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A twice-a-week podcast around the covid-19 epidemic in India

Rukmini S


    • Jul 19, 2021 LATEST EPISODE
    • monthly NEW EPISODES
    • 8m AVG DURATION
    • 108 EPISODES


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    Episode 119: Making Datasets Talk To Each Other

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2021 13:55


    In this episode, Prof. S V. Subramanian, Professor of Public Health & Geography joins me to talk about why granular data matters, and how is team is helping fix the lack of it.

    Episode 118 - India's Data Deficit

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2021 12:43


    In this episode, I speak to the economists Paul Novosad and Sam Asher about the challenges with data in India and their work with the Development Data Lab

    Episode 117 - Vaccines and Variants Part II

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2021 15:05


    In this episode, I interview the Financial Times's data journalist John Burn-Murdoch about new data from the UK on the effectiveness of vaccines against the new B.1.617.2 variant first seen in India

    Episode 116 - Vaccines and Variants Part I

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2021 9:18


    In this episode, I look at the inaccurate data that the Indian government presented on vaccine effectiveness and new data that's been published in the UK. So what do we know now about the effectiveness of our vaccines against the new variant?

    Episode 115 - The Variant Story

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2021 12:10


    In this episode, I look at the role that variants have played in the pandemic, and examine the evidence on B.1.617

    Episode 114: The Road Ahead

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2021 7:07


    After a short break, the podcast returns to take stock of India's horrifying second wave, and pictures the road ahead.

    Episode 113: This One Year

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2021 9:42


    It's been exactly one year since our first episode, and in this episode, I reflect on the year gone by.

    Episode 112 - Did We Go Too Far With Sero-surveys?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2021 12:35


    We've relied on sero-surveys for a lot of our understanding of the pandemic. Did we take the certainty too far? Dr Anup Malani who has led several of the Indian sero-surveys joins me.

    Episode 111: Maharashtra, and The Limits of 'Herd Immunity'

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2021 8:41


    Why are numbers rising again, especially in cities like Mumbai and Pune that had such a massive first wave? In this episode, I speak to a range of experts to understand what's going on, and what it means for the future of the pandemic

    Episode 110 - Kerala, and the Hazards of Declaring Success And Failure

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2021 8:58


    Why hasn't Kerala's epidemic curve seen the same September peak and fall as the rest of the country? I speak to a range of experts and find that 'success' and 'failure' have often been poorly defined in the pandemic.

    Episode 109: The Vaccine Story So Far

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2021 16:51


    In this episode, bio-ethicist Dr. Anant Bhan joins me to explain the issues around the granting of approvals to the two vaccines in India's national programme.

    Episode 108: The Dr Kang Interview

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2021 14:09


    In this episode, legendary virologist Dr Gagandep Kang joins me to talk about her concerns over ongoing vaccine trials and vaccine deployment in India.

    Episode 107 - Politics In A Pandemic

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2020 23:24


    In this episode, PTR Palanivel Thiagarajan, an elected representative from Madurai in Tamil Nadu joins me to talk about what it's like being a people's servant in these times, balancing a political career with considerations of safety.

    Episode 106 - A Modeller Looks Back

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2020 18:21


    In this episode, the leading bio-statistician Dr Bhramar Mukherjee joins me as we look back on her early modelling of the pandemic and my reporting of it

    Episode 105: Covid's Hidden Burden

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2020 10:54


    Mathematician Murad Banaji joins me in this episode to discuss what we do not yet know about whom covid has affected in India, and how we could fill in the gaps in our knowledge.

    Episode 104 - Reading Between The Lines of Sero-surveys

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2020 9:00


    In this episode, Prof. Sandeep Juneja, professor at the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, joins me to walk me through the Mumbai sero-surveys, and how to combine indicators to get a real sense of the picture on the ground.

    Episode 103 - The Next Wave(s)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2020 8:13


    In this episode, Dr Manoj Murhekar, the director of the National Institute of Epidemiology, and the lead author of the ICMR's sero-surveys joins me to talk about where the virus goes from here.

    Episode 102 - In Kerala, Stepping In To Fill In The Blanks

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2020 9:21


    Dr Arun N Madhavan, a doctor from Palakkad, and a team of collaborators, are painstakingly compiling records of every covid death in Kerala to expose the extent of under-reporting. It's a model for other states.

    Episode 101: Why This Peak, And Why Now?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2020 11:17


    Prof. Gautam Menon, professor of biology and physics at Ashoka University, and an infectious disease modeller joins me to talk about the plausible explanations for why India saw a peak in mid-September and a subsequent decline in cases.

    Episode 100 - Those We Lost

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2020 12:14


    In this episode, I speak to Shreya Raman, a young woman who lost her father to covid.

    Episode 99: When Covid Comes Home

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2020 16:29


    On this episode, Uma Mahadevan Nair, a civil servant in the state of Karnataka joins me to talk about her covid diagnosis and hospitalisation.

    Episode 98 - Pandemic Research, Made in India

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2020 9:18


    The first piece of solid research from India into how the SARS-CoV2 virus spread is also one of the largest in the world, looking at over half a million people. In this episode, I speak to Prof Ramanan Laxminarayan who led the research, and IAS officer B Chandra Mohan who is part of implementing data insights into policy.

    Episode 97 - The Long Awaited National Sero-survey

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2020 12:05


    The ICMR conducted a national sero-survey in April-May and only released the full findings in September. The paper's lead author Dr Manoj Murhekar, director of the National Institute of Epidemiology, joins me to talk about the survey's findings.

    Episode 96: The View from Wardha, Now

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2020 16:52


    In June, I first spoke to Dr SP Kalantri, medical superintendent of a teaching hospital in rural Maharashtra, and he was waiting and watching for a pandemic that was racing through the cities. What's the view from Wardha like now that the virus has arrived? We check back in with Dr Kalantri.

    Episode 95: Where Does The Buck Stop On Testing?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2020 10:15


    States are using more antigen tests than ever, without being able to pull off the follow-up these tests need. So should the centre just throw up its hands?

    Episode 94 - Setting The Clock Back

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2020 8:04


    New data on disruptions in routine health services raise the worrying prospect of India having set the clock backwards on health progress by years or even decades. Worst of all - there were people who saw it coming, others who know how to fix it, but there has been no movement on this yet.

    Episode 93 - Thinking About Death Beyond Left/ Right

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2020 7:58


    Discussions about covid-19 mortality in particular break down around left/ right lines. How can new information from sero-surveys help us think independently about mortality - even if it means being on the same side as Trump supporters?

    Episode 92: Mathematicians In A Pandemic

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2020 10:44


    There is sometimes pushback against mathematicians who intervene in public debate around the pandemic, especially when it comes to polarised topics like mortality in India. In This episode, I interview Prof. Murad Banaji, a senior lecturer in mathematics at Middlesex University.

    Episode 91: Research In The Time of Covid

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2020 6:46


    What's it like conducting a sero-surveillance survey during an ongoing pandemic? I talk to TIFR scientists Profs Ullas Kolthur and Sandeep Juneja about what it was like trying to go out and draw blood in Mumbai's slums and highrises.

    Episode 90 - The Mumbai Sero-Survey Part I

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2020 8:44


    Over two episodes, I interview Profs Ullas Kolthur and Sandeep Juneja from TIFR about the pioneering sero-surveillance survey they carried out in Mumbai. In Part 1, they explain the promises and pitfalls of extrapolating from their survey.

    Episode 89: The Lessons That Dengue Holds

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2020 8:51


    What can a large national sero-survey that India conducted in 2017 for dengue tell us about the road ahead for covid-19? I am joined by Dr Manoj Murhekar, Director of the National Institute of Epidemiology, who led the dengue survey and has great perspective on the current pandemic.

    Episode 88: For Sero-Surveys To Get Useful, They'll Need To Get Better

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2020 10:51


    India is seeing a spurt of sero-surveillance surveys that could change how we think about the pandemic. But are they good enough to claim what they're claiming?

    Episode 87: Did Kerala Deserve The Early Praise?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2020 7:46


    In this episode, journalist Nidheesh MK tells me that things are about to get much worse in Kerala in August. Has Kerala still earned the praise that it got globally in May?

    Episode 86: What Went Wrong In Kerala?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2020 11:08


    Despite having India's first case, Kerala appeared to be the first Indian state to have, New Zealand-style, flattened the curve by May. By late July it had one of the fastest growing outbreaks of any Indian state, now at over 15,000 cases. What happened? I speak to the journalist Nidheesh MK.

    Episode 85: The Delhi Sero-survey

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2020 9:31


    Two large-scale sero-surveillance surveys - all-India and Delhi - could have told us a lot about the spread of the virus so far. But it's hard to learn much when the numbers are being presented in a problematic way.

    Episode 84: A New Pandemic Bar For Evidence

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2020 9:29


    How do you ensure that vaccine and drug therapy discovery keeps up with an ongoing pandemic without lowering the bar for evidence too far?

    Episode 83: The Observer Effect

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2020 6:20


    Has paying close attention to India's covid-19 data had the unintended consequence of causing governments to be less transparent?

    Episode 82: My Very Basic Vaccine Qs Answered

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2020 12:07


    In this episode, I interview virologist Dr Shahid Jameel and ask him basic things about vaccine development and the current candidates.

    Episode 81: The Vaccine Trial Controversy

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2020 10:27


    The ICMR says that its recent letter strong-arming hospitals taking part in vaccine trials was only to speed up approvals. So what's the harm in that? Potentially - a lot.

    Episode 80: Auditing Deaths and Missing Many

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2020 8:15


    Audit committees were supposed to be a step towards ensuring that covid deaths are accurately registered and certified. But are they working as they should? Also featuring an interview with Dr Prabhat Jha, an expert on mortality.

    Episode 79: When Can Everyone Get A Test?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2020 10:17


    On June 23, the ICMR expanded India's testing strategy to include antigen and antibody tests as well. So does this mean that anyone who wants a test can get one now?

    Episode 78: Taking Stock

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2020 7:17


    Where do we stand now? This episode takes stock of India's current position, and I look at two places that worry me and two things that give me hope.

    Episode 77: The Gaping Holes in India's Death Statistics

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2020 9:45


    Countries around the world are trying to estimate covid-19 deaths that they might be missing. How can we do this, given the shaky foundations our mortality data rest on? Featuring an interview with Dr Usha Ram, a leading mortality researcher.

    Episode 76: The Symptom Trap

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2020 10:20


    The WHO caused a bit of a dust-up ten days ago, when their technical lead appeared to be suggesting that asymptomatic transmission was "rare". This episode looks at the evidence and considers implications for public health messaging.

    Episode 75: Karnataka's Covid Data And What It Does With It

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2020 6:52


    Karnataka's data collection and analysis in the pandemic has been exceptional. How governments use the data they collect is far more complicated.

    Episode 74: How Karnataka Aced Contact Tracing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2020 7:32


    How did Karnataka do such a good job of contact tracing when many other states are floundering? It started early, and it used tech. Munish Moudgil, the IAS officer who heads the state's Covid-19 War Room joins as a guest in Part 1 of a two-episode interview.

    Episode 73: The Mask Update

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2020 8:34


    On April 3, the Indian government recommended cloth masks for the general public. Since then, there has been a range of new evidence about masks. So does the Indian government's advice need an update?

    Episode 72: The View From Wardha

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2020 8:15


    In Part 2 of an interview with Dr SP Kalantri, a veteran rural physician, this episode considers the question: how is rural and small-town India looking at the looming pandemic?

    Episode 71: Collateral Damage

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2020 11:27


    This episode features an interview with veteran rural physician Dr SP Kalantri, and asks the question: are we prepared for the collateral damage that the lockdown caused to the health of Indians?

    Episode 70: Early Disadvantages

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2020 7:39


    This episode asks the question: what long-term impact can we expect the pandemic to have on today's children? Featuring economist Jishnu Das talking about his research on past disasters.

    Episode 69: Breaking Through Binaries

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2020 8:21


    This episode asks the question: what does an expert on medical misdiagnosis think of how accurate our covid-19 numbers are? Plus, an attempt to move past the tired public v private debate.

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