I Hope This Message Finds You Well is a podcast on curating hosted by Kris Dittel and Eloise Sweetman. It grew out of our friendship and delight in talking about art, where we, two freelance curators, openly discuss and question what we are doing, why we are doing it, and open up this conversation to our colleagues. In each episode we talk to our guests about their work, professional trajectory, motivation, and reasons to work as a curator or otherwise.
I hope this message finds you well, heading into 2022! What a year it's been! We are thankful for the genuine and joyful conversations to all our guests. As we are wrapping up our first season, we'd like to share with you some cheerful moments full of laughter. We will be back soon with Season 2. ~ Stay tuned ~ As always, if you have feedback, we'd love to receive your email at ihopethismessagefindsyouwell@gmail.com; you can also follow us on Instagram @ihopethismessage and find us on SoundCloud @ihopethismessage. Our music is by Difficult and sound engineering by Nick Thomas. Graphic design by Christophe Clarijs. Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mzt5SOk6LOCxCc_Ta2KoBH5rGVkOMQ3fr-GR7NHJU7Q/edit?usp=sharing
In this bonus episode of I Hope This Message Finds You Well we share fragments of conversations with our guests that did not make it into the final edit. With Cédric Fauq we discuss our “professional crushes”, curators we hold in high regard. We also talk about what it means to involve the audience into the thinking and making process. With Jo-ey Tang we consider email protocols in pandemic times and beyond. Last but not least, with Clare Butcher we talk about office life vs. freelance time management, and the way the pandemic shaped our comfort to meet others in person. If you have feedback we'd love to receive your email at ihopethismessagefindsyouwell@gmail.com; you can also follow us on Instagram @ihopethismessage and find us on SoundCloud @ihopethismessage. Our music is by Difficult and sound engineering by Nick Thomas. Graphic design by Christophe Clarijs. Episode transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fou5zuBfUeUbTtRvxGsZBY0wFFuV5O4ElwzSti654C4/edit?usp=sharing
I Hope This Message Finds You Well is a podcast on curating hosted by Kris Dittel and Eloise Sweetman. In this episode we talk to Cédric Fauq, recently appointed chief curator at Capc – Musée d'Art Contemporain de Bordeaux. In this joyful conversation full of laughter, we also discuss important issues, such as why and if the exhibition as a format should be abolished, and the internal double bind we share when working with this format. Cédric also talks about the issues of class and Blackness and how he works with them via exhibitions and mediation. Further, we discuss the curator as a figure of power and how can we dismantle this figuration; and how to “occupy” or “take space” as curators, artists and institutions in the public realm. The episode was recorded in May 2021. If you have feedback we'd love to receive your email at ihopethismessagefindsyouwell@gmail.com; you can also follow us on Instagram @ihopethismessage and find us on SoundCloud @ihopethismessage. Our music is by Difficult and sound engineering by Nick Thomas. Graphic design by Christophe Clarijs. Show notes Transactional Objects Full of Contexts in Voided Sites, an essay in Mousse 71: http://moussemagazine.it/transactional-objects-full-of-contexts-in-voided-sites-cedric-fauq-2020/ Governmental Fires, FUTURA, Prague, Czech Republic: https://artviewer.org/governmental-fires-at-futura/ Institutions mentioned in this episode: Palais de Tokyo, Paris clearview, London CAPC musée d'art contemporain de Bordeaux nGbK, Berlin People mentioned in this episode: Ghita Skali Cameron Rowland Carolyn Lazard Ima-Abasi Okon Abbas Zahedi Michael E. Smith Okwui Enwezor Jo-ey Tang Episode transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1on9UFmoqOsUxwH5tux-sHrwMYjZ3NVeYupF1Az14qr4/edit?usp=sharing
I Hope This Message Finds You Well is a podcast on curating hosted by Kris Dittel and Eloise Sweetman. In this episode we talk to curator and educator Clare Butcher. With Clare's enthusiasm to discuss curatorial methodologies, we kick off our conversation by talking about her professional trajectory and early interest in a critical exploration of archival practices. We talk about institutional hierarchies, learning curves and the importance of collectivity and context-sensitivity. Clare also shared with us why she stopped making exhibitions and found her interest in the field of education and mediation, and the tension that can arise between exhibition making and educational practices in an institutional setting. The episode was recorded in May 2021. If you have feedback we'd love to receive your email at ihopethismessagefindsyouwell@gmail.com; you can also follow us on Instagram @ihopethismessage and find us on SoundCloud @ihopethismessage. Our music is by Difficult and sound engineering by Nick Thomas. Graphic design by Christophe Clarijs. Show notes: Since this conversation was recorded Clare is no longer with the Toronto Biennial of Art and has moved on to independent projects. Here are some links for further reference to the work of her colleagues, practitioners and projects mentioned during the episode which continue to nourish Clare's methods and thinking. This is Not An Archive (2021), Toronto Biennial of Art with Art Metropole, edited by Clare Butcher and Myung-Sun Kim https://thisisnotanarchive.ca/ aneducation–documenta 14 (2018), Archive Books, edited by Sepake Angiama, Clare Butcher, Alkisti Efthymiou, Anton Kats, and Arnisa Zeqo https://www.archivebooks.org/aneducation-%E2%80%A2-documenta-14/ Nourishing Knowledge (2017), part of aneducation program, documenta 14, with Ella Froemmel, Ayşe Güleç, Wanda Heimbs, Karl Leonard Heinemann, Carmen José, Lose Fäden, Ann-Kathrin Mogge, Otobong Nkanga, Emeka Ogboh, Nathan Pohio, Beat Sandkühler, Ahlam Shibli, Katerina Stefanidaki, Maya Tounta, Ida Westermann, Zafos Xagoraris, and more https://www.documenta14.de/en/public-education/25659/nourishing-knowledge unsettling rietveld sandberg, led by consultant Judith Leysner and coordinator Tracian Meikle https://unsettling-rietveldsandberg.net/about The Works of Art Collection at the University of Cape Town http://www.artcollection.uct.ac.za/art/purpose Linda Stupart, artist and previously curator Centre for African Studies Gallery, University of Cape Town http://lindastupart.net/ Institutions mentioned in this episode: Van Abbemuseum, Eindhoven The School of Missing Studies, Sandberg Institute, Amsterdam People mentioned in this episode: Gabi Ngcobo Renata Cervetto Sepake Angiama
I Hope This Message Finds You Well is a podcast on curating hosted by Kris Dittel and Eloise Sweetman. In this episode we talk to Jo-ey Tang about his approach to being an artist as well as a curator and how these two roles are intertwined in his practice. Our discussion revolves around the question of time, beginnings and endings in curatorial practice, but also as parameters of living a life. How to work with institutional constraints and establish the practice of Slow Programming with the inherent contradictions of slowness and the labour of slowness? If you have feedback we'd love to receive your email at ihopethismessagefindsyouwell@gmail.com; you can also follow us on Instagram @ihopethismessage and find us on SoundCloud @ihopethismessage. Our music is by Difficult and sound engineering by Nick Thomas. Graphic design by Christophe Clarijs. Show notes: https://www.jo-eytang.com/ Heide Hinrichs, Jo-ey Tang and Elizabeth Haines (eds.), Shelf Documents: Art Library as Practice https://ap-arts.be/en/publication/shelf-documents-art-library-practice-drawings-heide-hinrichs Institutions mentioned in this episode: Galerie Joseph Tang Beeler Gallery at Columbus College of Art & Design The Notary Public People mentioned in this episode: Fierce Pussy (Nancy Brooks Brody, Joy Episalla, Zoe Leonard, Carrie Yamaoka) Heide Hinrichs Carol Bove Wayne Koestenbaum Cultural references mentioned in this episode: Apichatpong Weerasethakul: Blissfully Yours (2002) Wayne Koestenbaum: Jackie Under My Skin (1995) Claire Denis: Beau Travail (1999) Episode transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/164FukwvVZJQT2Wx6dwKJAJAfhYRnUa4MESDx_lcv6j4/edit?usp=sharing
I Hope This Message Finds You Well is a podcast on curating hosted by Kris Dittel and Eloise Sweetman. In this episode, we talk to Lara Khaldi about her professional trajectory, from being trained as an archeologist to becoming a curator, or cultural worker, as she prefers to call herself. We also talk about power relations between artist and curator, learning from artists, being a parent or caretaker while maintaining a career in the arts, and collective ways of working. And possibly, we happen to coin some hot new terminology: OOC (“object oriented curating”) and AOC (“artist oriented curating”). If you have feedback we'd love to receive your email at ihopethismessagefindsyouwell@gmail.com; you can also follow us on Instagram @ihopethismessage and find us on SoundCloud @ihopethismessage. Our music is by Difficult and sound engineering by Nick Thomas. Graphic design by Christophe Clarijs. Show notes: “We're still alive, so remove us from memory. Asynchronicity and the Museum in Resistance”, Errant Journal, Issue 1, Autumn/Winter 2020 https://errantjournal.org/contents-1/ Why Call it Labour: Motherhood and Art Work, Mai Abu ElDahab (ed.), 2021 https://www.archivebooks.org/why-call-it-labor/ Institutions mentioned in this episode: De Appel Curatorial Programme, Amsterdam Al Ma'mal Foundation for Contemporary Art, Jerusalem Sharjah Biennial Khalil Sakakini Cultural Center, Ramallah Documenta 15 People mentioned in this episode: Jumana Emil Abboud Jack Persekian ruangrupa Episode transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1akANXO7v3GzocqJ-Vcr83Y1wGG1s2IDCyqiJQXTkGbg/edit?usp=sharing
I Hope this Message Finds You Well is a podcast on curating hosted by Kris Dittel and Eloise Sweetman. It grew out of our friendship and delight in talking about art, where we, two freelance curators, openly discuss and question what we are doing, why we are doing it, and open up this conversation to our colleagues. Recorded in July 2020, this episode is an excerpt from our conversation where we discuss why we, Eloise & Kris, became curators and freelancers in particular. We talk about what curating means for us, the expectations we have towards ourselves, and our relations to artists, audiences, and institutions. We often talk about art and we will in future episodes, but this time we decided to focus on how we became curators, on how leaving our home countries influenced our professional trajectory and our approach to curating. We also discover that we both try to make sense of the world through and with art and artists. If you have feedback we'd love to receive your email at ihopethismessagefindsyouwell@gmail.com; you can also follow us on Instagram @ihopethismessage and find us on SoundCloud @ihopethismessage. Our jingle was by the band Difficult and sound engineering was done by Nick Thomas. Institutions mentioned in this episode: Witte de With Center for Contemporary Art/ Kunstinstituut Melly People mentioned in this episode: Charlotte Posenenske Hannah Arendt Episode transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1klMeKgC9z8tmCda69z1f7QEfYonwX5gwPE-TKu02oLU/edit?usp=sharing
I Hope this Message Finds You Well is a podcast on curating hosted by Kris Dittel and Eloise Sweetman. It grew out of our friendship and delight in talking about art, where we, two freelance curators, openly discuss and question what we are doing, why we are doing it, and open up this conversation to our colleagues. In each episode we talk to our guests about their work, professional trajectory, motivation, and reasons to work as a curator or otherwise. The first season includes interviews with Lara Khaldi, Jo-Ey Tang, Clare Butcher, and Cédric Fauq. Jingle by Difficult (Tracy Hanna, Kari Robertson & Eothen Stearn). Sound engineering by Nick Thomas. Graphic design by Christophe Clarijs. ~ Stay tuned ~ Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oFYimuknUFPYvTbq2526RBOWZgd64dBh_h7R_81eL4w/edit?usp=sharing