Podcast appearances and mentions of jonathan shainin

In an extra episode, we're back with last week's guest Jonathan Shainin, Head of Opinion at the Guardian, so he can talk us through the big blow-up at the NYT. What has it taught us about about the new battlegrounds in newspaper opinion? Where does power now lie in newspaper offices? And where does Jonathan draw the line between what can and can't be published? In our next episode, voices on the ground in the US.Further Reading:The Tom Cotton Op-Ed from the New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.htmlMichelle Goldberg in the NYThttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/opinion/tom-cotton-op-ed-new-york-times.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=HomepageTom Cotton Op-Ed under review:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/business/new-york-times-op-ed-cotton.htmlThe creation of the NYT "op-ed" page, which was launched in 1970 https://digitalcommons.library.umaine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1001&context=cmj_facpubThe history of the "objectivity norm" in American journalismhttps://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/146488490100200201 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

David and Helen talk with Jonathan Shainin, Head of Opinion at the Guardian newspaper, about the challenges of political journalism in a deeply polarised age. Is it possible to hold the line between news and comment? Are the arguments about Covid a rerun of Brexit? What can scientists and historians add to political analysis? Plus we discuss how American journalism has changed the way it talks about race and violence and what that means for the current moment.Talking Points: The heightened state of political opinion writing around Brexit seems to have dissipated.The opinion pages became a vehicle for a kind of tribal politics. There was a relentless urgency to it: was that illusory?Technology revealed the enormous appetite for news and commentary related to Brexit.People want updates and then they want trusted voices to add to the experience and understanding of events. Is there a distinction between emotional and analytical opinion pieces?Opinion pages will always reflect partisan opinions.To what extent is an opinion piece feeding into a libidinal appetite among readers? Is there a role in either the Guardian or the Telegraph for an opinion piece that would be comprehensible to the other side?One thing John set out to do is to reduce the frequency of opinion pieces.In the early days of the pandemic, a lot of the pieces were explanatory and written by experts. Can we separate scientific expertise from political judgment?Analytical pieces aim for a different kind of persuasion.Historians and political theorists can say: can we think about things in a different way? No form of journalism can be made bulletproof against weaponised forms of skepticism or cynicism.The classical model of how the facts, the news, and the demos interact is now outdated.A new model would have to capture the chaos and instability between these elements.Journalism feels more urgent, yet the urgency is accompanied by diminished authority.Has Trump revealed the limits of the analytical mode?What happens when there isn’t room for reasonable disagreement?Mentioned in this Episode:Ian Jack on the Scottish Independence Referendum David’s piece for The Guardian, It was all a dream’William Hanage for the Guardian on COVIDMelanie Philips in the Times on COVIDAlan Finlayson on why we should stop complaining about tribalismHelen’s piece on football for the New StatesmanDavid on climate denialismFurther Learning: David and... See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week, the original TF crew of Riley (@raaleh), Hussein (@HKesvani), and Milo (@Milo_Edwards) speaks to the Guardian's Jonathan Shainin (@jonathanshainin) on the topic of Niall Ferguson's Bond villain antics, the Evening Standard's recent sale of itself to the app lords, and a robust debate on whether or not free speech is an absolute and abstract thing. Nate (@inthesedeserts) smuggled himself into the Sharia no-go zone of Tower Hamlets to guest on this episode, after which 'Viley' confined him to his flat and forced him to edit this on his extremely unclean laptop. We will only respect people who commodify their dissent with a t-shirt from http://www.lilcomrade.com/ Please keep the Saracen Guards of Bethnal Green in your thoughts, as invaribly they're really hungry enforcing Sharia while fasting.

Kassia and Simon speak to Jonathan Shainin, who runs the Long Read section of the Guardian. He spoke to us about his nomadic career, which took him from New York (and the New Yorker), to Abu Dhabi, India, and back to New York, before coming to London to set up the Long Read in 2014. Jonathan discusses the differences between US and UK editing styles, where the Long Read fits into the wider Guardian ecosystem, and how venturing abroad can fit into the career of an editor as well as a writer. https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/the-long-read https://twitter.com/gdnlongread You can find us online at alwaystakenotes.com, on Twitter @takenotesalways, and on Facebook at facebook.com/alwaystakenotes. Always Take Notes is presented by Kassia St Clair and Simon Akam, and produced by Olivia Crellin, Ed Kiernan and Elizabeth Davies. Elizabeth Davies edited this episode. Zahra Hankir is our communities editor. Our music is by Jessica Dannheisser and our logo was designed by James Edgar.

Tom returns from selfishly having his wedding and honeymoon to join Dan and special guest Jonathan Shainin, Spurs fan and editor of Guardian Longreads. We start with a chat about longread journalism and why it is so successful, and what would make a good Tottenham long read; Pochettino or Levy? We move onto the surprisingly routine victory away to Everton on Saturday, with Kane reaching his 100th (and 101st) goals for the club. What have been our favourites so far? We also discuss Davinson slotting straight in, Ben Davies taking responsibility and Christian Eriksen continuing to be the player of 2017 so far. We move on to Dortmund and the Champions League, with an opportunity to show that lessons have been learned on the biggest stage against Europe's finest. How do we manage without Alli, suspended for half the group stage? Will Wembley again be a factor? We also discuss Swansea, the club against whom we've played 12 times in the Premier League and only ever dropped 4 points. So, there's some nice tempting of fate all round. This season we are sponsored by Harry's, the US shaving company making a big impact here in the UK. You can help support The Tottenham Way and keep this content free by signing up at Harrys.com/Tottenham and claiming your trial set for just £2.95. COYS.

Special free extra episode this week to prepare for the Election Eve in the UK. We talk to old friend, Guardian editor, and London-based expat Jonathan Shainin about the Tory bedshitting, Jezza, whether he bout to do it, and what different outcomes could mean for the future.

Allo' bruv...in episode 18 it's gone up the apples 'n pears, innit? We debut the De Crecio radio play and talk Brexit. Naill Ferguson compares leaving the EU to leaving his wife after a riding accident put her in a coma. Jonathan Shainin tells us what this all means for House Lannister and the new King in the North. Back in the US, Matt takes us through the horror show that is this year's "Politicon", "the unconventional political convention". Then we revisit Rod Dreher's head canon and debut the Chapo Male Bag feature. SUBSCRIBE TO CHAPO TO GET ODD # SHOWS EVERY WEEK: https://www.patreon.com/user?ty=h&u=3343736 Links: http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/divorcing-europe/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2082365/Sue-Douglas-lost-husband-Niall-Ferguson-career-saved-horses.html http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/transgender-religious-liberty-knowing/

Jonathan Shainin, senior editor at The Caravan.   "Working in an environment that's foreign, where you have to kind of think through a lot of things from the ground up...I find it to be really stimulating to have to interrogate the assumptions that you have as an editor about what's interesting and what's not interesting, what's a good story and what's a bad story, what's the story that's been done a million times already. When you get out of a place that is your place, you have to kind of think through some things in a fresh way. And that can be really productive."   Show notes: @jonathanshainin The Caravan The Caravan on Longform [8:00] The National [13:00] India: A Million Mutinies Now (V.S. Naipul • 1991) [pdf] [23:45] "Burger Queen" A profile of April Bloomfield. (Lauren Collins • New Yorker • Nov 2010) [29:00] "Falling Man"A profile of Manmohan Singh. (Vinod K Jose • The Caravan • Oct 2011) [29:00] "The Confidence Man" The crumbled cricket empire of Lalit Modi. (Samanth Subramanian • The Caravan • Mar 2011) [40:30] Behind the Beautiful Forevers (Katherine Boo • 2012) [41:00] "Notes from the Undercity" Review of Behind the Beautiful Forevers. (Jonathan Shainin • Bookforum • Feb 2012) [49:30] "The Departed" The return home of Kashmir's disillusioned militants. (Mehboob Jeelani • The Caravan • Sep 2012)