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For our 29th episode, I have invited my friend Perry Janssen to our podcast. Perry lives in Seattle where she has been a psychotherapist for the past 30 years. Perry has taught at the university level, she’s had her own column, she’s been a radio host where she’s interviewed and learned from the likes of Dr. Christiane Northrup and Dr. Dan Siegel. She’s also been an educator, consultant and coach for Microsoft, Amazon, Nordstrom, Boeing; the list goes on and on. I had a list of questions prepared but since our most popular episodes have been about emotion and feelings, I decided to just go with it. I call Perry the feelings expert. You can tell how passionate she is on the subject. Perry talks about: The importance of learning about the difference between realization and integration and why you need both for happiness. What happens when you ignore your feelings Why feelings aren’t good or bad but more like breadcrumbs or little gold nuggets. How we can actually learn from our feelings. Why there is absolutely nothing wrong with you Why Perry’s clients call her the Tennessee Hound Dog What true mindfulness really is Why many women don’t even know how to feel their feelings? How minimizing certain feelings can lead to minimizing all feelings. The fact that there is absolutely nothing wrong with you. You just have never been taught the skills to deal with emotion. You can find out more about Perry here, or listen to her podcast here. You may also reach out to Perry via email at tuneinwithPerryJanssen@gmail.com.
In this episode (31:15) In this podcast, Jennifer and Esteban interview Perry DeWitt, the Masters Agility Champion from this year’s Masters Agility Championship at Westminster. You Will Learn All about border collie Verb. How Perry uses a strict visualization routine in agility. Why Perry’s agility career was possibly delayed by 5 years. The top 10 dogs registered in the AKC in 2017 and why it matters to dog agility. Mentioned/Related Philly Dog Training Y2K9s High Octane Agility Watch Perry and Verb
Today’s guest is Perry Nickelston. Perry is a chiropractic physician with primary focus on performance enhancement, corrective exercise, and metabolic fitness nutrition. He is certified and trained as a Functional Movement Specialist (FMS) and Selective Functional Movement Assessment Specialist (SFMA). Perry is a master fitness trainer with over 25 years of experience in the industry, and runs the “Stop Chasing Pain” podcast. I’ve personally been on a journey for some time in the realms of corrective exercise and “activation/reset” based therapeutic means for helping the body achieve its original, or optimal, patterning. At a Neurokinetic Therapy seminar (I completed level 1 and 2), which was a really great course, a name that frequently came up at the seminar was Perry Nickelston. Ever since, I’ve been looking into Dr. Perry’s work, how I can better integrate concepts of corrective exercise into my own work, and also how these concepts tie into sport performance. This show has great ideas for any strength coach engaging in the host of modern corrective and activation based performance paradigms. It also has important implications that originate in therapy, but stretch out into every aspect of full blown athletic performance programming. On the show today, we’ll discuss ideas of “the core”, pain science, the minimal dose in treatment and corrective exercise, making corrective exercise more “sticky”, and more. Today’s episode is brought to you by SimpliFaster, supplier of high-end athletic development tools, such as the Freelap timing system, kBox, Sprint 1080, and more. Key Points: Perry’s background What is the core really when it comes to athletic function and movement What the science is saying about what pain actually is Why Perry doesn’t inflict pain in his treatment methods Factors that make corrective exercise stick and change technique over time The minimum effective dose in rehab and corrective exercise Function, dis-function and the nocebo effect The brain, safety and performance Quotes “Pain is the last thing you feel in any injury mechanism that’s not traumatic” “Human beings naturally like to overcomplicate everything” “Pain is not correlated to the amount of tissue damage that you have” “You can decrease someone’s pain by the nature of how you talk to them, how you touch them” “I don’t really care if you feel better after (treatment), what I’m looking for is “does it last”, because anything can make a temporary change on your nervous system, but if it doesn’t stick, to me it’s useless, and what I’m finding is, the harder you go on your nervous system but the more it pushes back. Not when I’m working on somebody, I don’t inflict any pain or any discomfort on any of the releases or movements that I’m doing” “If you inflict pain on your body when I’m trying to teach you a different movement pattern, it won’t let you learn it. Pain takes you into survival mode, and habit and compensation” “If your nervous system and your brain feel threat in any way, it shuts off learning. Period.” “I don’t even call it muscle testing anymore because the brain doesn’t think like that, I call it pattern testing. I’m looking for how your brain can pattern external force” “If you want to be a success, whatever that means for you, you have to embrace the willingness to look stupid” “One of the biggest things that helps (corrective exercise) stick is not doing too much, too hard, too soon” “(For fixing movement) I’ll put you down on the ground, and I get you into these ground based movement patterns, where you feel safe and you feel stable, because that’s where you learned to move in the first place” “When I make you move, I’m looking at if your nervous system is freaking out” “I don’t have a problem with the placebo effect…. this placebo stuff is beyond ridiculous!” “I don’t use the word stability anymore, I use the word safety.
Perry Marshall is one of the world’s most expensive and sought-after business consultants. Clients seek his ability to integrate engineering, sales, mathematics, biology, art, and psychology. He has launched two online revolutions. He pioneered many best practices in paid search and wrote the world’s bestselling book on web advertising, “Ultimate Guide to Google AdWords.” More recently, he’s turned 80/20 into a verb. 80/20 is not just a fact about your business, it’s action you take on your business. 80/20 is the central lever for every great strategy. His book “80/20 Sales & Marketing” is mandatory in many growing companies. He is referenced in dozens of influential business books by authors like Jay Conrad Levinson, Mark Joyner, Joel Comm, and Mari Smith. He’s shared the stage with Barbara Corcoran, Brian Tracy, and Les Brown, having consulted in over 300 industries. What you'll learn about in this episode Why Perry believes that there is going to be some massive dislocation somewhere in the world in the next year Why it’s important to know how things fundamentally work in the world How business & engineering are intertwined What Perry considers to be the biggest untold story in the history of science How cells are like entrepreneurs The story behind the swiss army knife concept Why Perry believes that there is a whole systematic creativity mechanism that is going on in nature that optimizes things Why evolution is always an intentional process Why you need to be a fearless seeker of the truth How best to connect with Perry: Website: cosmicfingerprints.com Book: “Evolution 2.0”