Join Elkan Abrahamson and Nicola Brook of Broudie Jackson Canter solicitors as they provide expert commentary, opinion, and key insights into the ongoing Covid Inquiry evidential hearings. Elkan & Nicola represent more than 6,000 members of the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice group UK in the national Covid Inquiry, fighting to secure answers for those directly affected by the pandemic. Starting with Module 1, the evidential hearings see key witnesses inlcuding Matt Hancock, Nicola Sturgeon and David Cameron give evidence on the UK’s preparedness for a pandemic pre Covid-19. Elkan and Nicola are joined each week by guests to discuss key events from the Inquiry, with interviews and conversations that are designed to keep you up to date on everything you may have missed that week in way that is accessible and, most importantly, in plain English. Module 1 evidential hearings are expected to conclude in July 2023, with Module 2 evidential hearings expected to start later in 2023. Subscribe to The Covid Inquiry Podcast now to get all the latest news and commentary straight from the hearings. Please note: some listeners may find the contents of this podcast distressing
The evidential hearings for Module 5 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on March 3rd 2025. This week, Nicola Brook was joined by Jean Adamson on behalf of CBFFJ UK and Peter Munro from Transparency International. Together, they discussed everything that happened during the third week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 5 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on March 3rd 2025. This week, Nicola Brook was joined by Philip Dayle on behalf of FEMHO (Federation of Ethnic Minority Healthcare Organisations) and Professor Naomi Fulop on behalf of CBFFJ UK. Together, they discussed everything that happened during the second week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 5 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on March 3rd 2025. This week, Nicola Brook was joined by Clara Collingwood, Campaign Director of CBFFJ UK, Peter Munro from Transparency International, and Gavin Hayman from Open Contracting Partnership. Together, they discussed everything that happened during the first week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 4 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on January 14th 2025. This week, Nicola Brook was joined by co-host Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the third and final week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Kamran Mallick from the Disabled Peoples Organisation who gave his own perspective on the evidence detailed throughout the week. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 4 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on January 14th 2025. This week, Nicola Brook was joined by co-host Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the second week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Lara Wong from Clinically Vulnerable Families, who gave her own perspective on the evidence detailed throughout the week. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 4 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on January 14th 2025. This week Nicola Brook was joined by co-host Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the first week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Dr Salman Waqar from the Federation of Ethnic Minority Healthcare Organisations (FEMHO) and Caroline Pover, the Chair of Trustees UKCV Family - who gave their own perspective on the evidence detailed throughout the week. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on September 9th 2024. This week Nicola Brook was joined by co-host Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the final week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Dr. Saleyha Ahsan and Martina Ferguson, who gave their own perspective on the evidence detailed throughout the week. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on September 9th 2024. This week Nicola Brook was joined by co-host Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the ninth week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Enda McGarrity from PA Duffy solicitors and Prof. Phil Banfield from the BMA, who gave their own perspective on the evidence detailed throughout the week. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on September 9th 2024. This week Nicola Brook was joined by co-host Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the eighth week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Allison Munroe KC, who gave her own perspective on the evidence detailed throughout the week. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on September 9th 2024. This week Nicola Brook was joined by co-host Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the seventh week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Enda McGarrity from PA Duffy solicitors and Dr Cathy Finnis from Clinically Vulnerable Families, who gave their own perspective on the evidence detailed throughout the week. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on September 9th 2024. This week Nicola Brook was joined by co-host Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the sixth week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Julia Jones from John's Campaign and Nicola Ritchie from Long Covid Physio, who gave their own perspective on the evidence detailed throughout the week. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on September 9th 2024. This week Nicola Brook was joined by co-host Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the fifth week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Professor J S Bamrah CBE and Dr Cathy Finnis, who gave their own perspective on the evidence detailed throughout the week. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on September 9th 2024. This week Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during week 4, including witnesses and evidence presented during the hearings. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on the 9th of September. Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King to discuss everything that had happened in this weeks hearings. Together, they welcomed Enda McGarrity who gave their own perspective on the this weeks of evidence. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on September 9th. This week Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the second week of hearings, including evidence from witnesses. Together, they welcomed Dr Barry Jones Chair of the CATA, who gave their own perspective on the second week of hearings. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 3 of the UK Covid Inquiry began last week, on September 9th. Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King to discuss everything that happened during the opening week, including opening statements and evidence from the bereaved. Together, they welcomed Nathan Oswin from the Trade Union Congress who gave their own perspective on the first week of hearings. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
This podcast episode covers the Module 4 preliminary hearing, which took place on Wednesday 22nd May, and the special hearing for Module 2, which was held on Thursday 23rd May. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King again to discuss everything that had happened in this week's hearings, including evidence from Simon Case. Together, they welcomed Allison Munroe KC and Anna Morris KC, who each gave their own perspective on this week's hearings and evidence. The podcast will be resuming for Module 3 in September 2024. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2C of the UK Covid Inquiry began on 30th April 2024. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Enda McGarrity and Claire McNeilly discuss what happened in the third and final week of hearings. Together, they welcomed Lauren Mallon, Gabriel Scally and Johnny McCambridge, who each gave their own perspective on this week's hearings and witnesses. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2C of the UK Covid Inquiry began on 30th April 2024. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Enda McGarrity and Claire McNeilly discuss what happened in the second week of hearings. Together, they welcomed Nicola Brook, Fiona Humphries and Sarah Kirk, who each gave their own perspective on this week's hearings and witnesses. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2C of the UK Covid Inquiry began on 30th April 2024. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Enda McGarrity and Claire McNeilly discuss what happened in the first week of hearings, including opening submissions. Together, they welcomed Catriona Myles, Nuala Toman and Conal McGarrity to discuss their thoughts on week 1 of Module 2C and evidence from Marion Reynolds . If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2C of the UK Covid Inquiry is set to begin on 30th April 2024. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Enda McGarrity and Claire McNeilly are looking ahead towards to Module 2C hearings. Together, they welcomed Martina Ferguson and Brenda Doherty, who are NICBFFJ group leads, to discuss their thoughts on Module 2C generally and what they hope will be achieved. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on October 3. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King again to discuss everything that had happened in the ninth week of hearings, including closing statements. Together, they welcomed Sammie McFarland, Samuel Jacobs, Amos Waldman and Enda McGarrity who each gave their own perspective on this week's hearings and explained what the Inquiry means to them. The podcast will be resuming for Module 3 in 2024. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on October 3. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King again to discuss everything that had happened in the eigth week of hearings, including evidence from expert witnesses. Together, they welcomed Elkan Abrahamson, Nathan Oswin and Leslie Thomas KC who each gave their own perspective on this week's hearings and explained what the Inquiry means to them. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on October 3. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King again to discuss everything that had happened in the sixth week of hearings, including evidence from expert witnesses. Together, they welcomed Philip Dayle, Rajiv Menon KC and Nathan Oswin who each gave their own perspective on this week's hearings and explained what the Inquiry means to them. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on October 3. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King again to discuss everything that had happened in the sixth week of hearings, including evidence from expert witnesses. Together, they welcomed Jane Ryan, Naomi Fulop and Enda McGarrity who each gave their own perspective on this week's hearings and explained what the Inquiry means to them. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on October 3. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King again to discuss everything that had happened in the fifth week of hearings, including evidence from expert witnesses. Together, they welcomed Hannana Siddiqui, Fazilet Hadi and Enda McGarrity who each gave their own perspective on this week's hearings and explained what the Inquiry means to them. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on October 3. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King again to discuss everything that had happened in the third week of hearings, including evidence from expert witnesses. Together, they welcomed Amos Waldman, Nathan Oswin and Anthony Metzer KC, who each gave their own perspective on the fourth week of hearings and explained what the Inquiry means to them. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2 of the UK Covid Inquiry began on October 3. On this week's episode of The Covid Inquiry Podcast, Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King again to discuss everything that had happened in the third week of hearings, including evidence from expert witnesses. Together, they welcomed Naomi Fulop, Kate Stone & Sammie McFarland who each gave their own perspective on the third week of hearings and explained what the Inquiry means to them. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry Please Note: The Inquiry is not sitting this week therefore the podcast will take a small break. We will return week beginning 30th November.
The evidential hearings for Module 2 of the UK Covid Inquiry began last week, on October 3. Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King to discuss everything that had happened in the second week of hearings, including evidence from expert witnesses. Together, they welcomed Pete Weatherby KC, Fazilet Hadi, Marie-Claire McDermott and Barbara Herbert who each gave their own perspective on the second week of hearings and explained what the Inquiry means to them. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
The evidential hearings for Module 2 of the UK Covid Inquiry began last week, on October 3. Nicola Brook was joined by Lorelei King to discuss everything that had happened in the opening week, including opening statements and evidence from the bereaved. Together, they welcomed Pete Weatherby KC, Catriona Myles, Enda McGarrity, Thalia Maragh and Liam Powney-Wain who each gave their own perspective on the first week of hearings. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
As the Covid Inquiry Module 1 evidential hearings have come to an end, Elkan Abrahamson is joined by Nicola Brook and Lorelei King to discuss everything that has happened in court over the last six weeks. In the final week, we were finally able to hear evidence from the bereaved. Four bereaved family members, each representing a bereaved families group in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, took to the stand to give incredibly heart-breaking and moving testimony about those they lost during the pandemic. The legal team were also able to dissect what was said in the closing statements. This instalment of the podcast is the final one for Module 1. To catch up on everything that was discussed throughout the hearings, please be sure to subscribe to our podcast where all previous episodes can be accessed. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
In the second part of this week's podcast, Elkan and Lorelei are joined by Thomas Jones, one of the barristers on our legal team who is dealing with Welsh issues, and Barbara Herbert, client and member of the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice Wales branch, to discuss the Welsh issues that have been covered so far in the hearings. This week saw a focus on devolved nations and the issues relating specifically to them, with witnesses ranging from Professor Sir Michael McBride, Baroness Foster, Michael Gove, Chris Llewellyn and more. Join us next week as the Module 1 evidential hearings conclude and our legal team prepare to give their closing submissions. Be sure to subscribe to our podcast to stay up to date with new weekly episodes of The Covid Inquiry Podcast. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
As the Covid Inquiry Module 1 evidential hearings conclude their penultimate week, Elkan is joined by Lorelei King & Enda McGarrity to discuss the devolved issues relating to Northern Ireland that have taken centre stage. This week's episode has been split in to two parts, with part 1 focussing exclusively on issues, witnesses and evidence relating to Northern Ireland. Enda McGarrity, one of the lead solicitors representing the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice Northern Ireland branch, offers his expert insight and opinion on the events of the week, and how he, his team and his clients feel about the evidence heard and seen. In part 2, Elkan and Lorelei are joined by Thomas Jones, one of the barristers on our legal team who is dealing with Welsh issues, and Barbara Herbert, client and member of the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice Wales branch, to discuss the Welsh issues that have been covered so far in the hearings. This week saw a focus on devolved nations and the issues relating specifically to them, with witnesses ranging from Professor Sir Michael McBride, Baroness Foster, Michael Gove, Chris Llewellyn and more. Join us next week as the Module 1 evidential hearings conclude and our legal team prepare to give their closing submissions. Be sure to subscribe to our podcast to stay up to date with new weekly episodes of The Covid Inquiry Podcast. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
This week, Elkan is joined once again by Lorelei King, actress, screenwriter, narrator, and active member of the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice group as well as Enda McGarrity from PA Duffy, who is one of the lead solicitors representing the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice group Northern Ireland. Elkan, Lorelei and Enda discuss some of the key points that came out of week 4 of the hearings including dissecting more evidence from key witnesses. Be sure to subscribe to stay up to date with new weekly episodes of The Covid Inquiry Podcast. If you've lost a loved one to Covid-19, it isn't too late to be part of the Covid Inquiry. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
This week, Elkan is joined once again by Lorelei King. Actress, screenwriter, narrator, and active member of the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice group. Elkan is also joined by Enda McGarrity from PA Duffy, who is one of the lead solicitors representing the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice group Northern Ireland. Week three saw some key witnesses take the stand to give evidence on the UK's preparedness for a pandemic, including Chris Whitty, Matt Hancock and Nicola Sturgeon. Elkan, Lorelei and Enda discuss some of the key points that came out of the hearings, and Enda brings us up to speed on how he, his team and, most importantly, his clients feel about the Inquiry's progress so far. For more information on how to instruct legal representation, visit our website here: https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/BroudieJacksonCanter/services/covid-inquiry
After many prelimiary hearings, the evidential hearings for Module 1 of the Covid Inquiry began on 13th June 2023. The Covid Inquiry Podcast aims to provide you with a non-legalistic, plain English summary of the events of the evidential hearings. Hosted by Elkan Abrahamson & Nicola Brook of Broudie Jackson Canter solicitors, each week they will provide expert commentary and insight as they review what happened that week. This week, Elkan is joined once again by Lorelei King. Actress, screenwriter, narrator, and active member of the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice group. The second week of evidential hearings got off to a strong start as we saw previous PM, David Cameron, took the stand. Elkan & Lorelei recap on the evidence heard by some of this module's most anticipated witnesses.
After many prelimiary hearings, the evidential hearings for Module 1 of the Covid Inquiry began on 13th June 2023. The Covid Inquiry Podcast aims to provide you with a non-legalistic, plain english summary of the events of the evidential hearings. Hosted by Elkan Abrahamson & Nicola Brook of Broudie Jackson Canter solicitors, each week they will provide expert commentary and insight as they review what happened that week. This week, Elkan is joined by Lorelei King. Actress, screenwriter, narrator, and most pertinently, member of the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice group. As the first week of evidential hearings conclude, they reflect on everything we learned this week. Be sure to subscribe to our channel to stay up-to-date with new weekly episodes of The Covid Inquiry Podcast.