captains? Why did Daidouji think Yamamoto Kansuke was a good example and why do I disagree? Daidouji has some thoughts for his young charges and I interpret through the lens of a modern reader. To sign up for new episode notifications and to receive the "Very Brief Introduction to Philosophy for Martial Artists" PDF as well as a full translation of Chapter 51 of the Budoushoshinshu about disciplined martial arts training... go to: walkingtengu.wix.com/tengu and scroll to the bottom to enter your email. Image: "Kanesuke Yamamoto dies in the battle of Kawanakajima" by Tsukioka Yoshitoshi (19th century)
In the Sekogu period, Japan was divided into a large number of small provinces, each ruled by powerful daimyo and all at war with each other. Two of the most important daimyo were Takeda Shingen and Uesugi Kenshin. They seemed to constantly match each other. Takeda Shingen was known as the Tiger of Kai, while Uesugi Kenshin was the Dragon of Echigo. On a mountain plain known as Kawanakajima, the island between the rivers, they met in battle repeatedly. The Fourth Battle of Kawanakajima was their biggest and most well remembered engagement. Shingen had 20,000 men, while Kenshin held 18,000. Shingen took the first strategic move, sending a few thousand men toward the Uesugi forces to surprise them at night, forcing them into his main army's crane wing formation. Instead, Kenshin moved his troops toward the Takeda force first, with what was known as the winding wheel. This whirling formation kept fresh troops in the vanguard, and placed Kenshin in Shingen's tent. Shingen could only parry Kenshin's sword thrusts with his war fan. In the end, Uesugi Kenshin was driven back by Takeda bodyguards. The battle was astonishingly bloody, frustratingly inconclusive, and instantly legendary.
Probably more appropriately titled "What do Chris and Forest philosophize about what can really be known about history", here is our 4th bonus episode of what was originally meant to be a stand-alone podcast on the Samurai Archives podcast network. In this heavily opinionated episode, things get touchy as Chris and Forest get in a philosophical discussion about what can really be known about history. As always with our bonus episodes, the opinions expressed are solely those of Chris and Forest, and do not in any way reflect the opinions of any other hosts or guest to this point or going forward. Japanese history can be particularly questionable in the situations where the only sources available are select pieces of contemporary correspondences and writings compiled 100 years or more after the events they describe, and often the only sources available are war tales, fictionalizations, and hagiography. Your hosts look at various events in Japanese history, including the 4th battle of Kawanakajima, the death of Nobunaga, and the questionable existence of Yamamoto Kansuke to discuss what we know, what we think we know, and what we really don't know about Japanese history, and ask, "What can anyone really know about history?" Mentioned in this podcast: The Sengoku Field Manual (Nate's Blog) http://www.sengokufieldmanual.com/2013/02/giving-up-myths-part-i.html Perrin, Noel, Giving Up the Gun, Japan's Reversion to the Sword, 1543-1879 D. R. Godine; First Edition edition 1979 http://astore.amazon.com/samurai-20/detail/0879237732 Yoshikawa, Eiji Taiko http://astore.amazon.com/samurai-20/detail/4770026099 Shopping on Amazon.com? Use our link: http://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF8&tag=samurai-20 Samurai Archives Podcast on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/samurai-archives-japanese/id430277324 Samurai Archives Podcast on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=41397&refid=stpr Support this podcast: Shop Amazon.com, suport the podcast: http://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF8&tag=samurai-20 Samurai Archives Bookstore: http://astore.amazon.com/samurai-20 Samurai Archives Shop (T-Shirts, etc) http://www.cafepress.com/samuraiarchives Contact Us: Twitter @SamuraiArchives https://twitter.com/#!/samuraiarchives Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samurai-Archives/104533213984 Samurai Archives podcast blog: http://www.samuraipodcast.com
Hello listeners! For the next few episodes we'll be airing what was originally meant to be a seperate podcast on the Samurai Archives podcast network. In these bonus episodes, your hosts will tackle things from their own perspective from outside academia in what is intended to be a comedic and free flow format where they will debate, attack, pontificate, and throw things under the bus in the name of entertainment, intellectual discussion, and philosophizing. Often in these episodes, in the name of debate and spurring discussion, strong, adamant or outright offensive opinions may be expressed, therefore it should be clearly stated up front that everything said in these bonus episodes reflect strictly and only the views of Chris and Forest, and should not be percieved to reflect the views of any other hosts or guests of the podcast. With that being said, please enjoy our bonus episodes. In this first bonus episode we examine the myths and mystique surrounding Takeda Shingen and the battles of Kawanakajima. The 4th battle of Kawanakajima is traditionally believed to be a victory for the Takeda clan, but the events that followed all point to a decisive victory by the Uesugi. As for Takeda Shingen himself, he is considered a hero of the Sengoku, loved by fanboys at home and abroad - but was he really the magnanimous Daimyo he's made out to be, or the 16th century version of a colossal douchebag? Shopping on Amazon.com? Use our link: http://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF8&tag=samurai-20 Samurai Archives Podcast on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/samurai-archives-japanese/id430277324 Samurai Archives Podcast on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=41397&refid=stpr Mentioned in this Podcast: The 9th Annual Samurai Fiction Contest: http://www.samurai-archives.com/writcon.html Kagemusha http://astore.amazon.com/samurai-20/detail/B00005JLEJ Morris, Ivan. The Nobility of Failure: Tragic Heroes in the History of Japan Farrar, Straus and Giroux (September 1, 1988) http://astore.amazon.com/samurai-20/detail/0374521204 Support this podcast: Shop Amazon.com, suport the podcast: http://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF8&tag=samurai-20 Samurai Archives Bookstore: http://astore.amazon.com/samurai-20 Samurai Archives Shop (T-Shirts, etc) http://www.cafepress.com/samuraiarchives Contact Us: Twitter @SamuraiArchives https://twitter.com/#!/samuraiarchives Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samurai-Archives/104533213984 Samurai Archives podcast blog: http://www.samuraipodcast.com
In this episode, we look at the Takeda clan during the 1560s. After Uesugi Kenshin effectively stopped Takeda Shingen in his tracks at the 4th battle of Kawanakajima in 1561, Shingen was forced to re-evaluate his goals in the region, which led to the 1560’s being a time of great change in the Takeda clan. Mentioned in this podcast: Kagemusha: http://astore.amazon.com/samurai-20/detail/B00005JLEJ Shogun-ki: Why Kawanakajima? http://shogun-yashiki.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-kawanakajima-shingen-and-kenshins.html Support this podcast: Shop Amazon.com, suport the podcast: http://amzn.to/wnDX2j Samurai Archives Bookstore: http://astore.amazon.com/samurai-20 Samurai Archives Shop (T-Shirts, etc) http://www.cafepress.com/samuraiarchives Contact Us: Twitter @SamuraiArchives https://twitter.com/#!/samuraiarchives Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samurai-Archives/104533213984 Samurai Archives podcast blog: http://www.samuraipodcast.com Samurai Archives Forum: http://www.japanhistoryforum.com