Podcast appearances and mentions of mark joyner

Business Growth Architect Show

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2022 15:58 Very Popular

A lesson that I learned from John Childers almost 20 years ago that is changing my life today. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. On today's episode, I want to talk about the reason why you need to record everything you say for the rest of your life. At least, most of the time. What's up, everybody? Okay. As you know, I am neck-deep in this process, where I am going deep into the archives of a whole bunch of things. We bought Dan Kennedy's company. I have this hard drive with everything that Dan Kennedy's ever said, every video, every audio, everything he's written. It's insane. 99% of it, no one's ever seen before. I'm finding these gems, these things. I'm pulling them out and we're republishing them. We're using them as lead magnets. We're using them as podcast episodes. We're using them as just all sorts of stuff. I'm having the time of my life. If you've been listening to my episodes lately, I'm also in this thing where I'm going and I'm buying all these old personal development books and old business books. Things that are in the public domain, which I'll probably do an episode more on what public domain is. But, basically, they are things that the copyright's expired, so I can take these things and I can republish them. Napoleon Hill, for example, I'm trying to piece together everything that he's ever said, every article he wrote. I'm finding all the old magazines, the newsletters, and all the things. I'm finding his old magazines. I'm finding all the books, courses, and times he's spoken. Just everything I can find. I'm gathering all this stuff, because I'm able to take all of these things that are in the public domain but the copyright's expired, and I can use them again, for lead magnets and for things like that. It's been interesting, because I've been going deep into these different things, all of Dan Kennedy's stuff, and then also, Napoleon Hill's and a bunch of other people I'm researching and finding. I'm finding all this stuff. It reminded me of an experience that happened to me about 20 years ago. I was at my very first internet marketing seminar ever. It was Armon Warren's big seminar. At the seminar, he had a speaker, named John Childers. John was actually one of the guys I first learned public speaking from. I don't remember everything John said that day, but I do remember one thing. He said, "Every time you talk, make sure you record it, because you can use those things for bonuses, and for lead magnets, for upsells, for all sorts of stuff." At first, I was like, "Why would I record myself? Who cares what I'm saying?" But I am very coachable. I said, "Okay. He told me to record myself, so I'm going to start doing it." I started recording all the things I do. I'd have conversations with cool people, and I would record them. In fact, back in the day, it was hard. I remember going to RadioShack and I bought this old cassette player. Then, in the cassette player, you had to hook it to your phone. It was hardwired into the thing and all these kind of things. Then, you could call someone. You'd click "record" on the thing and it would record the actual phone call. In fact, I wonder if I could find it. Mark Joyner, who was my very first mentor ever, I had a call with him and I remember recording it. He said something about, "That's a $10 million a year idea." I was like, "What?" I remember on the tape, I wrote "$10 million idea" on the front of this cassette tape. It was this call I had with Mark, way back in the day. Now, I'm wondering where in the world that could be. I want to find that. Anyway, I digress. I started recording everything. I had this thing hooked to my tape player and I'd click "record" every time I would call somebody, every time I'd do an interview. Every time I'd do everything, I was recording all these things. I had tons of them. It's interesting. Anyway, I'll come back to that. But then, I started doing my first courses and I recorded those. In fact, my very first course ever was called Public Domain How To, which was when I was first learning about public domain stuff, way back 20 years ago, which is fascinating. Anyway, you guys will see over the next 12, 18 months of my life, how much I'm doing inside the public domain. It's exciting. But I started that journey 20 years ago, when I first learned about it and I was doing all sorts of things. My first course I ever did was teaching people the process of finding public domain works, how to create derivative works, a whole bunch of really cool stuff, back in the day. That course, I recorded on my tape player from RadioShack. Anyway, it was so crazy. Then, I started interviewing people. I interviewed Vince James, who was the guy who made $100 million dollars selling supplements through direct mail. I recorded that on my little RadioShack recorder. Then, later, Teleseminar Alliance came out. I started recording teleseminars. Then, eventually, it was webinars. Then, I'd speak at events. I would just record all these different things. It's interesting, as I've been going down this path with Dan's stuff and with Napoleon Hill, and I'm trying to find these pieces, I started realizing, "I have tons of stuff in my archives that, someday, hopefully, when I die, there's going to be some dude like me, 200 years from now, who's going to be like, 'I want to find all of Russell's stuff, republish it, and sell it.'" I was like, "I'm going to make it easy for that person." I started going through all my old archives and my brother, who's been filming me for probably almost 15 years now, maybe longer, I'm like, "Scott, where's this?" He's finding all these old videos and the very first event I ever did. Then, just different places I spoke at and we're trying to find all the archives of this stuff. Then, we're putting them together. Some stuff's not relevant anymore. Some things are timeless. There's just all these amazing things. What I'm doing now, is I'm creating one-pagers. I don't know if you guys remember OnePager. OnePager is just one of my favorite tools. If you go to onepager.io, it's this tool, you can create one-pagers. Think of a one-pager like a lead magnet, a course, or something. It's all built in the software. It creates it on one page. I'm doing it now. I'm creating a one-pager off of each of these old things I have back in the day. My public domain how-to course, I had these audio files off my RadioShack tape player. We got them digitalized. I also have a workbook that I found in the archives, from that course. I'm making a one-pager. It's the public domain how-to and it's a one-pager with my four or five audio tracks, my PDF. It's all there. Now, it's the one-pager that I have. I'm doing that with my Affiliate Bootcamp. I'm doing it with my Underachiever Secrets. I'm doing it with Micro Continuity. I'm doing it with everything I've ever created in the past, forever. I'm trying to put it into these little one-pagers and I'm deleting the stuff that's not relevant, things that were very focused on the search engine algorithms at the time or whatever, but I'm trying to find all the times I talked, taught, or whatever, and I'm putting it into these one-pagers. You may be thinking, "Russell, why would you do that? That's a whole ton of stuff. Are you going to sell that?" The answer is, probably not, but I can use these things for bonuses. I can use them for affiliate contests. I can use them for bribes. I can use them for lead magnets. I can use them for all sorts of stuff. How many of you guys right now, after we do my first public domain launch, I'll be doing later this year, around a whole bunch of cool Napoleon Hill stuff I found. I launched that and you can see the process. I think, pretty conservatively, it will make at least $1 million dollars on the initial roll-out to our list. After I do that, if I came back and said, "Do you guys know that 20 years ago is the first time I learned about public domain? Now, 20 years later, I did a launch with some old stuff I found on eBay. We made $1 million dollars in a day, a week, or whatever it ends up being. How many of you guys would like to hear the original time I taught this, 20 years ago? I was awkward. I was shy. I have the actual audio files from my tape player that I got from RadioShack. I have the original PDF. There's a couple parts that are outdated, but who here would want that initial course? It's amazing. Okay. I'll give you that course if you register for my webinar, where I'm going to teach you guys about public domain. Or if you sign up for the Napoleon Hill thing, as a bonus, I'm going to give you this course that's going to show you how I found these public domain things and how I turn them into derivative works." But now, it's a bonus I can use. Now, I think we created 25 or 30 one-pagers of things in the past that I have. Literally, now that I have these things, I can republish them. I can give them this bonus. I can do anything I want. Let's say Dean and Tony wanted me to come up with something. I can look at my one-pagers, be like, "Here's three cool one-pagers from old events I did, that no one's seen in 20 years, that is amazing. I can bundle this together. I can add this together." Next time I'm creating an offer for one of my books, I can be like, "Here's my new book coming out. Here's three one-pagers I created from an event 10 years ago, that would actually be really cool as bonuses." All of a sudden, I can start stacking and creating things very quickly, very rapidly. Anyway, I wanted to share it with you guys, because there's times, even now... For example, last summer, my kids were at Scout camp, my twins. The church asked me if I'd go up, if I'd speak to the kids about goal-setting. I went up there and I spent 90 minutes talking to these kids about goal-setting. I don't want to pat myself on the back, but I'm really proud of it. It was a fire presentation. It was good. The kids were motivated. They were going crazy. I was in my element, because I'm trying to show off to my kids and all these kind of things. When it was done, I was like, "I wish I would've recorded that." How cool of a bonus would that have been, when I launch my new personal development book that's coming out someday, if I have a chance to write it, when that book comes out and I'm like, "Hey, here's the book, plus one time I did a summer camp for my kids and this was my one shot to sit in front of my kids, teach them how to have goals, how to have success, and all kind of stuff. The presentation was amazing and blah, blah, blah. I recorded it. Who wants the audio recording of that session? It is my kids and their friends at Scout camp." That would be an amazing bonus I could have included. There's so many other times, meeting with my team or other things, I was like, "I wish I would have recorded more things like this." I'm sharing this with you guys, because I want you to get in the mindset of, you need to be recording everything you're doing. Every phone call, every consult, every time you're talking to somebody, every time somebody comes in, every time you're in a unique situation where we're at an event, we're in a hotel room talking about this thing, and I pull my phone out and record it, because it's amazing. Now, it's become this underground bonus, that nobody else can get anywhere in the world. Anyway, it's just powerful. This is re-reminding me to be more intelligent about capturing myself and capturing my conversations. As you guys know, I record most of my stuff here on my iPhone and I just talk. People always ask me, "What mic do you use?" I literally just talk into my phone. There's no mic, but if you do want, there's a little iPhone lav mic on Amazon for $20 or something. It plugs into your phone. Then, it has a little thing. You can clip on the thing, and it makes the audio even better. But you could do that. Have a little thing, keep it in your pocket. In fact, I have one in my backpack. Keep it in your pocket, your backpack, or whatever. Then, when you're at a dinner and you're having a cool conversation about whatever your topic is, be like, "Hey, real quick, let's record this." Plug it in. "Okay. Now, say that again." Then, you'll capture this whole thing. All of sudden, now you have this secret unedited audio file from the dinner where your friend explained to you that blah, blah, blah. The thing that changed everything for you or whatever it is. In fact, one of my friends, Matt Bacak, I remember back in the day, he had this free plus shipping CD and it was called Pillow Talk. It was him and his wife sitting in bed, talking about their business. He just recorded it. And it's like, "Oh." It was this amazing thing, where it was just him and his wife talking about business. It became a free plus shipping offer that crushed it. How many different things like that? You could be in an airplane, reading or listening to podcasts, have an idea. Then, you sneak into the bathroom, then plug in your phone, be like, "Hey, I'm on the airplane bathroom right now. I just learned this cool thing. I'm so excited. I had to hide here to explain it to you, because I wanted to make sure I had it top-of-mind before I forgot it." It's the lost airplane bathroom interview, lost bathroom secrets, something, 30,000 feet in the air. The biggest thing, that was so powerful. I recorded this for my kids. I didn't want to lose it. It's just easy to make these hooks. Anyway, think about that, because as you're recording yourself, even if you're not going to use it right now, you can start using these things for so many different ways. People always tell me, "I created my product, Russell. What should I include as the bonus?" Then, they're trying to go create a bonus and trying to figure out things. It's like, "Man, if you would've been documenting these things while you were doing it, there's a million bonuses." I think we have 25 or 30 one-pagers that we've been building over the last week-and-a-half, two weeks, of just old stuff that I have. There's way more. I have way more things that we're going to be putting together and pulling more things together. But now, I have all these things in a spot where I can create an offer in a heartbeat. It takes me five seconds. I open a one-pager, look at my list of, "Here's all of Russell's one-pager's." Like, "Cool. I'm going to do a bonus. I'm going to give you this, this, this and this, if you come to my live event. I'm going to do this, this, this, if you buy my course." You see how fast I can do that now? Because I have the recordings of these amazing things. Then, the story behind the recording, of why it's so awesome. I wish Napoleon Hill would've done more of that. I wish Dan Kennedy would've done more of that. I wouldn't have to go and search these things, but for you and for me, we can do that today, right now. There you go. There's the feedback. Start recording everything you do. It can be audio. It could be video. It could be written. It could be text. I don't care. Do those things. Even right now, think about stuff you've already published. We went and found Dan Kennedy. He published a blog post for years. Then, their site went down and it was no longer available. We, literally, went back to the Wayback Machine, which shows snapshots of the old website. We had someone go through all of Dan Kennedy's old blog posts that he literally wrote himself. We copied and pasted them all. Now, if you go to magneticmarketing.com and click on "blog," those are literally blog posts from Dan, back in the day, that we found in the archives and posted there for you guys, because it's like, "Here's a gift." There's just so much cool stuff you can do from all the things you're creating. Just remember that as you're talking, you are creating. You can not record it and it's gone forever. Or you can record it, it can live on, and be used to benefit you over and over again. There you go. Record everything. Get a mic, just use your phone, or whatever. But just start capturing stuff. You never know how or when you're going to use it, but maybe you could use it. I would've never known 20 years ago, when I recorded my public domain course, that it's now going to be the sexiest thing. I guarantee all you guys want to buy that from me right now, don't you? Admit it. You want to buy it. You want a free copy. You'll register for webinar. You'll buy a product if I give that to you, won't you? Admit it. You all let me know. That way, I can put it together. Make some offer. Anyway, that's all I got. I'm going to bounce. I am so tired. I only slept 30 minutes last night. If I sound tired, maybe I'm talking too fast, or if I'm confusing at all, that's probably why. But the day's over. I'm going to go home and get some rest. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for listening. We will talk to you soon. P.S., before you hang up, did you guys know that Funnel Hacking Live is six months away? I've been calling speakers today all day and it's getting exciting. Depending on when you're listening to this, if you go to funnelhackinglive.com, you can get tickets there. Depending on when you listen, the sales page might be up with all the speakers, but this year's event is going to be insane. It's going to be different than any other event in the past, in a really cool way. I think you guys are going to love it. That's all I got. I appreciate you all. We'll talk to you soon. Bye, everybody.

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Ep #08: Mark Joyner: Making Things Simple

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2022 36:05

Have you ever wished things were a bit (or a lot) more simple? My guest for today's show is Mark Joyner, CEO of Simpleology. He is someone who has solved the problems that come with complexity and overwhelm, and he's here to share his valuable insight on how to double your free time and cut your workload in half through key simplification strategies. You can find show notes and more information here: https://bit.ly/3KPH9Cq

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899 – Managing Difficult Business Relationships with Mark Joyner

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2022 37:09

Ever hit a wall when it comes to managing business relationships? Mark Joyner and James explore communication blocks and how to deal with them.

899 – Managing Difficult Business Relationships with Mark Joyner

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2022 37:09

Ever hit a wall when it comes to managing business relationships? Mark Joyner and James explore communication blocks and how to deal with them.

897 – How to Think Better And Win Hostile Conversations with Mark Joyner

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2022 56:39

Have angry trolls put you in a place of fear and frustration? James has been there. This episode's guest, Mark Joyner, got him out, and shares how.

897 – How to Think Better And Win Hostile Conversations with Mark Joyner

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2022 56:39

Have angry trolls put you in a place of fear and frustration? James has been there. This episode's guest, Mark Joyner, got him out, and shares how.

♻️ Where To Focus For Exponential Wealth Growth (Featuring Mark Joyner)

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Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2022 62:22

For the month of January, we're rereleasing the most impactful episodes of Hustle & Flowchart. These are the ones that completely changed the way we think after we recorded them. Today, we're bringing back our episode with Mark Joyner. We recorded this episode in mid-2020, only a few weeks after everyone started being locked down. We dove deep into where to get your information and how to verify if the information is correct. This has become a more and more important topic as time has gone on because the world has changed so much and, still, people don't know who or what to believe. We also discussed how rapidly technology is changing and how you really need to be on the cutting edge to make it in the future. We'd love to hear your thoughts about these decisions over in the community Discord. Join us for free at www.HustleAndFlowchart.com/discord! Some Topics We Discussed Include: From being self-taught with no formal education to getting books published as textbooks How to go down the rabbit hole on a particular topic while not getting misled by the media Who can you really trust when watching the news? What is ‘The Big Five Phenomena' and why it's not necessarily a good thing Epistemological illiteracy and how it relates to your beliefs How the rate of paradigm shifts has constantly increased and what you can do to keep up What do Astroturf and Coco Puffs have in common? How to survive in this new landscape Untold secrets even with top-level CIA clearance Why the future is in the hands of entrepreneurs and how you can be a part of it References and Links Mentioned: Subscribe To The Hard Fork Media Channel Join the Discord Community Matt on Twitter | Joe on Twitter Resources From Mark Joyner: Your Roadmap To Money: A Cautionary Tale Of Hope (Free Book) Simpleology.com Our video interview with Mark Joyner Will Humans Become Obsolete In The Near Future? - Mike Koenigs Big Tech Will Crush Your Online Business (What To Do About It) - Rich Schefren Subscribe & Review To The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast Thanks for tuning into this week's episode of the Hustle & Flowchart Podcast! If the information in our weekly conversations and interviews have helped you in your business journey, please head over to iTunes, subscribe to the show, and leave us an honest review. Your reviews and feedback will not only help us continue to deliver great, helpful content, but it will also help us reach even more amazing entrepreneurs just like you!

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Ep. 5: Mark Joyner

Zero Limits Living TV

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2021 54:23

This episode of Zero Limits Living is one you will not want to miss! Join Dr. Joe Vitale as he interviews the author Mark Joyner, for an in depth episode on how to really better yourself and change the New Year for you!Download the LuxeTV app to watch anytime, anywhere!

What's Your Return On Relationship...? (1 of 3)

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2021 29:42

On this special 3 part series, you get to hear Russell's presentation at the ROR (Return on Relationships) Symposium! Russell discusses the importance of what he calls the “Dream 100”, and how it helps create relationships that support both his business and his personal life. Check out RORUniversity.com to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey. What's going on, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Want to welcome you back to The Marking Secrets podcast. I got something special for you guys over the next three episodes. I'm actually on vacation right now, Thanksgiving vacation. My wife and my kids and I are all in Kauai, Hawaii. You might hear them giggling in the background depending on how well this microphone picks up noise. And so, I didn't have a chance to record a podcast for the next couple episodes, but before I left on vacation, I actually had a chance to be part of a really cool summit that my friend, Christopher Voss put on called The ROR Symposium. And he had me as one of his keynote speakers, and he had me talk about just my history, my journey, using relationships, and joint ventures, and things like that. The Dream 100, as I call it, to build my business and everything we've done over the last almost 20 years now. And so, it was a really special presentation. It was one that I came to with notes, but not PowerPoint slides and things like that. It was more, I just wanted to kind of share from my heart. And if you know Christopher Voss you know he's a very emotional person and he brings that emotion. And apparently, I found out afterwards, all the speakers end up crying. In fact, I did as well during my presentation. So, there's something really special in the middle that you'll find out about. But anyway, I hope you really enjoy these. They're going to help you to learn how to build joint ventures, how to find your Dream 100, how to build better relationships with people, and how to turn that into more business and help you to get your mission out there to change more people's lives. If you don't know who Christopher Voss is, I recommend following him. He told me that the best site to send you guys to... I said, "Where should I send people to listen who want to go deeper with you and learn more about relationships and how to build businesses using them?" And he said theroruniversity.com would be the best place for you guys to go. So, if you want to go deeper with Chris, go to roruniversity.com, check out what he's got there. And with that said, I'm going to cue the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to hear the first part of my keynote presentation. As I was kind of thinking through this, I was like, "Man, there's 30-something speakers coming. Everyone's talking about different ways to do this ROR, return on relationship game. And everyone's got different ideas and things, and it got me to back, man, almost 19, 20 years ago now. And so I... If you guys are cool with it, I just want to do some story time and tell you guys my story and some of the things along the journey that I tried, that I... failures, the successes, specifically inside of this relationship, and joint venture partners, and things like that. And hopefully, it'll give you guys some comfort. Because everyone starting different points and sometimes you look at someone like me like, "Oh, well, Russell knows Tony Robbins, and Dan Kennedy," and da, da, da. But there was a day, 18, 19, 20 years ago where I was a little kid scared out of my mind awkwardly trying to message people pre-Facebook. So, I'm sending emails and trying to... and it was scary, and hard, and so hopefully, it'll give you some faith in wherever you are in your journey. Just like, "Okay, this is right. It's going to be good." It's going to be for some of us, especially the introverts like me, this is going to be something that kind of stretches you and feels uncomfortable sometimes, but then it can become something you really love and enjoy and gives you the ability to change the world at a level you never thought was possible. So, that's kind of my game plan. Then after that, we can open for some Q&A and... or whatever we want to do. Or we can celebrate, have a party, or we can sing Christopher's song and let him have a nap. Hey, whatever we want to do, it'll be fun. So, looking back, it's funny, because when I got started in this business, I was still in college. So, I had just met my beautiful wife, Colette, who I think we're celebrating our... I think it's our 20th anniversary this summer, which is crazy. So, she's stuck around my chaos for this long and she's... Gosh, she's the best. But we had just gotten married and I was trying to figure out how to support her. I was wrestling and I didn't want to quit wrestling, so I'm like, "How do I wrestle and do all these things at once?" And so, I did what most people do and I went to Google and typed in how to make money. Right? Which, who here has done that at one point in your career? And you go on this rabbit trail, right? Of like, "Whoa, there's a lot of things to do." And everyone's got a different thing, and you start joining email newsletters. You know what those are at first and you start getting these emails from all these people, and then for me, it was like I was reading blogs and then I was joining... They didn't have Facebook groups back then. They had forums. So, I was joining the Warrior forum and How-To Court forum, and then... Anyway, there's like 20 or 30 different forums. So, all day long I'm reading forums of people, and I'm getting emails, and I'm learning all these things. And it was interesting because I was learning all the different pieces, right? Some people would talk about SEO and that's what they geeked out on. So, I started reading all the SEO articles, and I started learning how to do SEO and backlinking. So, I was like, "Oh, this is how you make money." And then someone else was like, "SEO's stupid. This is how we make money," and they had a whole different strategy. And then someone else had a different strategy, and soon I was just looking at all these shiny objects and I was like, "I don't know which one I'm supposed to do." How many of you guys ever felt that before? There's like 8,000 things. Like, "Russell said funnel. Someone else said this." Like, "Ah." And so, I was in that as well, and so I was just like... I got in this perpetual learning phase, right? Where I was learning and studying, and learning and studying. Then I started watching what was happening. Right? And I was on all these different email lists, but then it seemed like it was coordinated. Once every couple months, all of a sudden I would get an email from 30 or 40 people who somehow I had got on their email lists and all of them would be talking about the same product at the exact same time. Right? And all of a sudden you're like, "Oh, my gosh. Everyone's talking about this thing." Right? And I think the first ones I saw there was an old e-book called Google Cash. And it's how people are making money on Google doing Google ads. It was Chris Carpenter's offer, and he had gotten a whole bunch of affiliates. I don't know how at the time, but he had a whole bunch of affiliates all promote at the same time, so my inbox... And I'm at college opening my inbox and there's like 40 emails from people all talking about this book. I'm like, "This is the thing everyone's talking about. It's got to be the secret." I was so excited. And I went and paid this $67 for an e-book, which no one knew what e-books were back then and we were all confused. Literally, I remember messaging the support team and I was... like two weeks later. I'm like, "When's the book going to show up?" And they're like, "It's digital." I'm like, "I don't know what that means." They're like, "It means you download it." And again, 20 years ago, that was like... that was weird. That wasn't a thing that nowadays we all get it. But back then... And so I download this book, and I'm trying to read it, and I was just like, "I paid $67 for a PDF. My wife's going to kill me when she finds out." But I'm reading it and I'm getting all excited like t's next big thing, and all of a sudden, there's this next promotion and everybody's talking about this next thing. I'm getting all these... like 20, 30 emails. And I was like, "It's got to be this," so I jumped over there, and it's started me on this rabbit trail. And I just remember being confused, and overwhelmed, and all the things a lot of us go through. Right? And about that time... This was probably the very first ever high-ticket... Not even high-ticket, like $1,00 product. There was this guy, and I didn't know who he was at the time, but again, all of a sudden the emails start flying in my inbox. Right? And they're all for this guy. They say this guy is the godfather of internet marketing and he's retiring. And because of that, he's giving away his entire empire, everything he's built. And he called it the farewell package. Like, "This is my farewell from the internet. I'm done. I'm out. I've made millions of dollars, now I'm leaving." And his name was Mark Joyner. And I didn't know who Mark was at the time, but I started reading the emails and the stuff, and I was just like, "This is the greatest thing in the world." Right? So, I remember going to the sales page, reading through it ready to try to buy it for 20, or 30 bucks, or whatever, and the price went was $1,000. And I was like, "Oh, I do not have $1,000. I've never had $1,000." My wife was working, supporting at the time, and she was making, I believe $9.50 an hour. So, I mean, it would take her, man, over 100 hours. No, because you got taxes. Probably 200 hours of her working, so that's a lot of time to pay for this $1,000 course. I remember looking at it and I was like, "Oh, I don't have any money. I'm a broke wrestler." I had just gotten married, therefore, now I'm living off my wife who's making $9.50 an hour as a receptionist where she was working at. And I was like, "There's no way I can do it." And so, I remember not being able to buy it, not being able to buy it, but I kept seeing the emails, and the promotions, and the urgency, and the scarcity, and it eventually got to the point where it was about to sell out. Probably five or six weeks into this whole thing and about to sell out. And they were closing down the cart. And I remember the night before... This is... Again, for those of you who are newer before there were webinars, there were things called teleseminars where you would pick up the phone, and you would call, and you'd just listen to people talk. And so, I called this teleseminar, and on the teleseminar these guys are talking about the Mark Joyner Farewell Package. And it was just... It was going to be gone the next day and you had to get it. And I remember listening to it and being sick to my stomach and laying in bed that night, and I was like, "I have to do it. This is my thing," and being so stressed out. And finally, the next morning I was still laying in bed. My wife woke up and I was like, "Colette, I know I bought a lot of stupid things that I haven't done anything with any of it yet, but I think this is the one. I think this is the thing." I remember asking her. I was like, "Can I buy it?" And she said something like... In fact, I talked about it. I wrote it in the Traffic Secrets book, this story, but she's like, "Well, do you think this is the one for you?" I was like, "I think this is the one." She's like, "Okay, then here's our credit card." And we only had like a $500 credit limit I had to call up my bank like, "Can you double our limit to 1,000?" This is how like green we were back then. And we did it, and I bought the course, and I remember I got the course and there was like 15 CDs, all these interviews. And so, I started listening to the CDs, and what was crazy, as Mark was talking, he kept talking over and over and over again, about two concepts. The first one was the power of your own list. He kept talking about, "You have to have your own email list, and this is how it works, and if you have an email list of 10,000 people, you send an email out to your offer, you can sell a whole bunch of your things." And I started realize, I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. This is literally what's been happening to me. I'm on all these people's email lists. They have a big email list and send an email, and if I buy a $1,000 course, they must have made 500 bucks." And I started putting the pieces together. It's like, "Oh, my gosh. This is how it works." And some of you guys... I'm not going to tell the whole story, but some of you guys have heard my story. After listening to two or three of these CDs I was like, "I need an email list." And I went down that whole journey where I got called a spammer and... Anyway, so that's... Insert that story there. I'm not going to tell that story because it's outside the context of this event. But I started trying to send email and it didn't work. And I was just like, "This thing Mark is teaching me, I need to have an email list, but everyone's got one, except for me. I don't have a list. It's not fair." And I kept listening to Mark's course, and as he got deeper and deeper in the course, he started talking about this thing called joint ventures. And he was like, "Every time you start a new company or launch a new product, the first thing we do before you buy ads or anything is we go and we have these different partners who all already have email lists." He's like, "Go with people who already have email lists, and then some of them will promote and send traffic to my thing, and that's how you make money." And I was like... I was just seeing... You know there's those curtain in front of your face, and the curtain's lifted? I saw the Wizard of Oz. I'm like, "This is how it works. You have to have an email list. If you don't have an email list, you find other people with email lists, and they promote your offer, and then the people buy your product, and then you have an email list." And I was like... It all started making sense in my head. I was like, "Okay." And then I did what I'm sure all of you guys did, especially if you've read Traffic Secrets book... And I didn't know what this was called at the time. I didn't have words for it, but it was basically my first Dream 100. I was like, "Okay. Who's got an email list?" Like, "Mark said people have email lists. We need to find people with email lists," and so that was kind of the next question. And so, I started making my first Dream 100 list. And it was funny because I had this farewell package I bought from Mark Joyner and he had all the people he interviewed. So I said, "Well, this is my Dream 100, all the people Mark interviewed." And so, I don't remember most of the names. I do remember Joe Vitale though. He was one of the names. And some of you guys know Joe Vitale. If you go to mrfire.com, he's written like 400 books. He's awesome. I wrote Joe Vitale down. I started writing other people's names down. And so, I remember I'm building this Dream 100 list and I was like, "Okay, this is easy. I'm just going to email them all, and then they're going to promote my thing, and I'm going to be rich. This seems really awesome." Right? And I'm sure some of you guys have thought of that before. Hopefully, it's not just me. So, I start emailing Joe Vitale, and I can't remember all the other names. Joe's the one that stuck out in my head. I remember emailing them all and then just waiting like, "Okay, they're going to respond back to me, and then this is going to be this big thing, and I'm going to make a bunch of money." And I think I had my first or second product at the time, so it was like I had a product for them to sell and everything. Sent all the emails out and it was crickets. Not one person wrote back to me. And I was like, "Huh." I was like, "Okay, either this Mark Joyner's full of crap or I need to send another email." So, being a relentless person, I send another email to all them like, "Hey, Joe Vitale. Did you not get my email? Because I've got this new product and if you promote it, we can split the money 50/50. It's going to be awesome." Right? Like he's for sure... Like, "I'll even give you 60% commission." Maybe I'll blow his mind. Right? So, I tell him this thing, crickets. Nobody responds back to me. And I remember just being like... I was like, "This internet thing doesn't work." So, I remember being frustrated and just not knowing what to do, not believing this JV thing actually worked. Assuming that it's impossible to build an email list and I was stuck in that rut for a while. Probably, I don't know how many, four or five months of this rut of just like, "It didn't work. I tried." And have you guys done that where you try something somebody told you and then you're like, "Oh"? It reminds me of... Well, never mind. I'm not going to tell that story, but it reminds me of just so many of us do that where we're trying to follow a guru. We try the thing and it doesn't work, and we're like, "Oh, it didn't work." It's like, maybe we just didn't execute it quite correctly. So, fast forward a little while later there was this internet marketing event. It was Armand Morin. It was called the Big Seminar back then. And it was the seminar in the industry. Kind of like Funnel Hacking Live is nowadays. It was the seminar. And so, I remember saving up some money and we flew out to... And I had made a little bit of money online at this point. Not a lot. I was making, I don't know, maybe 1,000 bucks a month or something. So, I had a little bit of money just so I didn't have to yell... borrow more money from Colette's credit card to go and go to this event. So, I fly out to this event. It's in Atlanta. I go to the seminar and I remember thinking, "All the speakers on stage, I'm going to get all... That's going to be my next affiliates or my next people I'm going to be partners with." And so, we're seeing all the speakers and they seem bigger than life. They're on stage, and they're talking, and I was just like, "If any of these guys promoted my product, I'd be rich." That's the thing going through my head. Right? And so, I'm seeing them, writing all their names down. I'm like, "I'm going to become partners with them and become friends with them. I'm going to go meet them face-to-face. Maybe that's the secret. If I meet them face-to-face then it'll be easy." Unfortunately, I'm insanely introverted, and shy, and scared. So, I'm at the event, I see the person walking by. I remember seeing Stephen Pierce. He was the guy at the time. He walked past and I was just like... He walked right past me, and he walked past, and I'm like, "Ah, I blew it. Stupid, Russell. Stupid, Russell. You didn't even talk to him." And I'm sitting there in the hallway and all of a sudden Armand... Actually, I was in the bathroom and Armand walked next to me in the urinal next to me. I'm like, "Armand's right here. What do I do? Do I say something? I can't say in the bathroom. It's so awkward." And he looks over and he is like, "Hey, man. How's it going?" I'm like, "Good." And he is like, "All right," and then walks away and walks out of the bathroom. I'm like, "Ah, I blew it again. I blew it again." You know? And I'm too scared to talk to any of the speakers, but I'm like... For me, I'm like, "This is the key. This is the key to my freedom is these speakers," and I didn't dare do it. I wimped out every single person. I didn't talk to a single one of them. And then at nights, all the attendees would go to the bar. Now, I'm not a drinker. I've never drank in my life. Most people don't believe me, but I've literally never drank in my entire life. So, I'd go to these bars and I was like, "I don't want people to think I'm drinking," because like I have a thing like that where I want to avoid the appearance of evil at all costs. Right? So, I remember I'd go to the bar and I was like, "Ah, how do I..." And literally, the bartender was like, "You want something to drink?" I was like, "Can you give me milk?" He was like, "Seriously?" I'm like, "I don't know. Can you?" I was like "Because if it's going to be a Sprite, people going to think it's some fizzy drink." I don't know. I don't even know what drinks are. Like, "It's going to be fizzy something." So, I'm like, "If you give me milk they're going to know that it's not alcohol." Right? So, he's like, "All right." So, the guy gives me a milk. I'm holding this milk at the bar walking around and everyone's like... All these people start coming to me, which is really cool, and they're like, "Are you drinking milk?" I was like, "Yeah." They're like, "Why are drinking milk?" I'm like, "Oh, well, I'm Mormon, so I don't drink." They all kind of laugh at me, but it opened dialogue when they came to me. And this is... Okay, side note. Interesting for the introvert. Who are the introverts in the room? If you're introvert, I learned something really cool. Nicholas Bailey actually told me this. He dresses weird because he's introverted and he's too scared to go talk to people. He's like, "If I do something weird," he's like, "people come to me and like, 'Oh, nice shirt. Nice glasses. Nice,'" blah, blah, blah, blah. And so, that's what happens. I had this weird thing, and then people came to me. They're like, "Why are you drinking milk in a bar?" And then it started a conversation, and then when I'm in a conversation I can do it. It's the walking up to. Like, "How am I going to go and..." You know what I mean? So scary for me. And so, people started talking to me. We started becoming friends and get to know people, and I'm talking in this group, and it was interesting because everyone I was talking to, they all had businesses just like me, but they weren't the guy on stage with a list of 100,000 people and all this kind of stuff They were here and they had a list of like 500 people. Or I got a list of 1,200 people. They were all kind of at this level. About the same level I was at. I was like, "Oh, my gosh," and we started talking, getting to know each other. And back then it was before Skype or before... It was pre-Skype. It was pre... What do we use nowadays? Slack or Instant Messenger. Whatever. We used to use Yahoo Messenger, or IRQ, or AOL, and so it always like, "What messenger are you on? Here's my AOL chat," or, "Here's my IRQ." Or ICQ Sorry. ICQ. Or, "Here's my..." And so, they give them to you, and so that was how we get to know people. So, I put it out, write it down, and then I remember the people. I remember Mike Phillip's name was on Yahoo Messenger. His name was signanddrive.com. And I remember Brad Callen. I remember Brad Fallon. And so, I started meeting all these people at the bar while I'm drinking my milk, and getting to know them, and I'm writing down all their little handles. And then we get home and away from the event, and so I start putting those things in and I start messaging them. I feel way more comfortable talking through text, through Yahoo Messenger. I was like, "Hey, great meeting you at the event," blah, blah, blah. "This is a picture of me so you remember who I was." Right? And the person would write back, "Oh, yeah. It was really cool. You were the guy with the milk, right?" I'm like, "Yeah." And we'd start this dialogue. And then I was like, "Okay..." Not even thinking that these guys would be big partners someday, but I kind of started getting to know these people. And we were all kind of the same level. And this is the key. Okay? I'm trying to tell stories with hopefully principles you guys can pick from it. So, all these people were at the same level. And I remember because at the same time I was messaging Joe, Vitale, and messaging all the speakers in the event, and none of them are responding to me. It's just like crickets. No one's responding back. I'm talking to these guys. And I remember I was creating an offer and these guys had become my friends. And I was like, "Hey, can you check this out? Do you think this is good? Is the offer good?" And they started messaging back, and all of a sudden they started becoming involved in my business, right? They had a vested interest because they were kind of like, "Oh, I would do this," or, "I'd try this over here. And all of a sudden they started sharing ideas back and forth and it was really cool. And then they would share with me what they were doing back and forth, and it was really, really cool. And I had vested interest in their projects because I was like, "Oh, you should try this, or, "Oh, I did this. You should try this." We built this little group of people. And I don't even know. It was probably four, five, six people maybe that we kind of did this thing. And I remember because about this time is when my very first software product ever came out, and I don't talk much about this product. It was a product called ZIP Brander, and I was so proud of it. And I remember I sent it to Mike Filsaime. I was like, "Hey, here's my first software. Check it out." He was like, "Dude, that's so cool. Do you want me to promote it to my list?" And I was like, "Wait, he just asked me." Like never it happened. I was just like, "I've been asking all these people at this level up here, all the people I'm looking up to, the gurus, the big famous people. No one, crickets, and all of a sudden my friend's, like, 'I'll promote it to my list.'" And I was like, "Dude, you serious?" He's like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Okay." And so I give him the link. He sends an email to his list, and I can't remember. I paid him like 50, 60, 70. I don't know. I was like, "You can have all the money. I just want... I need a list. I know the goal. The goal to get a list. I'll give you 100% commission." Right? And so, he promoted and I think he sold... I don't know, he sold five or six copies of my thing, but then I got the money, and then I gave most of it to him. But then what happened is I got five or six customers, but a bunch of people... I had a pop-up on the site. A bunch of people filled out the pop-up, and I got like 300 or 400 people on my email list. And I was like, "This is awesome." And then I knew Mike had a product, and I was like, "Hey, man." I was like, "Dude, I love..." He had a product called Carbon Copy Marketing back then or something. It was a two-disc DVD set. And this is before DVD, so he literally would go and he would print a DVD and ship it out to you from his house. This is how... 20 years ago. Remember, this is before things like that. And so, he said, "Yeah." So, I emailed my list of like 300 people from him the 400 or 500 people I built, so maybe a thousand from my list. I sent the email and I sold like five or six of his DVDs. And he is like, "Thanks, man." And we did our first little cross-promotion, and me and Mike became friends. And then Mike told me. Then Mike's like, "Dude, you know who you should do? I met this guy named Gary Ambrose. You should meet Gary because Gary has got a list too, and he promoted the same DVDs you just promoted and it was awesome. You should get to know him." So, he introduced me to Gary. Me and Gary met up, and I was like, "Oh." And Gary and I started sharing ideas, and then eventually he promoted my things, I promoted his, and then Gary's like, "Oh, dude, you should meet so and so." And I was like, "Oh, you should meet..." And all of a sudden we started this little four or five people start introducing more and more people, and soon I've got 20 or 30 friends all on Yahoo Messenger and AOL that we're talking back and forth and getting to know each other. Right? And what's interesting is that we all kind of helped promoting each other. Our list went from 400 or 500 people to 1,000 to 1,500, to 1,000 to 2,500, and they kept growing and growing. And I was looking at this little group of people all working together. It was like a groundswell where our businesses all started gradually rising together. What do they say? A rising tide raises all ships, right? That's what started happening. And we started getting bigger and bigger. I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. This is so cool." And then we started doing more things and this is, man, a two or three-year period of time while I was in college, we were going back and doing these things. And it was just... It was really, really cool. Right? And I remember one day Mike had this idea, Mike Filsaime had this idea for a product called Butterfly Marketing. Some of you guys may have heard of it, but it was the first time he had the idea. And he's like, "Hey, man, check out the sales letter." He had this huge sales letter. And on the sales letter, he had these testimonials from all the people. All the people you'd want, right? I was like, "How'd you get all those guys' testimonials?" He's like, "Oh, I didn't. I just put their pictures in just as the placeholders as a dream of someday I'm wanting to get these people's testimonials." I was like, "Oh, that'd be so cool to get to know them." And then he's like, "Well, I met so and so. I know so and so who does know that person," and all of a sudden this network started happening, right? Anyway, Mike went and started messaging and eventually got to the person, one of the people, and they gave him a thing, and all of a sudden he got a bigger promotion from a bigger person. And what happened is, is we started doing this. Again, the people I looked up to were way up here and they wouldn't respond to me and things like that. And this group down here became friends. We all started growing together, and eventually what started happening is as we got bigger and bigger and bigger, we got closer to these people. I remember probably, man, two years, maybe three years into this business I had an idea. And I was creating this whole project. It was a membership site. It was called The Lost Files, and it was based on old public domain books, which I could talk about for six years. But it's this geeky, nerdy thing that you can make money with. And so I got excited, I'm creating this thing, and I was like, "Joe Vitale, he's written like 500 books." I'm like, "Oh, Joe would be my dream person." I know Joe had talked about public domain in the past. Joe had actually published a couple books from the public domain. And I was like, "He'd be my dream partner." But I was like, "He's ignored like 40 emails from me. There's no way he's going to respond to me now." Right? But I was like, "Oh, I got to do something." So, I remember I messaged him again this time and I was like, "Hey, Joe. Sorry to bug you. I have this new site." I explained what my site, thelostfiles.com. Like, "This is what is, how it works," and everything. And then the next day I get email back from Joe, and I was too scared to even open it. I'm like, "This is crazy." And Joe messaged me back. He's like, "Hey, Russell, so good to meet you." He's like, "I've been seeing your name everywhere. All these different people keep promoting your stuff. They keep popping up in my inbox. The Lost Files sounds awesome." The way he made the connection, he didn't... I don't think he... He didn't connect that it was me who was annoying him for like 40 emails prior. He just didn't connect it. Or maybe he just ignored it, or he forgave me, or whatever, but he message back and said, "Yes." And I was like, "Joe Vitale said yes." And I was freaking out. And so he goes and he does this... We had this promotion where we had a teleseminar together. He promoted his list. And then at the teleseminar he promoted The Lost Files, and we signed up like 300 members off his list at like 40 bucks a month, which for a college kid, is insane. And it was this one deal, and then Joe was like, "Oh, by the way, have you ever met so and so, and so and so?" and starts opening these doors again. Now, because I've gotten closer and closer, I got one person in and all of sudden it opened up this whole network of people. And that was my journey for the first three or four years. And so I wanted to kind of lead with that because again, I think so many of you guys are like me where you see the people. I meet people all the time. "Russell, you say to build a Dream 100 list, I've got to dream one, and it's just you." And I'm like, "Not a good strategy." I literally said Dream 100 for a very important reason because it shouldn't be me. I do maybe one promotion a year and usually, it's for Tony Robbins. And so, for me to say yes, it's going to be like... We got to date for a decade before it's going to happen, so if you're banking on that it's going to be a long, long time for something to happen, right? I was like, "Instead, go and do things with people at your own tier, your own level where they're looking for things, and looking for cross-promotions, and things will start happening. And then what happened is you start rising to the top, and all of a sudden people like me are going to start seeing you. You show up my news feed. I start seeing emails." All of a sudden it's like now there's this relationship, right? It's funny. There's... This is a funny story. So, one of my buddies, I met him probably... It's probably been 12 years ago now. Some of you guys know him. He's Chad Wallner. He's a chiropractor. I talk about him in the Dot Com Secrets book. But he moved into our area, and so we go to church. We were going to the same church, and so he shows up and he sees me. And he was seeing me online. He knew I was and stuff. He came to me and he's like, "Russell." He's like, "Dude, this is so... I can't believe you're in my ward. I've seen you before," blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. And he's like, "We actually have a mutual friend together." And I was like, "We do?" He's like, "Yeah." So, he's trying to build a connection so we can connect and stuff. And it was interesting because he said, "We got this mutual friend." And then he told me the name. He's like, "Here's the guy's name." And I was like, "Don't know who he is." He was like, "Oh, weird." He's like, "He talks about you all the time as if you guys were best friends." I was like, "I don't know who that is. I'm so sorry." And years later, Chad and I had this discussion about this and it was funny because he was like, "Man, I..." The realization is it's not who you know, it's who knows you. Right? I knew who Joe Vitale was. I knew who these people... I knew Tony Robbins. So, I wanted them, but it's not that I know them. I need them to know me. Right? So, it's how do you get them to know you? Well, it's by doing cool stuff in the market that they're playing in. Showing up. Will they see you in news feeds, see you in emails, see you in stuff? Where all of a sudden they keep seeing these things and then they see you. They got to know who you are. Right? When you approach them like, "Hey, my name is so and so," if they don't know who you are, it's going to be really hard to build a relationship. If they're like, "Hey, this is so and so," it's easy. For example, I was trying to do a negotiation with someone the other day. I wish I could tell you all the details. I can't though. Anyway, really big company. You'd be aware of who they are. And so, I tried to get a meeting with the founder of it, and we get on a Zoom call like this, and the very first thing he says, he's like, "Man, Russell," he's like, "I see you like 12 times a day. You are everywhere in my news feed. I get emails from you. You must be the best internet marketer on the planet." And I was like, "This is going to be the easiest negotiation in my entire life because he knows exactly who I am." Right? As opposed to me coming to him and trying to explain who I was. Right? And so it's like, as you're doing stuff actively in the marketplace, people will start seeing that and become aware of you. Right? And that's how you start rising to the top. I get people all the time that message me like, "Hey, can I speak at Funnel Hacking Live?" I'm like, "I don't know who you are." Like, "I'm the best speaker. Here's my speaker," blah, blah, blah. I'm like, "I don't know who you are." Right? But check this out. McCall Jones, who I think is on here, or she was on here earlier, right? McCall, she showed up on Funnel Hacking Live. Then she does this thing, and then she starts publishing, and she starts doing everything, and I start seeing her everywhere. I see her energy and her excitement. I see how she's developing things. She's like using things she learned from me, but developing her own things, which was really cool. Because I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. She's a good student and she's doing things." And this whole thing starts happening, and I see her in my feed. I see her all the time. And my friends start talking about her, and then Monica, who's on this as well. Monica messaged me. There's McCall right there. Yeah. What's up? And Monica messaged me, "You know McCall? You got to..." And so, her friends are calling me and telling me to listen and stuff. And soon, I'm watching everything she's doing. And I'm like, "Oh, my gosh, I'm impressed." I start podcasts. How many... Once or twice I talked about you on the podcast before we even met officially. I'm like, "This girl McCall keeps showing up. She's doing these cool things." And on Funnel Hacking Live, I'm like, "Who should speak on Funnel Hacking Live?" I'm like, "There's this girl who's never spoken on stage before. Right? She's never... Doesn't like, 'Here's my speaker reel. I've got a perfect presentation.'" But I'm seeing that. I was like, "She'd be like the perfect person to come on stage and, and speak." And so anyway... Hey, McCall. What's up? McCall Jones: Thank you. Wow, that's so nice. I'm just hyping you up, over here reacting to all of your stuff, so hey. Funnel Hacking Live. Woo hoo! Russell: All right. But conceptually, you guys, it make sense. If you want to get into, they call it the good old boys club. Like, "How do I get in the good old boys club?" It's the way you get into it is you have to infiltrate it. And it starts finding people at your own level and start playing the game, start moving forward, start making noise, start doing stuff, and then people are going to start seeing you and start becoming aware of you.

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I Bought Dan Kennedy's Company!! Here is the Plan Over the Next 12 Months!!!

Screw The Commute Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2021 13:52

Recently I acquired my mentor's company, and we're working over the next 12 months turning it around. If you want to know what we're doing and why, listen to this episode. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys have an amazing day. I had a really fun, interesting week working with Dan Kennedy's company, Magnetic Marketing, and a whole bunch of other cool things. Some of you guys may or may not have heard, but we acquired his company recently. And with that, we got 40 years of intellectual property. And so this episode, we'll talk about what we're doing with it all, what it's going to look like, why I'm so excited, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. All right. So number one, how cool is this? I keep pinching myself. When I first got in this game, my first mentors, my first internet mentor really was Mark Joyner, which helped get me to a certain level. And then I started looking for more stuff and that's when I bumped into Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer, and I started going to their mastermind groups and their events. And man, it really was like the next evolution for me is just really understanding these core principles and things that have been working since the beginning. I always kind of tease these guys are teaching how to use fax machines and the Pony Express to deliver marketing messages, because a lot of it was like direct mail bootcamps and stuff like that, all kind of older school stuff. And at first it didn't make sense to me how this stuff worked until really I started realizing through Dan that these things that we all think we are, like we think we're internet marketers, he's like, "No, no, no." He's like, "The internet is a channel. It's a media channel." And a lot of us, we think Facebook, Instagram, YouTube is media channels, but for Dan's rule, it's like the internet's one channel. There's direct mail, there's TV, there's radio, and internet is a channel. And nowadays obviously it is I think the best and the coolest channel, but the principles and the philosophies and the psychology and the persuasion and all the things that are working today on the internet are things that were pioneered and developed through direct mail, through TV, through radio. And so, so much of Dan's stuff, he's had a chance to work with everybody for the last 40 years. I say 40, not four, the last 40 years has been just kind of all around these things. And it's just like ... Anyway, so I digress. Again, when I was getting into this, I started learning those things and all the sudden I was like, oh my gosh, the things I'm learning that they did in their fax marketing or their direct mail, I can use on the internet, I can use on the Facebook ads, I can use, and for me really, it was what changed my business. And honestly, for most of you guys, your businesses, as well. A lot of you guys probably don't even know that the core foundations that ClickFunnels were built on were the principles that I learned from Dan Kennedy and that we just turned it into software and turned it something that everybody could do. So that's why it's so exciting. And we recently acquired the company, which is a huge honor for me because I have this unique opportunity and chance now to take my mentor's stuff and to continue it on and bring it into the future. And I'm excited. So this week, on Monday, Tuesday, this week, we had the existing Magnetic Marketing team, the people that are still there, the company flew out here to Boise, and we spent two days kind of figuring out what's the plans, what's the future? How do we get this thing back to the point where there's 10,000 active members on membership and there's all these things that are happening? And so as they showed up, we also had a chance to look at like, okay, what did we actually acquire here? What's all the intellectual property? And it's insane. There's 40 years of stuff. And some is not relevant, and so we're sifting through those, but most of it is some of the best stuff ever. And it's cool, because as we were building out funnels and looking at these courses that they've been selling for $2,500 or $3,000 or $5,000, and it's just like, they're not selling a lot of them. I'm like, ugh, it's because they just need to be packaged differently. But I also think that the pricing is different nowadays than it was 15, 20 years ago, even. And so what's going to be cool is we're taking, you know, Dan's written, I don't know, 20, 30 books, we're taking each book and we're figuring out what courses sync with it, what content fits in this process. And we're building out new funnels, like book funnels that take people through all the products and the courses and the events that Dan did related to each book. Every book he wrote, he wrote a book and then they'd do an event teaching it and then they would do workshops and they'd do all these things. And so every book has got like an archive of stuff that nobody's ever seen before, which is insane. And I'm going through the archives. I'm like, oh my gosh, I thought I owned everything Dan ever had, and I had never seen this, never seen this, never heard of this. And so it's just so exciting. We're having a chance to come pull things out and plug them in and all these things. But as excited and as nerdy as I am in this process, the thing I wanted to share with you guys is that the things that you are learning, the principles you are learning, the things that you've been, especially going deep with me and you've been reading DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets, literally all we're doing is using that playbook. I'm coming in to this company where I learned a lot of these principles with, but the company's been sold twice since Dan and Bill ran it. So they've fallen away from a lot of the core principles that made them great initially. And so what we're doing literally is like, hey, what's the value ladder? Okay, what is the front end offer? Okay, here's the funnel, what do we need? What's the free plus shipping? What's the order form bump? What's upsell one, upsell two? What's downsell? You know, like walking through and then, okay after someone buys this, where's the next step we take them? What's the next tier on the value ladder? How do we move them up one tier? And then okay, from there, what content do we need, what pieces, and we're kind of just literally just taking the same blueprint that you guys have been learning forever. I laid the blueprint out for you guys, like this is the blueprint. It doesn't deviate. It doesn't change. It's the same for every business. I don't care if you're selling info, products, or coaching, or physical products, or dental, you know, cleaning people's teeth, or if you are doing chiropractic adjustments. It doesn't matter. It's all the same. The framework's the same. It's like a house. The framework's the same. You have a bathroom. You have a kitchen. It doesn't matter if you're making a $30,000 house or a $30 million house, the framework's the same. And so we're just bringing up the same frameworks you guys have been learning and studying and then taking all of the pieces, the content, the copy, the assets and everything, and just plugging it into that framework. So I wanted to share that with all you guys, because I know that, and I'm probably one of the causes of this because I get so excited and I want to launch a thousand funnels because I know the profits, I know how they work. I can just do it over and over again. And so we roll out a lot of things. But if you actually look at this strategy, me coming into this new company and having 40 years of intellectual property and a million courses and products and all this stuff, the strategy is the same. It's the same thing. And so if I was you guys and you're still not sure what to do, start there, start with the DotCom Secrets book, read the book and say, okay, what's the value ladder? What's funnel number one? What's offers inside of funnel number one? And coming back to the basics. I get people, it's crazy, on Instagram, I don't know if you guys ever click over to the other tab, which is messages that don't go in the inbox. I look at that probably once a week or so, just to see if I'm missing any conversations with people who I need to be having conversations with. And I look over there just to make sure I'm not missing anything. And as crazy as it is, I will tell you that each week there are probably anywhere from 20 to 50 people that message like, "Oh your stuff's so good. Where do I start?" Or, "I love your stuff. I can't figure how to get started. What should I do?" Like oh my gosh, you guys, this is simple. Read book number one. That's why I wrote the first book, so you'd have the foundation. Go read DotCom Secrets. The same thing that we're doing now, after we acquired this huge company, it's like okay, apply principles. It reminds me of Vince Lombardi. They said the first year of every football season, he'd walk out to his team. We're the best in the world, you know? And he'd hold the football and be like, "Gentlemen, this is a football." And he's just showing them, here's the foundation, here's the beginning. Here's the start of this. And I think that's what sometimes we forget, is we're trying to figure out the secret ninja, Facebook advertising hack, and the this and the that. And it's like, no, no, no, come back to the fundamentals, come back to the foundation. Gentlemen, this is a funnel. Right? Okay. Which funnel is it? Value ladder, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then you're just plugging the pieces into the model that's been proven to work over and over and over again for decades. And like I said, initially, it's the stuff I learned from Dan and learned from Bill, and such an honor to have a chance to come back. In fact, it's funny, because I was like, I'm going back to the advertising archives. We're pulling all the old sales letters back from when Dan and Bill ran the company. It's like, okay, this is what we need to see, because this is when it was done correctly. You know, everything in the last decade, since some of the other people who bought the company, they messed up the model. They didn't understand the model. They bought it, not understanding it. And they jacked the whole thing up. We're coming back, thinking back to the foundations, back to the fundamentals. What worked before? How does this work? Plug in the system. And so I'm excited. You guys will see the first iteration of what we're doing. We'll be launching probably the first week in January or maybe the last week in December. Not quite positive, but around there. And then over the next 12 months, you'll see the process. You'll see it happening in real time. You'll see, oh, there's the front end of the value. Oh, he's moving us up a step. Oh, from there we're moving to the high ticket. Oh, from there there's a continuity. You'll be able to see it rolled out in real time over the next 12 months, which will be really, really fun. So I'm pumped. I'm excited. Hope you guys, are as well, to see behind the scenes of the process. But that's what we did this week. So if you guys, if you are at the beginning of your business, I would stop what you're doing. Go reread DotCom Secrets, and then do what we just did. Do two day planning meetings. Okay, what's our value ladder? What's the funnel? What are the offers inside the funnels? What's the first funnel we're going to launch? And then just focus on that. Because we built out a whole value ladder. This is the thing that a lot of people make mistakes. They build a value ladder and they're like, okay, I've got to build all these things. And then they spend the next six years building all the things. No. You build a value ladder so you know where you're going. But then you just build the first thing. Like for us, it's okay, now we know where we're going between now and the next three months. The only thing that matters is this funnel, that's it. Nothing else matters. And blinders on. Let's go. And that's what we're focusing on for the next, well, it shouldn't take three months because we're ClickFunnels. Come on now. But the next 30 days, the next 60 days, is picking the one and focusing on it and not trying to build out the coaching program, the high ticket, and all these things in between, it's like, no, just focus on the one. The value ladder is there so we know where we're going, but we begin from our funnel and launch it and then we start the process from there. So anyway, I hope that helps. Again, if you're just beginning, go read the DotCom Secrets book, take two days with your business partner, your family, your friends, whoever you're working with, and map that out. If you've got a business that you just acquired and you're trying to figure it out, do that. If you are struggling in business and you're like, it's all chaos and nothing's working, and you're frustrated, take two days and do this. It's key. So hope that helps you guys. Anyway, we're getting close to Halloween. I've got my Inner Circle. Some of you guys know we relaunched Inner Circle at Funnel Hacking Live. We actually relaunched three different tiers. First is the Inner Circle for life, which is $50,000 a year. And we have, I think like 70 or 80 people signed up for that, which is crazy, but I'm excited to be able to bring back the Inner Circle. It's been closed for two years. And then we opened a second tier of Inner Circle called the Category Kings. And we started the pricing there at $150,000 a year. And there's only 14 spots. I was like, oh, it's going to take us a while to fill that up. We sold those 14 spots in two days and we have a waiting list of probably 30 people who are waiting to be able to send me $150,000 for that, which is insane. I didn't think that was going to happen. So note to self, I should have launched two Category King groups. Anyway, not this year, I'm too tired. And then we have a third tier called the Atlas Group, which is going to be, I know we have people on the waiting list. We haven't actually opened that one yet, and it's going to be really fun as well. So anyway, I'm excited because next week, all next week we've got five days of meetings with the first two tiers of Inner Circle and it's going to be a lot of fun. So anyway, I'm sure I'll probably box you, or not box you, probably do podcast episodes somewhere during that window next week and share some of the insights and the ideas and things that are happening there. And if you want to be in the Inner Circle someday, I always tell people this is where you're ascending to, get in my Inner Circle. That's where I have a chance to work really close in very small groups with you guys. So that is a goal. Nowadays you have to be a Two Comma Club winner to qualify for it. So set that as a goal. Get your Two Comma Club and then get in the Inner Circle with us, coming out, because there's a lot of fun stuff happening. All right, thanks everybody. Appreciate you all for listening, and excited to show off what we're going to be doing behind the scenes with Magnetic Marketing, Dan Kennedy's company, over the next 12 months. Thanks everybody, and we'll talk soon.

505 - A panoply of potpourri from our listeners: Tom talks Ask Me a Question

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2021 31:29

I'm going to do another ask me a question session because there's just so darn many questions I get all the time and I guarantee you don't know the answers to all these questions. Screw The Commute Podcast Show Notes Episode 505 How To Automate Your Business - https://screwthecommute.com/automatefree/ Internet Marketing Training Center - https://imtcva.org/ Higher Education Webinar – https://screwthecommute.com/webinars See Tom's Stuff – https://linktr.ee/antionandassociates 00:23 Tom's introduction to Ask Me a Question 04:38 Using Shared Hosting 09:47 Moving off of GoDaddy 12:45 Google is changing your page titles 15:19 Running a topic oriented master class 19:12 Clickbank and JVZoo 22:03 Tracking offline sales 24:43 Paying influencers for a post Entrepreneurial Resources Mentioned in This Podcast Higher Education Webinar - https://screwthecommute.com/webinars Screw The Commute - https://screwthecommute.com/ Screw The Commute Podcast App - https://screwthecommute.com/app/ College Ripoff Quiz - https://imtcva.org/quiz Know a young person for our Youth Episode Series? Send an email to Tom! - orders@antion.com Have a Roku box? Find Tom's Public Speaking Channel there! - https://channelstore.roku.com/details/267358/the-public-speaking-channel How To Automate Your Business - https://screwthecommute.com/automatefree/ Internet Marketing Retreat and Joint Venture Program - https://greatinternetmarketingtraining.com/ Disabilities Page - https://imtcva.org/disabilities/ Influencer Payments - https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/new-report-looks-at-influencer-payment-expectations-based-on-audience-size/606103/ Influencer Rankings - https://starngage.com/app/global/influencer/ranking/united-states/fishing Josh Holloway - https://twitter.com/JoshHolloway Kevin VanDam - http://kevinvandam.com/ Email Tom: Tom@ScrewTheCommute.com Internet Marketing Training Center - https://imtcva.org/ Related Episodes Basic SEO - https://screwthecommute.com/469/ Title Tags - https://screwthecommute.com/502/ Mark Joyner - https://screwthecommute.com/504/ More Entrepreneurial Resources for Home Based Business, Lifestyle Business, Passive Income, Professional Speaking and Online Business I discovered a great new headline / subject line / subheading generator that will actually analyze which headlines and subject lines are best for your market. I negotiated a deal with the developer of this revolutionary and inexpensive software. Oh, and it's good on Mac and PC. Go here: http://jvz1.com/c/41743/183906 The Wordpress Ecourse. Learn how to Make World Class Websites for $20 or less. https://screwthecommute.com/wordpressecourse/ Join our Private Facebook Group! One week trial for only a buck and then $37 a month, or save a ton with one payment of $297 for a year. Click the image to see all the details and sign up or go to https://www.greatinternetmarketing.com/screwthecommute/ After you sign up, check your email for instructions on getting in the group.

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504 - One of my few idols in this business: Tom interviews Mark Joyner

Screw The Commute Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2021 58:13

Mark Joyner is an author, inventor and a serial entrepreneur. He's currently serving as founder and CEO of Simpleology, a web application that helps people and teams get more done faster. He started as the first e-book publishing company, the first online ad tracking company, the second pay per click search engine and he invented the tracking pixel. And he also started a website called Start Blaze that went to number thirty six globally within six weeks of launching with zero dollar ad budgets. Screw The Commute Podcast Show Notes Episode 504 How To Automate Your Business - https://screwthecommute.com/automatefree/ Internet Marketing Training Center - https://imtcva.org/ Higher Education Webinar – https://screwthecommute.com/webinars See Tom's Stuff – https://linktr.ee/antionandassociates 04:47 Tom's introduction to Mark Joyner 06:18 Futurism is important to entrepreneurs 08:53 Self-educated and never really went to school 11:20 Astroturfing is about information control 21:24 Keeping up with the firehose of knowledge and data 35:20 The concept of Nine Great Threats 41:13 Sponsor message 43:02 Military concepts applied to marketing Entrepreneurial Resources Mentioned in This Podcast Higher Education Webinar - https://screwthecommute.com/webinars Screw The Commute - https://screwthecommute.com/ Screw The Commute Podcast App - https://screwthecommute.com/app/ College Ripoff Quiz - https://imtcva.org/quiz Know a young person for our Youth Episode Series? Send an email to Tom! - orders@antion.com Have a Roku box? Find Tom's Public Speaking Channel there! - https://channelstore.roku.com/details/267358/the-public-speaking-channel How To Automate Your Business - https://screwthecommute.com/automatefree/ Internet Marketing Retreat and Joint Venture Program - https://greatinternetmarketingtraining.com/ Disabilities Page - https://imtcva.org/disabilities/ Your Roadmap To Money - http://yourroadmaptomoney.com Email Tom: Tom@ScrewTheCommute.com Internet Marketing Training Center - https://imtcva.org/ Related Episodes Dan Janal - https://screwthecommute.com/503/ More Entrepreneurial Resources for Home Based Business, Lifestyle Business, Passive Income, Professional Speaking and Online Business I discovered a great new headline / subject line / subheading generator that will actually analyze which headlines and subject lines are best for your market. I negotiated a deal with the developer of this revolutionary and inexpensive software. Oh, and it's good on Mac and PC. Go here: http://jvz1.com/c/41743/183906 The Wordpress Ecourse. Learn how to Make World Class Websites for $20 or less. https://screwthecommute.com/wordpressecourse/ Join our Private Facebook Group! One week trial for only a buck and then $37 a month, or save a ton with one payment of $297 for a year. Click the image to see all the details and sign up or go to https://www.greatinternetmarketing.com/screwthecommute/ After you sign up, check your email for instructions on getting in the group.

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Mark Joyner | Ima Get In Trouble | Eddie Liles, Loy Lee, and Terrance G

I'ma Get in Trouble

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2021 43:29

On the Ima Get In Trouble Podcast, Eddie Liles, Loy Lee, and Terrance Gawith argue, talk trash, and have coming to christ conversations. They don't always agree, but it is always entertaining to watch them try to prove a point. One thing is for sure, no topic is off the table even if someones gonna get in trouble. Follow along with the conversation live on Facebook from the Ima Get in Trouble Podcast page and listen after on everywhere you find podcasts like Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

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Mark Joyner | Ima Get In Trouble | Eddie Liles, Loy Lee, and Terrance G

I'ma Get In Trouble

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2021 44:45

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40 - "Making Offers" Is Core To Your Business

Ground Up Biz Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2021 15:46

If you're not making offers, your business cannot grow. Read The Irresistible Offer by Mark Joyner and enhance the potency of the offers you are making. The more offers you make, the better you will get at making offers. The more offers you make, the more offers you will close and the more you will earn in life. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/groundupbiz/support

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The Roundtable of World Changers (Part 3 of 4)

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2021 44:25

The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part three of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you've been enjoying this series so far. This is The Roundtable of World Changers, a conversation I had with Matt and Caleb Maddix, and a whole bunch of young entrepreneurs, who are literally out there trying to change the world. This is part three of a four part episode, because the conversation went for three or four hours. And so, this episode's also going to be about 40 minutes long, and it's the next set of questions they asked me. And if you've listened to the last two, you know that these guys ask a lot of questions, in a lot of different directions, and angles, and went all over the place. And I think this time is probably 01:00 or 02:00 in the morning. And so, the questions started going from everywhere, from business, to relationships, to families, and a whole bunch more. So I hope you enjoy this next episode. Here's some of the bullet points of things you're going to learn about. We talked about the 10 commandments of marketing. I talked about my very first mentor, and a thing he taught me, not just to make money in the short term, but how to build a business that now has lasted me for almost two decades. I talk about one of my friends and mentors, Daegen Smith and something that he taught me. It was so simple, yet it's been the key to help me get thousands of people a day to join my email list. We talked about leadership, delegation, scheduling. We talk about, as you're building a team, understanding people's unique abilities. Talked about how much time you spend thinking about the future. Talked about proximity with billionaires. We also talked about how to balance your business and married life, so you can be a good husband and a good father, which is something that I stress about all the time. We talked about a principle that I learned from Stacey and Paul Martino, that has been one of the most powerful things I've learned, which is called demand-relationship. I talk about that. We talk about some relationship tricks, for those who are either married or getting married. Some of the newlyweds, and the engaged couples, were asking some questions about that. Hopefully I don't get in trouble for sharing some of my tricks. We talked about knowing what your values are, and your priorities. Talked about being vulnerable, and being honest, versus staying positive through challenges. We talked about some of the biggest principles and things I learned from Tony Robbins, including how to change your state whenever you need to. And we talked about my 12 year relationship with Tony Robbins, and all the things behind that. We talked about... I don't want to spoil any more. You guys, this is a fun interview. And hopefully, you've been enjoying these so far. So with that said, we're going to cut to the theme song. When we come back, we're going to take you guys immediately back into this conversation. This is, again, The Roundtable of World Changers, part three of four. Matt Maddix: Let's say there was a Russell Brunson 10 commandments. You know how God had one. Russell: Thou shall build a list. Matt: Yeah. How high is this in the 10 commandments? Russell: My first mentor, Mark… Matt: And what would be some of the Russell Brunson... Let's come up with some of them. Like, "Thou shalt..." Russell: We need some stone tablets. Matt: "To all the funnel hackers, thou shalt and thou shall not." I want to hear- Russell: That would be a fun presentation, actually. Matt: Yeah, that would be, actually. Caleb Maddix: That would be. Russell: That would be cool. Matt: Dude, you need to do that. Russell: Come back from the mountain, we have 10 things. Matt: Yeah, seriously. Caleb: Wow. That'd be awesome. Matt: No, the five 'thou shalts', and like, "Thou shall..." and then- Russell: "Thou shall..." Matt: ..."Thou shall not, no matter what..." What would some of those be? Russell: That could be a really cool presentation, actually. Well, so I would say, in my first venture was Mark Joyner, and he was the one... So in context, in history, 18 years when I started, Mark Joyner... I don't think it's probably known. He's brilliant. But he built a company, and sold it off. And at the very end of his career as a coach person, I got to meet him and get to know him a little bit. But I remember, at that time, Google AdSense was this thing that came. And so, if any of you guys are old enough, just try and remember the Google AdSense days. It was insane. They were software. You click a button on software, it would pop out of site, pop out another site. And these sites would make anywhere from 100 to $1000 a day. And you just keep clicking this button, it would pop out another site. And so, people were making $1 million a month. They had teams in the Philippines, that these guys just clicking the button to build the software. It was just... But it was all fake. But it was tons of money. Insane amounts of money. I had friends making so much money. And shiny object, very shiny object, the most sexy shiny object of all time. You click a button, you can make $1 million. That was it, that was the pitch. And it was true. Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: For so... Everyone I knew. Can you imagine that? Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: If I go back in time, 18 years ago, I would move to the Philippines, I would hire everybody, and we would just click buttons. And I would've been- Caleb: Wow. Russell: ...a billionaire. It was- Caleb: Wow. Russell: It was insane. That's how Google got people adopting the AdSense program. So people would put ads on every single site, every single everything. And so, I'm getting in this game, I'm seeing this, and I'm morons making insane amounts of money. And I was like, "Ah!" And Mark had just become my mentor, the very first time, and he's like, "That's going to go away. Focus on building a list." I'm like, "But this guy's a moron. He made $1 million last month clicking a button. No strategy, no brains, no nothing." He's like, "I know, but it's going to go away. Focus on building a list." I'm like- Matt: Wow. Russell: But- Matt: Seriously? Russell: "He's clicking a button. Building lists is hard." He's like, "Build a list." I'm like... And I remember fighting him and fighting him, he's just like, "Dude, trust me. I've been on cycle. It's going to go away. Just focus and focus." And I was so upset, but I listened because I do that. One thing I pride myself on, I'm very coachable. Coach tells me something, I do it. I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. Matt: I love it. Russell: They tell me to do it, I do it, right? So I was like, "Ah, but there's free money in piles-" Matt: Even when it's hard- Russell: "All right." Matt: ...you do it. Russell: So I did it. And sure enough, I was doing that, and doing that, within six months, this things collapsed, disappeared, destroyed people's lives. Because you're making $1 million a month clicking buttons, what do you do? Especially as a young kid. Matt: Spending that much money. Russell: You're buying Lambos, and Ferraris, and helicopters, and pilots, and girls, and insane amounts of money. And then it disappears overnight. Devastating, ruined these guys, ruined them, so many people. Matt: There's no skill behind that at all. Russell: Yeah. And I had a list, and I just coasted through it. Right? And I've looked at the SEOs, every single up and down, up and down, through the years, and I just listened to Mark and just focused on building my list, focused on building it, and- Matt: So you still feel that as strong today, as when you heard it? Russell: 100%. Matt: Even then. Russell: 100%. That's one of our KPIs. How many people doing lists today? Every single day. Matt: Really? Everyday? Russell: Everyday. Because I did it for a long time- Matt: Even now, you're saying? Russell: 100%, everyday. John Parkes everyday sends me a number. “How many people joined our list yesterday?” That's all I want to know. Caleb: What's your guys' email open rates? Russell: It fluctuates. 20 ish percent. Caleb: Okay. Russell: Around there. But it was funny because I remember, I had forgotten that lesson after a while. And if you guys know Daegen Smith, Daegen, he's getting back in the game now. He's brilliant. But I remember I had a list, and I was my money off of it. I wasn't focusing on it. And I remember he asked me a question, he said, "How many..." It wasn't, "How many people are on your list?" Because that's what most people ask, "How big's your list?" But he asked me a different question, which input output, right? Matt: Yeah. Russell: The question was, "How many people joined your list today?" And I was like, "I don't know." He's like, "Go look right now." I'm like, "Okay." So I log in, and look at the thing, it was like 12. And I was like, "12?" And I was like, "Is that good or bad? I don't know." And he's like, "Let me show you mine." And he showed me his, and it was like 1400. And I was like, "You had 1400 people join today?" He's like, "Yeah." "Wait, how'd you do that?" He's like, "I just look at it everyday. And when I look at it everyday, somehow it grows." And I was like- Matt: Wow. Russell: "Okay." So then, everyday, after I log in and look at my thing, it was like 12, I'm like, "Ah." In my head, I'm like, "Fricken Daegen had 1400. I only 12." Caleb: Yeah. Matt: Wow. Russell: And also, I was like, "What do I do to get people to join the list?" Matt: Yeah, start optimizing. Russell: And then, your mind starts thinking differently, and all of a sudden you start focusing on it. And it's crazy. I can't tell you how many entrepreneurs, that have been in my world, who have gone up and then come down. And what happens, mostly, is they do something, they build a big list, they stop adding fuel to the fire, they have this list, they sell things to the list, the list atrophies, and eventually starts shrinking and dying. And then, they don't know how to build lists, the business crashes and dies. Matt: I hope you guys are really listening. Really. I mean, he's- Caleb: That's powerful. Matt: ...saving your life right now. Russell: The question, the goal, every single day, is that, because it's a fuel to your fire. And what happens was you stop putting fuel on the fire, and it doesn't die immediately. So you're like, "Oh, I've turned off Ads, so I'm good. But I'm just going to focus on emails, let's focus that." But just every email you send out, your list atrophies, shrinks, dies. And then, eventually, it'll just die. And so, yeah, if you're not consistently, constantly feeding the list, every single day- Matt: And once you have the list, what's the biggest mistake people make with their list? Russell: They don't email it. Matt: Yeah. Russell: They're scared to... You think it's too much emails. It's not, it's the opposite. It's that they don't email. Caleb: Okay. Russell: Minimum of three times a week. Closer to everyday. Matt: Wow. Russell: If you talk to Daegen, it's twice a day, everyday. Matt: Really? Caleb: What other KPIs do you have sent to you every single day? Russell: I want to know how much we made yesterday, striped. Because first off, it's cool to know. Caleb: Yeah. Russell: But second off, also it's like, I want that number to be bigger everyday. So it's like, actual money in the thing, how many people joined the list today, and how many books are sold, how many ClickFunnels members. Those are the ones for me. Our teams have other KPIs they focus on. But those are the ones I care about. Matt: So out of 30 days, when you hear the numbers, how often are you pissed and how often are you like, "Yeah."? Russell: Nowadays, it's always pretty good. Matt: Nowadays, it's like, "Woo." Russell: Because it might go up or down a little bit, but the numbers are big enough, that it's just like, "That's so crazy." I remember... Anyway. I remember just the growth of ClickFunnels, because you know Stripe dings every day with your numbers. I remember when we started going, it got to the point where it's like $10,000 a day, I was like, "$10,000 a day is insane. That's just so cool." And then, it got to a point where it's like $20,000 a day, and then 30, and then $50,000 a day, and then $100,000 a day, and then 150, then 200, 250, 300. I'm just like, "This is insane to me, that this is a daily thing that come..." it was just... Anyway, that's when it got just weird. And it makes me mad because Todd made a commitment to me, that as soon as we passed $500,000 a month in sales, he'd move to Boise. Matt: And he didn't yet? Russell: No. So... Matt: You were out of there already. Russell: And then, I was like, "Well, we have $500,000 a day." And then, he still hasn't come. So I don't know. Some day. Do you think Todd will ever move to Boise? Speaker 4: Plus I'm curious if I could pop in to ask a question. Russell: Yeah, feel free. Speaker 4: I've always wanted to ask someone of your stature, that's done as much as you have, impacted as much people as you have, and really built the business that you have. So I'm curious on your take on leadership, building a team, delegating, and your schedule and how you go about scheduling your day, and prioritizing what's important for you, as a business owner, and what you delegate to your employees and their responsibilities as well. So leadership, delegating, and scheduling. Russell: Good question. It's interesting because I would say I'm not the best leader on my team, by any stretch. And so, it was interesting because I spent the first four or five years with ClickFunnels as the CEO, trying to do my best with it. But it wasn't my unique ability, is leadership. I feel like I'm good at leading a community, but I struggle a lot more with employees and teams, internally. And so, about a year ago or so, I handed the reins to Dave Woodward, to be the CEO of ClickFunnels. And he's been amazing. Man, what he's done inside the company has been awesome. And I think a big part of it is understanding, at least for me personally, I was trying to be a leader, and trying to develop that, but I wasn't the best at it. And I think sometimes we think it's always got to be us. Like, "It's my company, I got to be the CEO. I got to be the leader. I got to do these things." It's understanding that a lot of times there's people who are really good. Who's the best you could find to be that? Or any part of our business. You know what I mean? It's a big part of it. The second thing is, if you've studied Dan Sullivan at all, one of his biggest things is unique ability. That's the thing. What's your unique ability? What's everybody's unique ability? And I think when you start a company, it's tough because it's like everyone's in charge of everything, right? I'm the CEO, but I'm also taking out the garbage, I'm also doing... everyone's Speaker 4: Yeah. Russell: ...doing a little bit of everything, which is cool. When you're scrappy in the beginning, that's important, and everyone's doing that. But as you grow, that starts hindering you more and more and more, where we had people who are insanely talented, who if I could just get them doing this thing, 100% of the time... And that's when it got to the point with ClickFunnels, is that my unique abilities are writing, are being in videos, are building funnels, doing the... Those things are my unique abilities. Caleb: Engineering. Russell: Yeah. And I was spending maybe 10% of my time on that, and 90% of the time in meetings, and trying- Matt: Wow. Russell: ...coordinate people, and leadership. And it was stressful and it was hard. Matt: And you were draining. You were probably drained doing that. Russell: Yeah. And I was miserable, that was just... I wasn't good at it. Not feeling good, like, "Ah, I'm not getting through to people. I can't figure this out." But I felt like I had to own, I had to be the guy, I had to do the thing because this is my baby, this is my business. And the last 12 months has been crazy, because I handed it to someone who actually is good at that, that is his unique ability. And I'm watching company structure, and meetings, and KPIs, things that I was never super good at doing, and consistently having it all happening now. And now, I'm in the marketing department again, and I'm building funnels. People are like, "What do you do all day?" I'm literally in ClickFunnels, building funnels. "No, but you have funnel builder..." No, I'm literally in ClickFunnels, building funnels. I didn't start this business because I wanted to be a CEO of a big huge company. I did it because I love building funnels. I'm an artist, when it comes down to it, this is my art. Matt: Wow. Russell: And that's what I get to do now. And it's amazing. So Dan's got Fridays we book out, and we spend videos, he's got a whole bunch of YouTube videos, we film five or six YouTube vlogs last week, on Friday. So we have that times blocked out to do that, right? I'm writing my next book right now, so I've got my mornings blocked out to write books, because that's when my mind's got not a million things so I can do that. And then, after morning comes in, after I do my wrestling practice, I come in. And that's my teams there, and that's when we're building funnels. I got my designer and my copywriter, the people, and I get to facilitate that. And I feel like the... What's the guy in the orchestra, the maestro? Caleb: Conductor? Russell: Yeah, like I'm the conductor, I'm conducting all these talented people. And everyone's bringing... And I'm alive, and it's exciting. And at night, I can't sleep, because I'm excited again. And so, I think that's the biggest thing, is taking the pressure off yourself if you're not the best leader. That's okay. What are you the actual best at? And success, in business, I think, at least for me, I always thought I had to be the best at everything. And it's the opposite, where it's like, "How do you focus on the thing you're best at? And get the rest of the people around you." Speaker 4: Yeah. And it gets- Matt: And it's... You had to have been willing to let go of your ego, man. Or you wouldn't have been able to grow so much. If you try to do it all yourself... Caleb: So I have a question. How much time do you spend actually thinking about the future? Because it seems like, from what you've told us, you're very dialed in and obsessed on the process, and that's how you've gotten to where you are, up to this point, because you're in love with the game. How much of your time do you spend thinking about the future, and what's on the horizon next year, five years, 10 years? Does that cross your mind? Or what does that look like? Russell: It's interesting, I can't remember who was talking to about this... The further out you look, the fuzzier it gets. You know what I mean? And so, I think for me, it's like we have... I know where I want to go, but the in between is really, really fuzzy, right? It's hard to know. And so, it's like I know... For me, the last big boat was $100 million, the next one's a billion. So we know there's the thing. But it's so far from... I don't know the steps to get there. You know what I mean? And so, for me, it's more like, "Well, here's where we're at." In fact, that was my... We had a chance, last month, to go spend a day with Tony Robbins, and we each had a chance to ask him one question. So that was literally my question, just like... Matt: What was your question? Russell: My question... It'll be a blog soon. Not yet though. No, but it was basically like, "We've gotten to this point, and I know to get to the next goal, the things we've been doing are great and they got us to this point, but I have to think differently to here. I don't know how to think differently. How do you think... It's not another book I'm... Is it a book? How do I think differently?" And what Tony said, that was... it's a very... He said a lot of things, but one of the big things was like, "Proximity is power," like, "You have to be in proximity with people who have already accomplished the thing that you're trying to do." And it was interesting because I look at the path of how I grew ClickFunnels, I did that 100%. I was like, "All right, who are the..." and we found the people, got proximity, and then grew it to this point. So eventually, we kind of coded out of the people who I was aware of. So I asked Tony, I'm like, "Well, where would you go to?" And he's like, "Well, if it was me," he's like, "Who's built the billion dollar company?" He's like, "Marc Benioff." And he started naming all these different billionaires. And this and that, all these things. And I was just like, "I never even assumed those people could... I could be..." it seems so far away. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's..." Having a proximity to those people, and start thinking differently, because I don't know the journey but they've done it. Because someone in our world, and like, "How do [inaudible 00:16:13]?" I'm like, "This is literally a 13 minute project. There you go. [inaudible 00:16:16]." It's like I've done it so many times, it's not hard, right? But for them, it's like this is the rocket science to figure it out. And then the same way with these guys who have built billion dollar companies. So now it's trying to proximity to those people, and trying to get around them, and trying to figure out the journey. So the first thing we did, literally, I got out with Tony, Tony gave the answer to the question, and I knew the first guy I needed to get into proximity with. So I texted Dave, Dave called him up, we brought him on retainer. And now, we've got him an hour a week, to get on the phone with him and just ask him all of our questions. And have him introduce us all the different players at that next level. So a lot of it's that. Dave, who's the CEO, was very focused on all the... He's very much like, "Okay, first, to get to this goal, we have to have everyone here, here, here. These are the percentages, the numbers, all the..." Those things stress me out, I hate spreadsheets. He's always got spreadsheets. But he comes back with all the spreadsheets, I was like, "All I need to know from you is... Because I'm going to be building a funnel. What's the goal? What do you need from me to be able to do that?" He's like, "We need more ClickFunnels trials." Like, "Done. I can... Okay. That's where I'm going to focus my energy." And then, it's like, now I can creative on that piece, because I know this is the metric that I can do, with my skillset, to drive it. And everybody's got a metric, right? The traffic team, everybody's got a metric. But for me personally, it's like the only thing I actually affect in a short term, micro, and then I can focus all the creativity and effort on that, while trying to figure out how to shift my mind set to be bigger, to... Caleb: If Marc Benioff offered you $1 billion for ClickFunnels, what would you say? Speaker 4: Good question. Russell: I'd ask him for five. Matt: Good response! Rob: Can I ask you a question, outside of business? Matt: You asking a question? Oh. Rob: Yeah. Matt: Oh, go ahead. Rob: So I remember you were talking about your wife earlier, with how you wanted to get her the couch. Me and my fiance actually met at ClickFunnels, at your event. Matt: Yeah. Rob: So- Matt: ClickFunnels wedding. Russell: No way. Rob: So what I'm curious about is- Russell: Am I going to be the best man at the wedding? Caleb: I told you, you've got to come, I'm like, "You've got to invite Russell." Rob: So what I wanted to ask you is, obviously you run a nine figure company, and there's a lot that goes into that, how do you balance with, let's say, number one, your wife and then your kids as well? And then, what is your secret to a really successful marriage, that's worked for you? Matt: Dude, what- Rob: I think that's something that many entrepreneurs have good marriages that don't really get asked about. So I was just curious about that. Matt: Yeah. Russell: So I hear three questions in there, right? So balance, happy wife... What was... There was a third one? Caleb: Kids. Rob: Yeah, just balancing it, running a company. I mean, you do all these things, you also have a wife, you have kids. Russell: Yeah. So I would say a couple things. So number one is balance is this thing that we all, for some reason, in our mind, we all seek after. But everything great in my life has come from times of radical imbalance. When I wanted to become a wrestler, I wasn't a great wrestler because I was balanced, it was because I became radically imbalanced in that thing. Matt: Dang. Russell: It became the most important thing in my life, and everything else suffered. But I had to do it to be considered successful. When I met my wife, we didn't create a great relationship because we were balanced, I became radically imbalanced. And all my time and effort and focus was on her. And that's why it became great. ClickFunnels, same way. We built ClickFunnels, I was not balanced. We had to become radically imbalanced for a season, to focus actually to get... So that's the thing to understand. In anything great in life, you can't do it in a point of balance. It's radical imbalance that causes greatness. Matt: And that's golf. Russell: And so, you got to be okay with that. But it can't be for forever. It's got to be something that goes, and it comes and goes. Because people who get radically imbalanced for a long time, they can lose their family, they can lose their kids. Rob: Was there a point where you had to tell your wife, "Hey, this is what I really want to do."? Russell: A lot. She had to- Rob: And she had to just- Russell: ...be on board with- Rob: ...get on board. Russell: She had to get on board, yeah. And if she wasn't, I had to say, "Okay, what's more important?" If it was her, then I had to say no to that. And there's been many opportunities in my life I've had to say no to. Rob: What's that dynamic like, being that guys are together, just as far as working out just normal little things? Russell: So I- Rob: Just decisions, those kind of things. Russell: Yeah, well, marriage, you're going to find out, it's hard. Just so fully aware. No one told me that, going into it. I was like- Matt: Yeah. Russell: I was like, "This is going to be amazing. This is going to be the greatest thing in the world." And it is, it's awesome. But man, it is way harder than I thought. Rob: Just to be a person. Russell: Yeah, someone's... I, actually, I would highly recommend Stacey and Paul Martino have a course that my wife and I have gone through the last year, and it's amazing. There's a principle they teach about demand-relationship. If you just go through their... They have a 14 day quick start, it's like $100. But if you just learn the principles of demand-relationship, what they teach. The biggest game changer in a relationship I ever... Of all the things I've studied... Rob: Why? Russell: It is amazing. Rob: What was your take-away? Russell: The principle of demand-relationship is that, throughout history and society, the way that most of us get things done is that... So in a relationship, there's a power player, and there's someone less, right? And if I want my wife to do something, I'm going to demand, like, "I need you to do these things." Right? And that works, until the other person has the ability to leave. So prior to divorce being a thing, men, throughout history, have had a dominant relationship over women. They used to manage and get what they want, and women couldn't leave. And so, it was a horrible thing, right? But they couldn't leave. As soon as divorce happened, boom, it started happening. Right? When parents come over to their kids and give demand-relationship, as soon as the kids are able to leave, it breaks. And then, breaks his relationships. And so, that's the problem, is that for the last 5000 years, that's been our DNA, that men force women to do these different things. And that's what the demand-relationship is. Their whole training, their whole course, everything they teach is the opposite of demand-relationship. How do you create a relationship, where transformation happens through inspiration, not through demanding, and chasing. And it's tough because, for all of us, especially men, it's been so ingrained in our DNA that if we want something, we... That's how we do business, how we do things. But in a relation, especially an intimate relationship, it's the worst thing that could possibly happen. And that's what we all do. So it'd be worth... I'm hoping she writes a book some day, because it's... In my new book, I have a whole chapter, actually, teaching her framework on in demand-relationship. What's that? Rob: Were you high school sweethearts? Russell: College, we met in college. Rob: So she was with you before you started... Russell: Yeah. Rob: ...and had the huge success- Russell: Yeah. Rob: ...basically. Russell: Yeah. Rob: What was that transition like, from you guys, I guess, being... struggling, and you guys stay together- Matt: Good questions, Rob. Rob: ...to now- Russell: His mindset's on this. Rob: Yeah. Russell: Going into it. Rob: What is that like? I'm just curious, because I mean people don't really talk about this, I guess, a lot. Caleb: Relationship genius. Russell: Yeah. And it's different, because some relationships, both the people are in the business, some aren't. My wife's not involved in the business at all. She... Rob: Oh, okay. Russell: ...doesn't understand it, and she doesn't want to be part of it. And that's okay. It's like sometimes that's been the biggest blessing for me, sometimes it's been hard. Caleb: Yeah. Russell: Right? Sometimes I see the power couples, who are both in the business, and it's really, really cool. But I ask them, and they're like, "Sometimes it's a great blessing, sometimes it's really hard." So there's pro's and con's both ways. But I think the biggest part is just, this has been good for our relationship, and at first we didn't always have this, but it was like... Just figuring out how to get... You both have to have that same end goal, otherwise you're fighting against each other, right? And so, when we were building ClickFunnels and stuff, it was hard at first, because she didn't really... She's like, "What are you guys doing? You spend all this time and..." didn't understand it. And it was tough because I was trying to explain it. And luckily, for me, is that Todd was part of this too, and his wife was kind of struggling. So they had each other to kind of talk through it. But it wasn't until the very first Funnel Hacking Live, where... Because my wife had never been to one of my events before, anything we'd really... She knew what kind of we did, but not really. And she came to Funnel Hacking Live, the very first one. And she didn't come down at first, because she didn't realize what was happening. And she was doing some stuff, and then, she came down with one of her friends and walked in the back of the room, and saw all the stuff. And she started just crying. She was like, "Oh, this is what you're... I had no idea this is what was happening, and what was..." And then, it became real for her. And that was such a huge blessing for me, because now, the next time, it was like, "We have to work hard for this." Or, "We're planning for..." whatever, she was able to see this is the fruits, and like, "Oh, that's why you're doing it." Now, if you notice, my wife's, every Funnel Hacking Live, front row. She doesn't understand a word we're saying, but she's there, she's paying attention, because she's like, "Look at all the people, and their lives are changing, and impacting." And now, it's different, where when I got to do work, work late nights, or whatever, she sees the vision, and she's on board with it. So it makes so much easier. The other secret I learned is if I tell her, if it's like 05:00 at night, I'm like, "Crap, I got to stay late tonight." And I call her at 05:00 at night, nothing good can come from that. It's better if you just go home, right? If I know Wednesday night, I'm going to be working late, I tell her Monday. Like, "Hey, Wednesday night, there's a good chance I'm going to be late." And then, if I tell her that, she's totally cool with it, right? But you don't tell them the day of. It'll destroy your marriage more than anything. Matt: That's good wisdom. Russell: The other secret, this secret don't put on camera, I don't want my wife to... Matt: Is that right? Russell: Yeah, if I have any inclination that people are coming to town, or something's happening, I always like, "Just so you know, next week, Matt and Caleb are coming to town. There's a good shot we might go to dinner at night, just so you're fully aware." And she's like, "Cool." And then, it's fine. The other secret, this is the real one. So don't share this outside this room. Speaker 4: This is the off camera one. Russell: Yeah. So especially after... For my wife and I... So we started having kids, the same time I started this business, right? And so, I'm traveling, I'm going to events. And she's at home with the kids. And so, we never traveled before, so I'm going on these vacations, I'm meeting these cool people, I'm in hotel rooms. So every night, I'm getting back, and I'm like, "Oh my gosh." And I'm like, "Okay, I met so and so, and then..." all these things I'm so excited, so pumped about these things. And I'm telling her about stuff, and she's at home with twin babies, miserable, tired, horrible, feet hurt, body hurt. And I'm out having the time of my life. Matt: Yeah. Russell: And I'm thinking she's going to be pumped for me, right? Matt: Right. Russell: No. And for probably a year or so, I was just like... And then, one day, I remember I'm at some event, and I get cornered by people. And then, introverted Russell's like... anxiety, and it was horrible. And somebody cornered me in the bathroom, and asking me questions while I'm peeing. And it wasn't even... At least, sometimes, most of the time, they fake pee next to you, so at least it's not awkward. He was sitting next to me, watching me pee. I'm like, "Can you at least fake pee?" And so, anyway... It was so bad. And I got home that night, and I call her on the phone, and I was just like, "It was horrible." I went off about how horrible it was, and I was miserable. And she's like, "Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry." But then, she was cool. It was awesome. And I was like, "I didn't get in trouble." And so, the next time I went out, I got home that night, call her, I was like, "Oh, it was horrible. My feet hurt, my back hurts." Anyway, and I've told so many people this, entrepreneurs and friends, who do that, and they shift... Because they don't want to hear you're having this... Anyway, is this truly good or not? I don't know. It saved my marriage. Matt: Is it true? Russell: Literally saved my marriage, and it saved so many of my friends, who… so many of friends, who had the same thing. They want to hear the stories, but not in the moment. When you come back home later, you tell the stories, they love it. But in the moment, when they're miserable, and you're having fun, it is not... First time with Tony Robbins, when I walked on fire, I call her that night, I'm like, "I just walked on fire. Waaa!" And I hear the kids screaming in the background, and she was angry. And I was like, "Huh." And I'm like, "Cool, I'm sending you to walk on fire next month." I sent her to walk on fire, and then she was on fire. But it was like... Caleb: She's like, "No." Russell: Later, she wants to hear, but not in the moment, because it's just like... Anyway, so- Rob: Yeah. Russell: ...that was- Rob: Makes sense. Russell: ...life changing for... Anyway, so... And then, the other thing is just you have to understand what your values are. I learned this from Tom Bilyeu at a level that was fascinating, recently. But- Caleb: Who was that? Russell: Tom Bilyeu, he runs Impact Theory. Caleb: Oh, okay. Rob: Impact Theory. Caleb: Gotcha. Russell: But he writes out his values, but he prioritizes them. So his number one value is his wife, number two... And he has the values written out. And so, when a conflict comes in place, or he gets asked to speak at a huge event, speak for the Queen of England, or whatever, but it's the same weekend as his wife wants something. He's like, "My wife trumps the value... 100%, she trumps it. So the answer's no, and it's not hard for me to say no." Caleb: Wow. Russell: And so, it's figuring it out for yourself. What are your values? Personally, with your family, the wife, everything like that. And you define them, and then it's like there's no question. That's what hard, is when you value something here, and your spouse values something differently, and the conflict of that is what causes the fights, right? But if you get on the same page, like, "Look, this is number one, two..." You have these things, then it makes it easier to navigate those things, because it's like, "No, I understand this is one of the values we have together, as a couple, you should go do that thing." Or whatever the thing might be. So anyway... Caleb: That's awesome. Russell: But marriage is one of the hardest things, but one of the most rewarding things, at the same time. So it's worth it, but it's a ride. Go through demand-relationship, man. That's- Rob: That's a great point. Russell: ...so good. Speaker 4: I got a question. Rob: Yeah, go ahead. Speaker 4: So two big things that I heard from you, amongst your story, you were talking this positivity. When you were doing great at something, or you learned something, you're so excited about it, you're so positive, but then there's this other part of you that's very vulnerable. Russell: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Speaker 4: And so, you experience anxiety, or you have challenging days, or you're discouraged. How do you find the balance between those, of being vulnerable and being honest with how you're feeling, versus, "Hey, this is a challenge. I'm an entrepreneur, I can overcome this."? Matt: Right. Speaker 4: What's the balance? Russell: Yeah. That's good. One of the... Everyone who's met Tony has a story about how Tony's changed their life. But one of the biggest things that I... There's three or four things that I got from Tony, the very first time I went to his event and I heard him speak, that had a huge impact on me. One of the biggest ones was state control, understanding that. Have you ever heard him talk about the triad and things like that? Speaker 4: Yeah. Russell: I'd never heard that before, and I remember watching him do these things on people in the audience. And it was fascinating. He took a lady, who was... He picked somebody in the audience who was suicidal, and he's like... It was the weirdest thing. And he talked about the triad, right? There's three things that change your state, right? There's your language, there's your focus, and there's your physiology, right? So he takes someone, he's like, "I need someone who's suicidal." He takes this beautiful girl. I remember, we were up in Toronto, so then he takes this girl, and he's like, "I need you to get depressed. Not a little bit depressed, clinically suicidal." She's like, "What?" He's like, "Just get there in your mind. Whatever it takes, get dark." And you see her state change, right? And he keeps pushing her, and keep pushing her, and he gets her to this point. And anyway, it's crazy I'm watching this. And I'm kind of freaking out, because I'm watching him do this to this girl, getting her to a point... And soon, she's bawling her eyes out and everything. And he's like, "You got to get deeper. Get darker. More miserable." All this stuff. And you see him change this girl's state. And all of a sudden it stopped. And finally, it seemed like forever, finally he stops and he's like, "Everyone look at her. Watch her. Look at this." He's like, "What do you notice? What's her physiology?" You see her body, you see tears, and all this stuff. And you see her just broken. And then, he's like, "What do you say?" And he goes through the whole triad with her. And he shows that. And he's like, "Now I'm going to show you how quickly you can shift this." To the point where it's like... Anyway, it was crazy. And then, he shifts it, and he starts taking her back through, shifting the physiology, shifting her shoulders, shifting everything, shifting her meanings, shifting focus, shifting what she's saying. And he gets this girl, within three or four minutes, to literal ecstasy, it was crazy watching this. And you see her, where she's laughing... the opposite side of it. And I'd never seen somebody like that, the flip of emotions, how easy it was, by just shifting these three things in her. And it had such a profound impact on me. Caleb: Is there video of that? Russell: Not maybe the one I saw, but he does it at every UPW, he does it... I'm sure there's YouTube videos of it, as well. But if you type the triad, I think he calls it the triad or state control, things like that, you see it happen. But I saw that, and I was just like, "Oh my gosh, I never realized that we had control over that. I thought my feelings were my feelings." Like, "Here's your feeling." Like, "Okay, crap, this is the feeling I have today." And after experiencing that, I was like, "I could actually change this." I didn't know that. And it's interesting because I think sometimes when we're depressed, or we're sad, or we have these things, I think some of us like it. I've had times before, I don't want to be happy. I'm enjoying feeling miserable. And sometimes, I sit in there because I enjoy, because we do, it's weird. It's messed up. But I felt that. I'm like, "I could change this but I don't want to." But other times, I'm like, "I have to change it." Now that I've learned that. It's crazy you can shift your state, and you can do that and show up the way you need to be. And one practical example of how I use it a lot is, when I get home at the end of the night... And this kind of comes back to your question, I think, earlier, too. How do you do all the things? And I told you this yesterday. One of the things that I got the biggest, from being around Tony Robbins, the most impressive thing about him is when... Tony's got... As busy as any of us are, take that times 10, and that's Tony, right? He's the most busy person ever. But if you have a chance, a brief moment with Tony, where he's going to say a million things, and you have a second with him, he is the most present person I've ever met. The world dissolves around it, and it's just him and you, and there's nothing else. You can tell. And he's just zoned in on you, and it's this magical experience. And as soon as it's done, he's just gone, he's on the next thing. But that moment, he's hyper-present. And so, for me, when I'm doing things, it's like... Like, when I get home at night, at the end of the day, park my car, I walk in, and there's the door before I come into the house. And sometimes, I'm anxious, I'm thinking about work, and thinking about stuff, I'm stressed out, the FBI sent me a letter today, Taylor Swift suing me, whatever the thing is. And I'm like, "Ah." And then, I'm like, "I'm going to walk through that door, and I can't do anything about it now. My kids are there, my wife's there." And it's just like, "Okay, I got to change my state." And right there, before I walk through the door, I change my state. Get in the spot, and then like, "Okay, here we go." And I walk through the door, and it's like then I'm dad. And it's different, right? And so, I think it's learning those things. Because it's not... Your feelings are weird, they're going to show up in one way or the other, but the fact that you can control them, which I didn't understand or know how. But as soon as I realized that, it's just like, "I don't have to be sad, or miserable, or anxious, or whatever. I can actually change those things in a moment, if I understand how." And that was one of the greatest gifts Tony gave me, was just understanding how to do that, and seeing it in practical application with somebody. And now, it's like I can do it myself, any time I need to, if I need to. Matt: How do you act around Tony Robbins? Especially from the beginning to now, because you guys are close now. He probably looks at you like I look at a lot of these guys, that are Caleb's friends. I look at them like nephews, these are like... I'd do anything for them. And I know that... I can see that's how Tony starting to look at you. But take us from the very first time, because he didn't he have you come to an event, ask you a bunch of questions, take notes, and then just leave you hanging, or something like that. Tell the story, real quick. Russell: Oh, man. Tony's so intense. I still get scared to... It's still like, "Ah." Anyway, every time I see him, it's just like... I don't know, it's weird. His presence is- Matt: He still makes you nervous. Russell: Oh, yeah, for sure. But the very first time... So yeah, it was... I don't know, it was probably 04:00 in the morning. I don't even know. The shorter version of the long story is they asked me to come meet him in Toronto, at UPW, same event as this whole experience happened. So I went up there, and supposed to meet him one day, and it shifts to the next day. And if you ever work with Tony, just know if he tells you he's meeting you at 10:00, it could be like four days later you actually meet. You're on Tony time. Yeah, it's- Matt: That's just how it is. Russell: It's crazy, yeah. Just waiting. But it's always worth it, so you just wait and be grateful when it happens. But anyway, so we finally get to the point where we meet, and I have to drive 45 minutes. This is pre-Uber, so I'm in a taxi to some weird hotel. And we get there, and then me and his assistant stand outside for another hour, waiting in the lobby. He kept looking at his phone, nervously, like, "Ah." He's like, "Okay, Mr. Robbins' ready to meet you. Let's go." So we run up the stairs, we go to this thing, we walk in this room, and there's- Matt: And this is the first time you ever- Russell: ...body guards everywhere. First time I ever met him, yeah. Yeah, he's like a giant, comes and gives me a huge hug. And we sit down, and he's like, "You hungry?" I'm like, "Yeah." And he was vegetarian at the time, so he's like, "Get Russell some food." And brought me out this amazing plate of... I don't even know what it was. But it was... I was like, "If I could eat like this is every night, I'd be vegetarian." Because it was amazing. It was- Caleb: It was? Russell: ...insane. And then, got his tape recorder out, he's like, "You okay if we record this?" I'm like, "Yeah." So he clicks record, picks out a big journal, he's like, "You're Mormon, right?" I'm like, "Yeah." He's like, "I love the Mormon people. When I was eight years old, I went to a Mormon church and they told me to keep a journal. I've kept a journal ever since. Do you mind if I take notes while we talk?" Matt: Wow. Russell: I'm like, "Eh, okay." So he's recording, taking notes, and then he drilled me for an hour. Just like do, do, do. Just like- Speaker 4: And how long ago was this? Russell: This is 13, 14 years ago. Speaker 4: Okay. Russell: Anyway, it was intense. And I can't remember what I was saying, I was so scared, I'm second-guessing everything I've said. And then, he's asking me numbers and stats, because we were trying to do this deal with him. And it was so scary. Matt: So he was just drilling you with questions, and just trying to- Russell: Oh, like crazy, yeah. I'm trying to just... Yeah, dude. Anyway, it was crazy. And then, he had to go back to UPW to speak again, so he's like, "You want to drive with me?" So I'm like, "Yeah." So go down, and jump in his Escalade together, we're in the back seat, and we're driving. And it's just crazy. And I remember he asked me a question about this one... I won't say the person's name because the story isn't positive for the person. But he asked, he's like, "What do you think about so and so?" I'm like, "Oh, that person's really cool and really talented." He's like, "He's a very significant..." and he just talked about six human needs, earlier that day, so I was very aware of here's what the needs are, right? And he's like, "Yeah, I don't think I'd ever work with him, because he's very significance driven." And I was like, "Oh, that make sense." And all of a sudden, I was like, "Ah, Tony is reading my soul, right now." I was like, "What drives me? I don't even know what drives me. Does he know what drives me?" Like, "Oh my gosh, am I significance driven?" I'm freaking out, like, "Ah." And all I remember is panicking, thinking, "He knows more about me than I know about me, at this point." And all these things, I'm freaking out, we're driving in his Escalade. And we get to the thing, and he's like, "I got to go inside. Thank you so much, brother. I love you." Jumps out the car, shuts the door. I'm sitting in the Escalade, like, "What just happened?" Matt: It was that fast. Russell: It was insane, yeah. Matt: It was just like- Russell: And then, the driver's like, "Do you want to get out here? Do you want me to drive you somewhere?" Like, "I don't even know where we are." We're in Toronto somewhere, that's all I know. And so, it was just the craziest experience. And then, I don't hear from him for four or five months, nothing. And I'm like- Matt: What were you thinking? Did you think- Russell: I was like, "He must've hated me. Maybe I failed the test. Am I significance driven?" I'm freaking out about all the things. And then, one day, I get this random... It was actually my wife and I, we were celebrating our anniversary, so we were at... It was a StomperNet event, but we took her, it was this cool thing. And she'd just gone to UPW. I sent her like three months later. So she walked on fire, and she was like... And Tony talks about Fiji there, so she was like, "Someday we should go to Fiji." And then, we get this call from Tony, and it was like, "Hey..." Or it was Tony's assistant. Like, "Hey, Tony wants to know if you want to speak at Business Mastery in Fiji, in two weeks." I was like, "Tony Robbins..." I started saying it out loud so Collette could hear me. "Tony Robbins wants me to speak in Fiji, in two weeks?" And Collette, my cute little wife, starts jumping on the bed, like, "Say yes! Say yes!" Caleb: Aw! Russell: And I was like, "Yes, yes, yes. Of course, we will." And then, we're like, we've got three kids that are all toddlers at this time, and like, "Can we bring kids?" They're like, "There's no kids allowed on the resort." I'm like, "We've got three little kids." He's like, "Ah, all right. We'll figure it out." So I hang up, and we're like, "We don't have passports for the kids, we don't have anything." So anyway, it was chaos, we're freaking out. We ended up getting them there, they literally built a fence around our... The Bula house, where's Dan at? The Bula house we were in. They built a whole fence around, so our kids wouldn't die because- Caleb: Did they really? Russell: ...there's cliffs off the back. Yeah, it was crazy. And then, I'm speaking to this room, and there's less than 100 people. I'm speaking, and Tony's sitting in the back of this room, I'm like- Matt: While you're speaking. Russell: ..."I thought he was not going to be here. This is really scary." Yeah. And he's paying attention the whole time. Matt: Does it make you more nervous? Russell: He introduced me, he brought me on stage, which was like... I still have the footage of that, it's really cool. He brought me on stage, which was crazy. And then, I remember, because in the thing we're talking about lead generation, I was talking about squeeze pages. And afterwards, he got on. He comes up afterwards, he's like, "Yeah, I heard squeeze pages don't work anymore. Is that true, Russell?" He's like, "People say they're kind of dead, they don't work anymore." And this is, again, 12 years ago. And I was like, "Who told you that? They totally still work." Which is funny, because we still use them today. But he was just like, "Somebody had told me they don't work anymore." And I was like, "They..." anyway, "They work, I promise." But anyway, and then I don't hear from him for five years, and then something else happens. It's just weird, these long extended periods of time. But then, every time, every moment, I tried... Five years later, it was a call, it was like, "Hey, Tony's doing this thing. He wants your opinion on it." So I spent like two or three hours with his team, consulting, giving feedback, as much ideas as I could. And like, "Cool, thanks." And then, nothing for two years, and then something else, and then... Little things keep happening, and happening, and can do more and more together. And then- Matt: What did you learn from that? You think that's just- Russell: A couple things I've learned. Number one, I'm sure you guys get this a lot, people who want to work with you, they show up and the first thing they show up with is, "All right, I got an idea how we can make a bunch of money together." Right? They always come, and want to figure out how they can take from you. And I was so scared, and grateful, I didn't ever ask Tony for anything. The first time I asked Tony for anything ever was 12 into our relationship, after Expert Secrets book was done. I had just paid him $250,000 to speak on our stage, and just finished the interview promoting his book. And I was like, "Hey, I wrote a new book. Do you want one?" Matt: Wow. Russell: And he's like, "Oh." And he took it. I'm like, "Cool." And then, a week later, I'm like, "Ah, will you interview me on Facebook with this?" He's like, "Sure." And then, he did, and that video got three and a half million views on it. It was crazy, coolest thing ever. But it was 12 years before I asked him for anything. And I had- Matt: Wow. Russell: ...served him at as many different points as I can. I think the biggest lesson from that is that... And I get it all the time, people come to me and it's like they're trying to ask and take. It's just like... I get it, and it makes sense. But it's just like, "This game's not a short game. If you do it right, it's your life. This is your life mission." Right? Matt: Yeah, that's good. Russell: And so it's just understanding you're planting seeds, and you're serving, and if you do that, eventually good things will happen. And something may never happen with Tony, and that's cool. I do stuff for a lot of people, and nothing ever good ever comes from it. But hopefully something does. Sometimes it's indirect, sometimes it's not, sometimes it's just karma, or whatever you believe in. But if you just always go with the intent to serve, not to like, "What's in it for me?" It just changes everything. And then, if you do that, if you lead with how to serve, stuff comes back to you. But if you lead with trying to get stuff, it just doesn't work. The energy's different in the whole encounter. You know what I mean? Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: So I'm sure you guys have felt that with people, when they first come to you, and it's just like, "Ah." Matt: So is there a point where you... You went to his house. Russell: That was cool. The thing I can say is it was really cool, because most times when I'm with Tony, you're around people. In Fiji, it was fun seeing him, because he's more personal and stuff like that. But it was really special in his home, because it was him and his wife, and it was cool. It was fun just seeing him as him, like as a kid. And even my wife, like, "He seems like a kid here." He was so excited, and showing us his stuff, and all the things. Matt: Ah, well, guys, listen. Russell: Anyway- Matt: A few more questions, because I mean, man, you've been at it for almost two hours, dude. I can go all night, and I know he could. But Brea Morrison, give it up for her for letting us be here. Thank you so much.

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LIVE Q&A: The Real Secret Behind The Value Ladder (Part 2)

Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2021 44:23

Register for the next LIVE episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody. It's Russell. Welcome back. I hope you liked the last episode. What you think about a live version of the marketing secret show? Anyway I hope you guys enjoyed it. First off, I think it brings a different energy level. When I know it's live, I got to show off to all the people I get to see their faces. It's hopefully you guys enjoyed that part of it. And hopefully, went to clubhousewithrussell.com and when registered so that you, that way, when we do the next live podcast, you can be on it. So that's the first thing. And then number two is, this episode we're actually going to share the Q and A's, there's about 40 minutes of Q and A with people who were there. And so in the future, if you want me to answer your questions, like, come on the show, go to the clubhouse with russell.com register, show up on the show, and then I'll talk about a concept and then we'll open the lines for Q and A. And you see some people got hot seats coaching sessions during this Q and A, which is really fun. But I think the reason I want to share these with you here, because I think most of the conversations that happened, there's something that each of you could learn from those conversations. So I hope you enjoy it. And again, if you do, make sure again, go to clubhousewithrussel.com and register, and that way you can potentially be on our next live show and get your questions answered. So with that said, theme song, we come back, you guys will have a chance to do the Q and A, for part two from our last episode, which we talked about the real secret behind the value ladder, and you hear everybody's questions and hopefully we get some gold for you in the conversations. With that said, queue up the theme song, and we'll see you guys soon. I don't normally do a lot of Q and A cause I just always get nervous that someone's going to ask me one of those questions. And so, but we're going to do it. Yhennifer, is going to help me out here. We're going to bring some of you guys up to stage. So if you've actually... Yhennifer, what's the process, they want to ask a question to come stage, they have feedback, or they want to talk about their value ladder or whatever, what's the process? How do we play this game? Yhennifer: Yeah. So let's do this. So this is the process guys. There is the little hand in the bottom. I see it going up the numbers. So make sure that if you want to ask a question or add on to this conversation and bring some value, you can actually raise your hand. We'll start bringing up five people at a time, and then we will let you ask your questions. So make sure that you also invite some new people, right? We can still invite people as we're here on this call. Everybody will get a chance to listen in this awesome value. And then one more thing I want to share before we bring people up, is that a reminder that this is being recorded, so this conversation is going to be recorded and let's see, we're going to bring up a few people as you come on here, please mute yourself. And we'll unmute you one at a time, that way there is no static in the background. Yhennifer: Okay. All right. We got a few people that we invited on this stage. So we'll start with the first one, Stacy. Stacy is a health coach Institute founding partner, bootstrap from startup to 270 amazing team members. So welcome Stacy to the call. We're so excited to have you here. What question do you have for Russell? Stacy: Hi Russell. Russell: Hi Stacy? Stacy: I haven't followed you in a long, long time so I'm excited to finally get to talk to you. Russell: Oh, really good. Stacy: My question is when you are first introducing someone into your ecosystem and you have this product suite, do you have a value ladder that you present at the beginning? So just real quick, ours is, we have a call center, so we're doing cold traffic to a call center basically. I mean, we have a Funnel in all of that, but just in the beginning, people seem surprised that we're a school. So they take the initial program and that there'll be graduate programs on non and ours are all pretty high ticket offers. We're not doing $27. Our first program is like $5,000, but still we want them to be able to ascend. And so do you have an Ascension map and saying, "Hey, you're going to be here for the long term. Here's what it looks like." Russell: Yeah, definitely. Stacy: That makes sense question. Russell: Good question. So a couple of things. So I'm going to answer two folks. One of them answers your question. One will answer probably people whose businesses may not have started at 5,000. So I'll kind of answer both ways and then we can go deeper. But so in our world we have so many front end offers because I love creating front end offers. And so we're driving traffic to front end offers plus the events all over the place. And so what happens to someone, they couldn't click on an ad and they made the first thing they see is just our events or a high-end coaching, excuse me, or something like that. So whenever they do that, it goes through that initial sequence of three or four emails that are tied to that Funnel. And then they're done, it drops them into a followup Funnel that starts at the very beginning of our value ladder. And so it's a 60 email sequence that I wrote that I sat down and said, "Okay. If my mom was to come into my world, she doesn't want a Funnel. Is she barely knows an Instagram is, what would be the process? How would I grab her hand and take her through this process? What would it look like?" And so the first thing I would do is I would show her this video on YouTube that I did that actually explains this concept. Then number two, I would show her my book. Number three, I would have listen to these three podcasts episodes. Number four... And I sat down and mapped that out, where I would take my mom if she was coming into my world for the very first time. And so we wrote that out and it took a long time. It was kind of a pain, but it was worth it. We wrote a six email sequence that takes them through all of the Funnels and the videos and the podcast things in order that I think is the best strategic order. So I'm go through them and a rolled those out put them in a sequence. And now everyone joins my world. They may get like one or two emails about whatever the thing is that they registered for. And it was done. It drops into that sequence and it takes them through the path that slowly sends them through all the core offers and training and everything we have a in the most strategic order. So that's kind of the first half of it. The second side, I think you were more talking about is when someone comes in and they pay 5,000 and you have this Ascension yeah, for me, I used to have multiple high-end coaching programs until a year and a half ago, or maybe two years ago, we took down the Inner Circle, but at Funnel Hacking Live, we're kind of reopening three programs. We have our two Common Club X our Inner Circle in our category Kings. And inside of that, everyone's going to know that like, here's the Ascension, right? If you're a zero to a million dollars before you got a two comma club award, this is where you live, you live in two comma club X until you've gotten that. And you've earned it, now you move up to Inner Circle. And the Inner Circles from a million to 10 million, that's where you live to get 10 million. And from there, you send up to a category King and so they see that and it's in front of them. And the more you talk about it, the more you mentioned it, the more people naturally want to send up. In fact, when I launched my Inner Circle, most of the marketing happened on my podcast. I would just talk about my Inner Circle members all the time. And people start messaging me. Like, "I just want to be in the inner circle so bad." And they kept seeing that that was the essential naturally wanted to go. And so I just talked about all the time. I put those people on my stages. I told stories about them and the books I told about them. And I was always just talking about my Inner Circle members. And naturally, people keep seeing that. And they certain wanting to, this is what I want to go. This is the path. This is the journey I want to go on. And so, anyway, I don't know if that answers your question, but that's kind of how we structure it for people to be able to see. Stacy: You did. You just totally sparked something for me that I wasn't thinking about before. Thank you so much. Russell: Sweet. Well, great to meet you officially. Thanks for hanging out. Yhennifer: Thank you Stacy for being here. Awesome. So now we're going to move on to Ryan Peterson. So Ryan is a digital marketing strategist, voice of the Entrepreneur Secrets Podcast and holds up the one percent summit. Welcome Ryan. Ryan Peterson: Hey, I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me up. Yeah. Russell, my question which is people who are starting out start on their value ladder. I mean, mapping it out is one thing, but where should I really focus my efforts and energy to get the most value, I guess for myself? Russell: So wait, say that again, your phone broke up a little bit. So you're saying you have your value out, you mapped it out. Where should you be focusing on? Is that what you said? Ryan Peterson: Yes. Exactly. Like what stage of the value ladder should I be focusing on? Russell: So show me where your business is right now. How much do you have built out? Where's it at right now? Ryan Peterson: Yeah, so right now, I have a podcast that is been a little difficult to going to create content daily and whatnot with had a baby recently in any way. And then I had a summit that I launched was a lot of fun and what I realized I don't have a next stage of my value ladder built out yet. And sitting back and thinking about it. I figured I should have thought out kind of the more pillars of my value ladder before I really start on the front end. And I'm assuming I was probably premature in building out the beginning of my value ladder without something more valuable towards the end, if that makes sense. Russell: Got you. I know where that's coming from. So I'd say a couple of things. I do think it's important people to start publishing and doing a summit or something initially, just because it gets momentum, gets you talking to people, finding your voice, like in our coaching programs, we start with that. But then the next thing is, you're saying, where do I make money, right? Where should I focus at? And so it's funny because when I first, this is like always been my biggest fear with talking about a value ladder is, if I can remember when I wrote the Dotcom Secrets Book, my first group of people that came into coaching afterwards was like, "Okay, Russell. So first I'm going to write my book, then I'm going to do my thing. And when they had the whole value ladder and all the stuff they were going to do." And I was like, "Wait, what?" The book is the hardest thing ever. Took me a decade to write a book. Don't start there. That was the biggest thing. Or they were trying to get all the things in place before the launch, any of it. And I'm a big believer nowadays. I try to guide as many people as possible. It's like, "Start at the very beginning." Where if you're doing a summit, doing podcasts, whatever, just to get the motion, getting into momentum. And then for me, the thing that I think is the best and just can be different for everybody. But for me, it's doing something about the thousand dollar price point and doing a webinar for it, right? Because I obviously love webinars, but that's where I focus at. Or if... I guess partially depends on the skill set of the entrepreneur, right? If you think you can be good at a webinar, that's where I would lead as my first big thing that I'm going to be spending a lot of money on, driving traffic and stuff like that. Some people are better on phone, right? If that's the case, I've started the higher ticket offer. Some people are horrible on the phone, horrible presenters, if so, I would do more of a traditional sales Funnel, where it's more written copy and stuff like that, kind of depending on your skill set, but I would definitely be picking one of those. I don't think you did out of order. I think the order's correct. I think it's starting publishing, is doing a summit because the summit introduced you as your dream 100, you get to know people, you start building a little bit of list. And now with that list, now you're able to go back and say, "Okay. Hey guys, my webinars starting come registered for my webinar. You have a chance to test it against traffic who knows who you are." And the second phase is, "Okay, here's all the people I interviewed in my summit. Now it's dream 100. Now, let's do a promotion to each of their lists, promoting the webinar, right?" And then that starts getting webinars better and cleaner and more efficient. And then the third step now is like, "Okay, I promote to my list. I promoted my dream one hundreds of lists. Now I'm going to go out and start buying Facebook ads or buying traffic to push people to the webinar." That's literally how we launched Clickfunnels. It was exactly that, right? I spent a lot of time building relationships with people through summits and other things. And then when Clickfunnels launched, we did a big webinar to our own list, made a bunch of money, which our dream 100 list made a bunch of money. And it wasn't till, I think we were probably year, year and a half into Clickfunnels before we ever bought our first ad. And before that it was all just focusing on those relationships we built through our own efforts. And so I think I would probably recommend something similar for you as you've done the first two steps. If you've done a summit, you got some relationships now, now it's like, okay, go and build your webinar or whatever the bigger one is. And now you can leverage your list and your relationships to launch it. And then from there you start transitioning to paid ads. Does that make sense? Ryan Peterson: Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much. That was invaluable. Russell: Very cool. No worries. Thanks for hanging out. Yhennifer: Awesome Ryan, thank you for being here. Now, we're going to bring up Mark. Mark helps real estate agents and teams to automate processes using workflows to scale their businesses while protecting their families time. Mark, what is your question? Welcome to the call today. Mark: Well, first off I just wanted to say thank you, thank you, thank you, Russell, for what you have done. Honestly, I am the product of the value ladder. I had zero comprehension of what you do and have done all these years until November. And I've spent the last 30 years developing software for real estate agents using what we call workflows and it's different than Funnels and stuff like that, but it has some similar. Not sure where I needed to go. And whenever I saw, I forget what it was that actually started at first, there was some kind of free thing that you had. Then I got the three books. I read through the three books. I did the one Funnel away challenge twice. We've already signed up for Funnel Hacking Live. I want to be on the two comma club by September, if not, I mean, it will be September of next year whenever you have it. But the whole idea of the frameworks that you brought to me, I just want to say thank you. Russell: That's awesome. Mark: It's just been amazing what it has spurred in my mind because of what you have taught, not only the free stuff but even the low level price stuff. I mean, just amazing. So I would love to buy you a dinner sometime and just take your brain. I know everybody else does too, but golly, you do not know what you have done to touch my life in the lives of my family. So just want to say thank you. Russell: That's amazing. I like you for that. I appreciate that. We've got a shot. If you would ask me a question to pick my brain right now, we got a moment. Mark: Well, you start talking about the frameworks and stuff, that was my biggest aha, was the frameworks, was the four core pieces of, four core strategies and I've come up with details and stuff. And right now it's just content. I'm just trying to build the content. And I am failing in providing that on a regular basis, but I'm in the muck of building other content. And I started the idea of building a book. And then you made some kind of comment in a previous thing. It's like, put that off until later. It's like, okay, I'll put that off the later. But I am building kind of the topics of that and that'll come eventually, but man, it's just like a light bulb went off and my energy has just gone through the roof. My wife is saying, who is this guy? Russell Brunson, because he has changed my husband. And it's just been amazing. So that's all I wanted to say. Which is thank you. Yhennifer: Okay. Russell: Thank you, man. I feel great. Thank you. Yhennifer: Russell, this is the part where you put the mic drop, you do the thing in the background. Russell: There we go. I appreciate it. Yhennifer: Thank you, Mark for being here. We appreciate you so much and see you at Funnel Hacking Live. Awesome. Russell: Absolutely. Yhennifer: Now, yeah, we're going to bring on Ms Bates. She is a certified life coach. Best-Selling author. Master EFT practitioner. Welcome today to this call. Let us know what you have for Russell. Any questions? Welcome. Ms Bates: Well, thank you. So Russell, I love you. I know it's a crazy way to start but, I just do. Oh my God. Yhennifer: That got real weird, real fast. Ms Bates: I know. It's just amazing. You have been such an inspiration to me. I'm a solopreneur and I'm just so grateful for everything that you've done and that you put out. Russell: Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Ms Bates: So here's my question. I'm a solopreneur and I've been working on different lead magnets. I've been testing different things like meditations or like do's and don'ts lists. But my question is once someone is in that Funnel, right, they go through that. My desire is to have them come to me for one-on-one coaching and then to put them into a group coaching program. And I'm wondering what the length of my email sequence should be. Russell: Got you. So walk me through what it looks like right now. So they come through a lead magnet and from there you're selling them into a high end thing. Is that right? That's the first thing? Ms Bates: Right. Russell: And what's the price point of the higher end thing? Ms Bates: The price point of the high end thing. It's a six months, $6,000. So if that is something that's out of their price range, then I down sell them into a group. Russell: Got you. And then what's the price on the group? Ms Bates: And the price on the group is 199 a month or 1997 for the year. Russell: Very cool. Do more people want to do the one-on-one work with you or the more do the group or is it kind of a just... Ms Bates: More people want to do the one-on-one work with me. I'm starting to try to move away because what I'm looking to do is scale, right? Which of course my time I can do more with a group than I can with the with the one-on-ones. So that's, I'm just trying to figure out how long I should be nurturing them? Russell: Yeah. The reality is especially those are the two core things you're selling. It's not so much how long do I do it for, it's part of everything you're doing right? It becomes part of your communication. You should be talking about it at everything. Do you know what I mean? For a long.. So it's not just like a 10 day or 30 day email sequence or whatever. It should be weaved into everything you're doing. So every communication, every email, every podcast, everything you're doing is always talking about these things and the people you have a chance to work with. I'd almost flip it around because you're going six... Are all the sales happening on the phone right now, or people buying just organically yet? Ms Bates: Nope. They're all happening on the phone. So it's all me like I'm doing the sales call, I'm doing everything. Russell: Is it what you got? Or do you like it? Ms Bates: I'm kind of falling in love with the sales part of it. So I want to get good at that before I outsource that. Russell: Yeah. Because I would almost flip it around a little bit where let's say, because you're saying you're into EFT as well, right? Is that what the coaching is based on that or something different? Ms Bates: Yeah, it primarily is based on that. Russell: Oh, very cool. So if I was doing it, I would make friends that are tied to specific things, right? Because I'm assuming you're doing tapping for, like you focusing on anything or is it like just kind of tapping as a whole? Ms Bates: Yeah. So for whatever reason, my focus has lately been it's multilevel marketing that are in the mid tier and they're having blocks getting to their next level. And so trauma resilience is a part of my passion and I know that those kinds of blocks show up for people. So I help people power through that and then get to the next level. Russell: Very cool. So I'd almost have something where the front end is tapping for trauma or for whatever it is, like something that comes in there. And then the first thing I would try to sell them is the $200 a month program. It's similar to that. I think that's if going to Annie Grace, she's the alcohol experiment. If you look at her model kind of Funnel hacker, that's what she's doing. She has a webinar right now that sells I think it's the same price 200 bucks a month. Or they can buy a year for, what is that? I think a year for 1997 for two grand, basically I believe is what her model is and that's where everyone goes through initially. She's not talking to those people, it's all being sold through a webinar and then after they've gone through like an hour long webinar, some signups some didn't. But then from there, the next part of the sequence is like, "Hey, if you're interested getting one-on-one help with me, go fill out the application here." And what'll happen is a couple of things, is it you'll start making money on a whole bunch of people you never talked to, which is nice, right? That's the first step. And the second step is that then when you start getting people on the phone, those people are going to be way easier to close because they sat through a 90 minute webinar with you. They’ve seen the value in those kinds of things. The craziest thing is when we... So I had my first big coaching program, my Inner Circle I ran that and it was a lot of work we had, I don't know, 20 or 30 people in it at a time. And then that's about time to Clickfunnels' launch. Clickfunnels launched. And it was a 90 minute webinars selling a thousand dollar product. And we started doing that like crazy. And then what was insane is that somebody will watch the 90 minute webinar side of Clickfunnels, found my coaching page on the thank you page and start applying. And my program went from 30 people to a hundred people in like two months. Like it was just caught on fire because the sales calls now easy. They're like, "We just watched Russell those 90 minutes. We want that." I was like, "Okay." And we're trying to sell them. Literally this is my credit card. I don't need any selling. It became so easy because the webinar pre-framed them. And again, not everyone's signed for coaching. Tons of people bought Clickfunnels there. And then the cream of the crop rose up and they came and they were ready. It's almost like if you flip your model a little bit, I bet you'd have more success because first off you going to making money off people who you haven't talked to you and the people you talk to, you're going to be more pre-framed to actually come in and buy from you. Ms Bates: Thank you. So the invitation initially is for the webinar or do I still put them through, like go through the freebie and then to the webinar and then to the group on, so you're up moving back this up, you're saying make the offer on the webinar for the group and then an application to one-on-one coaching. So that's my offer? Russell: Are you in a webinar right now or? Ms Bates: No, I'm not doing a webinar. Russell: So first thing I do is whatever you do and I'll keep doing it because you don't want that to stop. Like somebody to be like, take your eye off the ball. I keep doing that. Just it's working. Don't mess with that. So that's for sale. On the side, I would start creating webinars specifically to sell your $200 a month program. And then you start driving traffic directly to that and that'll become this new path. And then when that past making more money than the other one, then I would transition everything over. But don't mess with those working right now. Because it's working, I don't want to affect your business, but this is how I think long-term, this will become something that will be much more sustainable, more powerful for you. Does that make sense? So that's kind of how I would do it. Ms Bates: It does. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I love you again. Russell: No worries. Love you too. Thanks for hanging out. Yhennifer: Awesome, Ms. Bates, I'm glad that you got your question answered guys. Just a reminder, you guys can add some people onto this call. We're still going to be here for a few more minutes. We're so excited to be here. Guys? Russell is dropping some nuggets, okay? People pay thousands of dollars to get this coaching. So I'm so excited for all you guys that get a chance to ask Russell questions. So now we are going to bring Richard. Richard is that how you pronounce your name? He's a travel advisor. A key to the world travel, Disney destination expert. If I messed up your name, I'm sorry, but I hope I'm saying it correctly, but it's your turn. Welcome to the call. Richard: Thank you guys so much for having me through. You can call me, Rich. Everybody can call me Rich. That's fine. Yhennifer: Rich. Richard: So Russell, just want to say, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm currently rereading probably the third or four time Expert Secrets. I was in Own Your Future this past week. I was part of that lead challenge that you had, the five day lead challenge. I like in your world, bro. So just want to say, thank you. Russell: Thanks man. Glad to have you here. Richard: Yeah. So my question is really so as a travel agent really my value ladder is bringing leads in, educating them on the best, we'll take Disney for instance, the best Disney vacation ever, right? I provide value, value, value, and then they go through their trip and then after that it's pretty much done. So that's kind of like the result, right? If I was to say, a problem to solution. My question is for you, what else should I think about to really continue to bring more value? And really, I don't have like a $7 lead magnet to a $97 to a mastermind to Inner Circle, all that how should I be thinking about my value ladder? Russell: So right now taught value ladder, someone goes through is a Disney cruise or Disney trip, what exactly are they getting in the end? Richard: So doesn't matter. It could be Disney world vacation, Disney cruise, basically it's a vacation. Russell: Got you. One thing, so my family has done a bunch of Disney vacations. We just got back a little while ago from one and it was funny. We were joking. We did our first Disney cruise. Like when you get on the boat, there's the dudes with the big old Disney hand or Mickey mouse hands on their high five. And you're coming on and they're giving you drinks. This is amazing experience coming on, it's the photograph and you need to get on the boat. And then the boat's amazing. And then when the cruise is done, you get off and there's no one greeting you it's like dead. When you walk off, it's like they shove you out to the buses. And you're just like, "Wow. It's over that. That experience has ended really bad." And it was funny, because then the next time we're booking a cruise, right? The last thing you remember from Disney was just like horrible experience where it's just ended. And we're sitting by the buses waiting for our thing. It ended on this really down note as opposed to an up note. Richard: Oh no. Russell: And so then we're like, Worsley book cruise and right? Well, Disney was cool, but it's kind of weird at the end. And then, so we booked with a Norwegian next time or whatever. And so it's the little things like that. So like I would be looking at okay, because obviously in a business like that, people who do those things, do those things, right? We did Disney, we did the VIP tours, did all kind of stuff. And we spent a lot of money and it's awesome, and we had a great experience. And what's crazy to me just as a marketer is like, when we got done, they're like, all right, we'll see you. And I'm just like, you realize people come to Disney and pay for VIP tours, come to Disney and pay for VIP tours. I was like, why didn't somebody Jetta offers something right there and right. Or the next day, or call us next week. Like, how was the experience? What was it like? Nobody did that to me. And I was like, we probably would have been probably still will because the experience was great. We'll probably re-booking for whenever, but they could have doubled their money right then on the spot while we're at the peak of emotional intensity, as opposed to waiting further down the line, that'd be the first thing we're looking at is like, how do you capture that right? In a way that now you can like, get them booked on the next thing. Especially again, people are paying higher and stuff. They travel more often. It can be every six months they're looking for something like that. And that becomes this huge high ticket recurring program. That'd be the first thing I would kind of think through. Do you have a process now when someone finishes that you take them through to get them to re up for the next thing? Richard: Yeah. I'm working on my follow-up scripts right now. The email followups after they've gone through. And then, yeah, even just what you were saying, what happens now? What happens next? They're kind of like in this, I had an amazing experience and then kind of the experience kind of dies off. Russell: Yeah. Had to get that back up and because that'd be the biggest thing. Because now you're not going and finding a new lead, convincing them, you're going through a process like it's, you've got them. You just got to get them to it again. Mark Joyner, was my first mentor and his second book is called the Great Formula. And inside the book, he says the secret to successful businesses is getting your customers to take a second drink, right? The first drink is like, you just go through all this effort from the ad to the conversion, to everything for the first drink. And we got him and then we like forget about and go try to get more people to give him drinks. Like, no, they're like the money in your business, which just comes back to value ladders, is like the second drink, right? Because that's all pure profit. You don't have to get the ad. You don't have to do the stuff. They're already sold. You just got to ask them for a second drink. And it's shifting the focus to that. Because I'm assuming you got a lot of things happening on the front end. It's just, man, how do you get the second, third and fifth vacation? And who do they know that can vacation with them, right? Like we vacation with our friends now. And so it's like, we have a good experience. The next trip. Usually we're riding our friends. So it's like, Hey, let's build a bigger trip. Like who else can you bring? You bring your family, your friends, and crafting something with them where now that's just for you, it's just pure profit. Richard: Yeah. I'm even going through Expert Secrets. And I don't want to take up too much of the time. Sorry. Just even thinking about, who do I want to serve, right? I've been called to serve a certain group and I have that kind of my avatar down. And so it's just serving them. It's not just Disney cruises or Disney vacations. It's, "Hey, have you thought about an all-inclusive Cancun resort?" Something different but still an experience that they can have. And there like you said, I think I like what you said in terms of just keep that first drink, that second drink, that third drink. So maybe just thinking about my email or marketing afterwards, if it's a survey, if it's something and just say, "Hey, how was it? What'd you like about it? Hey, did you know that this is happening? And you can book this next time." Russell: Oh yeah. I think even pre-building a trip. My wife would get stuff sometimes in email, or she'll see people, our friends on social media who posts these pictures from this trip. And then she's, "Oh, where'd they go?" And she'll call them up and find out. And then we ended up going that same trip. We would do those kinds of things versus like, Hey, here's getting them to socially share trip with other people. And then vice versa is like you coming to them like, Hey, so inside of our community here, we've got this community of, I don't know, whatever you call them are our community of travelers, right? And here's someone just went to Mexico, check out what they get in, check out this trip. And here's four or five people on trips. If you want info on these trips, let me know we can connect you with the same thing. But look at these pictures from everybody and creating a culture like that, where everybody is kind of sharing their trips amongst each other. And then you're the one that's booking them back and forth and it can be really cool. Richard: I'm actually building the Facebook group right now. And that's where I'm funneling every everyone too. So that I can go live there. I can go talk to people and just tell them, "Hey, these people went on this trip." And then have them come on as a Zoom call and just talk about their trip and what they liked and maybe inspire others to book that same trip. Russell: Nice. Awesome, man. That's very cool. What a fun business. Richard: Thank you. Thank you very much. And like I said, thank you so much for all you did for me and just all the value you provide. Russell: Oh, no worries. I appreciate that. Yhennifer: Thank you. Rich. Thank you for being here. We're going to bring on JJ. JJ has helped celebrities, artists, big brands and media companies create over 650 million in revenue by building relationships, my favorite thing in the world. What questions do you have for us so JJ? JJ: Oh my God it's Russell. What's up Russell? All right. So how many questions? What's my limit? What's my limit here. Yhennifer: You get one. JJ: I get one. Oh, God. I got to make this good. Russell: Don't mess it up. JJ: Really long one or really short one? Russell: We'll see. Give us the first one first. Just kidding. JJ: All right. On a serious note. So before you hired the best community manager in the world, and brought her on your team, how did you build those relationships with, I mean, your company blew up, I've been watching you from the beginning and I mean, within just a year or two, you blow up faster than almost anybody in the digital space. How did you keep those connections and build those connections and keep that community strong? I mean, you have the biggest, and I hate to say the four letter word, cult, behind you in the world when it comes to software. How did you do that in your value ladder? Russell: That's such a great question. And it's funny because Dave would have, you guys know he's now the CEO Clickfunnels has been for the last almost a year now. He does a great job, but it's funny because he'll go off call and coming to me, he's like, man, Russell, you've dug your wells so deep. He's like people just say yes to anything I ask them to do. And I think it was what you understand is that people, depending on when you came into my world, when people come in, it's like you see something, you saw Clickfunnels, you saw this, you saw this. But what people don't know is that I was in this game for man probably, I mean, years now, 10, 12 years before we launched Clickfunnels. And that time was doing that building relationships. In fact, I joked at the very beginning of this, I've been doing this so long, before Facebook, before MySpace, like Friendster was the hot social network when I was in college, when I started this game. And Friendster did not have an ad platform, Google had an ad platform, but a year into my business, they the Google slap happened and it ended. So I had a decade where we were not able to buy ads. There was nowhere to buy ads. You can buy banner ads kind of, but they didn't work that well. And so all I could do, the only way to get traffic was through relationships. And so I went to every event. I have to go to events and find out who the people that have traffic. And this is for me, it's hard because I'm super introverted and scared to death of people. And so what I did is I found extroverts who I liked. I said, "Hey, come to this event, I'll pay for you to go with me." And we go to these events. I'm like, okay, I have to meet all these people because they have traffic. These people have email lists and they got a blog and they got these different things. And I spent a decade of doing that, right, of going and talking to people, getting to know them, building relationships using the assets I had to help them to promote them, to either promote their stuff or to help them with different things wherever I could do. And so I spent a lot of time doing that. I think that's what people don't understand. They think that like, oh, he came out of nowhere. It just blew up. It's no, I spent so much time going out and building relationships. So when Clickfunnels came about, it was nice because it wasn't me just cold calling and Hey, you're who I am yet, but you should pro Clickfunnels. It was like, Hey, this is Russell, and we're friends and this is this project I'm working on. What do you think about? What would you do if you were me and the most amazing minds in the world, sharing with me what they would do, if it was them and giving me ideas and strategies and then they felt like they were part of it when we launched it and rolled it out. And so I think that's a big part of it, obviously you're tied into the relationship side of things, but I don't think people put enough effort into that. They focus on the quick ask, the quick wins. And not like, how do I actually build a real relationship? I was telling someone because we were last week at the Dean and Tony launch and somebody asked me, how'd you get to know Tony Robbins? How did you know? And I was like, "Well, I spent 12 years of my life serving him in any way I could, before I ever asked him for anything." It was 12 years of like, let me just help him and help him and help him. And since then, man, he's done so much promoting the last three or four years. But it came from a decade of building relationship. And I think you can build a relationship faster than that. Tony's obviously super human and the hardest person on earth to get a hold of. But it comes with leading first, serving and having to help people and getting to know people and stuff like that. So, yeah, it was a lot of digging my well, before we launched ClickFunnels. JJ: Well thank you for saying that you're on the stage. Because you come into some of these clubhouse rooms and you get these marketers, "Oh, you got to buy ads. You've got to buy ads." I didn't buy ads for 10 years, myself. I mean, you know Brad Hart. I work with Brad Hart now. He didn't buy ads for the first five years of his business and build those relationships first. Thank you for saying that. But honestly you really, I mean, I think leveled up your game by hiring a community manager. She's up on the stage. She's keeps your community engaged. Love Yhennifer. So throwing some love towards Yhennifer. So my second question... Yhennifer: It has to be quick, Jay. JJ: It's fast. You can beat me later. What is your favorite Oreo cookie? Russell: My favorite Oreo cookie. So actually when Collette and I got married, they toilet paper our car, we were driving out and they got Oreos and they stuck them to the side of the car, but the Oreos had pop rocks inside the frosting. And I remember pulling off the car and I was like, "This is disgusting, but I love pop rocks." And so, yeah. And I don't think I've seen pop rock Oreo frosting since then. But if they ever bring it back, I will be the first in line. So that'd probably be my favorite. I don't know. JJ: Oh. Yhennifer: That was a good one. Russell: That was worth it. Yhennifer: You guys heard it. You guys heard it first. If you find that out there, go ship it to the Clickfunnels headquarters, because boss we'll be happy. Russell: Oh man. Yhennifer: That was so good. All right. My girl McCall. McCall is the founder of Charisma Hacking. What question or anything you want to add? Russell: And hold on. And she's a speaker at this year's Funnel Hacking Live event. Yhennifer: Are you going to to be there? I'm so excited. First of all, before we get McCall to talk, guys, if you have not bought your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live, go to funnelhackinglive.com, get your tickets and I'll see you guys there. McCall, the mic is yours. McCall Jones: Oh my gosh. Hi friends. Thanks so much. I was just going to add two things that helped the value ladder really make sense for me in the last year and a half. Since I started this. Russell, you know I study everything that you do. And the first thing that I did was read.comsecrets. Something that was a little bit hard for me at the beginning that, I mean, you teach on all these things, but it was the one product will create the problem that the next one will solve. And the first thing that I thought was like, "Oh my gosh, I have to create those problems. And I have to create those problems for people to ascend my value ladder." You had said something, I don't remember if it was in a podcast or I just heard you speak on a live somewhere, but you talked about the customer Ascension ladder and kind of the education part of it. And it put it all into perspective for me of the way that all of the sudden, I was able to shift my mind instead of being like, "Hey, you have to create problems from the bottom up and the problems that one will solve, it will open up a new problem to create the next product and all of that." Instead I thought, "Okay, the customer Ascension, where do you eventually want people to go?" So your Inner Circle and your category Kings and all of that, and then map out the steps that it takes to get there. And then with each program, with each step of the value ladder, it's just like, "Oh, what do you need to educate people on in order for them to want to join the next program, right? So it's an educational process that helped me with the very bottom of it, because I know that I think it was Ryan was talking about summits and creating consistent content and all of that. When I put it into education, all of a sudden the bottom of the value ladder made so much more sense to me because at the beginning, nobody knew what gurus Maggie was, right. It was like what the heck was that? Russell: You had invented a new term. Yeah. McCall Jones: Yeah. It was like, this is crazy. And it's hard to do that, right. You know you're in a really scary place in business where you're trying to solve a problem that people don't think that they have. And this education kind of form of this value ladder when you said that it really helped me think like, "Oh, okay. The bottom of my evaluator needs to be educating on my frameworks." So my whole opt-in bottom of the value ladder, what people can do with podcasts or the video content they're creating the summits, all those kinds of things. If they're consistently educating on their frameworks at the bottom, right? They first let people know what they're doing, right? And the problem that they're solving. And then from there, it's like, okay, now that you know what the problem is, and you can accurately say, oh, I do have that problem. Wow. Then you can move them up into paid products, and you can continue to educate them until they get to the highest level. But that was the thing that helped me the most, because at first with the problems, it was just hard for my brain to kind of wrap around it. And then it was like, oh, if you can accurately help somebody get through one specific step and then educate them on what they need to know in order to join the next program, then they will continue to ascend your value ladder because they will have a problem that's solved and they will have the education they need in order to address that they have a new problem. So that was something that helped me. Yeah. Guys, come to Funnel Hacking Live. You have to be there. Russell: Yeah. The thing I would add to that too, is like, I think a lot of times people are so stressed. I got to figure all these pieces and all the things. And one thing that I noticed when I first started doing this and I've noticed other people's that a lot of times you don't know what the next thing is until you start doing your thing, right? You start selling your product. For me, it was funnels, funnels, funnels. I wrote the book, we created a software and all sorts of stuff, that was it, right? That was the plan. And then as people started signing up and they buy the book and buy the funnels, then it was the next question kept coming and coming, it wasn't me making this up. It was like, oh, here's the question that everybody keeps asking like, okay, how do I solve that problem? How do I solve that problem? So the customers will bring you the problem. You don't have to invent them. You just do your thing in the best of your ability. And then listen. And if you listen, then the next thing will come to you and you know exactly what to do so. McCall Jones: Another really interesting, I'm so sorry. I just will be really fast. But at the beginning, I've built these frameworks for 20 years, but I didn't know what my people needed. And if you try to force what you know on people, instead of what they need, then your products won't sell, right. But instead it was exactly what you said, as far as finding your voice, the same thing was, I think it was Dave who just popped into this room, Hi Dave? It's about finding your frameworks, right? So creating your content and making sure that you're publishing on a consistent basis. It's creating these frameworks and refining them and seeing what sticks for people. And then it's not just like, well, I know this, that's what I should create a product around. It's like, no, no, no. People will listen. And they will. It's exactly what you said. They will tell you that market research is so invaluable. And then in that next program, if you're building it from the ground up, then you educate them. You listen to their problems and you let them ask questions and then they will reveal what that next product needs to be. Super interesting. Russell: Very cool. Well, thanks for call. Excited to see you again soon at funnel hacking live with all of you guys here who are listening in as well. I hope it's going to be amazing. Yhennifer: Awesome guys. Make sure that you click on that little greenhouse, make sure that you're following the Marketing Secrets Live Club. There's going to be many more. Right, Russell? Russell: Yeah, this was actually really fun. I hope... Did you enjoy Yhennifer? That was fun. Yhennifer: It was amazing obviously, listening to you. The value that you provide and also being able to speak to our funnel hackers here that we're excited to chat with you. Russell: Yeah. So I think the game plan we're going to try and keep news a few times. If it sticks, then we'll keep doing it. But I actually really enjoyed not just talking about topic and pushing the podcast. That was nice to get feedback or questions or like getting McCall, like doubling down. Like it's something I learned that helped me to make sense. And that was way more valuable to have that a as actual application of the concept, not just the concept. So I loved it. It was fun. So we'll let you guys know kind of moving forward when we'll keep doing these. But that was awesome. So thank you so much for helping facilitate it and make it all happen. Thank you guys all for listening. And will let you guys know when the next party is going to start. And I think, hold on, I got an outro. Should I do an outro? Yhennifer: Wait, before you put that outro, like do one of those money signs, money noises, things. Russell: Let's see. Yhennifer: Come on you got the buttons over there. Russell: There's a button there… We got… We're so funny. Yhennifer: That is amazing. All right. So we're going to close out with this out show. Thank you so much guys, for being here. See you guys in the next one. Russell: All right. Thanks everybody.

Same Product: One $2 Million, One $40 Million

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Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2021 15:53

The strategic thinking between the $2 million earner and the $40 million earner. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets Podcast. It's a Saturday. I just got done working out. While I was working out, I was thinking about something that's crazy. I have two friends that have a very similar product. One of them is very proud because I think they made $2 million from this product, which is amazing. Two Comma Club winner, yes, let's do it. The other friend did $40 million this year, and right now we are trying to acquire his company. And what is the difference? That's what I want to talk about here on today's episode. All right, so I set this up in the intro, but it's crazy. Two people have the exact same product. One, $2 million in sales, which is very amazing. One did $40 million in sales. So what is the difference? Both the products are the same. I'm not going to give you guys too much detail because, come on, you're my funnel hackers. You could go and try to find him and search him out. Look at the funnel, look at all the things. So I don't want to give you the answer, but I do want to give you the question that's hopefully going to get the wheels in your head spinning. What's the difference sometimes between a product that is $2 million and a product that's $4 million? Both are good, but if you're going to be doing the work anyway, you might as well have the one that does $40 million. Did I say four? I meant 40, $40 million. And so it's interesting because if you saw both the pages, both the funnels, both things, you'd be like, "Oh yeah, it's the same product. They're probably doing similar things." In fact, my friend, whose product did $2 million, has been doing this game longer than I have. He understands the business and he understands everything. It's not like he's a rookie mistake. It was just a little different strategy. That's it. The strategy he executed the product on was different. And what's crazy is that the $2 million friend does not know that my $40 million friend is thinking $40 million for the same product. They probably think that they're on par, they're doing similar. But it's crazy, and all it was, was a different strategy. And so that's why, if you think about it, I spend so much time trying to get you guys thinking differently. Not so much, here's the answer, because then it's like, here's the tactic. Go copy it. And I could do that. I could show you guys the funnel that did $40 million. And it's cool and you'd say, "Here's the tactics." Then you'd be like, "Oh, I don't know how to make that work for myself." I remember at one time, this is pre-ClickFunnels, I had a chance to interview my first mentor. His name is Mark Joyner. And in the interview, I was asking some questions and I asked him, I was like, "What advice would you give someone like me?" And this is, again, before ClickFunnels. He said, "The biggest thing is right now, you are very good at the tactics. You're very good at, here's the thing, I'm going to do the thing, and you kind of do it." He said, "What you're not as good at yet is you're not as good at understanding the overarching strategy." And he's like, "The difference between where you are now and where you want to be is you have to become more strategic of a thinker," however he said that. I think he used a big word that I can't remember, but conceptually I understand it. And at first, for a long time, I didn't understand. What does he mean by that? I don't get it. I'm confused. But if I look at these two businesses I'm talking about right now, one of them is very tactical. Boom, did the thing, great video, great sales copy, upsell, downsell, the whole flow is in place. The other person, same things, but his strategy was a little bit different. The way he sold this product was different. And it wasn't a big shift. It wasn't a big change. It was just thinking strategically differently. And so that's what I want to help you guys with today. I talk obviously inside of our community about funnel hacking and looking at things and modeling. But sometimes it's more than that. Sometimes it's more than just looking at someone who's doing it and modeling the process. It's looking at what a lot of people are doing, a lot of people in different industries. One of the mentors I learned from initially a lot is a guy named Jay Abraham. Some of you have heard of Jay. And what he was really, really good at was he was really good at not just looking at his industry and saying, "I'm selling insurance. How are other people selling insurance doing it?" He'd say, "I'm selling insurance. How are people who are building houses doing this? How are people who are dentists doing this?" And he would look at different industries. I remember when I was first learning from him about the same time that Mark Joyner asked me my tactic versus strategy question. I was listening to a lot of Jay Abraham's stuff at the time and I noticed that he'd be like, "Hey, I had a client that was in this industry over here and I didn't know how to help him, but I saw a guy in this other industry doing this, and so I brought that over and modeled it and boom, we blew up the company." And I think, for me, a lot of that started happening. In fact, it's one of the reasons why I feel like I'm a good coach nowadays, because so many people in my market in how to start an online business market, they're really good at starting businesses in the how to make money on the internet market, so that's what they teach. Whereas my passion and my focus for the last decade has been, how do all businesses use this stuff? I respect every business is different. There's tweaks and there's changes, but I look at so many of them. Because of that, because I have a chance to look at businesses all over the place, a lot of times they're applying planning strategies and I'm just like, "Here's what everyone's doing. Here's what's working." It's like, okay, nobody's seeing this, but in this market over here, somebody is doing that thing. Here's the tweak, here's the change, here's the idea. So my friend who has the $40 million business versus my friend with the $2 million business, it was just a strategy change. It was just my friend doing $2 million was doing what everybody else was doing and my friend doing 40 million just saw a different way. He's like, "Hey, everyone else is pricing this way. Everyone else is structuring their funnel this way. What if I made this little tiny tweak? What if I made this little shift?" And it's just a positioning shift. Literally, it's just shifting the positioning in the pricing strategy just a little bit. And from the same amount of effort now, one of them, $2 million, one of them, $40 million. And so I want you to thinking about that, looking, keeping your eyes open. This is the time to start developing your thinking muscles as you're looking at other people are doing. How are people selling things online? How are they selling them offline? What TV ads? What are you seeing when you're listening to Spotify? What do the ads say? What do the landing pages look like? Just keeping your eyes open for a bunch of stuff, even if it's not something that's in your market, because that's what a lot of times these big strategic ahas are going to come from. My friend doing 40 million didn't get that from the market he's selling his product in, because nobody's doing it. I don't know exactly where he got it from or if it just came up off the top of his head, if he saw somebody else doing it, but it was just a tiny, little strategic decision that now you look at 12 months of effort, both of them buying Facebook ads, both from driving traffic, both moving JVs, both moving all this stuff. One equals two, one equals 40. So anyway, again, my goal with this is not to give you the answer and give you the tactic, but to open your mind up to more strategic thinking, looking different, looking bigger, looking at other places, looking around, looking at what other people are doing, not just in the industry. Inside of that is where you start finding some of the big ahas, the big change makers, the big things that shift these things from $2 million to 40 million. So it's pretty cool. Anyway, if and when we purchase this company, I'm sure at that point would share with you guys some of the stuff on how it works and stuff like that. I'm just not at liberty, obviously, to share that because I'm under NDAs and everything. But it's just fascinating. It's really, really cool how a little shift like that can change things. So with that said, my job and my goal right now is thinking the same thing. With ClickFunnels, we're at this big transition point. Something crazy is happening with Funnel Hacking Live. I can't tell you about yet. I was going to say, you guys are going to die when you see it. And so, because of that, I have this window to make some strategic changes and differentiate in pricing and a whole bunch of things like that. So right now I'm spending a lot of time thinking about that, because I could just shift into doing what we're doing, which has worked and it's worked at a high level. But, is there something different? Is there something better? What are other people doing? We literally went and had everybody we could find search for different SaaS platforms and companies in every industry you can dream up. We end up with a Trello board with, I don't know, 200 or 300 different SaaS products. SaaS stands for software as a service, which is what ClickFunnels is. And so we've gone through and seen all those, and now we're signing up. We're looking at the prices, looking at thousands and thousands and thousands of these things. I had a chance to go see Tony Robbins about a month ago, and I was asking him, "Hey, if you were me and you're at this level and at this level, what would you do?" And he said, "Two things." He's like, "Proximity is power. Get around people who have already done what you're trying to do." And that was the first thing. And then number two was modeling. So I've modeled people that have done what I've done, but who are the people that are bigger? So, for me, I'm looking at Salesforce, I'm looking at Shopify. I'm looking at, who are these companies that are worth billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars, in some cases? With Shopify now, it's crazy. What are they doing differently? What am I missing? What are the pieces that I didn't understand that they understand? I think about Shopify, their shopping cart platforms, they're great. I love them. But they're not worth, in my mind, 144 times or whatever worth more than we are. But they are right. And why? Because strategically, these are the things I'm wondering. How do I get proximity to him and people who've worked with him or people that understand? If I want to get that level, I've got to think like the people at that level. And so, how do I expand my thought process? How do I get myself thinking differently? And it's getting around people who think that way. I think a lot of you guys, and this is true for me as well, when I got in this business, I thought differently, and I started getting around these people who had these big visions, I was like, "Oh my gosh." And by being around them, having proximity around them, my vision started getting bigger. I started thinking bigger. I think some of you guys hopefully have felt that when he came into my world and maybe you were just trying to make a quick extra buck on the internet, and all of a sudden you get in this thing and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, I could win Two Comma Club. I could change the world. I could start a movement. I can help people." And hopefully I've expanded your vision and proximities around that. That's why you guys need to be at Funnel Hacking Live. That's why you've got to plug in things we're doing. Because I feel like a lot of people in our community, I’m a few steps ahead, because I've been doing this for two decades now. And so my job is to keep pressing forward. I was talking yesterday to our Two Comma Club X students and I was talking about how I'm planning on reopening my inner circle but I'm also starting a new Mastermind group called Category Kings, which is for people who are between 10 and 100 million. And I said, as soon as I get to a billion dollars, I'm going to be opening another one that's helping people who are at the $100 million level get to the billion, but I'm not there yet. I haven't made $1 billion yet. I'm more than halfway there. So I'm working hard. But as soon as I get that, as soon as I cross the $1 billion mark, then I can have something where I'm going to be like, "Hey, for those of you guys who are at $100 million, let me show you the next tier. Let me show you what we did to get to the $1 billion." And so I'm trying to stay a couple of steps ahead and then taking people and pulling them up to the next level. And so, for me, I'm looking ahead like, who's already got to $1 billion? What did they do differently? What are the changes? What are the tweaks? What is the mindset? How do I strategically think differently? Because, for them, it's easy. Right now it's funny, because for some of you guys, the thought of winning Two Comma Club awards is this huge thing. Whereas right now, any idea that I had, if I was to execute on it, if it hit Two Comma Club within the first 30 days, I would think I failed. But it's just because I know the process, I know the path. It's not confusing or hard or difficult. It's like, "Oh, here's what you do. Boom, boom, boom, a million bucks." And so it's really a simple process at this point. And that's my job, is to try to, first off, inspire you guys, help you understand that, teach you, train you, give you tools and things. But it took me two decades to master all the principles so I can do that really easily. But now it's easy. So everyone wants to get to Two Comma Club in their business. I can help you because I've gone that path. And so, for me, I want to get around the thinkers who have hit $1 billion. That's simple. I was talking to someone who's friends with this dude who has sold seven or eight companies for $1 billion so far. Seven or eight times, this dude, it's like winning Two Comma Club awards as they go. Another Three Comma Club, another Three Comma Club. That dude thinks differently than me. I don't know what he's thinking about, but I want to figure that out. I've got to get around him. I've got to think differently. I've got to be strategic. And so, anyway, these are some of the things I'm working on and hopefully it helps you as well. So find the people that are the tier above you, where you want to go. Get around them. Surround yourself with them. Learn to think like them. I think a lot of times we all have this problem where we think our job is to try to get the people around us to think like us. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, my friends. That is not the goal. My job is not to get the people around me to think like me. My role is to find people I aspire to be like and to learn how to think like them. That's the difference. It's similar, this is not to get religious, but I think it's funny, for me, my beliefs are there's an all-knowing God. So there's a God. He's all-knowing, all-powerful, and what people try to do is they try to bend the will of God. Well, God should believe this, and we should believe this, and tries to shift our thinking. They want God's thinking to match what we believe, it's like, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works, you guys. The goal is not to try to shift God's thinking to match ours. The goal is to figure out what does God think and then we think like him. And I think that sometimes our ego or pride or whatever tries to shift to the other way around. And so it's true in that sense, but it's so true also in this business sense where it's like, find the people who are already what you want to do, you aspire to be like, and find out what they think and think like them. Don't try to bend their will to yours. Because if you go to me and you're broke and you're like, "I'm going to teach Russell how to get Two Comma Club. This is the way it should be." I'm like, "No, you're dumb." You can get smart. That's the cool thing about it. You can learn these things, but you're wrong right now. Because I've done this a million times and it's not that hard. Let me just show you how to it is." And so I think it's humbling ourselves. It's getting ego out of the way. Finding people a level up above us. Strategically syncing with them and then learning like they learn, believe what they believe. Think what they think. And that's the goal. So anyway, there you go. I hope that helps you guys. I love this game. I love this business. It's so much fun. So much development, so much growth, so much learning, but only if you're willing to change. So be open to it. It's worth it. As smart as you are and I am and we all are, there's always somebody who knows more than us and it's cool and exciting to be open to that and to go search for it and learn from them and try to get to the next level. So with that said, have an amazing weekend, you guys. Wherever you are in the world, I appreciate you. I see you. I know you're working hard. You're trying to create your dreams. You're trying to create your dream lifestyle. You're trying to help other people. I see you. I respect you. Grateful for you guys doing that. And if you don’t have your tickets yet for Funnel Hacking Live, what are you waiting for? The party is starting. I think we're at $2 million, $3 million. I don't know. It's an expensive event to put on. So I'm putting out on huge party for you guys. I'm spending millions of dollars to entertain and educate you. You should just be there. Don't miss it. Go to funnelhackinglive.com and get your tickets now. With that said, I appreciate you all and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody.

282[Entrepreneurship] 10 Keys to Improve Your Offer | Book: The Irresistible Offer - Mark Joyner

Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2021 8:40

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Episode 17: Episode 17: Time, Money, and Personal Energy

Do the C.U.R.E

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2021 30:40

Hello to Those of you seeking to playing the game of life and love to win! If you play to win your increase your chances of life success - in how you define success outside of your typical programming from culture, society and family. In this podcast I share the idea that Mark Joyner, founder of Simpleology - see link below- taught me and that is the three pratical areas of your life you can powerfully leverage for life and love success. Time - Mange your time Money - Manage your money Personal Energy - Manage your energy Management is the key word! You have great control over how you spend your time, money and personal energy and receive a return on that investment. The three other ideas that help you with managing and investing your time, money and personal energy are awareness, power of choice and finally acction. Therefore, it is my hope and intention that you start today to investing your time, money and personal energy with greater awareness, power of choice and consistent daily actions that will create the life and love you deeply yearn for that will improve the quality of your life in health, wealth and love in relationships. For more information check out: Simpleology https://simpleology.com/ My website: https://www.danhegerich.com/ My contact for personal or group coaching, comments, and concerns: https://www.danhegerich.com/contact-dan To live disease free one might consider it wisdom to learn to live more in accordance with Nature's Laws and your true Authentic Nature. Live Primal ~ Love Spirit

My Conversation With The Friendly Giant - Part 2 of 2 (Revisited!)

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2021 31:15

Here is the conclusion of the special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, welcome to Marketing Secrets podcast. I’m so excited, I’m here on stage right now at the Two Comma Club X event with Mr. Nic Fitzgerald onstage. A year ago I gave a podcast to him about how to make it rain and this is section number two. Now those of you who don’t know, in the last 12 months since I did that podcast he’s been making it rain and he’s been changing his life, his family’s lives, but more importantly, other people’s lives as well. And it’s been really cool, so that’s what we’re going to cover today during this episode of the podcast. So welcome back you guys. I’m here on stage with Nic Fitzgerald, so excited. So I made a list of seven things that if I was to sit in a room with him in front of a whole bunch of people I’d be like, “Hey Nic, you’re doing awesome, but here’s some things to look at that I think will help you a lot with what you’re doing.” So number one, when Nic first kind of started into this movement that he’s trying to create, I don’t know when it was, if you created this before or after. When did you create the Star Wars video? Nic: This was, we talked in July, it was September/October. So a few months later. Russell: How many of you guys have seen his Star Wars video? Okay, I’m so glad. For those who are listening, about 10% of the room raised their hand, the other 90% who are friends and followers and fans of Nic have never seen the Star Wars video. His Star Wars video is his origin story and it is one of the best videos I have ever, by far the best video I’ve seen him do, it is insanely good. It comes, do you want to talk about what happened in the video? It’s insanely good. Nic: So I told the story of, I’m a huge Star Wars nerd, so if you didn’t know that, now you do. When I was young my grandma who lived in the same neighborhood as me, she took me to go see Return of the Jedi in the movie theater and I was such a Star Wars nerd, even at a young age, that when I was playing at the neighbors house, and you know, it’s the 80s, so mom and dad are like, “Nic, come home for dinner.” That kind of thing, I would ignore them. I would not come home until they called me “Luke”. No lie. I would make them call me Luke, or I would ignore them. I would not hear them. Russell: Had I known this in high school I would have teased him relentlessly. Nic: So my grandma took me and I remember going and it was so fun because we took the bus, it was just a fun thing. And we went and I just remember walking in and handing my ticket to the ticket person. And then popcorn and just the smells of everything. And again, this is the 80s so walking in the movie theater; I almost lost a shoe in the sticky soda, {sound effects} going on. I just remember how my feet stuck to the floor and all that stuff. And then just being so excited to see my heroes on the big screen and Dark Vader, I just remember watching it. This is such a silly thing to get emotional about, but you know I remember the emperor and Darth Vader dying and all that stuff. It was just like, ah. It was a perfect day. Sorry sound dude. But it was just a perfect day with my grandma who has always been dear to me. So the purpose of that video, I’d put it off for a long time. I knew I needed to tell my own story if I’m going to be helping somebody else tell theirs. And I put it off for a long time, because working through things, I was afraid that if it sucked, if the story was terrible, if the visuals were crappy, that was a reflection on me and my skills. I had worked on a bazillion Hallmark Christmas movies, you know how they put out like 17 trillion Christmas movies every year, if one of those sucks, no offense, they’re not riveting television. Russell: They all suck. Nic: That wasn’t a reflection on me, I was just doing the lighting or the camera work. I didn’t write the story, it wasn’t my story. But this was me, so I put it off for a long time because I knew if I didn’t execute how I envisioned it, that it would reflect poorly on me, and it would be like I was a fraud. So the purpose of the video, there were three purposes. One to tell a story and get people to connect with me on a personal level. As I told that story here, how many of you remembered your feet sticking to the floor of a movie theater? How many of you, when I talk about the smell of popcorn and that sound, you felt and heard and smelled that. So it was one thing, I wanted people to connect with me and just see that I was just like you. Then I wanted to show that I could make a pretty picture. So I had that and I used my family members as the actors. And then I went and talked about how…and then I wanted to use it to build credibility. I’ve worked on 13 feature films and two television series and shot news for the NBC affiliate and worked in tons of commercials. So I’ve learned from master story tellers and now I want to help other people find and tell their story. And then I showed clips of stories that I tell throughout the years. So that was, I just remember specifically when I finally went and made it live, I made a list of about 20 people, my Dream 100 I guess you could say. I just wanted to send them and be like, “Hey, I made this video. I would love for you to watch it.” And Russell’s on that list. So I sent that out and made it live and then it was just kind of funny, it didn’t go viral, I got like 5000 views in a day, and it was like “whoa!” kind of thing. But it was just one of those things that I knew I needed to tell my story and if I wanted to have any credibility as a story teller, not as a videographer, but as a story teller, being able to help people connect, and connect hearts and build relationships with their audience, I had to knock it out of the park. So that was my attempt at doing that. Russell: And the video’s amazing, for the 10% of the room who saw it, it is amazing. Now my point here for Nic, but also for everyone here, I wrote down, is tell your story too much. Only 10% of the room has ever seen that video or ever heard it. How many of you guys have heard my potato gun story more than a dozen times? Almost the entire room, for those that are listening. Tell your story to the point where you are so sick and tired of telling the story and hearing it, that you just want to kill yourself, and then tell it again. And then tell it again. And then tell it again, because it is amazing. The video is amazing, the story is amazing. How many of you guys feel more connected to him after hearing that story right now? It’s amazing. Tell t he story too much. All of us are going to be like, “I don’t want to hear the story. I don’t want to tell the story again.” You should be telling that story over and over and over again. That video should be showing it. At least once a week you should be following everyone, retargeting ads of that video. That video should be, everyone should see it. You’ve got 5,000 views which is amazing, you should get 5,000 views a day, consistently telling that story, telling that story. Because you’re right, it’s beautiful, it’s amazing and people see that and they’re like, “Oh my gosh, I need that for my business. I need to be able to tell my story the way he told that story, because the connection is flawless.” And I think my biggest thing for you right now, is tell your story more. Tell that thing. You’re telling good stories, but that story, that’s like your linchpin, that’s the thing that if you can tell that, it’s going to keep people connected to you for forever. Anyone who’s seen that video, you have a different level of connection. It’s amazing, it’s shot beautifully. You see his kids looking at the movies, with lights flashing, it’s beautiful. So telling your story more, that’d be the biggest thing. It’s just like, all the time telling that story over and over and over again. That’s number one. Alright, number two, this one’s not so much for you as much for most of everybody else in here, but number two is that energy matters a lot. I’m not talking about, I’m tired during the day. I’m talking about when you are live, or you are talking in front of people, your energy matters a lot. I was hanging out with Dana Derricks, how many of you guys know Dana, our resident goat farmer? By the way, he’s asked every time I mention his name is please not send him anymore goats. He’s gotten like 2 or 3 goats in the last month from all of our friends and family members here in the community. Please stop sending him goats. He loves them but he doesn’t want any more. Anyway, what’s interesting, I was talking to Dana, and he’s like, “Do you know the biggest thing I’ve learned from you?” and I’m like, “No. what?” and I thought it was going to be like dream 100 and things like that. No, the biggest thing that Dana learned from me, he told me, was that energy matters a lot. He’s like, “When I hang out with you, you’re kind of like blah, but when you get on stage you’re like, baaahh!” and I started telling him, the reason why is when I first started this career, in fact, I have my brother right now pulling all the video clips of me from like 12 or 13 years ago, when I had a shaved head and I was awkward like, “Hi, my name is Russell Brunson.” And we’re trying to make this montage of me over 15 years of doing this and how awkward and weird I was, and how it took 8-10 years until I was normal and started growing my hair out. But I’m trying to show that whole montage, but if you look at it like, I was going through that process and the biggest thing I learned is that if I talked to people like this, when you’re on video you sound like this. The very first, I think I’d have an idea and then I’d just do stupid things. So I saw an infomercial, so I’m like I should do an infomercial. So I hired this company to make an infomercial and next thing I know two weeks later I’m in Florida and there’s this host on this show and he’s like the cheesiest cheese ball ever. I’m so embarrassed. He asked me a question and I’m like, “Well, um, you know, duh, duh…” and he’s like, “Whoa, cut, cut, cut.” He’s like, “Dude, holy crap. You have no energy.” I’m like, “No, I feel really good. I have a lot of energy right now.” He’s like, “No, no you don’t understand. When you’re on tv, you have to talk like this to sound normal. If you just talk normal, you sound like you’re asleep.” I’m like, “I don’t know.” So we did this whole infomercial and he’s like all over the top and I’m just like, trying to go a little bit higher and it was awkward. I went back and watched it later, and he sounded completely normal and I looked like I was dead on the road. It was weird. Brandon Fischer, I don’t know if he’s still in the audience, but we did…Brandon’s back here. So four years ago when Clickfunnels first came out we made these videos that when you first signed up we gave away a free t-shirt. How many of you guys remember seeing those videos? I made those videos and then they lasted for like four years, and then we just reshot them last week because it’s like, “Oh wow, the demo video when we’re showing CLickfunnels does not look like Clickfunnels anymore. It’s completely changed in four years.” So Todd’s like, “You have to make a new video.” I’m like, “I don’t want to make a video.’ So finally we made the new videos, recorded them and got them up there and we posted them online, and before we posted them on, I went and watched the old ones, and I watched the old ones and I was like, “Oh my gosh, this is just four years ago, I am so depressing. How did anybody watch this video?” It was bad, right Brandon. It was like painfully bad. I was like, “oh my gosh.” That was just four years ago. Imagine six years ago, or ten years. It was really, really bad. And when I notice the more energy you have, the more energy everyone else has. It seems weird at first, but always stretch more than you feel comfortable, and it seems normal, and then you’ll feel better with it and better with it. But what’s interesting about humans is we are attracted to energy. I used to hate people talking energy talk, because I thought it was like the nerdy woo-woo crap. But it’s so weird and real actually. I notice this in all aspects of my life. When I come home at night, usually I am beat up and tired and worn out. I get up early in the morning, and then I work super hard, I get home and I get out of the car and I come to the door and before I open the door, I’m always like, Okay if I come in like, ugh, my whole family is going to be depressed with me.” They’ll all lower to my energy level. So I sit there and I get into state and I’m like, okay, whew. I open the door and I’m like, “What’s up guys!! I’m home!” and all the sudden my kids are like, “Oh dad’s home!” and they start running in, it’s this huge thing, it’s crazy, and then the tone is set, everyone’s energy is high and the rest of the night’s amazing. When I come in the office, I walk in and realize I’m the leader of this office and if I come in like, “Hey guys, what’s up? Hey Nic, what’s up?” Then everyone’s going to be like {sound effect}. So I’m like, okay when I come in I have to come in here, otherwise everyone is going to be down on a normal level. I have to bring people up. So we walk in the office now and I’m like, “What’s up everybody, how’s it going?” and I’m excited and they’re like, “Oh.” And everyone’s energy rises and the whole company grows together. So l love when Dave walks through the door, have you guys ever noticed this? When Dave walks through the door, I’m at a 10, Dave’s like at a 32 and it’s just like, he wakes up and comes over to my house at 4:30 in the morning to lift weights. I sleep in an hour later, and I come in at 5:45 or something, and I walk in and I’m just like, “I want to die.” And I walk in and he’s like, “Hey how’s it going?.” I’m like, “Really good man. You’ve been here for an hour.” And all the sudden I’m like, oh my gosh I feel better. Instantly raised up. It’s kind of like tuning forks. Have you noticed this? If you get two tuning forks at different things and you wack one, and you wack the other one, and you bring them close together, what will happen is the waves will increase and they end up going at the exact same level. So energy matters. The higher your energy, the higher everyone else around you will be, on video, on audio, on face…everything, energy matters a lot. So that’s number two, when you’re making videos, thinking about that. Alright number three, okay this, you were like 90% there and I watched the whole thing and I was so excited and then you missed the last piece and I was like, “Oh it was so good.” So a year after that Facebook message came, you did a Facebook live one year later to the day, and he told that story on Facebook live. And I was like, “Oh my gosh this is amazing.” And he told that story, and he was talking about it, and I was emotional, going through the whole thing again. This is so cool, this is so cool. And he told the story about the podcast, and this podcast was an hour long, and the thing and his life changed and all this stuff… And I know that me and a whole bunch of you guys, a whole bunch of entrepreneurs listened to this story and they’re at bated breath, “This is amazing, this is amazing.” And he gets to the very end, “Alright guys, see you tomorrow.” Boom, clicks off. And I was like, “Aaahhh!” How can you leave me in that state? I need something, I need something. So the note here is I said, make offers for everything. Think about this, at the end when you ended, and everyone’s thinking, I want to hear that episode, where is that? How would it be? Now imagine you take the opportunity at the very end that says, “How many of you guys would like to hear that episode where Russell actually made me a personal podcast? And how many of you guys would actually like if I gave you my commentary about what I learned and why it was actually important to me? All you gotta do right now is post down below and write ‘I’m in.’ and I’ll add you to my messenger list and I’ll send you that podcast along with the recording where I actually told you what this meant to me.” Boom, now all those people listening are now on his list. Or they can even go opt in somewhere. But all you did was tell the story and everything and we were all sitting with bated breath and I was just like, at the end make the offer. You guys want the stuff I talked about, you want the thing? You want the thing? And then you send them somewhere and now you captured them and consider them longer term and you can do more things with them. It was like, hook, story, dude where’s my offer? Give me something. But it was awesome. How many of you guys felt that way when you listened to that thing and you’re just like, “I don’t even know where to find that episode. Russell’s got eight thousand episodes everywhere, I don’t even know where to look for it.” You could have been like, here’s the link. Just the link….if you guys can’t figure out how to make an offer, go listen to a whole bunch of stuff, find something amazing and be like, “oh my gosh you guys, I was listening to this Tim Ferris podcast, he did like 800 episodes, every one is like 18 hours long, they’re really hard to listen to, but I found this one from 3 ½-4 years ago where he taught this concept and it was insane. It was amazing; I learned this and this. How many of you want to know what that is? Okay, I have the link, if you message me down below I’ll send you the link to exactly where to find that episode.” Everyone will give it to you. You’ll be like, “But it’s free on the internet Russell.” It doesn’t matter. You know where it’s at and they don’t. They will give you their contact information in exchange for you giving them a direct link to the link. Back before I had anything to give away for opt ins, guess what I used to do. I used to go to YouTube and I would find cool videos from famous people. One of my favorite ones we did was I went and typed in YouTube, “Robert Kiyosaki” because he was one of my big mentors at the time. And there was all these amazing Robert Kiyosaki videos on YouTube for free. Tons of them. Hour long training from Robert Kiyosaki. Four hour long event from Robert Kiyosaki. All this stuff for free listed in YouTube. So I made a little Clickfunnels membership site, I got all the free videos and put them inside a members area and just like, “Tab one, Robert Kiyosaki talking about investing, Robert Kiyosaki talking about stocks, Robert Kiyosaki talking….” And I just put all the videos in there and made a squeeze page like, “Hey, who wants a whole bunch of free, my favorite Robert Kiyosaki videos?” and I made a little landing page, people opt in, I give them access to the membership site, and then I went and targeted Robert Kiyosaki’s audience and built a huge list off his people. Dream 100. Imagine with Dream 100 instead of doing just one campaign to all the people, if each person in your dream 100 you made a customized membership site with the free content right now, be like, “Hey, you’ve listened to a lot of Grant Cardone, he’s got four podcasts, 5000 episodes, there’s only four that are actually really, really good. Do you guys want to know what they are? Opt in here, I’ll give you the four best episodes of all. I currated all these for you to give you the four best.” And target Grant’s audience with that, now you got all his buyers coming into your world. Is that alright, is that good. Alright number four ties along with this. Number four, start building a list ASAP. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you do a call to action to get a list anywhere, have I? After today’s session you’re …..just build a list. If you got nothing from this event at all, every time you do a hook and story, put them somewhere to build a list, because that’s the longevity. Because that’s where if Zuckerberg snaps his finger and you lose all your fans and followings and friends, and all the sudden you’re trying to build over somewhere else, it won’t matter because you’ll have those people somewhere external and now you can message them and bring them back into whatever world you need them to be at. But that’s how you build stability in business. It’s also how you sell this time, you want to sell it the next time and the next time, the list is the key. Funnel Hacking Live, the first Funnel Hacking Live it was a lot of work and we sold out 600 people in the room, and we kept growing the list and growing the list, the next year we did 1200. Then we did 1500, last year was 3000, this year we’re going to be at 5000. We’re building up the list and building up pressure and excitement and then when you release it, it gives you the ability to blow things up really, really fast. Okay, that was number four. Okay number five, I wrote down integration marketing, adding to other’s offers to build a buyer list. So this is a little sneaky tactic we used to back in the day when I didn’t have my own list, but I had a couple of skills and talents which you do happen to have, which is nice. If you have no skills this won’t work, but if you have skills you’re lucky. So Frank Kern used to do this as well. Frank is sneaky. He used to do this all the time and I saw him doing it and I’m like, “Oh my gosh, he’s brilliant.” So Frank did a one hour presentation somewhere and he called it Mind Control, it wasn’t Mass Control, but it was something like about how to control the minds of your prospects through manipulation and something sneaky. And the title alone was amazing. It was a one hour presentation he gave somewhere. And he put it on these DVDs and what he did, he went to like Dan Kennedy and he’s like, “Hey Dan, you have all of your buyer and you send them this newsletter every single month,” at the time they had 13000 active members, these were their best buyers. He’s like, “This DVD I sell for like a thousand bucks. Do you want to give it to all your people for free?” And Dan’s like, “sure.” And all the sudden the next month, Franks got his best CD with his best stuff in the mailbox of the 13000 best customers, every single person that Dan Kennedy’s been collecting for the last 15 years. So think about this. With your skill set, look at the other people in the market, all the dream 100 who are doing things and how do you create something you can plug into their offers, and every single time one of those people sell a product, your face is popping up as well. It’s called integration marketing, my first mentor Mark Joyner wrote a book called Integration Marketing, it’s a really fast read. You can read it in an hour, but it will get your mind set thinking about it. How can I integrate with what other people are always doing? Because I can go and make a sell, and make another sell, but I was like, when we launched Clickfunnels I was like, “How can I figure out other people’s sales processes that are already happening and somehow inject myself into all these other sales processes?” That way every single time Steven Larsen sells something or someone else sells something, or all these people are selling something, it always somehow gets flown back to me. I want every product, every course, everything happening in the internet marketing world to somehow have people saying my name. That’s my goal. How many of you guy have been to other people’s events and I’m not there and they say my name? It makes me so happy. I get the instagrams from some of you guys, “Hey so and so just said your name.” I’m like, that’s so good. How have I done that? I spent a lot of my life integrating into everybody’s offers. Initially when I first got started, every single person who had a product, I was an interview in everyone’s product. I was like, looking at people launching a product, specific product launches coming, I’d contact them. Product launch is coming up, “Hey man, is there any way I could do a cool thing for your people? I could create this and give it to you and you could plug it into your product?” and everyone’s like, ‘Sure, that’d be awesome.” And all the sudden, boom, they get 5000 new buyers came in and every single one of them got my thing. They’re hearing my name, hearing my voice and it’s just constant integration. I think about how I met Joe Vitale, I talked about that earlier with the greatest showman. He was in an interview in a course I bought from Mark Joyner, I listened to it, fell in love with Joe Vitale, bought his stuff, given him tons of money over the years, a whole bunch of good stuff because he was integrated in that. So looking at other ways to integrate, the skill set that you already have into other people’s marketing channels because then you’re leveraging anytime any of these partners make a sell, you’re getting customers coming through that flow as well. Cool? Nic: Yeah. Russell: That was number five. Number six, I call this one rainmaker projects, because we talked about rainmaker during the first podcast interview. So rainmaker projects are, and again when I first started my career I did tons of these, where it’s like, I was really good at one piece. For you, you’re really good at video and story telling. And I look out here and be like, okay who is someone else here that is awesome? So and so is really good at making a product on Facebook ads. “You’re really good at Facebook ads, so I’ll do the video for this course, you do the Facebook, you do the actual ads for us.” And then, you’re awesome at doing the traffic and you bring in four or five people, like this little avenger team, and you create a cobranded product together and you launch it and everyone makes a bunch of money, split all the money, 50/50/50/50, that makes more than 100,but you know what I’m talking about, everyone splits the money, everyone splits the customer list and all the sudden you’ve all pulled your efforts, your energy, your talents together and everyone leaves with some cash, and you also leave with the customer list, and that’s when you start growing really, really rapidly. When I started I didn’t have a customer list, I had a very small one. But I had a couple of skill sets so that’s why I did tons of these things. That’s like, if you guys know any of my old friends like Mike Filsaime, Gary Ambrose, I could list off all the old partners we had back in the day, and that’s what we did all the time, these little rainmaker projects. We didn’t call them that back in the day, but that’s what it was. It was just like, we all knew what our skill sets were, and it’s like, let’s come together, let’s make a project. This isn’t going to be how we change the world, it’s not going to be something we’re going to scale and grow, but it’s like, it’s going to be a project, we put it together, we launch it, make some money, get some customers, get our name out in the market, and then we step away from it and then we all go back to our own businesses. It’s not like, that’s why it’s funny because a lot of times people are scared of these. Like, “Well, how do we set up the business structure? Who’s going to be the owner? Who’s the boss?” No, none of that. This is an in and out project where all the rainmakers come together and you create something amazing for a short period of time, you split the money and you go back home with the money and the customers. But it gave you a bump in status, a big bump in customer lists, a big bump in cash and then all those things kind of rise and if you do enough of those your status keeps growing and growing and growing, and it’s a really fast easy way to continue to grow. How many of you guys want to do a rainmaker project with Nic right now? Alright, very, very cool. Alright, and then I got one last, this is number seven. This kind of ties back to dream 100. The last thing I talked about was, and again this is kind of for everyone in the group, is the levels of the dream 100. I remember when I first started this process, I first got the concept and I didn’t know it was the dream 100 back then, but I was looking at all the different people that would have been on my dream 100 list. It was Mark Joyner, Joe Vitale, all these people that for me were top tier. Tony Robbins, Richard Branson, and I was like, oh, and I started trying to figure out how to get in those spots. And the more I tried, it was so hard to get through the gatekeeper, it was impossible to get through all these gatekeepers, these people. I was like, “Man don’t people care about me. I’m just a young guy trying to figure this stuff out and they won’t even respond to my calls or my emails. I can’t even get through, I thought these people really cared.” Now to be on the flip side of that, I didn’t realize what life is actually like for that, for people like that. For me, I understand that now at a whole other level. We’ve got a million and a half people on our subscriber list. We have 68000 customers, we’ve got coaching programs, got family, got friends. We have to put up barriers to protect yourself or it’s impossible. I felt, I can’t even tell you how bad I feel having Brent this morning, “Can you tell everyone to not do pictures with me.” It’s not that I don’t want to, but do you want me to tell you what actually happens typically? This is why we have to put barriers around ourselves. Here’s my phone, I’ll be in a room, like Funnel Hacking Live and there will be 3000 people in the room, and I’m walking through and someone’s like, “Real quick, real quick, can I get a picture?” I’m like, “I gotta go.” And they’re like, “It’ll take one second.” And I’m like, ahh, “Okay, fine, quick.” And they’re like, “Hold on.” And they get their phone out and they’re like, “Uh, uh, okay, uh, alright got it. Crap it’s flipped around. Okay, actually can you hold this, my arms not long enough can you hold it? Actually, hey you come here real quick, can you hold this so we can get a picture? Okay ready, one two three cheese.” And they grab the camera and they’re off. And for them it took one second. And that person leaves, and guess what’s behind them? A line of like 500 people. And then for the next like 8 hours, the first Funnel Hacking Live, was anyone here at the first Funnel Hacking Live? I spent 3 ½ hours up front doing pictures with everybody and I almost died afterwards. I’m like, I can’t…but I didn’t know how to say no, it was super, super hard. So I realize now, to protect your sanity, people up there have all sorts of gatekeepers and it’s hard. So the way you get through is not being more annoying, and trying to get through people. The way you get to them is by understanding the levels of that. So I tried a whole bunch of times, and I couldn’t get in so I was like, “Crap, screw those guys. They don’t like me anyway, they must be jerks, I’m sure they’re just avoiding me and I’m on a blacklist….” All the thoughts that go through your head. And at that time, I started looking around me. I started looking around and I was like, “hey, there’s some really cool people here.” And that’s when I met, I remember Mike Filsaime, Mike Filsaime at the time had just created a product he launched and he had like a list of, I don’t know, maybe 3 or 4 thousand people. And I remember I created my first product, Zipbrander, and I was all scared and I’m like ,”Hey Mike, I created this thing Zipbrander.” And he messaged back, “Dude that’s the coolest thing in the world.” A couple of things, Mike didn’t have a gatekeeper, it was just him. He got my email, he saw it, and he was like, “This is actually cool.” I’m like, “Cool, do you want to promote it?” and he’s like, “Yes, I would love to promote it.” I’m like, oh my gosh. I had never made a sale online at this point, by the way, other than a couple of little things that fell apart. I never actually made a sale of my own product. Zipbrander was my very first, my own product that I ever created. So Mike was that cool, he sent an email to his list, his 5000 person list, they came over, I had this little pop up that came to the site and bounced around, back in the day. I had 270 people opt in to my list from Mike’s email to it, and I think we made like 8 or 10 sales, which wasn’t a lot, but 67 that’s $670, they gave me half, I made $350 on an email and gained 300 people on my list. I’m like, oh my gosh this is amazing. And I asked Mike, “Who are the other people you hang out with? I don’t know very many people.” And he’s like, “Oh dude, you gotta meet this guy, he’s awesome.” And he brought me to someone else, and I’m like, “Oh this is cool. “ and Mike’s like, “Dude, I promoted Zipbrander, it was awesome, you should promote it.” And then he’s like, “Oh cool.” And he promoted Zipbrander. I’m like, oh my gosh, I got another 30-40 people on my list and there were a couple more sales. And then I asked him, “Who do you know?” and there was someone else, and we stared doing this thing and all the sudden there were 8 or 10 of us who were all at this level and we all started masterminding, networking, figuring things out, cross promote each other and what happened, what’s interesting is that all of our little brands that were small at the time started growing, and they started growing, and they started growing. All the sudden we were at the next tier. And when we got to the next tier all the sudden all these new people started being aware of us and started answering our calls and doing things, and Mike’s like, ‘Oh my gosh, I met this guy who used to be untouchable.” And he brought him in and brought them in and all the sudden we’re at the next level. And we started growing again and growing again. And the next thing we know, four years later I get a phone call from Tony Robbins assistant, they’re like, “Hey I’m sitting in a room and I got Mike Filsaime, Frank Kern, Jeff Walker, all these guys are sitting in a room with Tony Robbins and he thinks that you guys are the biggest internet nerds in the world, he’s obsessed with it and he wants to know if he can meet you in Salt Lake in like an hour.” What? Tony Robbins? I’ve emailed him 8000 times, he’s never responded even once, I thought he hated me. Not that he hated me, it’s that he had so many gatekeepers, he had no idea who I was. But eventually you start getting value and you collectively as a level of the dream 100 becomes more and more powerful. Eventually people notice you because you become the bigger people. And each tier gets bigger and bigger and bigger. So my biggest advice for you and for everybody is understanding that. Yes, it’s good to have these huge dreams and big people, but start looking around. There are so many partnerships to be had just inside this room. How many deals have you done with people in this room so far? Nic: Quite a few. Russell: More than one, right. Nic: Yeah, more than one. Russell: Start looking around you guys. Don’t always look up, up, up and try to get this thing. Look around and realize collectively, man, start doing the crossings because that’s how everyone starts growing together and there will be a time where I’ll be coming to you guys begging, “Can you please look at my stuff you guys, I have this thing called Clickfunnels. You may have heard of it. Can you please help me promote it?” And that’s what’s going to happen, okay. So the level of the dream 100 is the last thing, just don’t discount that. Because so many people are like swinging for the fence and just hoping for this homerun like I was, and it’s funny because I remember eventually people would respond to me, that I was trying for before, and they’d contact me. And I was like, oh my gosh. I realized, I thought this person hated me, I thought I was on a black list. I was assuming they were getting these emails and like, “oh, I hate this. Russell’s a scammer.” In my head right. They never saw any of them. Until they saw me, and they reached out to me and the whole dynamic shifted. So realizing that, kind of looking around and start building your dream 100 list, even within this room, within the communities that you’re in, because there’s power in that. And as you grow collectively, as a group, everyone will grow together, and that’s the magic. So that was number seven. So to recap the seven really quick. Number one, tell your story way too much, to the point where you’re so annoyed and so sick and tired of hearing it that everybody comes to you, and then keep telling it even some more. Number two, in everything you’re doing, energy matters a lot. To the point, even above what you think you’re comfortable with and do that all the time. Number three, make offers for everything. Hook, story, don’t leave them hanging, give them an offer because they’ll go and they will feel more completed afterwards. Number four, start building a list, it ties back to the first thing. Make an offer, get them to build your list, start growing your list because your list is your actual business. Number five, integration marketing. Look for other people’s marketing channels and how you can weave what you do into those channels, so you can get free traffic from all the people who are doing stuff. Number five, create rainmaker projects, find really cool things and bring four or five people together and make something amazing. Share the cash, share the customer list, elevate your status, elevate your brand, and it’s really fun to do because you get to know a whole bunch of people. And Number seven, understanding the levels of the dream 100. Find the people at your level and start growing with them together collectively as you do that, and in a year, two years, three years, five years Tony Robbins will be calling you, asking you to make his video and it will be amazing. Does that sound good? Awesome.

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NEW SOFTWARE: The Only Other Software I Use EVERY Day

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2021 11:00

This is my new favorite software for creating products, order form bumps, upsells, and more. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, I welcome you first off to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm excited to be hanging out with you guys and I'm thinking about doing some upgrades to this podcast. Which makes me sad, because part of me loves the way it is now, but part of me keeps thinking like, "What could we do to make it amazing?" Anyway, keep paying attention, because there's probably some cool stuff coming really soon. But Today I want to talk about something that is really cool, that is here today that I am freaking out about. And yeah, it's by far my favorite new tool that I've been using. Yeah, so you excited to hear about it? It's going to change everything for you. All right, so, I got to tell you guys a story. I remember... So, my first mentor in this business, his name is Mark Joyner. And I remember, if you don't know, it's Click Funnels and we had it live for, I don't know, maybe two years or something. We actually had Mark fly out and I got to build the funnel for him and it was really, really cool. I remember we were sitting there and I'm building his funnel and having so much fun, and he says something to me. He's like, "Man, I've never seen somebody who's really that excited about their own product." I was like, "Oh yeah, I'm obsessed with ClickFunnels. I'm here every day for hours and hours and hours every single day." Oh, I wish ClickFunnels would log time, like how many hours you spend in there. Because I guarantee, I think I spent more time inside of ClickFunnels than any other human on this planet because I love it. And how cool is it to be able to create a product and use a product you love so much, you use it literally every single day? There's not many people that can say that. In fact, I guarantee you that none of my competitors, the founders of the company, used their own product a fraction of what I use our own product because I use it every single day. Every day we're launching new funnels, we're testing new things, we're checking our stats and our ads and we're making split tests and tweaks. I'm obsessed with it, as you guys know. But it's been a long time since something like ClickFunnels has come out that I've been excited for, and it's actually interesting the backstory behind this. When we first launched ClickFunnels, there were three partners. The first it was me and Todd Dickerson, and then we brought in a third co-founder, some of you guys know him, his name is Dylan Jones. And Dylan was the one who built the original ClickFunnels editor. He was part of the team for a couple of years, and then eventually we ended up buying him out and he's been off on his own, having the time of his life for the last couple of years. Recently, he started just playing around with some new ideas and he wanted to get back to coding and creating and stuff like that. He messaged me a little while ago. He was like, "Hey, I have this new tool that I created. I want you to check it out." I'll give you the tool upfront and I'll talk about what it does. It's called one-pager. So it's onepager.io. So www.onepager.io, if you want to see what it is. But it's this really cool editor that makes these one-pagers. They're called one-pagers, right? At first, I was like, "Okay, I don't get it." He's like, "No, it's really cool. You can use it for making lead magnets or creating process flows or everything." I still didn't get it at first, right? I was kind of struggling. Then he demoed himself using it. It's so cool. He opened up this grid and then you drag the grid and you create a little blocking. Oh, what you want in this block? You want text or video or a headline or a checklist or whatever, and then you drag another block and really quickly, in like five seconds, I watched him build out a SWAT analysis one-pager and then he did another one. I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is cool." I'm like, "Let's do a one-pager for a concept inside my books." He's like, "Well, give me a concept.", so I'm like, "Okay, here's my storytelling framework." He looked at my storytelling framework and within five minutes he built a one-pager for it. That was insane. We're like, "Literally I could use it as a lead magnet", I said, "Hey, give me your email address and I will give you this one-pager, which is going to teach you my story framework" or I could sell them and give you the episodes and be like, "Hey, you bought my book, if you want here's my six one-pagers for me showing you all the processes of the book, section 97 bucks." I created an upsell for it in a heartbeat. In a few minutes, I created an upsell that fast from my book, or I can make an order form bumps or I can make... Oh, there's so many things. And I became mildly obsessed. I say mildly obsessed because I know to this day, there's nobody who spent more time inside of one-pager than me. I have built out now... I found out about it right before we launched the five day lead challenge, somebody has asked us to do the five day lead challenge. And in that challenge, I was teaching people to make lead magnets. I'm like, "Okay, everyone use one-pager." In fact, I got Dylan to go and create it so that everyone could create their first one-pager for free. So I was like create a one-pager and use that as a lead magnet. So in the five day lead challenge, we taught... I think we had 45,000 people registered for that, I taught them all like, "Hey, here's how to make a one-pager, go use that. Now you have a lead magnet you can go give away." And so I had everyone go create a one-pager lead magnet. And then we did the one funnel away challenge. I structured it where every single day I taught a principle, but I made a one-pager out of that principle. And every day they learn a principle from me. And then they get a one-pager with all the stuff in it, right? And the day two, day three... So I built 30 one-pagers for the one funnel away challenge. I did five one-pagers for the five day lead challenge. And now it's like every thought I've ever had, every concept, everything, every framework I've built, every principle, every everything I've ever created or dreamt of I'm turning into one-pager. That's how obsessed I am because it's taking these things, these concepts and it turns them tangible. It's hard to explain what a one-pager is until you actually see one. But it takes something and it makes it tangible, where it's like, "Oh, now this framework, this abstract concept you shared with me, now I can actually see it, I can touch it. It's a thing that I can actually... It's a one-pager." Ah, it's so insanely cool. And I'm excited because I literally have been using this tool every single day. And as I looked over the last literally 45 days, there's two products I've used every day. And that's Monday through Monday, seven days a week and that's ClickFunnels and it's one-pager. And I have to... In full disclosure, I got so obsessed with one-pager I asked Dylan if I could buy into it, become a partner and so now I am. So, yes, I do have ulterior motives to tell you about it. But the reality is these are the only two products that I use every single day, every single day in my business. That's it. Like, there's other ones I use every once in a while, I log into my odd responders, I log into my analytics. But the two things I use every single day are ClickFunnels and one-pager. And that's pretty cool. How cool is it to create products that you use every single day? Not just like, "Oh, this is a good idea. You can use it once." Like, every single day. Every day I'm in one-pager and now I'm going through everything I've ever taught. All my books, all my speeches at Funnel Hacking Live, all my projects that got partially done but not finished, I'm turning them all into one-pagers. One-pager after one-pager, I'm building lead bags, I'm building order form bumps, I'm building courses, I'm building everything with this amazing new tool called one-pagers. So, anyway, if you're not staying on one-pager right now, you don't have a poll. You should pull over the car, pause the thing, go to onepager.io. And what's cool about it is you create a one-pager and you can give it to somebody, right? So I give it to you and you can go take it and you plug it into a one-pager account and you give a free one page account. Because it stores all the one-pages people are giving you, right? So you can have all the content, the curriculum, the things you're learning, and they're all stored in your one-pager account, which is cool. And then had Dylan set up so the very first one-pager, you get one for free. So you got one, you can give away for free. You can make a lead magnet, doesn't cost you anything. Then obviously upgrade, you can create unlimited and it's insanely cheap, the software. We're going to be raising the price soon. But right now it's really, really cheap. And then you can start creating these things. And Dylan is in full out creation mode. He's adding all sorts of new things to it. He's adding new elements, just new stuff. That's amazing inside of it. He's working on membership modules and things like that, where you could have password protected one-pagers and you have all... Anyway, once they get unlocked, when somebody buys from you. And the future is really, really cool, but literally the product's been live to the world for 45 days now and I've used it every one of those days. And so, anyway, it's not that often I get excited about a tool. In fact, I have not been... I told Dylan this, before we became partners and before I bought into the company I said, "This is the most excited I have been to buy software, it's ClickFunnels. That's it." And he got pumped and I got pumped and now it's part of my daily routine. I'm in one-pager every single day. So if you're a creator, if you're a designer, if you're thinking about things, if you're trying to create products, if you're trying to create lead magnets, you're trying to create order for bumps or courses or whatever, you should go start using one-pager. If you're a speaker, if you're a presenter, if you're... Whatever you are, one-pager is amazing. It's one of the fastest ways I know to create a product, fastest way to get an idea out of your head, fastest way to get a tangible thing. So, anyway, you should all go to onepager.io and just go get a free account and just played with it, it's seriously that cool. Anyway, so I'm pumped. Like I said, it's not very often that I use a product every single day. And the only two products I use every single day right now are ClickFunnels and onepager.io. So, there you go. And also, just to add to that, there's one other product that we're working on right now, that I can't tell you what it is yet, but it is amazing. I do think it will be the third product I use every single day. So, we're probably three months out, frankly didn't talk about that one, but it's cool too. So I'm sharing this for a lot of reasons. Number one, I want you guys to go sign for onepager.io. Number two, I want you to think about what is it you could create for your marketplace you would actually, legitimately use every single day. Because if you're going to use it every single day, there's a good chance that your market will as well. And so it's just kind of a test. In fact, I can tell you in the past, I created software in the past that I sold, but I never really used it myself. Like, "Oh yeah, it does this one little thing." But it wasn't something that became a staple in my life. Do you create something that literally you can't live without, where you're using it daily? Man, how powerful is that? Then your customers start using it, they're using it daily. It just changes everything. So anyway, hope you guys check it out, onepager.io. Have some fun with it, play with it. And like I said, I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

OnPurpose Growth with Adil Amarsi

The Business Lounge Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2021 64:59

On this episode of the onPurpose Growth Podcast one of the most highly skilled masters of the written word, Adil Amarsi. Adil Amarsi is a copywriter who has generated over $700M in sales from his writing skills. That is only the number he has tracked and it's assessed that the actual number is at or above $1B based on the consultations he does. For example, one person told him that they made $100k in 3 weeks from a 15 minute consultation Adil did. We cover how Adil writes copy as well as how his own personal growth has allowed him to connect with his potential buyers in the deepest way possible. We have a lot of fun during this episode and hope you do too when you watch or listen. Welcome to the Business Lounge! We are a shared office space, a podcast channel, and a way to enhance your business and expand your network. On our first episode back, we talk about what the Business Lounge is and what we have coming up in our relaunch. Stay tuned for weekly episodes! The Business Lounge will be bringing you business advice and conversations from real entrepreneurs on real experiences that we have throughout our businesses. Each week, we welcome a guest from a variety of industries to join us in our conversations about the business world. Let us know what you want to see next! To get in touch with our host and for more information on how to join the Business Lounge and be a guest, visit https://www.oflaherty-law.com/business-lounge-tv/on-purpose-growth Adil Amarsi has been writing sales copy professionally since he turned 18 in late 2007. During that time he has broken countless records and developed an infamous reputation for the effectiveness of his copy. Having started writing copy from age 12, Adil has been able to see how industries and markets have evolved and since then, he's gone on to use his talents to help his clients generate over $700 Million in sales from his work (and that's what he can track). Adil's passion for breaking down strategies and copy - and verbalizing it at lightning speed - has earned him a huge amount of respect from legendary copywriters such as Jay Abraham, Jon Benson, Roy Furr, Bob Stirling, Mark Joyner, Trevor "ToeCracker" Crook, and many more. Get in touch with our guest: Website: https://www.adilamarsi.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/adiltheawesome https://www.facebook.com/adilamarsi Instagram: https://Instagram.com/adilamarsi YouTube: https://youtube.com/adilamarsiofficial LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adilamarsi/ Follow us on our social accounts to stay connected with all things Business Lounge! - Website: https://www.oflaherty-law.com/business-lounge-network - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BusinessLoungeNetwork/ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/seizeyourbusiness-com *None of the content in The Business Lounge series is intended as paid legal advice.

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Russ Morgan & Joey Mure - The Formula For Financial Freedom

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Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2020 73:17

We have an awesome show today with Russ Morgan & Joey Mure of Wealth Without Wall Street. Listen in as they break down their four-step process for financial freedom and each one could be an episode in itself. They talk about getting clarity over your finances, using assessments, how much you should be spending on a monthly basis, then when you reach that goal, reinvesting it in your business. Once you make the money that funds your ideal lifestyle, you can figure out more beneficial ways to use those finances. We also talk about the importance of improving your financial literacy which is super important and about picking your passive income paths, building your opportunity fund, and detailing the lifestyle you want. Russ and Joey also blend their community, podcast, and content which works great and is something we are headed towards ourselves. Stay tuned! If you enjoyed this show and want to learn more about how to make your dollar go further while getting into the correct money mindset, be sure to check out our shows with James Altucher and Mark Joyner. “When we get clarity about what we want, then we can move in the right direction. Here’s the thing about entrepreneurs - we are great at making money, but we’re also great at making more jobs for ourselves.” - Russ Morgan “What most people do, is they come to us and ask what should they invest in...it doesn’t matter, because what you invest in should line up only with what you want money to do and what you want your life to look like.” - Joey Mure Some Topics We Discussed Include: That time when we thought about going into the cattle businesses Why typical financial advisors are not the best for entrepreneurs How to get clarity on your future investments The importance of cherishing what you’ve created and how to plan for your loved ones future so that is continues Figuring out your passive income scorecard so you know which debts to focus on paying down first Getting control of your cash flow and why the standard advice is not always the best The downfall of having a 15-year mortgage Why a podcast works for expanding your reach from having local clients to ones all across the globe Resources From Russ Morgan & Joey Mure: WealthWithoutWallStreet.com/Hustle - A free course for our listeners - Financial Freedom 101 Wealth Without Wall Street podcast References and Links Mentioned: HustleAndFlowchart.com/Podlaunch - check this out if you’re looking for something to start from scratch Mighty Networks Becoming Your Own Banker by R. Nelson Nash Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! Did you know we have an awesome YouTube Channel? Join the Facebook Community - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs! This episode is sponsored by our go-to SEO research tool, Ahrefs.com, and by Easy Webinar - be sure to check out these special deals for our listeners. Where To Focus For Exponential Wealth Growth - Mark Joyner Reverse Engineering How Much Income You Actually Need - James Altucher

Taylor Welch - How Inexpensive Products Drive High-Ticket Sales

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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2020 69:51

Taylor Welch runs Traffic & Funnels with his business partner Chris Evans, and we cover a whole host of wide-ranging topics on the show today. Some of the things we dive into are their whole philosophy behind product creation, and why they create some of the products they create, which gave us a ton of perspective shifts around that topic. We also talk about delegation and how to hire the right people in your business in order to scale as well as their philosophy of having a portfolio of companies and what they do to serve each other. In addition, we had a lot of a-ha moments regarding their ideas regarding their entry-level products and how those work towards negating future objections to the higher-priced products, as well as how to acquire businesses not to necessarily make money but to save money. After you’ve listened, be sure to check out the past shows we’ve done with Mark Joyner and Ryan Moran to give you some additional input on creating a successful business while serving your customers for a win-win relationship. “I’m not trying to elicit more desire, I’m trying to mitigate the perceived risk they have in this product, which actually turned out to be a pretty winning style of writing copy.” - Taylor Welch Some Topics We Discussed Include: How to deal with all the objections before people buy and turn them into customers The magic of shifting your thinking by osmosis How to change your questions around tackling problems to create a bigger, successful outcome Who makes the best team leaders for an online business and why (it’s not who you think) And much, much more! Resources From Taylor Welch: Daily Mind Medicine Wealth Cap Holdings The Sales Mentor Podcast Traffic and Funnels References and Links Mentioned: Sales Reflex Training The Entrepreneur’s Guide to Getting Your Shit Together by John Carlton Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! Did you know we have an awesome YouTube Channel? Join the Facebook Community - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs! This episode is sponsored by our go-to SEO research tool, Ahrefs.com, and by Easy Webinar - be sure to check out these special deals for our listeners. Twelve Months To Seven-Figures - Ryan Moran Where To Focus For Exponential Wealth Growth - Mark Joyner

Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 4 of 4

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2020 27:04

How do you handle the haters? When you’re the face and voice of your company there’s going to come a time when someone’s going to talk trash about you. But when you put yourself out there, whether it’s on video, a podcast, a blog, a webinar, social media, there’s going to come a time when it happens to you. I came to a place where I started to think differently about the bashing and untruths. Want to know how to deal with the “haters?” Want to know how to turn the dirt into a castle? Then don’t miss the 4th and FINAL part of my interview with my first mentor Mark Joyner. ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. And welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, hear a story. This is part four of four of the interview from the Mark Joyner show. And I hope you've enjoyed the series so far. I had so much fun sharing this interview with Mark, and I hope that you get a ton of value and benefit out of it as well. With that said, I'm going to ... No further ado, we'll cue up the theme song when we come back. You have a chance to listen to the exciting conclusion of my interview on the Mark Joyner show. And now it's funny for me because then I feel like now are the team has been doing good, now the next phase is this crossing the chasm. So I've been having my core team, I'll read this right now, we're all geeking out on it because it's fascinating as you start learning. And I pulled that. If you just Google crossing the chasm graph, you'll see a graph of the five phase, the innovators, the early adopters, and there's this big chasm. And on the other side is the early majority. And that's the majority of business, that's where you go from 100 millions to billions is getting the early majority. But there's a chasm because you have to shift everything. It's hard for me because it's the art that we use to get the innovators and early adopters repels the people on the other side of the chasm. It's like the funnels don't work over there, the messaging doesn't work over there, how we structure. And it's like, "Oh, do we really want to do that thing?" But it's like, "Yeah, that's the next phase. Otherwise we're just going to hang out where we're at forever. Right?" And we always say good is the enemy to great. Right? We're doing good. Oh yeah. There's perfect example of the graph right there. Yes. Yeah. He uses the big scary chasm, yes. And so for us, that's the next stage. The early majority, if you look at my business, right? The innovators were the people, the internet marketers who understood funnels. They were the first group. Next were the early adopters. These, for me, are the influencers, the creators, the experts. Those are the next phase where they're the people that are already, they're creating stuff and we're saying, "Here's how to get your creative message out." And so they've been really easy to become early adopters. But the early majority are the business owners. It's the chiropractors, the dentists, the LASIK surgeon. That's where the majority of existing businesses need funnels. How do we make this mainstream? How do we get to that next tier? And there's some that's bled into that, but for us to make that strategic move, it's hard because the dentist doesn't build their own funnels. Right? The person on the book or does the course, whatever's, typically ... They're the CEO and the marketer. And it's like they're loving this stuff because they'll spend the time to learn the strategy, do the thing. Over here, their dentist wants more dental clients, right? Or they're the restaurant who want ... They're not marketers, they're not going to learn marketing. They just want the tool. It's like we have to restructure so much of how the software alone needs to be rebuilt differently to be able to handle that next phase. The marketing, it's literally like it's a big rebuild. So there's fear, there's excitement, there's kind of that thing. And we're testing a lot of things on a small scale to kind of figure out pieces of it. But that's the next phase for us. Mark Joyner: That's beautiful. Dude, that was a fantastic example or a fantastic answer. I don't think you could give a more concise, better answer to that because you don't know. You don't know. It is a big, scary chasm and you guys are about to cross it, but you have some clues though. You know what I mean? Looking at just going back to good old fashioned Eugene Schwartz and looking at the tools that he gave us for changing the messaging. I think that a lot of your answers are going to be found there. Listen, do you have a couple minutes for a few questions? We got tons of them, but I know we've been going a little while. Russell: Yeah, sure. Mark: All right. So a lady here named rise of truth, she says, "Dan Gable coached at my alma mater. Have you ever listened to him talk about the letter to his mother wrote to him while he was attending college? Pretty awesome." Russell: I have not, but now I'm going to look that up. That's fascinating. Yeah. Far as I know, Dan Gable's like the Michael Jordan of wrestling. He is a legend. And I took a snapshot because I'm going to go look up the letter now. That's actually really cool. Mark: Yeah. I'm kind of curious about that too. What's funny, it reminds me of how when Edison was a very young man, his school wrote his mother a letter saying, "Hey, your son is basically not teachable. He's not smart enough to be in school." But then she said, "Oh, I got a letter from school. And what I read to them was that you're too smart to be in school so you have to be homeschooled." And then later on in life, after he had achieved all of this, he saw that original letter. And it just ripped him to shreds because he realized how much his mom sacrificed and how much of her belief in him changed his own perception of himself. And that's such a profound lesson, man, because if we could all just change our belief in ourselves a little bit, we're all capable of so much more than we're taught to believe. And while we're opiating ourselves with all this crap on TV and we're all involved in all of our different distractions, these things are also subtly weakening us and programing us with the message that, "Hey, there's this wonderful life that other people are watching or are living on the other side of the screen, but that's not for you. You're meant to be in this little box where you're the observer of everything on the screen while you stuff your face with Haagen Dazs and take more fentanyl. I mean, that's literally what's happening to a lot of society right now. And I think what we've got to do to to kind of turn society around before it destroys itself is to get people to understand that we're all capable of so much more than we've been taught that we're capable of. And the more people we can reach with that message, I think the better hope humanity has. Kenneth Kern Sanu had a really interesting question. He was talking about basically, I'm not going to phrase it the way he did. He phrased it in kind of a slightly rude way. No offense, Kenneth. But I don't know what you meant by the way you phrased it. But the question you asked at the end was very important. But he's talking about how you're getting out there all the time. You don't see this on the queue here. This was from another thread I started where a couple days ago, I asked people to just say, "Hey, tell me what your questions are for Russell." And basically his question was with you being out there so much and being so visible now, how do you deal with online haters? Russell: Oh, man. Man, when I first got started, back about the time I met you initially, that's the first time I started getting hate. So it's been, man, whatever, 15, 16 years ago when that first started. And it was really hard back then, man, I would see something and it'd put me out for three or four days while I sat there just depressed or upset or whatever. And it was really, really hard. And I remember a couple things that helped me. One thing I remember Dan Kennedy said, if you haven't offended someone by noon each day, you're not marketing hard enough. And that was a weird release to me. I'm like, "Oh." I don't know if I really believed that, but it gave me a little permission. And the more I've seen the hate, the more I realize it's people that aren't happy with themselves. I try not to look at it because it does, if I read something, it'll mess me up for awhile. But for the most part, when people, especially on ads, I mean, you get beat up in the ads, the more you're visible, the more that stuff happens. The hard thing for me is when there's people that you've helped or you love or you respect or whatever. And that doesn't happen often, but those are the ones that are more brutal. You know what I mean? You're just like, "Oh." I've had a couple people that I've spent a lot of time developing and helping find success, and then they seem like sometimes they're the ones that come back the hardest. And you're just like, "Seriously?" Mark: Yeah. Especially when you help them for free. Right? You know? Russell: Yeah. Those ones hurt the most. For the most part, people that are just posting stuff, I think it's funny at this point. It doesn't bother me at all. But I know my wife just started her first podcast, which is so far out of her comfort zone. She's very keeps to herself. And so she's getting to have people commenting and things are happening and it's the first time. And I'm remembering, I'm like, "I forget how hard that can be." In fact, it's interesting. Oh yeah, we talked earlier. I have a podcast, the Book of Mormon podcast. And it's funny because I tell people all the time, "Go and publish, go and publish." But I started publishing that and I had all sorts of things. I still do. I don't publish that near as much as I want to because I get the fear again because it's like ... I don't know, on the marketing side, I can take it, go for it. Take your best shot. But on other things that you're not as comfortable talking about or things you really hold sacred or dear or whatever, it's a little harder. But when all is said and done, I think that God's created these platforms for us to share and if we're not willing to share, then he'll give the ability, the gifts, the ideas, whatever, to other people. And so I think it's just we've all been entrusted with a lot so it's just like be willing to share it even if you get beat up a little bit along the way. So anyway. Mark: That's right. Well, yeah. Oh, dude. Well you know I have many, many stories along those lines I should share. That's something I've had to learn the hard way. But you have to give up and you have to trust a little bit. I mean, having so many things, I took it very personally along the way when a lot of people that I helped even straight ripped stuff off or even turned around and did nasty moves behind my back and stuff like that. And then I was kind of like, "You know what?" Well, here's the thing. I can look at this through another lens. I can say for whatever reason, I've been gifted with the ability to get these ideas and to be a conduit for these ideas. And I'm grateful that that conduit is still open. And I think that if I keep that channel open and keep giving it, it's going to keep coming. And what I need to focus on is the infinite abundance of that source of that inspiration rather than like, "Oh man, if I had patented the tracking pixel ..." I mean, these people come up to me, they're like, "Mark, how come you didn't patent eBooks or the tracking pixel? Doesn't that make you so mad?" And I'm like, "Not really. Because think about it, right? Let's say I patented the tracking pixel, right? They would have probably came up with some other very similar technology, called it something else, now everybody's still, even though it's a JS file, they still call them tracking pixels. And I get to be known forevermore as the inventor of the tracking pixel. Right?" So, I mean, maybe it wouldn't have worked out the same way had I patented it. Right? Maybe it would have gone a totally different way. Maybe it was actually the best possible way for things to turn out for me. You know? So I'm learning how to change my orientation about that, but I want to ask you something about this. Do you ever give online haters a little sass? Because I've experimented with this a bit over the last couple years. I got to say, normally, for awhile, I was just like, "All right, just be kind to everybody." But then I was like, "You know what, man? Some of these people need a little bit of a slap back every now and then." And I started getting a little bit more sassy over the last couple years. And how about you? Have you experimented with that? Russell: It's funny because I would say since ClickFunnels' come out, there's been probably three or four times where I just ... You just snap and your thumbs are flying on your phone. You're like, "Ah," and you post it. And I can honestly say every time I've done that, I've regretted it. And it's now, I look at this, with ClickFunnels as well, it's not just me. Everything I say is an extension of my partner, Todd, and my other partners and my employer. So especially there was this one dude, I'm not going to say his name, but somebody who I had a lot of respect for. We've never had any ... It's just weird. We'd never really communicated and I thought we were ... I mean, we communicated a little bit. I assumed we were friends. We're peers. And he starts going off on his own personal wall about aggressively tearing me down. So confusing. And anyway, so I said some things I probably shouldn't have. So it's tough. Especially the wrestler me. Because man, if you say it to my face, we are going. Please come at me. Mark: Yeah, right. Russell: It's not posted publicly for everyone to see the fight, but we can have that fight right here, anytime. Mark: You’d rip their limbs off their torso. Russell: I know. Yeah, it's frustrating. But when all said and done, it's just, it's hard. Mark: I'll tell you the distinction I have on this. Right? So if I reply out of anger, I always regret it. But sometimes, if I come back with just a really like an IDGAF attitude zinger that just puts them in their place, that one, I'm like, "Nah, I don't regret that because you totally had it coming and they shut up." Right? And it teaches them like, "Okay. Man, if- Russell: You get to punch back. Mark: Yeah. I mean, whatever people think, I know I'm going to say something very divisive here and I'm not going to get into politics or anything, but whatever people think about Trump, whether they hate him or love him, and it seems to be a completely divisive thing, nobody's in the middle. I think I'm the only guy on the planet who's like, "I don't really have an opinion." I can look at him through a million different lenses. You know what I mean? There's so many ways to look at what he does. Right? But one thing that you have to recognize about the guy is that when somebody punches him, he punches back hard. Right? And fast. Yeah. And it makes people hesitate. They're like, "I don't know if I can tangle with this dude." Right? So it's an interesting thing to observe. I don't know if there's any one right way. All right. We've been going awhile. I'm going to… go ahead. Russell: I love your Facebook comments because you always post these questions that you can tell you're stirring the pot a little bit like let's just see what both sides are going to say to this question. Mark: Yeah. Russell: I always read them, but never comment because I don't know if I have strong enough opinion one way or the other to defend anything, but I love reading. Mark: Same, same. And by the way, I'll just say, people misunderstand. They think I'm doing this for engagement bait. And it's like, "Dude, if I was trying to gain Facebook for marketing, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing on Facebook." I mean, I see what I do as more or less of a public service. I feel like what I'm doing out there is kind of like trying to teach people like, "Man, stop being so rigid about your view of reality because you don't know, man. You don't know." And I'm trying to get people to be okay with disagreeing with other people. And I mean, that's been sort of like my whole mission on social media is to create an environment where people can be like, "Hey, let's see if we can actually look at things dispassionately and look at them through somebody else's eyes and maybe say to ourselves, 'You know what? I see this completely differently from that other guy, but I don't have to hate this dude. He sees it differently from me. We can still get along.'" This has been a quixotic battle for me. I don't think I've succeeded in this mission. I don't know how much longer it's going to last. I think I'm probably going to change up my approach on it. Hey listen, let me end on one last question. I don't know if this is one you're going to want to ask, but it's from a mutual friend of ours. You remember Brad Callen? Yeah? Russell: I love Brad. Yeah. Mark: I love Brad too, man. He is a great dude. And he asks a question that I don't know if you're going to want to answer because it's a very personal questions about numbers. Russell: Okay. Mark: Okay? All right. So he says, "Posted this earlier and also mentioned directly to him, but having him give you some tangible numbers on ClickFunnels. Things like total number of free trial users. And by the way, I don't think I would answer this question if I were Russell." Okay. If somebody were to ask me this about Simpleology, I don't think I would answer. I don't think I would answer. And guys, if Russell refuses to answer, do not fault him because he is under no obligation to answer this question to anybody. And I'm kind of- Russell: Especially Brad. Just kidding. Mark: Yeah, especially Brad. No, we love Brad. Brad is an awesome dude. All right. "So things like total number of trial users they get per day. What percentage of those stick and are billed at least once? What the average member link there is, what the churn rate is, what the refund rate is. That would really help those of us building software businesses to know what numbers we need to hit monthly to reach Clickfunnels' level revenues and valuation. Assuming Russell wouldn't know exact numbers off the top of his head, but maybe some broad guesses. The more actual data of any sort of numbers metrics he can give would be great for those that have been at this for awhile and also help broaden the mindset and goal setting on what's possible." And then he said, "PS, anything not covered in his books would also be ideal." I'll answer the PS. Wait for the two sequels coming out here pretty soon. Russell: I mean, I don't know the numbers off the top of my head. I'm not a big data guy. I'm more the creative side. So some of my partners can answer a lot of it better than me. But I'll share some stuff I think will be helpful and motivating for people. Because I remember when we launched ClickFunnels, the event I told you at the very beginning where I did the first presentation, I was like, "Oh my gosh, we got the message right." It was kind of a funny event because you could buy a booth. And it was a hallway half the size of the room I'm in right now. And there were only four people that bought booths. ClickFunnels had our very first booth ever. And then Leadpages had a booth, and two other people. And this side of the hall was Leadpages, and this side was ClickFunnels. We were almost touching. And that was our big competitor when we first got started. And I remember I was just like ... It was really funny because our banner ad said, "Can your landing page software do this?" And it had a picture of a funnel. And then right there, it was like, "Landing page software." Anyway, it was really funny. But at that event, I remember Clay Collins, who I don't know if he still owns Leadpages or not, but at the time, he owned it. I think he still ... Anyway, but he told Mike Filsaime, I think, I don't remember the exact numbers, but I think he said something like there's 200 or maybe 300 signups a day that were happening. And I remember he told me that and I was like, "There's no way that's possible." And I sat home thinking forever, I'm like, "How do you get 200 to 300 signups a day consistently every single day?" And I just, that number drove me crazy. But then it became my KPI. Like, "Okay, how many do we get a day? I need to know." And it was three and then it was five. But because anything you track, it starts to grow. And so we kept looking at it, looking at it. And so for me, that became the number to look at because I couldn't figure out how he was doing it. And so I can give you some, again, basically right now we get about 1500 people a day that go to clickfunnels.com and start the trial, which is step one, which basically pick a name and a username. And then from that, step two is where they put in a credit card. And about half of those will put in a credit card. So we're getting, I don't know, 700, 800 paid, or not paid, but credit card trials a day that are coming into the platform. Some days are higher. Some days we get 1000. Some days it's 500 or 600. But pretty consistently, it's around 1500 free leads a day and then you get a little more than half actually finish credit card. And that's about all the numbers I really know off the top of my head. I know that it's interesting. At this point in the game, those people come whether we're buying a lot of ads or not. The game now on our side is the churn stuff. Because every percentage of churn, we drop churn right now by 1%, that’s an extra $20 million a year revenue to the bottom line by 1%. And so that's the game right now. It's like, how do we simplify the software? How we change the lead flow? How do we pre-frame it better? There's so many things that it's a fun game. And that number is always fluctuating. And we're always chopping it down by a fourth of a point, half a ... And so I don't know what it is right now off the top of my head. But I do know that's the number. That matters more right now than new leads because, like I said, a half percent, 1%, it changes, it's a big deal. Mark: And by the way, so to wrap this up, I just want to tell Brad, the answer Russell just gave you is actually better than specific numbers that he could have given you. Why? Because he's teaching you the secret formula for what to look at, right? It doesn't matter how your numbers stack up to some other company. What matters is the improvements that you make to your numbers right now. That's the only thing that really, really matters. And sometimes competition is a good way to motivate yourself, but it's not the best way to improve yourself. Because if you're looking at the other guy, you're not watching your own lane, right? You need to be watching your own lane. You need to be improving your game. Yeah, check out the other guy's numbers from time to time to kind of see how you're doing, but really 99% of your focus needs to be on how do I improve me? How do I improve what's going on inside my company? And usually, by the way, how to improve what's going on inside in your company comes down to improving what's going on inside you. All right. Listen, Russell, I know I've been keeping you up late and I know you got kids to take care of and you got a company to go back to tomorrow and it's getting late and we are way past your bedtime here. I want to encourage everyone, go to simpleology.com/clickfunnelsfree. At the very least, check out the free trial Funnel that they have there because Russell has honed that through thousands upon thousands of split tests now. And you guys will see their marketing structure, how they're doing that, how they're retargeting it, how they get you guys back on email, all of that. And also, the software itself is absolutely amazing. And I want to encourage everybody as well, if you enjoyed this tonight, if you appreciate the fact that Russell here spent almost two hours now giving us some pretty amazing inside information on a business that is actually right about to cross that chasm and start to reach that billion dollar mark, and I can almost guarantee you guys they're going to make it, knowing Russell and knowing how they're doing, if you appreciate what he has delivered tonight, I want you guys to share this far and wide with as many people as possible. If you think this has helped you, let's get this message out to more people. And any comments you guys can put underneath all of this to say thank you to Russell as well, I'm sure he would be very, very appreciative to get that. No matter how well we do, we always want to be appreciated for our contributions. And Russell, I appreciate you very, very much, man. Man, I'm so proud of what you've done. And you have become an inspiration for me. You make me want to be a better person and you have set a higher bar. And at 51 years of age now, I feel invigorated watching you being so successful. And I'm now inspired to take my company to a higher level as well because of what I see you doing. So thank you for that, man. Russell: Thank you. And thanks for having me on. I had a really good time. I haven't had a chance to do something like this for a long time. I mean, we're always in the thick of it. And with this late night, it would work for me. And I appreciate you letting me do that. But I was going to kind of wrap with just saying it's interesting, in your life, your life's a timeline from you're born and then over here, you die. And there's different people that, as you're on this journey, that shift your direction a little bit. And a little shift in direction can be a huge different outcome in different spots. And I'm just honestly so grateful for you, man. I started this journey 17, 18 years ago and I was floundering, trying to figure things out. You were the guy who literally grabbed me and shifted my direction and completely transformed the projectory and the future of my life. And anyway, I'll always be grateful for you for that. And anyway, so just wanted to let you know that. And just grateful that you put in as much time as you have. I think, again, I always talk about it with my own tribe, but I feel like business is a calling from God and that we're being called to serve a group of customers. And if we do it right, we change their lives. And you definitely changed my life. And so thank you for hearing the call and putting forth the effort and the time. And I know from experience it's not easy, it's not painful. It's way easier to go sedate and go watch TV and do whatever. And through those times I'm sure were hard for you at the beginning of the internet, before Facebook, you were out there killing yourself and learning this stuff and trailblazing for people like me so that we could get on your shoulders and learn from you and set our own path. So always be super grateful eternally for you. So thanks for all you've done for my life. Mark: Thank you, man. I'm humbled. All right. Everybody, you guys have a beautiful night. I enjoyed this immensely. And Russell, I will see you actually very soon. Russell: You’re coming to Boise! Mark: That's going to be awesome. That's going to be awesome. Russell: I'm so excited. I appreciate you coming. Mark: See you in Boise, brother. Russell: See you, everybody.

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Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 3 of 4

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2020 26:50

How to break through ROADBLOCKS and get to the next level? You hit those exciting milestones in your business… Whether it’s $1,000…$5,000…$10,000…$100,000, or even hitting your first $1,000,000 in revenue with your funnel (Two Comma Club)! But for whatever reason, no matter what you do, you just can’t seem to get past that first milestone. You get stuck. Something’s standing in your way and you just can’t figure it out. So how do you drive past that roadblock? How do you get to that next level in your business?This is critical because EVERY entrepreneur, every business, and every Funnel Hacker WILL hit this wall at several different stages as you grow and scale. In Part 3 of this 4-part interview with my mentor Mark Joyner, I share exactly what to do to break the glass ceiling in YOUR business. ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today you are ready and prepared, I hope, for part three of a four part series, where I had a chance to do an interview with my very first mentor, Mark Joyner. And what's cool about this is, in the past, I've had a chance to interview Mark a lot of times, but it was the first time that he ever interviewed me, which was kind of... Anyway, it was a huge honor to have your mentor asking you questions about stuff. And so, like I said, in the first episode, Mark was my very first mentor online. Someone who I, man, have so much respect for, and so grateful for him and his contribution that helped me to figure this game out. And I hope you guys enjoy part three of our four part series with my very first ever mentor, Mark Joyner. Mark Joyner: Okay, third thing, third thing. Russell: Third thing, all right. So, I think the reason why a lot of people, as they're trying to grow their company, they hit these ceilings. I struggled this. I got stuck between one and three million dollars a year for like a decade. I couldn't break that ceiling no matter how hard I did. And what I realized is, as we launched ClickFunnels, the first phase of the business was like, there's the hyperactive, the first set of customers, which were the easy ones, right? They get it, they're the early adopters, they figure stuff out. And those are the customers that are already there. They're just waiting for you to go and grab them. And I think most companies, that's as far as they ever get. In fact, I've been geeking out on the book, Crossing the Chasm right now. And there's the five different things. And the innovators are the first ones. And I think that's where most people's businesses get to the innovators. And that's where they stop, right? Mark: Right. Russell: Then the second phase is the early adopters. But these people aren't... The second phase, you have to learn how to create a customer. Again, when we first launched ClickFunnels, the internet marketers who knew what funnels were like, "sweet, I'm in." And they came in and they got ClickFunnels, the early adopters, right? But then, after that was done, we ran out... It was like being in a Ferrari on a dead end road. We ran out of road, and all of a sudden we're like, "Hey, we got all the internet marketers. Oh, crap, now what?" And it was like, okay, now we have to create customers. We have to change our messaging, create our front end price. They do things so that when someone comes, they don't come with the desire ahead of time, but they listen to the message, and all of a sudden it's like, "Oh, I need a funnel." If you look at, even strategically, the Dotcom Secrets book was to get the early adopters. People who understood funnels were. Here's my strategy of funnels. We got them in. And then Expert Secrets was like, "Hey, do you have talent? Do you have ideas or advice or things you can make money with? That you could share your advice." And people were like, "Oh yeah, I do." It's like, "Cool. Well, you need a funnel to be able to get that message out to the marketplace." And so we created customers from people, and that's kind of the second phase. And I don't think most people ever get to that where they're in the phase of creating customers. They're getting the low hanging fruit, the early adopters. And then that's the business. And they hit the ceiling and they never get past it. And it's realizing, the next phase is like, "Okay, how do I create customers? How do I create the desire so that they will come from where they are and come to the next phase." And I feel like, just from my standpoint, we just finished... We're kind of at the end of the early adopter phase. And we're now making the leap to the early majority, which for me, this is my big challenge, is crossing the chasm. We can talk about it later if we want it. But, that's the next phase that I'm in. And most people never... It's taken us six years to get the point where we're done with that phase and moving to across the chasm, which is scary and exciting. Mark: Well, that's kind of what I want to end on, actually. Russell: Oh cool. Mark: I want to interject really quick here. This is a very interesting Eugene Schwartz lesson that I think is quite apropos to what you're talking about. And you remember the audience awareness scale, right? Russell: Yes. Mark: So he's got two things in there. The audience sophistication scale and the audience awareness level. And the audience awareness level goes all the way from problem unaware. So, actually I should put yeah… So problem unaware. So imagine you got a guy who is living in the Aboriginal Bush and he doesn't even know that there is such a thing as phones. And you're like, "Hey, here's an iPhone." Well, he's not even aware that he has the problem, that he doesn't have a phone. And then you got guys who are problem aware, and then you got solution aware. And then it goes all the way up to most aware, which is like a guy who's like, "Hey, all you have to do is tell me that there's the new iPhone coming out." Russell: I'm in. Mark: And right, "I'm camping out. I'm going to be in front of the iPhone store for two weeks. So I can be first." So as Russell was changing, he was dealing with guys who were sort of solution aware, and sometimes even problem aware. But as he was expanding his marketplace, he had to kind of reach out to these other areas. But what you have to also understand is that, as you go across this whole spectrum, this area is almost always where the biggest money is, but it's the hardest market to talk to, because the messaging is so much more difficult. Russell: Language changed. Mark: Yeah. Russell: Each step in that... Because people are like, "Well, how do you shift it?" And like, "It's the words, it's the language." I remember Dean Graziosi called me one day. He's like, "This is the weirdest thing." He's like, "I'm at my wife's hairdresser, and the hairdresser was talking about this thing called ClickFunnels." And he calls me. He's like, "You've done something no one else has ever done, because my hairdresser's talking about your company right now." But it's like, if I walked in a hairdresser, "You want a funnel?" They're like, "For my hair? How does that work?" It's like, "No." We had to speak differently to those audiences. And as we go further out to different audiences, we change our language patterns because we have to speak to them in a way that they understand. And then we bridge the gap. Then we take them through a bridge that helps them understand like, "Oh, that means funnel. And this is why you need that thing." And that's part of the game. Mark: That's right. Russell: So much fun. Mark: Because they're not even going to know what a funnel is. Yeah, exactly, exactly. By the way, another really interesting book people could read. So sort of like a spiritual sequel to Breakthrough Advertising, was one written by some of the guys at high level in Agora, called Great Leads. And they talk about, yeah, it's actually a fantastic book and it shows you six different ways to talk about those different audience... To talk to those different audience awareness levels. Very, very good read for people. Okay, now, so this one is... So, I know I want to get into your thing that you talk about, about crossing the chasm. And I think that's a nice one to end on here. And actually, because I wrote it as your plan to reach the billion dollar level. And I think that's kind of the same question really. So, but before we get to that, I want to ask you what your three biggest personal lessons were in this journey, in this entrepreneurial journey. And you can even talk about some of your sports stuff too, because I know some of that applies. So what would you say those are? Russell: Man, I would say to begin with, is like, entrepreneurship... Building a business is the best personal development seminar you'll ever go to. All of your problems get shoved into your face and it gets bigger and bigger. It's like, "Ah." Mark: And you deal with it or you go broke. Russell: Oh, yeah, it's tough. But what's cool about business too, it's kind of like... I have a lot of friends who are having their first baby right now. And I remember our first babies came, and we've got five kids now, but when the first come you're so scared, you're like, "What am I going to do when the baby shows up?" You're freaking out. All of a sudden the baby comes out, and it sits there and it sleeps for 18 hours a day. You're like, "Oh, it's just sitting there." Like, "Okay, this isn't that bad." And then it starts growing and growing. And what's interesting is that your capacity to handle the baby grows as the baby grows. And so right now I've got my twins are 14 years old. And it's like, man, they stress us out. Teenagers are so much harder. Mark: Yeah. Russell: But it's like, if they would've came out at 14 year olds, it would've crushed us, we'd have been destroyed, because we weren't prepared. But our capacity to handle the problems grew as the kids grew. And I think, I look at like the stuff I deal with on a daily basis right now, six years ago, would have destroyed me. I'm so grateful that I had six years to grow in capacity to handle the stuff. It's ridiculous. But that's why business is so much fun too and it's exciting. So, what was the question again? Mark: Personal... The three biggest personal lessons that you've learned along the way. And again, this can be from your sports career, from your parenting and from your entrepreneurial journey, because I think they're all related. As you said, business is the best personal development seminar you could possibly attend. These things are not unrelated. They are all... It's all one life. And the things that I learned in the military, definitely applied to my life in business. And I'm sure things that you learned in the sporting world and in parenting, have also applied to business as well. So, it sounds like the first one is, is that you had to learn how to grow along with the challenges, because the challenges are not going to get easier. They're actually, by definition in life, going to get more difficult. And I think, let's just be really frank and blunt with everybody listening. Look, we all age people, we all age. That means that baked in to the formula for life itself is increasing difficulty, no matter what. And if you think you're going to insulate yourself in some bubble. Everybody has this, they get an entrepreneurial-ism and say, "Well, what's going to happen is, is I'm going to make a whole bunch of money, then I'm going to sit on a beach, sipping umbrella drinks, and all my problems are going to go away." Well, guess what's going to happen? You do that, and I tried there, here's what happened, I got fat, sick, and I became this horrible, disgusting person, that I was not proud of. And I was going to die if I carried on with that path. This is the way the universe is designed, guys, it's designed to continue to get more difficult and to challenge you more. Would you agree with that? Russell: A hundred percent. Unless... And some people nod because they cave, and they go and they sit and watch TV, and they just like, "Ah, I'm going to tap out." And they sedate themselves so they don't hear the voice, the calling, whatever it is, that's pulling you. Because I think all humans have that. I think it's inherent from our creator that there's this thing that pulls us to want to do more. And we want to contribute. And we have this thing. But, the majority of people, they try to sedate it. They sedate it with TV, with drugs- Mark: That's right. Russell: ... with alcohol, with pornography, whatever it is like to get that noise out. Because there's pain with that. Man, it is painful to walk out... And I'll tell a story that maybe this kind of ties into the second one. But, we were about a year into ClickFunnels and this is all of our first rodeo. It was Todd's first time building an app this big and all these things. And I remember when we first built it, he was like, "I'm pretty sure that the way I built it will handle about 10,000 customers." We thought maybe that'll take a couple of years. And within a year, we were 10,000 customers. And sure enough, about a year in, things started happening and the site would go down for half an hour. Then they get it back up. And then all these problems and all these things. And it was just so much stress. And I remember I got asked to speak in London, to talk about ClickFunnels. So my wife, my kids, my family, we fly to London. As soon as we land at the airport, I get out. I'm trying to get my phone connected and get a SIM card and whatever. As soon as it gets in, my phone is just on fire from... And it's all these people who I knew. And I thought they were my friends, but ClickFunnels went down, and they were not... Pitchforks were out and they were ready to kill me. And I'm like, I don't even know what's happening. And so I remember, I messaged Todd and I'm like, "What happened?" He's like, "We've been down for two hours." He's like, "We can't figure it out." He's like, "If we're able to recover from this, then..." I don't know, something, but I just remember him saying, "if". And I was like, "Wait, if?" It wasn't, "when", it was, "if". And I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I don't even know how to deal with this." Mark: I've been there, I've been there. Russell: We're in a car and we're dragging the kids to the hotel. And they're like all excited from London. And I'm stressing out. I don't even know what to do. And finally get to the hotel, and we're talking. And everything's still down, and I look at Facebook, and everyone's, literal death threats, it's crazy how crazy people get. And just blowing up everywhere. And all I wanted to do was... And I'm a Mormon, so there's not many things that we can do to sedate. Let's go get some ice cream, right? I don’t have anything! What do we do? I remember that moment, I was just like, I just want to hide. But I was like, I don't think that's the right... I don't know, I don't think it's the right thing. I think I need to talk about this. And I shouldn't act like it's okay, because it's not. It gets... So I decided... So I went to our Facebook group at the time. I think it's still archived in there, you probably find it. But I did this video from the hotel room and I was like, "ClickFunnels is down and it is not acceptable. And I am pissed at myself, I'm pissed at my team, were all pissed. This is not okay." And like, I just went out, "All my sites are down. I'm losing money, you're losing money. I understand it. It's not fair to you. It's not fair..." And I just owned it publicly, live streaming. And it was scary. I'm like, "I don't know what's going to happen. I'm going to keep you guys apprised. But we're doing everything we can. And it is not acceptable. And I am so sorry, and we're going to fix this." And I just led with that. And then got off Facebook Live and then probably balled my eyes out. Like, "I don't know if we're going to fix this." And luckily, I've got an amazing team back home and they're killing themselves. Mark: Awesome. Russell: It'll be a good chapter in the bootstrap book someday. But everything went on. But I think about eight hours and they got it back up. And I remember, after it got back up, then it got stable. And then we're just like, "Oh no, what's going to be the damage from this and the fallout." And I remember... We get graphs every day of how many people signed up, how many people leave, and all those kind of numbers. And man, during that thing, our number of cancellations, almost non noticeable. And I was just like, if we would have went the other way around and hid behind it, people wouldn't trust... Who knows what would have happened? And that was such a good learning moment for me. We can't hide behind stuff in today's world. We just have to come out front. And so that was a year in. And then luckily, from that point, we had some other good partners who came on, like Ryan Montgomery, who came and helped us stabilize things and figured out all these things. And it's been pretty stable since then. It's just those things that you learn, of don't hide, don't sedate. And I think in all aspects of life, that's a lesson. As soon as the company gets hard, man, your brain's going to be looking for a million different ways to say no. Or like, "I don't want to go that way." "No, no, no." And, man, everything good always comes from going to the eye of the storm and pushing through it. And even though the pain seems like, if I sedate or if I check out it's going to be good. But it's not a way to live life. Mark: So, dude, it's funny you say that. I was just shooting a video about exactly that, about how everybody is kind of opiating themselves these days, through the dopamine hits of social or whatever it is. Everybody's got their drug of choice now. Again, you named a lot of them, binge watching, pornography, actual hardcore drugs. There are so many people that are hooked on fentanyl and heroin combinations. And, it's a really ugly cocktail of what's going on. And I want to kind of interject and maybe pause it, what I think another third lesson is for you. I'm actually going to ask you a question. Were you raised in Mormonism or did you choose to convert? Russell: I was definitely raised in it, but I also had a very definite point where I chose it. There, at least for me, I think there's always a time when a storm comes and you got to decide what you really believe. Definitely had that. So yes, and yes. Mark: I want to say, I would just kind of hypothesize, that that played a huge role in your personal development, because you guys are not allowed to involve yourselves in any of those sedation methodologies. They encourage a very morally upright life. And I have to say, being a veteran of the military intelligence community, I actually got to know a lot of Mormons, because Mormons go out there and they get their language training as missionaries. So there are a lot of Mormons in the military intelligence community. And I got to say, almost all of the Mormons that I worked with were really solid dudes, who were just genuine, sincere people, who wanted to live their life correctly, and legitimately wanted to be kind to people. And I know you've got people like Bill Maher out there, saying all kinds of really nasty things about Mormonism, calling it a cult and stuff like that. But my experience with Mormons has been nothing but very positive. And it would seem to me that your choice to really, even though you were raised in it, to decide to take that on very seriously, must have also been very pivotal for you in your personal growth. Russell: A hundred percent. I did go on a mission for two years for the church, and I went when I was 19 years old, which is typically for most people, that's the time when you're in college, you're partying, you're drinking, you're thinking all about yourself, and you go out there on your mission, and you can't do anything for yourself. You get a name tag, where literally, I was Elder Brunson. My name is gone. I'm not even a... And you're out there everyday serving other people during, typically the most selfish time in someone's life. And for two years, that's the lens you look at things. So, when you come home... And I always tell people, "I'm so grateful I made money after mission." Because, who knows what would happen? Both of us have friends that made a lot of money really young and it destroyed them. And so it's like... Mark: Oh yeah, definitely. Russell: Just super grateful that I had that lens to just... The lens of learning how to serve people before yourself, which is... Unfortunately, most people don't have that opportunity. And on a mission, you're kind of forced into it, and you learn to love it. Mark: It's funny for me. I went through... Even though my family was Catholic, I was kind of raised around atheist/agnostics. And I became, sort of what I would call now, a pantheistic spiritualist. But over time, I've become more and more rigid in that. I've explored all of the different world's religions. And the one thing... And I haven't decided yet, if I'm going to settle in any location. I still need to listen to your Mormon apologetics video that you made. I'm super curious about that. I need to make a point of hearing it, because I'm, open to it. I'm open to it. And when I see people who are living a life that represents genuine service for other people. I don't know if you ever heard of this guy, Father Gregory, who has this thing called The Homeboys' Bakery. And basically what he does, he takes these kids who were, they were in prison, and he gives them jobs at a bakery, and then helps teach them how to be decent people. And I saw that and man, I can't help but get choked up when you hear about something like that, man. Because when you see somebody living their life that way, and when you know what the cost of living your life the other way is, it makes you really take those kinds of things seriously. And even though religion gets a bad rap because, yeah, there's a lot of crazy stuff happening in organized religion, the notion that sin, however you want to label that, destroys your life, is an observable phenomenon, man. You can see it. When you do all the things that you're, "not supposed to do", and all of the religions of the world tell you not to do a lot of the same things. And when you see what happens to people who live their life that way, and they think they can get away with it. And then you see what happens to people who live their... And I'm talking about people who were the week, "Oh, I'm trying to be a nice guy as a way to manipulate people." That's a bullshit thing that some people do, right. I'm talking about guys who are like, "Hey, I'm going to make myself a strong person, and I'm going to do good in the world." When I see people like that, I'm like, "That is the path that we all need to be walking down." And the more of us do that, the better the world's going to be. Russell: Yeah, I had someone recently tell me... Learn about my beliefs and stuff and just be like, "Man, that must be really, really hard." And then at the same time, I looked at their life. And I was like, looking at the path that they've gone on, and not to judge them all. But I'm like, that seems so much harder. Mark: Yeah. Russell: I don't know. Maybe, but, I'm grateful for the path and I'm going to stay on it. Mark: Good for you, man, good for you, dude. I'm blessed to see your example, because you're yet another person I can look at it and say, "Hey, here's a guy..." And your life is harder than mine, man. Your company is doing way more volume than mine right now. You have kids to manage, you do all these extra things on top of it. And I'm like, "Man, I want to learn how Russell is managing all of this stuff." You know what I mean? Because you're younger than I am, but you figured some things out that I haven't figured out. I want to learn that. And I'm a moron if I don't learn it, right. This is where the ego less ness has to come in. If you want to be better and better and better, if you want to truly achieve greatness, you got to be really straight with yourself about what you can and can't do. So let's kind of tie this up now with this crossing the chasm thing, man. Russell: Yeah. Mark: I don't know if this is something that could be covered briefly. Because I imagine it's going to be a pretty complex thing, but what can you say about that? Russell: Yeah. And I'll tell you some of my thoughts. I don't know all the answers yet. We're on that journey right now. Mark: Yeah, good answer. Russell: And it's fun though. Because for me, it's been interesting as I've gone on this journey too, and maybe this ties back to the last question as well, but, and I'll tie it back to sports. When I was wrestling for a long time, it was me, I was the all-star. I was out there wrestling, it was my thing, I got my hand raised. I loved it. And now that I'm older and I've got kids now, my kids wrestle. And the transition from all-star to coach is really painful. Because it's like, "I want to be on the mat." Like, "Ah, they're doing things wrong." And like at first it's really painful. And then eventually, for me, my kids, this is my twins third year wrestling. And this year was so rewarding, because the stuff we've been working on, they're finally getting it. And to see them get their hand raised, actually felt better than my own hand raise, which is weird, because I was like, it's been the greatest moment of my life, is getting my own hand raised. And with business was similar, because the first two years of ClickFunnels, I was the all-star. People were like, "How big was your funnel building team?" It was me. I built the funnels, I wrote the sales presentations... Todd was doing the software, I was doing everything else. And I was the all-star. I'm doing the webinars, I'm flying around the world, I'm speaking, I'm doing stuff, my hand's getting raised over and over and over again. And as we started growing, it started getting harder and harder for me to handle that. And I remember three years ago, it was this spot where it's just like the pressure so much. I was just at a breaking point. I'm like, "I don't know what to do." I remember where I was at. It was some other conversation, but the thought that popped in my head was like, "You have to transition from being the all-star to being the coach. At the time, I had hired a couple people and they would go, they'd write copy for me or they'd build the funnel for me. And they'd do it. And I felt like it was like Michael Jordan. There are people that go up to shoot a shot, and he's like, "I shoot better” and grab it and just dunk on them, right. I felt like I was doing that. My team would come in, they'd get some like, "Oh this sucks." I'd go in and delete it all and rewrite it and fix it all. And like, "Oh I'm an all-star, look how good I am." And it was holding me back and them back and everything. And I was like, I have to make this transition to being the coach. So that was the whole second phase was, at first, it's hard. But now I'm looking at my team, now my team is getting so good. They're producing stuff and they're creating without me. And it's like they say to me, now they want something. I'm like that like, "Ah." Same thing, it feels better getting your hand raised when your team is doing it now. It's interesting. Mark: Well, you got a great model, really quick, I just want to interject, from wrestling. Dan Gable was kind of seen as the greatest wrestler of all time. And then he was... Now he's kind of universally recognized as the greatest coach of all time as well, across all sports. Right? Russell: Yeah. Mark: There are very few people who would deny that Dan Gable is the best coach of any sport, of all time. Russell: Think about how many people, making the jump from that, how many great athletes never become coaches? And I think a lot of it is the ego, right? It's been really hard for me, both coaching my kids and then coaching the team. There's this ego thing. You're like, "I can do it better." Or whatever. And it's so hard. And so anyone that can make that transition from all-star to coach, I have so much respect for them, because it takes a lot. Mark: Ego is tricky man, because the ego battle is probably the... That's the battle, right? Because the ego kind of drives you. That pride drives you so much in the beginning. Russell: It's the fuel, initially. It's the reason why I want your hand raised. The ego's the driving force, initially. And then it becomes the thing, that holds you back in the next phase. Like, "What?" Like, "You were such a great friend over here, now you're screwing me over." Mark: What just happened. Well, this is the genius of the design of the universe, right? It's like every time we think we've got to figured out, it's like, "nope, you don't." Because, whatever designed this, whatever your cosmology of the universe is, call it God or whatever, is infinitely smarter than you are. And it's going to come up with so many ways to trick you and keep you off balance, that every time you think you got it dialed in, there's going to be a new challenge that's going to come up. And you have to love that. It's kind of beautiful. Right? Russell: Oh, yeah. Mark: Because that's what keeps life interesting. It would be so dull without it. Russell: Yeah, it's so much fun.

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Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 2 of 4

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2020 25:36

Want to know how ClickFunnels became so popular so fast? Or how we generated over $10,000,000 in revenue our very first year, right out of the gate? I’ll give you a hint: We didn’t sell ClickFunnels as a software. To find out how we were able to grow so fast…and how YOU can grow YOUR company by hacking what we did, listen in to part 2 of my interview with Mark Joyner! ---Transcrtipt--- Russell Brunson: Hey everyone. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Show. I hope that our last episode, you enjoyed episode number one of four with my interview with Mark Joyner. And it's fun having chance to relisten to it and rewatch it, and just I had so much fun that night, it was such a cool experience. And so with that said, I'm not going to do too much more other than set up the second part of this interview with Mark. And I hope you guys enjoy it. If you are enjoying this series, please, please, please take a screenshot of this on your phone, wherever you listen to the podcast and post it on Facebook or Instagram. And tag me in it, do #marketingsecrets, tag me, and please give me your comments or feedback, your ideas, your aha's. I'd love to hear them. And with that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song. When we come back, you'll listen to part two of my interview with Mark Joyner. Mark Joyner: All right, what would be the third, most significant strategic move? Russell: Oh, there's a couple different directions. I could go on this one. Can I give two halves? Mark: Please, I love it. I love it. Russell: So one half is when we launched ClickFunnels, It wasn't just that we were going to build a software company. In fact, it was probably a month or two before we came out with ClickFunnels. I went with... I don't if you know David Frye, but David's one of my mentors. Mark: Yeah, I love David. Russell: His wife's actually my second aunt. So anyway... Mark: Oh wow. Russell: When he was dating his now wife, I was like a little snot nose kid running around at my grandma's house. And anyway. Mark: I love David. He's my buddy. He's a great guy. Russell: Yeah, he's amazing. And we were at this network marketing convention, and I remember we were there and the company was a software company. We're sitting there with like 5,000 people in the room. And all the people are coming on stage and they're crying and all this stuff. And I'm just confused, like this doesn't make any sense. And I remember he leaned over to me after two days of watching this and he said, "You see what they're doing?" I'm like, "No, I have no idea what's happening. I'm so confused." He's like, "They're not selling software, so they built a community." And I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's the thing. They have this community. They have a culture. And so when we started doing ClickFunnels, it was that mindset. How do we build a culture? So it's not just like a software. I want to build something where people feel part of it. Like it's not Russell's company, because Russell's company they'll go to whoever's the cheapest. Whoever's got the new feature. If it's their company , it it's their culture, that shifts everything. And so we started this whole thing from day one, of like, "We're funnel hackers. This is our movement. This what we believe in." And two weeks ago we had our Funnel Hacking Live. We had 4,500 people in a room and people are going crazy. We got people with ClickFunnels tattooed on their arms, people wearing custom funnels. And we had people coming on stage crying. And I'm looking out and I'm like, six years ago David Frye pointed out to me, that became a big piece of it. So I think it was not just having this as a software product, but having this as a movement, where it's bigger than that. So, that was one big strategic thing that I think a lot of people miss. And then the second one is, I think, again, it comes back to us as marketers. We get so excited about the next thing. What's the next offer we're going to create, and everything like that. And I remember after the first year, ClickFunnels grew to a certain point, and then me I'm like, "I want to create something new." Even though the market didn't necessarily needs something new, but I wanted to do something else. And so what I started doing is I realized, this funnel's in the middle of my value add. The webinar funnel and tons of people had seen it. It was starting to fatigue a little bit. And that point, we'd done over $10 million in sales. That's what we launched the second funnel to bring people to ClickFunnels. That's when basically I wrote the DotCom Secrets Book, and that became a book funnel. And people come and they buy the book, they go through the book funnel. And then at the end the book funnel, we just send them up into the webinar. Mark: See that funnel right there, by the way, the links up there for that. Russell: Oh, very cool. Mark: You guys should check that out by the way. That's another very, very interesting thing. You guys need to funnel hack what the guy who teaches funnel hacking does. Because this dude has a mastered this stuff and that funnel is sick. It is sick. Anyway, keep going. Russell: Yeah. Well, so I'll tell you a story that shows why this is so powerful. About a year and a half, two years into ClickFunnels, We started getting all the calls. This is when the VCs and other people start noticing you. And they're like, "Hey, we want to be part of your journey." And I was just like, "I have no desire to do any of that." And then one time, some guy was like, "We're in Boise State, can we meet with you?" I'm like, "Okay, sure, let's go to lunch." And turns out they were in San Francisco, they jumped in a plane, a private plane, flew in and then drove to our office and were like, "Hey." And I'm like, "Where you guys staying?" "Well, we just flew in." I'm like, "When? Just right...?" It was a whole thing that they tricked me into thinking they were right there. So I went to lunch with these guys and they start asking me all the VC questions like, "Well, how much does it cost to acquire a ClickFunnels customer?" And I was like, "Well, if we drive ads to the homepage, it's like", I can't remember at the time, "$150 to acquire customer." And the guy starts getting all excited and he's like, "Okay. So if we were to give you $40 million in funding", and he was doing the math, like how many customers that would equal all sorts of stuff. And he's getting all excited. And I was like, "Wait, wait, wait", I was like, "We actually turn those ads off." He was like, "What? Why would you do that? That's a great cost to acquire customer in the bay", or whatever. And I'm like, "because I'm bootstrapping this thing. I'm paying for these customers out of my pocket. I'm not paying $150 for a trial. I'm going to be broke in a week and a half." And so I said, "But instead, what we did is we created these book funnels, where someone comes in, they buy a book." And I said, "On average, we spend about $20 in Facebook ads to sell a book. But then there's a funnel. So the audio book and there's a course. And there's a couple of different products in the funnel. And so we spend $20 to sell a book, but we make $40 in the book funnel. So I net $20 cash in my pocket.And then I tell these people, "After you read this book, you'll understand the strategy of funnels. Now you need to use ClickFunnels. So technically all of our customers actually pays $20 before we introduce them to ClickFunnels." Mark: And this is the other book funnel, by the way, guys, if you guys want to check that out. Yeah. And both of these are pretty sick, because the first one was Dotcom Secrets and then Expert Secrets. Russell: And then Traffic Secrets is coming out in like a month. So that's the third book. Mark: And I'm going to be at that event. Can I say that. Can I say it? Russell: Yes, please do. Mark: Can I say it? Russell is holding this awesome live event. He invited a small group of speakers. Only 200 people are going to be there in the audience. But he's going to be broadcasting this live all over the world. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be one of the speakers. I was very flattered and grateful that Russell invited me to be part of this. This is going to be sick. Russell is going to spread this thing all over the place. It's going to be madness. Everything that Russell has put on since... Well, over the last few years, everything you've done has just been nuts. But it's been getting better and better and better. I'm so excited to see what you do with this one, because I have a feeling this is going to eclipse any of the past campaigns you've ever done. I got a little feeling in my gut. Russell: I was so excited for it. It's like, as I'm writing the book, all I can think about is how we're going to sell the book, like this is going to be so much fun. Mark: Oh dude. That's awesome. That's awesome. Russell: So fun. But what's crazy was I'm sitting there that lunch with the VC, I'm telling this stuff. And he doesn't understand it the first time, I explaining it three or four times. And finally remember he said something really profound. He said, "If what you're telling me is true, this will change business forever." And I was like, that's the whole thing. A software company that's grown to the size we have, all of them have taken on money. I can't find any that didn't. Mark: That's right. Russell: Maybe a couple. But for the most part, they all took on money to grow. And I was like, instead of bringing on cash to grow, you just use a funnel and it finances itself the whole way. And so I think that's a big strategic thing is like, we drink our own Kool-Aid. I literally today was working with my funnel team on our next funnel for the next campaign, to bring more customers in for free that we can then bring into ClickFunnels. So I think that's another big piece is just understanding you can grow a company without taking on cash, it's just understanding this funnel game where your customers finance the growth. And I think that's the best way to do it. Mark: Well, I got to tell you what. For me personally, my experience in the VC world and in the acquisition world and all of that, back in the early days of online marketing, you were still in college, but before the first dot-com bubble burst, I'll just give you guys one example of one of the ugly things I saw. Every company that I've ever started was bootstrapped, but we had some of the same things. We had people coming in trying to acquire stuff. I started the second pay-per-click search engine. While Google was still in college. I started the second pay-per-click search engine. Well, I want to be very careful about how I phrase this here. Let's just say around that same time, there was a group of people who attempted to acquire one of my companies and through some shady, reverse merger, backend, crazy deal, these guys basically bamboozled us out of everything. And it turned out that a lot of the guys who were involved in that ended up going to jail for stock fraud later. And that kind of thing, by the way, people don't understand, this is common. So not only are the VC guys who were the legit VC guys, those guys are sharks too. But there's a layer underneath those guys who were like straight criminal sharks as well. So you have to be extremely careful when you're swimming in that world. And this is why, for me, I don't want to accept outside funding for anything. I want to bootstrap everything. I want to surround myself around people who are as motivated as I am, so that I can grow it by pulling our own selves up by our own bootstraps. And then we're going to own everything. We're going to get all the profit, and we don't have to worry about some VC jerk off telling us how to run the business when they don't really understand. Russell: You want to know something cool? Mark: Please. Russell: I just bought bootstrap.com. And my next book is going to be called bootsrap.com. Mark: I love it. Russell: You said it five times. I'm like, "I'm so excited right now." Mark: That's awesome. Okay, so after the trilogy, you're starting a whole new thing. Russell: Yeah, because the trilogy has been how-to books. This one's not going to be a how-to book. This is going to be like the story of... And what's crazy, ClickFunnels was built remote, all of our team's remote. So almost every conversation has happened on Boxer. So we've recorded every important conversation in ClickFunnels. So I'm getting them all downloaded and transcribed right now. So it's going to be like, this is actually what Russell said. In fact, you could listen to the conversations. Anyway, I'm excited. That's going to be my next project starting in about a year from now. Mark: Beautiful. So, man, I'm going to have to skip a couple of these. All right, so here's one… Russell: I'm feeling good so we can keep going. Don't worry. Mark: All right. Awesome. Awesome. Well, you're always super energetic, man. Every time I talk to Russell, I get more energized. I'm generally a pretty energetic guy, but I just vibe, because Russell's got this amazing... He effervesces energy. All right, so what would you say are the three biggest barriers, or bottlenecks for growth in businesses right now? Russell: In my specific business, or just business as a whole? Mark: Well, either one. You pick either one. Russell: Interesting. So three biggest bottlenecks for growth. I think this may be a little early, but I think one of the biggest things people are going to see, right now we've been in this amazing season where advertising has been easy. When I first got started online, grateful for you, because I don't know how you guys can figure it out back in the day. We were building lists and there was no Facebook. Google, wasn't really there the way... I was lucky enough to hear your audio is on viral marketing. And we were building these viral sites to acquire customers email addresses. And I remember sitting listing the farewell package, and you talking about with crazy stuff you guys would do to get a list. So you got my mind thinking like that. Mark: Yeah, we had to get super creative. We had to get super creative. Russell: Oh yeah. No one thinks of that anymore. So what's happened is Facebook came out. It's easy. Everyone's in business and it's been like that for the last decade. So business has been so, so simple. And I don't think it's going to last that much longer. I think either some government regulation is going to happen, or they're just going to do a Google, where they start shifting away from smaller brands and just elbow us out and go after bigger companies. And I think in fact, that's a big reason I wrote the Traffic Secrets book. Hopefully you guys all have a chance to read it when it comes out, but it's very much not tactical, like here's how to run a Facebook app. I don't show the Facebook editor once. It's very much a strategic book, like how do you start thinking differently? Because when Zuckerberg comes and we always joke, it was probably because I was writing the book right when Avengers: Endgame came out. And Thanos, who does the Thanos snap and half the world disappears. We always talk about Zuckerberg. We nicknamed it off as Zanos. I'm like, Zanos is going to snap his finger, and half the entrepreneurs and businesses will disappear. And we're seeing it. I've had probably five or six people that are friends, in the last week alone, who's got Facebook ads shut down. And it's going to be coming. And so I think the biggest thing is that people have had it really good and really easy, because they've just been like, "I'd run Facebook ads, or I run a Google ad." they're just doing the basics, that are simple. It's going to get harder. And so I think it's time for all of us to start resharpening our marketing mind. In the Traffic Secrets book, I have a whole chapter on integration marketing. I learned this from my mentor, Mark Joyner, you guys need to start learning this stuff." Just all these different things that, that people haven't had to learn. I'm definitely looking at it and. And I keep giving you so much credit, because so much of my mindset initially was based on your teachings. But we spend so much effort right now focusing on list building, because I know that it's going to get harder to build lists. Like right now, from clickfunnels.com site, we get about 1500 opt-ins a day. And then for my other funnels, we get about three to 4,000 opt-ins a day. So we got almost 5,000 people a day opting in. And that's our focal points. Because I'm like, "I'm going to keep building these lists like crazy, because someday these other things might disappear, or get harder, or more expensive. And I'm going to have these lists, and I'll be able to weather the storm." Where a lot of people are not going to be able to, because they're not focusing on list building and building relationships with those lists. They're just out there buying Facebook ads, because it's easy. And I think that's one of the biggest things that I'm fearful for myself. I'm doubling down on, I think other people need to as well. Mark: I want to interject really quick here about something, because it's funny you bring this up. Because this is something I've been talking about a lot. So I've been doing a lot more public speaking lately. And one of the things that I've been talking about is exactly this. And I want to show everybody a little bit of an interesting phenomenon in it. Russell, I think you'll appreciate this. So if you guys remember Chris Anderson writing the book about the Long Tail, right? And if this is the unit numbers sold of any particular... Let's say you imagine you take Amazon's entire marketplace. This is the number of units sold and this is the rank. So the number one selling book is going to outsell the number two selling book by an order of magnitude, at least. So it's like the inverse of an exponential growth curve. So Chris Anderson's whole theory about the long tail, was that because automation is making everything so easy, was that yeah, traditionally people used to focus all their energy in here, because this is where all the money was. But now, because of the improvements we have in supply chain technology and deliveries, there's so much money in the long tail of the graph. And if you could have an inventory of billions and billions and billions of units that represents enormous economic potential. But here's what happened, the exact opposite of what Chris Anderson predicted is the reality of what happened. See Facebook, YouTube, all of these platforms, they built themselves on our backs. We were the ones that created all of the content so that these guys could be so big. And now we're the eyeballs, but guess who they care about now? If you take this out and you put in, you take this same graph and you speak in terms of ad spending, they only care about this portion of the graph. Why? While this represents a lot of economic potential. It also represents an enormous pain in the ass for the company that has to manage it. Russell: They hate customers. Mark: They hate the customers. And this is why when you're on Facebook and we're on YouTube, now, your ads are getting shut down algorithmically, or they're getting shut down by some low-level employee that doesn't really understand what's going on and they don't give you any explanation. And Russell, you've probably heard so many stories like this. People wake up in the morning and then they have this business, it's going great guns. And they're saying to their wives, "This is it. We've made it." And then the next day they wake up and then because something happened algorithmically in Facebook, they completely get shut down, that their lives are basically shattered as a result of that. So unless you're here, in terms of ad spend, you don't get their attention. They're not going to explain to you why they shut you down. And this is why we started this thing called integration marketing society. So you talked about integration marketing. So we're building integration marketing society, so people can band together and buttress ourselves against the threat of this. That's what that whole thing is all about. So I want to have another conversation with you about that another time, because I think that there's a lot of potential synergy there. I'm glad you're seeing that same thing. So what would you say is the number two and three bottlenecks now, then? Russell: Let's see. So definitely traffic's the biggest one, I think. And I don't know historically how all this all works, but advertising's all about the pattern interrupt. We're still seeing stuff happening. And then like the thing that catches our attention, it interrupts. And it used to be, back when we first got started, you figured out a pattern interrupt and nothing would last for months, or years before people caught on and figured it out. And now it's tough because we come out with the new pattern interrupt, we post it on Instagram, and within like 15 minutes, there's 800 other people doing the exact same posts. They see, "It worked for us it must work for me." And they start doing it. And it's interesting, because it's so easy now to clone and to copy and things like that. And so I think for people who are truly trying to grow companies and serve in a different level and like be creatives, being creative is harder. And I think that it takes... I don't know exactly how to phrase it right. But I think that the me-too stuff's going to get worse and worse, because there's some people copying, right? Mark: Yes. Russell: I'm going to get better at the creation and better at creative and better at figuring out how to break the pattern and break the pattern, and stay in front of that all the time. Because it's crazy how fast things get knocked off now. We have a campaign, or something that's working and it's crazy. In fact, I had this conversation with Dean Graziosi, He's become a dear friend and Dean ran infomercials for a year. And he said that he would record a show, an infomercial, and the lifespan was like 18 months. every 18 months, he had to record a new show. Then he came on the internet and he's like I started doing my ads and I would launch them on Facebook, or Instagram. He's like, "They'd be killing it for a day and a half, two days, and then it's gone." And he's like, "What?" And they couldn't figure it out. And he basically came back, he said I'm testing a bunch of stuff. He said, the biggest thing he figured out, he has to create tons of creative. I said, "Well, how much? One ad a week, two ads a week?" He's like, "No, no, no." He's like, "I carry my phone wherever I go, like two to three ads a day, minimum." And he's walking around with his book, like, "Here's an ad here." He walks to his daughter's soccer game, he's doing an ad there. And then he's in the elevators, doing an ad there. And just tons and tons and tons and tons of creative. And I figured out how to break the pattern, how to like how to grab people's attention. And so it's like, if you don't love your thing enough to like, "I got to create a lot more creative", it's going to be hard, because people are just knocking you off. So I think that's a big part for us. We used to spend so much time being slow on creating ads and stuff. Now it's more like, how do we stay in front of that curve and get excited where the art isn't in creating next product or the next campaign, or the next funnel, the art becomes, "What's a new way I can sell the thing you already have." And it's that big shift. In fact, in our company, I like building funnels. I'm a little obsessed with it. And so for a long time- Mark: Yeah, to say the least. Russell: Yeah. The way we kept growing is I create new funnel and create a new funnel. And the tough things is it's just hard to keep doing that, because then every time you create a new funnel, you got to create the new ads and it's a lot more work and effort. Whereas, now it's like we shifted our focus in less funnels, but more creative for every funnel. And it's just a different mindset shift. And so it's not super clear the way it came out, but it's one of the big problems I've seen that we're having is ad fatigue. It burns out super fast if you're not in front of just creation, always trying to figure out different ways to break the pattern. You're going to get left behind really, really quickly. Because the copycats are so many of now, that even if you are copying the gift pattern, the diminishing return hits so fast. Mark: Well, the problem is, is people also don't know how to copy. For me, there's like three levels of copying, one is straight out plagiarism. And then the next one is, is people take your surface stuff and they change a few words and then they pop that up. Which to me is just as dumb and is just as shady. Because first of all, changing a couple of words doesn't make sense when you're dealing with a completely different product. Russell: All sorts of stuff. Mark: Yeah. So many different things are different. And this is where you really got to get into the real understanding of when you're funnel hacking something, or you're modeling something, what you have to understand is the psychological structure behind it. And this is what Breakthrough Advertising, the classic Eugene Schwartz book that everybody should be reading. I had to read that probably about five times before it finally sunk in. Holy crap. I didn't really understand it at first. I was like, "Oh, okay. It's interesting." But then when it finally clicked. And his whole idea, it's basically based on the notion that you've got to analyze how to connect your product with the market forces that already exist. And every product, in every market is going to have a different way of connecting that. And you can't copy that from someone. The only way to get that correctly, to have a real big legitimate breakthrough in the business is through the process of analysis. And this that's the core idea of... There's so many nuggets of wisdom for breakthrough advertising, but that's the core thing that people had better get good at, because I tell you what, if they don't, here's what's going to happen. It's going to become like the quants in the trading game. The quants are like, "Hey, let's see who can shave a quarter of a millisecond off the trading time on the stock market." Well, if the marketing world becomes like that, good luck to you unless you're the guy with the best quants. The only other way to compete then is to train your creative mind, to come up with creative answers. And as you remember from the farewell package, there are so many ways to do that. There are so many out of the box ways. You don't have to do things the same way everyone else is doing, but everybody's getting lazy now, because they see the quick way to get it done. But I think what's going to happen to those people, it's going to be what happened to the people early on in the early internet era. When the guys got the big, quick SEO money. Because remember I was telling you, "Hey man, don't do the ad set. Don't go too far down that AdSense rabbit hole. Build your list." Well, remember all those guys who are killing it with AdSense. And then were, boom. Thanos snapped his fingers and then all of them money was gone. That's going to happen to everybody who doesn't build their creative muscle. Russell: 100%.

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Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 1 of 4

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Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2020 31:26

My first mentor that helped me to finally have success online was Mark Joyner. This is a four part series where I had a chance to be interviewed by Mark about how I’ve grown a company since I met him all those years ago. Here are a couple of the questions Mark asked Russell on this episode: What are the 3 biggest blunders you made along the way? What are the 3 most strategic and pivotal decisions since founding ClickFunnels? So listen in to find out what Russell had to say! ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, I want to welcome you back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And we've got something really fun in store for you over the next four episodes. So, when I first started this game back in the day, I struggled throughout almost two years trying to figure out how to play, and what to do, and how to get traffic, and how to sell stuff. And the person... I think everyone who figures out this game, there's a mentor you bump into. And I am so honored and grateful that so many people have... that I was the person for them. They read the book, or whatever, and the light bulbs clicked for them. But I'm also very aware that I'm not everyone's guru. I'm not the person... And I'm so grateful for all the other teachers out there who are teaching things who give other people the ah-ha’s. I always tell people our goal at ClickFunnels is not to get people to use ClickFunnels. Our goal at ClickFunnels is to help entrepreneurs to grow their companies. And so, I don't care if it's me that clicks with, or if you click with somebody else. I don't care as long as you get that aha moment. And so, for me, for whatever reason, the person that gave me aha moment was my first real mentor, and his name is Mark Joyner. And kind of putting this into a timeline, back when I got started in this business, he was just ending. He had built a huge internet marketing company, and he got tired of being in the market, so he sold off all his assets, and he did this thing called the Farewell Launch where he sold this Farewell Package for a thousand bucks, and it was the first course I'd ever bought, and I went through it like the most intense, crazy student of all the time. And I learned it, I mastered it, and I implemented it, and that was... man, 15, 16 years ago now. And he was the one that gave me the shifts that helped me understand... helped all the things light up and make sense so I could be successful. And so, I'm grateful for Mark. He's been a mentor; he's been a friend, and someone I have a ton of respect for. And it's funny, because in the middle of all the chaos over the last couple months, he messaged me, he was like, "Hey, I'm launching this new podcast called the Mark Joyner Show, do you want to come on and be one of my guests?" And I, honestly, didn't have the time because there was so many things happening, but I was like, "You know what, for Mark... For you, Mark, I would do anything." And so, we set up a time, it was late at night, we jumped on, and because it was after hours and my kids were already in bed, we were able just to go and talk, and we talked for a couple of hours, and it was really, really cool. And so, if you follow Mark, you probably saw that interview. And if not, I asked for his permission to allow me to play it here on the podcast over the next couple episodes. And so, I'm excited for you guys to hear it. I think you will get a lot of value out of it. We talked a lot about different topics and different things. Talked about things I learned from him, things that I discovered since then. Anyway, hopefully, you guys enjoy this conversation. We broke it up over four episodes. So, this is the first of four episodes. So, I hope you enjoy it. We'll play the theme song, and when we come back, we will jump right into the interview with Mark Joyner. Mark Joyner: All right, everybody. We are live. This is Mark Joyner. Welcome to episode number two of the Mark Joyner Show. And man, I am so happy to have this guest on today. And it was very hard getting this young man. I call him young man now, to me, he's always a young man. I knew him when he was like this college kid. I know, right? And now he's turned into this enormous, behemoth giant that cannot be unseen on the internet. You can't turn on the internet without seeing Russell Brunson's face. I don't know if Russell even needs an introduction, but I'm going to give you guys a very, very brief one just in case. So I'll tell you a little bit of the backstory here. So Russell and I met when he was trying to make money to pay off his college debt. And I'll tell you what, man, he had to convince his wife to spend a thousand dollars on a program that he couldn't afford that I was offering. And that started his online career, and I'm very grateful. He credits me as his first mentor, but I'm at a point now where I'm learning from him. And I want to tell you guys, if you are a teacher of any kind that the best blessing you could possibly have is a student that surpasses you. If you have any kind of humility or if you understand what life is really all about, that is one of the ultimate things that can happen because what that means is you did your job well, partly, and it also means that you got an opportunity to learn something from someone. And if you've got a guy who not only surpassed you in certain ways, but is also humble and generous and wholesome the way Russell is, you are doubly and triply blessed. And that is what we have seen with Russell since his genesis in the online marketing community, when was it? Probably 1991, '92. Russell Brunson: I don't even remember anymore. Well, when was the farewell package? That's right when I got started. Mark: About '91. Yeah. So, right as I was leaving, you were entering in. Russell: I was jumping in. Mark: You were jumping in. And Russell, I tell you what, I knew from the start Russell had ... he had some stuff that a lot of people didn't have. First of all, he was an all state wrestler. Now, a lot of you guys don't know this, but Johnny Hendricks, the first guy to really give GSP an ass whooping in UFC fought Russell Brunson in an all state wrestling tournament. Now, Russell didn't win that, but from what I hear, Russell should've won it. I see him gritting his teeth a little bit. Russell: I'm good. My hands are sweating, let’s call him up right now. I lost by one point to him. And to this day I regret that because it'd been so cool if I actually won that match. Mark: I know, right? Well, fighting the guy and coming that close, and I mean, even though you should have won, that's bragging rights in itself. This is the guy who was the first guy to give GSP a real ass whooping: Johnny Hendricks, okay? Russell fought that dude, and wrestling is the single most challenging athletic program in school at all. So what that means is you come into the game with some mental toughest. Now, I saw Russell's curiosity, his humility, the mental toughness he had. I saw all of that in him early on. And I knew something amazing was going to happen. I had no idea the heights he would reach. Now, ClickFunnels is on the way to becoming a billion dollar company. And that's what we're going to be talking about today. And we've only got a certain amount of time because Russell is on a very, very tight time schedule. So what I'm going to do here is after I give Russell a quick chance to say hello, I'm going to rapid fire a bunch of questions at Russell. We'll see how much time we have for a little bit of Q&A after that. If you guys have questions, post them inside there. I've got a list of questions that other people have asked, but I'm going to shotgun blast Russell with a whole bunch of rapid fire questions first. But before all that, Russell, thank you so much for coming on, man. I really appreciate it. Russell: No worries, man. I am so grateful for you. It was funny, we were cleaning up something the other day, and I don't know if you remember this, but my wife and I had just gotten married and bought your farewell package. And it was a year later because you kind of disappeared for a year, and then you came back. And you did this phone call with me. And at the time, I had this tape recorder. And I recorded all my phone calls. And I remember I did this call with you. I got done. I wrote on the tape, the cassette tape, I wrote a hundred million dollar call with Mark Joyner. And I need to find a tape player, so I could actually listen to what we said way back in the day. But I saw it recently and it's on again. And so it's really cool because I just remember you taking the time back then when I was a nobody, just trying to figure out my way. And just you were always so gracious with your time with me. And man, I listened for so much time. I'd plug in the farewell package in my head, and I'd hear you talking over and over again of just different concepts and things that were just blowing my mind. And so many things that, to this day, I still use that all came initially from you. So I'm just grateful for you and you allowing me to hang out with you again, man. I love this. This is so much fun for me. Mark: Well, I'm humbled and honored, man. And I would love to hear that tape, actually because I'm curious to know what was said. Russell: I've got to find it. Mark: We're going to have to find maybe one of the five cassette decks that exist in the universe now. They're all in the trash heap of history. All right. Well, dude, I have tons of rapid fire questions I just want to throw at you. And this is not going to be easy. I apologize in advance because these are going to be tough questions. I don't know how quickly we're going to be able to get through these, but I've got some really powerful ones that I think are going to deliver the most value. And you mentioned something there, you said, I took the time to spend with you. I always like to be as generous as I can with my time. And I know you do, too, but as your life progresses, you got to be more and more strategic and more and more careful about that. Now that we have this platform where we can get this information out to a lot of people. I want to deliver that as absolutely maximal value as we possibly can to the listeners of this call. So I have some very strategically designed questions. Before I jump into those, anything else you'd like to say? Russell: I'm just excited to be hanging out with you and excited to be sharing. I think when I started ... I mean, what are we, 15, 16 years ago when this whole thing started, I didn't know it was even possible, but I believed, and I believed you. I watched you as Mark's student. I can figure this out. And hopefully, if anyone's watching tonight, everyone's going to be at different levels. Some people are just getting started, some have existing businesses, but I think a big piece of it is just believing that it's actually possible for you because I just believed you right out of the gate. I'm like, "Okay, I trust Mark. I believe him. I'm just going to do it." And now, 15 years later, here we are. And I think for so many people, the techniques or tactics aren't hard, it's just the belief in themselves is the hardest thing. So if I give you guys anything, like I tell people all the time, my job at ClickFunnels is to be the cheerleader, to get people to believe in themselves. And so as you listen to these things, there's going to be a lot of stuff that comes up for most people like, "Oh, that'll work because he's Mark," or, "because he's Russell," or whatever. It's like, "C'mon, if you'd have seen me 15 years ago, I was a little punk kid who was just begging Mark to get on the call. On the forums, geeking out." And it's just time and belief and putting in the work, so. Anyway, hopefully that is a good lens people can go through this because I'm sure some things we'll talk about may seem impossible, but I tell you what, I did not think what we've been through with ClickFunnels was possible and here we are. So you never know. Mark: Well, first off, I think it's about 19 years actually, because if it was 2001, it's 2020 now, so. And I remember having a conversation with you early on. You were saying, "How did you want to become a guru?" And one of the things that I told you was you just decide that you're the guru, okay? But if the gurudom is a matter of perception. Now, there are a lot of people who misunderstand that and they say, "Hey, I want to be a brain surgeon. So I'm just going to chuck up a shingle on a door that says, I'm a brain surgeon." It's like, "No. That means you internally have faith in yourself, but that doesn't mean you act like you're something that you're not because somebody who is a real teacher, a real guru, somebody who's really mastered anything, understands that the learning's never end," right? And once you get to that point where you think you've got it all figured out, I guarantee you stagnation is the very, very next phase. So I'm going to dive right into these questions, man. And I'm going to start out with probably ... I'm going to start out on a slightly negative one, and then we're going to get into more positive ones. Russell: All right. Mark: Okay? And we'll start with ... so just rapid fire, if you could think, off the top of your head, the three biggest blunders you have made along the way. And I got about seven of these rapid fire questions like this I want to go through. So I'm putting you under time pressure. Biggest blunders, what would they be? Russell: From the beginning of time or just since ClickFunnels' time? Or how far back are we talking? Mark: Well, you know what, up to you. Up to you because all of these lessons are relevant. The lessons that you learned early in life mattered to you later on in ClickFunnels as well. And I mean, you can say ClickFunnels, earlier on in your life, whatever you think is appropriate. Russell: Okay. All right. So the three biggest blunders: I would say the first one ... I think most entrepreneurs have this initially because I think most of us get started because we want to make money. That's the thing. And so for the first couple of years of me being in this business, a lot of it was chasing like, where's the money at? It's over here. It's over here. And I get cheap money, and I don't know, you probably don't remember this, but one of the big, profound things you told me, because this is the same time that Google AdSense was becoming this thing. I had friends that were throwing up these crappy little AdSense sites where you just click on them like crazy. And people were making crazy money doing that. And I was like trying to figure those out, and something, I don't know if you said it verbally to me or since I was listening to you so often, but you kept talking about like focus on the fundamentals, build the list, build the list, build the list. And I was like, "But everyone's making money over here, clicking on ads on garbage sites." And you just kept drilling my head, like focus on the list, focus on the list, focus on the list. And so eventually, I started focusing on that thing. And then what was interesting is that led to the list of people, and then it started listing to what do the people want? It was less about what I wanted to create or what I wanted to ... how I wanted to make money. But it was more like, "These people are on my list. What do they actually want? How can I serve them? What are the things I needed to create? Who I need to become? What are those things?" And so I think the biggest blunder was chasing money or chasing the shiny object. And the resolution of that was really starting to understand that business is just people. And it's like, "How do we serve these people?" I talk all the time, I feel like business is a calling. I believe it's from God. Some believe from whatever, but it's a calling. You're called to serve a group of people. And you look at it from that lens. Okay. How do I serve this group? What do I need to do? And when you do that and you shift to that, that's when money starts coming. So that'd be the first blunder. I think that took me two or three years to figure through. Another one, I think is I spent a lot of time, for a while ... there's the strategy of business and the tactics, and I can get on the tactics so much. So I was doing tactical things that would get me a little pops of money or pops of cash or things like that, or a little bit of traffic or whatever it was. But it wasn't until I started stepping back and started trying to think more strategically, which is a hard thing for a lot of us entrepreneurs, because it's not as fast. It's like it's slower. But when you strategically put things together and connecting things, that's when the big stuff starts coming. In fact, I don't know if you remember this, this is another funny thing on the journey. It was a podcast interview I did with you probably seven, eight years ago. I think I asked you a question specifically about that. And you said the biggest problem you have right now, Russell, is you're focusing too much on the tactics. And I was like, "What is he talking about?" I didn't even know. And then I stepped back, and I think at first I may be a little offended or like, "What are you talking about? I'm doing really good." And then I really internalized that like, "Okay, what does that mean? What's the difference between strategy and tactics and let me understand that." And then it's like, "Okay, let me look at these ... instead of looking at it from this tactical lens up close, how do I step back and look at it at a bigger point?" And that's where ClickFunnels was born from was us stepping back. And part of it was it happened because we had some hard times in the business, whereas we had to re-figure things out. And we didn't have time to like ... you're out of money to goof around, and it's like, "We've got to make the right move. Let's think about this before we just jump." That's probably number two. And then number three is ... I think this, it's just a lot of my lens right now is I didn't understand the advertising laws for a long time. And I think now we have in house legal attorneys, and we've got everything we write goes through ... everything I publish literally has to go through an attorney first to make sure I'm saying ... I wish I would've understood that from the very beginning because there's so many things that us as a marketplace are doing that are illegal that we don't even know. We think that like, "Oh, because we've got this person's success story, I can tell that success story." And it's like, "Even if that thing is true, you can't just tell that story." There's advertising laws that dictate that. And I think in the last two years is where I've really started to understand that and respect that. And first, as marketers, we hate all the rules and the regulations, then you start respecting it, and then it actually makes you a better marketer, a better business person. And I think you can serve people better when you start understanding those things. And so I think that's something I'm going to be talking a lot more to our community as a whole about just because I'm starting to understand it so much better. And there's some people that are having success, but they're doing it, saying things that they shouldn't be in and they can't be saying. So those are probably the biggest ... anyway, three big blunders for me. Mark: Well, I'd tell you what, man, if this were any other guest, I would be commenting back and forth. And I have a lot to say about everything that you just said, could not agree more with all those things you said, but because we have such limited time and because you are such an extraordinary phenomenon right now, I'm going to use this time instead to shut up and extract more information out of you because there are so many good lessons that we can get from you. Next three I have are ... now this is going to be very interesting. So this is one I'm probably the most curious about. The three most significant/ pivotal strategic moves or decisions that you have made since the inception of ClickFunnels. Russell: Oh man, these are good. Okay. The first one is definitely easy. The first one ... so my business partner is Todd Dickerson. He's my co-founder. And he's the brains that the built ClickFunnels. I always tell people on the dancing monkey on stage talking about it. He's the guy who got his hands dirty because I can't code. In fact, the joke is he was building ... he was like, "If I can make something so simple that Russell can use it, the rest of the world is going to love this thing." And so initially, Todd worked for me for a long time, and we did projects together. And he lives in Atlanta, Georgia, and he'd fly to Boise about once or twice a year, and we'd sit down and brainstorm ideas. And I remember the time he came out, and we talked about building ClickFunnels, and I was like, "I've tried to build something like this before." I think it wasn't a unique idea. I think everybody had tried to build it at one point like, "Let's build software that makes this whole funnel thing easy." Everyone had that idea. It wasn't unique. Then Todd was like, "We should build it." I'm like, "Okay, I've tried it before. It didn't work. Everyone's tried it." But he's like, "No, I think I can do it." And so we sat down for a week in front of a whiteboard and mapped out what the dream would be, the vision, if we could have all these things. And I remember after the week was done, I was driving back to the airport. And as we got to where I was going to drop him off, he kind of stopped for a second and said, "Hey, if we're going to do this project together or this project, I don't want to do it as your employee. I want to be your partner." And I remember that, that was the moment where it's just like, "But I'm the entrepreneur, I'm the one that's ..." The ego was just there. And I had all this fear and all this anxiety. All these things that were just like, "Ah." And as I was sitting there, I literally, in that moment, made the second best decision in my life outside of marrying my wife. And it was like I said, "Let's do it." And I said yes. And that little shift from "I'm the guy" to "let's do this together" meant everything. And he went home and built ClickFunnels. And he has been, to this day, the most amazing business partner anyone could have ever dreamt of. And so I think that's the big thing is the strategy of getting out of your own ego and being okay with building a team and realizing you don't have to be the person. I was talking about some funnel hacking live, I think one of the big things that entrepreneurs do is we're going on this journey and we get stuck. And we're like, "How do I do the thing?" We get into this procrastination mode of trying to learn how to do things. And the question should be asking ourselves is who. Who already knows how to do this thing. And then we started assembling our dream team. And if you look at any good movie series, right, the Avengers you've got Nick Fury comes in, assembles the dream team, they go and take out Thanos. You got Justice League. Every good movie, Ocean's Twelve, Ocean's Eleven, this person comes in, build the dream team, and they go attack this thing. And I think most entrepreneurs have so much ego and pride that they don't do that. And, man, looking back it was like that was the first time I said, "Okay, I'm going to have a partner." And we brought in other partners. And now, one of the biggest reasons why I've been able to grow is because I have this amazing team of people around me who have equity in the company. They're up tonight working just like I am because they care and they love it. And they're vested in it. And I think that was probably ... man, if I would've said no to that, nothing would happen. It would've been a complete different landscape. Mark: Right. Todd wouldn't have been vested into the whole program the way he is now. But now, he's super motivated because he knows that every bit of effort he puts into it, he's going to get an outsized return way beyond what he would've received had he just been an employee. Okay. Beautiful. All right. What's the number two then? Russell: Number two. So the strategic planning ... I'm trying to think how to explain it right. When we first launched ClickFunnels, I had an idea. I remember we created the way I thought we were going to sell it. It was a funnel. I think I actually sent you a video about this, but we had a funnel at night, and I launched it. We launched it. I was like in my mind, I'm like, "We'll have 10,000 customers the first month." And we launched it. And it was a bomb. The funnel didn't convert. A couple affiliates promoted it and it didn't convert, so they all stopped. It was just like, "We've spent a year of our life creating this thing." It was just like, "Er." Mark: I remember this. Russell: And you've watched me before this because I didn't know what I was going to do for a long time. We were launching a new offer every quarter for six or seven years because I didn't know what ... I was just doing thing after thing. And so that was the pattern just because I didn't know how to run a business or all these things. And this was going to be the thing we thought, and we launch it and nothing happened. And then it was like, "I need to launch something else." And I was like, "I can't because we put so much time into this." And I remember Todd said something to me. He's like, "We have to focus on this for a year just to prove to everybody that this is actually a real thing." And that meant we had to just ... all in. And so we had this point where it's like, "Can we shift to another offer real quick and make money to keep us all afloat, or we can just burn the bridges." And so we had a supplement company we got rid of. We shut down all these side projects. We just turned them all off. And it was like revenue's like, "Er. Flying to the bottom, but we have to focus. We have to focus. And we launched four or five or six different versions of the funnel. None of them worked. And it wasn't until I got asked to speak at an event. And they wanted me to do presentation to sell ClickFunnels, and I was like, "I've been trying to sell ClickFunnels, nobody's buying it." And the promoter was like, "Well, you need to make a thousand dollar version of it." I'm like, "I have a free trial. I can't get people to take the free trial." And so he basically he's like, "You're on the sales page. You have to speak." And so two days before we met, I was trying to think of what's the messaging? How am I going to sell this? And I created the first version of the webinar to sell ClickFunnels, went to Savannah. I stood on stage, and I delivered this presentation. And it was like I had figured out ... I didn't realize until I did the presentation, but I got the messaging right. And as soon as I did that, it was crazy because I think 30, 40% of room who ran in the back and bought. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, we got the messaging right." I remember going to dinner that night with Todd and a couple of the partners at the time. And I was like, "You guys, just so you know, that was it." They're like, "What do you mean?" I'm like, "That's the message. Did you see how people ran to ... I've never had people run to the back. We got the messaging right. It's game over." And what normally would happen in my prior life is like, "Cool. We made a bunch of money." I would've went to the next offer. And I was like, "Okay, I'm going to do that webinar at least once a week, every week for a year." And I ended up doing it a lot more than that. I mean, I was doing it two or three times a day sometimes. But we got back home. I was calling everybody I knew. We were buying ads. Everything's this webinar. And I did that webinar every single day. And the webinar happen ... I do webinars, get the sales date, look at the questions, and we go back through, read them, and then we tweak the webinars, do it again, tweak webinars, do it again, tweak it, do it again. I think I did that webinar live, I think it'd be like, 70 or 80 times the first year live. People are like, "Why didn't you automate it?" And I'm like, "No, no, no. This is my baby." I'm not automated. I need to perfect this message. I need to understand every concern, every problem, everything. And we focused on that. And that hardcore focus on mastering the messaging of it was huge. I think some people try something, and they step back and it's like that's why things don't scale because you have a good message, but ... it's funny because I always tell people, if you can get 10% of the people to buy your webinar, it's a million dollar a year business. A little lower than that, you're a six figure business. But if you go from 10% to 15%, which seems like a small incremental change, and that's the difference between a million dollar a year business and a hundred million dollar business, 5% increase in conversion. And so because I did that presentation 70 whatever times in a row, we mastered it. And so we had the messaging right. And so that was the first part. And second part was the funnel structure. This is where I made a video for you. But because the first time we tried to launch ClickFunnels was just like sign up for the trial because it was hard, I couldn't afford to pay ads for the trial. I couldn't go negative in the hole, affiliates wouldn't promote. It was just ... it was hard. Then we had the thousand dollar webinar, they got a year worth of ClickFunnels. We promoted that, and we made a bunch of cash, but it was like there was no cash flow. So it was kind of like I was back in a launch model, which we didn't like that either. And the winning combination we figured out was we have some registered for the webinar, on the thank you page you say, "Hey, the webinar's going to be in a day or two, go get a free ClickFunnels account and try it out just so that when you come to the webinar, it will make sense." And so people go get a free trial. And the webinar happened, which would train the people that already had a trial, and hopefully they would retain longer. But a percentage of those people would buy the thousand dollar version. And so that combination was like ... that's when it was like, "It's on like Donkey Kong." And we started going crazy. And after 12 months, we ended up having 10,000 members that joined, 2,500 that paid the thousand dollar cash. And the other 7,500 were people who had stuck from the thank you page, and that was your number one. And then it was just ... it gives us a bit where we could spend money to acquire customers because the thousand dollar thing, but it was building up this recurring income at the same time. And it just took it from the ground into lift off. So mastering the message and mastering the funnel was probably the second big strategic thing. Mark: You know what I really love about that is how you're training people to see what the monthly cost would be when they sign up for the trial. And then when you give them that big offer at the end, stacked with all those other things, it becomes so irresistible because you are training the mind to perceive it a particular way. And then boom, it's a huge pattern interrupt with the way you do it. Now, I would love to see what your latest and greatest version of the webinar is. I've seen a couple versions of it, but I want to know, and I think I asked you this before, I was like, "Man, show me what the ultimate version of it was," because you're automating it now, right? Russell: Yeah. Mark: Oh dude. See. And yeah, anybody watching this, if you don't go find out the automated version of that, and by the way, I'm going to give you guys a banner that you guys can look at. I think a place where you can see this is go to this URL here. This is the basic ClickFunnels website. If you sign up for the two week trial there, you will probably be shuttled in to watch the webinar. Russell: You'll start seeing the actual webinar. They'll show up. Mark: One way or another, they're going to get you to watch that damn webinar. If you guys go to simpleology.com/clickfunnelsfree, start the two week free trial. If for nothing else, just to see how Russell structures this, you need to do it. Now, disclosure, my company uses ClickFunnels now. I've been involved in three other companies before Russell started ClickFunnels that were trying to build the automated WYSIWYG funnel building. None of them did the job very well. We use ClickFunnels now because what they built is so damn good. I'm like, it doesn't make any sense. And by the way, there is a classic thing ... and I'm going to say this very quick before I shut up and get back into questions for Russell, but there's a very classic business lesson a lot of people don't understand, and there is a conundrum between build or buy. And the build or buy conundrum is this: if you take your own internal resources and you build something, you got to understand that that's energy, that's time, that's assets that you could be committing to growth, right? If you can take a little bit of money and buy a solution that's already pre-made, often, even though it's expensive, it makes way more sense because I can guarantee you the time, energy and money that it would take you to build your own ClickFunnels version would be astronomically higher than what it would cost for a ClickFunnels subscription. So when you have the choice between build or buy, you almost always buy, unless there's nothing out there in the marketplace that gets the job done well. And by the way, I've tried all of these other funnel builders. A lot of them claim to be better. Well, I'll tell you two more things about this, okay? Russell's is better, okay? And two, the culture of the company has proven to be stable over a long, long period of time. I see a lot of companies coming out now with like, "Oh, we're trying to be better than ClickFunnels." And I'm like, "Yeah, this is coming from the same dudes that started 20 other companies that lasted six months and disappeared." Russell: At least know for lifetime access for 27 bucks. And I'm like, "Right." With how much I spend on customer support alone. It's like, there's no way you can survive. Mark: Yeah. There's no way you're going to compete with Russell. I mean, good luck to all those guys. Competition is fair and everything, but you think you're going to compete with this dude? Sorry. I wouldn't compete with you in this marketplace. No way, man. You've got such a huge foothold.

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Business & Shakespeare?

Justin Answer

Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2020 3:06

Are there any business secrets in Shakespeare? So suggests my legendary friend Mark Joyner. I’m no Anthony Hopkins, but I felt moved as I read Sonnet number 18. What do you think? Any business secrets pop out? --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/justin-donne/message

Mark Joyner - Where To Focus For Exponential Wealth Growth

Own It! For Entrepreneurs. Talking Digital Marketing, Small Business, Being Digital Nomads and Success Thinking

Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2020 70:30

Today we are chatting with Mark Joyner, author of Your Roadmap To Money In 2020: A Cautionary Tale Of Hope. Mark Joyner is known as the father of internet marketing, having created the first pixel tracking, the first funnel, the first ebook publishing company, and the first one-click upsell. All of these terms we talk about in the internet marketing world were essentially invented by Mark. We are talking today about his roadmap which is all about the future, where technology is headed and how to apply it in your business and prepare yourself for the years ahead. There’s value in all of this and this is a layer where most people are not thinking. If you’re curious enough in what’s happening on a deeper level, it’s going to get you thinking in such a way that will only benefit you. So this is your opportunity to get ahead. Make sure you grab Mark’s report as well since, with everything we talked about in this episode, he goes ten times deeper. When you’re done, be sure to check out our show we recorded with Rich Schefren and Mike Koenigs, on the future of technology and how to keep up with ever-changing trends. “Part of our existence is that life is warfare, so don't feel bad about having to do this as part of the grand design. I love using the military as a metaphor for many things because it is so apt for so many things.” - Mark Joyner Some Topics We Discussed Include: From being self-taught with no formal education to getting books published as textbooks How to go down the rabbit hole on a particular topic while not getting misled by the media Who can you really trust when watching the news? What is ‘The Big Five Phenomena’ and why it’s not necessarily a good thing Epistemological illiteracy and how it relates to your beliefs How the rate of paradigm shifts has constantly increased and what you can do to keep up What do Astroturf and Coco Puffs have in common? How to survive in this new landscape Untold secrets even with top-level CIA clearance Why the future is in the hands of entrepreneurs and how you can be a part of it And much, much more! Contact Mark Joyner: Simpleology.com References and Links Mentioned: Your Roadmap To Money In 2020: A Cautionary Tale Of Hope - get your free ebook Integration Marketing Simpleology Our video interview with Mark Joyner Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! This episode is sponsored by our go-to SEO research tool, Ahrefs.com, by Easy Webinar and Gina Horkey’s Podcast Production School. Will Humans Become Obsolete In The Near Future? - Mike Koenigs Big Tech Will Crush Your Online Business (What To Do About It) - Rich Schefren

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Own It! 272 | Why Do People Hate the Rich

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2020 50:33

Nicola and Judith debate whether the hatred of the rich Nicola is seeing expressed on Twitter is justified. Conversation turns to Victoria Beckham... In The Show Nicola is using her podcasts and webinars to give a shape to her week, and she has a new addiction to primitive tech videos on YouTube. Judith’s had her first outing in the car in seven weeks, and been to dinner next door with her two young lockdown buddies. #PrimitiveTech #Vitamins #SilverLinings #Neom #Lockdown #MoneyGenius What's Fuelled Their Fire? Judith shares one of her best testimonials ever, and Nicola reminds Judith about Mark Joyner’s book Simpleology: The Irresistible Offer. Focus Of The Week - Why Do People Hate the Rich? Nicola and Judith debate whether the hatred of the rich Nicola is seeing on Twitter is justified. Conversation turns to Victoria Beckham, Richard Branson, Motorhead, Aerosmith, Terry Christian, Cath Kidston, footballers and Jean Jacques Rousseau! Washington Post Article: Why Does Everybody Suddenly Hate Billionaires? Words Of The Week Judith chooses Quarantine and Nicola goes with Discombobulated. Project Updates Nicola launches her new website project and it’s called MoneyGenius.Club. Who Or What's Impressed Judith appreciates the whistle blowers, truth-tellers, Doctors, citizen journalists and documentary film makers breaking the silence and bringing the alt news. Nicola is inspired by anyone carrying on as normal. *** Join our free Facebook Group for Own It! the Podcast and talk back to us about what you hear in the show. Support our podcast on Patreon with a few monthly dollars to help defray our costs - thank you! Thanks for listening! To share your thoughts: Leave a rating and review via your podcast app Ask a question in our Facebook Group:https://www.facebook.com/groups/OwnItThePodcast/ To help the show: Subscribe via Radio Public, iTunes, Stitcher, YouTube, TuneIn, Libsyn Please share on Twitter, Facebook or whatever social media platform you love to use and tag us if you can - we love to read your comments! Website: https://OwnItThePodcast.com

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Mike Morgan

Geniuses Of Copywriting

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2020 28:58

Today on the Geniuses Of Copywriting podcast we have underground copywriter and Agora control beater - Million Dollar Mike Morgan. In this episode: - How Mike turned a failed launch into a $100k payday with 1 email - Mike's habit of writing 7-figure promos for his clients on their first project - How any good writer can work with Agora and leverage their huge credibility Mike has testimonials and endorsements from John Carlton, David Deutsch, David Garfinkel, Mark Joyner, Michel Fortin, Pauline Longdon and many other big names in the industry. Mike doesn't seek the limelight - he is a working copywriter, so make sure you absorb every word of wisdom he drops in this episode. Full transcript available in the Facebook group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/GeniusesOfCopywriting/

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EP 8: How to create an IRRESISTIBLE OFFER

Clinic Growth Secrets

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 17, 2020 26:48

In this episode we talk about how you can create an irresistible offer for your practice! I learned this concept a long time ago from entrepreneurs & marketing legends Mark Joyner & Alex Hormozi. In fact, many industries have utilized and are currently using this concept to create attract raving into their companies! Here are the EXACT 6 strategies to creating an offer that is guaranteed to help you stand out from your competition AND have customers FLOCKING into your office! Take them, run with the, apply them to your practice & sit back and watch your growth! Questions for an upcoming show? Shoot me an email: chiropracticmarketingsecrets@gmail.com OR Send me a message on facebook - always happy to answer any questions that you may have! Oh, and join our group on facebook if you haven't - we stream these live every week :) https://www.facebook.com/groups/1257137254489095/ PEACE!

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What about God: A Seeker's Journey to Faith with Mark Joyner - Episode 056

The Joel Comm Show - A podcast about business, life and doing good stuff

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2020 138:56

Episode marks the reboot of The Joel Comm Show in a new format. Less business and more real life conversations, Joel brings you guests and topics that will reach your mind and emotions. In this show, Joel welcomes Mark Joyner to the mic. Known to many as The Godfather of Internet Marketing, Mark is a seeker of truth. His inquisitive social media posts create fantastic engagement on all kinds of topics. Just as we are all on our own spiritual journey, Mark is on his as well. He wanted to talk about Christianity and had questions for Joel. This discussion explores the foundations for the Christian faith with honest questions and thoughtful responses. Be prepared for a deeply engaging give and take on a meaningful topic. You might end up seeing things different. For more of Mark's content, visit https://www.facebook.com/markjoynerpersonalSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Meet Mark Joyner, the Godfather Of Internet Marketing

The Joel Comm Show - A podcast about business, life and doing good stuff

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2019 83:04

Are you ready to meet The Godfather Of Internet Marketing? Today on Joel.LIVE, Joel will introduce you to Mark Joyner. Mark's credentials are vast, including creating the world's first ebook publishing company, creating the first ever online ad tracking platform, creating the world's second PPC search engine, even before Google Adwords, inventing the tracking pixel, was Russell Brunsons first mentor and created three billion dollar industries. He's a growth-hacker and mind-hacker, as well as being a brilliant thinker.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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509: 3 Baffingly Paradoxical Time Hacks - Extreme Time Management & Productivity Tips from Mark Joyner by Ben Greenfield

Optimal Health Daily - ARCHIVE 1 - Episodes 1-300 ONLY

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2018 11:03

Ben Greenfield shares 3 bafflingly paradoxical time hacks for extreme time management & productivity (from Mark Joyner). Episode 509: 3 Baffingly Paradoxical Time Hacks - Extreme Time Management & Productivity Tips from Mark Joyner by Ben Greenfield. Author of the New York Times Bestseller, Beyond Training, Ben Greenfield's balanced approach to fitness, nutrition and health comes from his extensive experience in the fitness and wellness industry as one of the country's leading personal trainers and wellness consultants. In 2008, Ben was nominated by the NSCA as America's top personal trainer, and in 2013 and 2014, Ben was voted as one of the top 100 most influential individuals in health and fitness. A frequent contributor to health and wellness publications and a highly sought after speaker, Ben's understanding of functional exercise, nutrition, and the delicate balance between performance and health has helped thousands of people around the world achieve their goals and improve their quality of life. The original post is located here: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/lifestyle-articles/time-management-and-productivity-tips Ask Dr. Neal your question about health, nutrition, diet, fitness, and more here: http://OLDPodcast.com/ask or call: 614-568-3643 (61-I-LOVE-OHD) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My Interview With Tony Robbins…

Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2017 15:00

Behind the scenes of what happened over the last ten years to make that experience happen. On this episode Russell talks about a Facebook Live interview that he did with Tony Robbins and how it was the first thing he had ever asked Tony to do in their 10 year relationship. Here are some of the cool things you will learn in this episode: How Russell was able to do a Facebook Live with Tony Robbins to promote his new book. Why Russell has never looked at his relationship with Tony Robbins in terms of what Tony could do for him. And why the ROI with relationships is the cultivating and building of that relationship. So listen below to why Russell believes so strongly in building relationships without expecting something in return. ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, welcome to Marketing In Your Car. I have good news and bad news, you guys. You want the bad news or the good news? The good news is I got some cool stuff to share with you. The bad news is, maybe this is good news, I don't know. I think, and I'm a little nervous about this, but I think I'm ready, you guys ready for this, to rebrand the podcast. What? It's been called Marketing In Your Car for the last, I don't know how long I've done this for, but I bought the domain and concept initially ten years ago. It's been cool and I like it, but I'm thinking about changing. I wanted to change it, I think we've talked about this a couple of times. You are my therapist sometimes on these things. I was going to change the name of it a couple of times, but I haven't, and I haven't and I haven't'. Then yesterday something happened. I had to find something that wasn't just better, but a billion times better and I think I may have got it. I'm not going to tell you what it is yet, but I'm excited because it's like a billion times better. So there may be a new rebrand coming up here soon. So if you guys like it, you've got to let me. I'm excited for it, so excited. So that's something I'm going to give you. I gotta step back. Today was a good day, yesterday was a good day, yesterday was insane. We had our certified partners in town. We had a big group of 45 people here, and some of our inner circle members were the ones that were actually some of the business owners that the certified partners had a chance to interview them, figure them out and then go out and actually build the funnels all night for them. Then they come back and present their thing. It was really fun. It was fun, to kind of capstone at the end of the certified partner program. I have a chance to speak to them at the very beginning, and then kind of sneak in and watch what they were doing and that kind of stuff, and it was really cool. Now most of them left today. And then, yesterday the other cool thing, as you know we're in the book launch. We're almost, a few books away from 30 thousand books, we'll definitely pass it today. And not that this matters, but on the, if you look at how much money is made inside of the cart for every book. Probably tomorrow my guess is we will pass $1 million dollars collected through this funnel. Through the front end funnel, not counting the backend stuff, which is also really cool. Which means the Expert Secrets book will officially be inducted into the two comma club, and we'll order my own big old record plaque. Yes, I'm just like you guys, I want one every single time I have a funnel that makes a million bucks. We will be ordering one of those. Today or tomorrow we will be passing 40 thousand active Clickfunnel members as well. So many cool things happening. That is so exciting. And then to step back on another thing, as I've been doing this book launch, as you guys know, I've been doing all these Facebook Lives, these interviews and they've been going awesome. Kind of exhausting, not going to lie. Plus, we're doing a juice fast this week, which is the second juice fast I've done this month, which basically means when I'm not juice fasting I'm overeating, because I keep having to come back to it. What's funny, Dave Woodward and his wife Carrie, were teasing me behind my back because I got all these guys to do the juice fast with me this time. Dave was like, “Why is this so hard? Why isn't Russell complaining.” And they're like, “Russell's a professional dieter.” And we were laughing because I actually am, if you think about it. I spent 12 years of my life as a wrestler, wrestling. And what I did, every single Monday I would come in and be 30 pounds overweight and every Friday I would be 30 pounds down and I would weigh in and then start the vicious cycle over again. Over and over and over again for 12 years of my life. I didn't mind it in wrestling, but you don't realize the pattern that sets. So I had this epiphany the other day when I'm hanging out with Dave and Carrie, I might have already talked about this, I don't remember. But basically my pattern in life is that same way. Every Monday, from Monday to Friday, I'm at the office and I eat perfectly, I usually lose about 5 pounds a week. Then Friday, Saturday, Sunday I just can't stop myself. It's insane. So I think it has to do with my wrestling patterns that I instilled over 12 years of dieting all week and then pigging out all weekend. That's my pattern and why I can't ever lose weight. Because I lose weight Monday through Friday and then the last three days, I had my weigh ins and then I can eat whatever I want, then Monday I start over again. So I've been professionally dieting now for 25 years, which is kind of cool, except for its lame. Why would I tell you that story? Oh yeah, that's why I'm on the juice fast again. Someday I'll figure this out. It's a psychological problem I know, I gotta fix that. I gotta fix my brain. Which I actually working on from multiple different angles, so that's good. Now that I'm aware of it I can effect it, which is hopefully the key for some of you guys. Alright, step back, it was really cool. We had my interview with Tony Robbins yesterday, he was interviewing me. I've interviewed him before, he interviewed me on New Money Masters Series. We've kind of done back and forth on some of these things. And it was crazy because in true Tony fashion, he tells you, “Hey, we're going to start at this time.” And then they shift it 10 times throughout the day. So I felt bad because we had other poddcst interviews lined up and we had to keep bumping people and shipping things around. So if I bumped you yesterday because of Tony, I'm apologizing, but come on. It's Tony, it was so cool. I've known Tony now for almost 10 years, which is crazy. It's been a decade since I've known him, which is insanely cool. And in that time, I've never asked him to do anything, I just love him and what he does so much that I was like, how can I help him? We helped, we created a book funnel for him. I paid my own costs, paid my own flights, paid my hotel. It all came out of my own pocket, I spent probably 20 grand building a book funnel for him and just gave it to him as a gift. I've coached his people and I've helped consult him and other people on his team. Iv'e done a lot of things like that. I've spoken at his events, anything I can do, I've tried to do and just help him, and not with an ulterior motive like, “Someday, he's going to get me.” I have a joke with one of my buddies who always jokes, “I'm your real friend, I'm not here because you're successful, I'm your real friend.” I'm like, “Whatever, it's a long con. You're waiting ten years from now to cash out.” So it's always this joke, “How's the long con treating you?” So why I say that, with Tony it was never a long con. “Okay, ten years from now he's going to maybe promote me.” It was never like that, it was like, Tony's freaking awesome, he's helped me so much. How can I help and serve and give back. I don't think I could ever give back what I got from him. So anything we're doing is just cool. But think about, I helped him from giving what I'm best at and gave that to him for free. I paid him to come to my event. I'm a customer. I've done all those things, and just because I'm trying to give back to him in a little way. And obviously he gives, every time I help a little bit, he gives back so much more. He came to our event, we paid a lot of money for him to come to the event as our keynote, but then he came back and went for 5 hours and just blew everyone's minds and it was insane. Anyway, long story short. I have never asked Tony to promote anything ever. This came around, the book came out and it was the first time I was ever like, “hey, would you be willing to do this?” And he's like, “Yeah.” And what's crazy about that is I think so many people go into relationships, looking at what's ROI for me in this deal? Should I invest my time and I think that that's the reason why most people don't get deals to happen and they don't have longer term things happen. You know what I mean? If went to Tony like, “Alright what's my angle, how am I going to get him to help me?” It never would have happened, I don't think. But because I was like, okay Tony's the man, how can I help him? To now 10 years later, a long time later, but 10 years later he comes back and does this really cool and it was amazing. So some of the results. We did the Facebook Live interview. We actually did it first on Skype because he just wanted to not have it live, live. In case, something bad happens. So we did live and he's like, “cool, you guys can run it.” So we took that and edited it real quick, chopped off the beginning and the end. Put it through an OBS, which is a streaming platform, and did a Facebook Live on Tony's page. We had 1.8 to 1.9 thousand people watching it the entire time. 5 hours into it, we had 70 thousand views and 3 or 4 hundred thousand reach. This morning it was 100 thousand views and close to a million reach. I think 19 thousand clicks have come from it. Which is crazy, if we were to buy a Facebook ad and get 19 thousand clicks, let's say it…I mean that's probably 20-30 grand in ad costs just to get that. And this is all coming organically from Tony's page, his recommendation. We're selling tons and tons of books. Then this virtual book tour, one of the cool things we're doing is with everyone, we're doing the Facebook Live on their page. So it lives on their fan page and then we're going in, their making us admin on their account and we're actually paying my money to boost their Facebook Live to their audience. So now we had the opportunity where they're allowing us to spend my money to promote to their audience, and now it's going out to all 2.2 million of his followers it's going to keep growing and growing. And my guess, next we'll have a million views on that video. It's just huge, it's a huge winner for us. We were going crazy celebrating and we continue to, and I was just so grateful. First off that Tony was willing to do that because he's so protective of his brand and everything. It means a lot to me that he was willing to do that. But second off, I just want you guys to realize that I can't tell you how many people a day that I meet that come in that are all about, you can tell as they look at you……I just assume it's what really good looking women struggle with, you meet a guy and you can tell that they don't really care about you, they're just interested in everything else. I get that a lot. It's hard. As soon as I meet people, even at the certified partner event, a couple of people I met, I was just like, I could tell I was a piece of meat. They were looking me up and trying to tell, this is how we're going to get this thing from him. It's just like, I hate that. Whereas, people I do deals with, similar to Ton or whatever, people who come in and genuinely care and serve and help and do stuff. Last year, I think we only promoted one person last year, Stu McLaren, why? Stu's awesome. For the last ten years of our life he's never once asked me for anything. He's always helped me and served me and given me cool opportunities to serve other people, just such a cool person. So when he came he was the only person we promoted for the last year. And this year we're probably not promoting anyone. It's just like, we don't need to do that. We don't have to do that. Tony didn't have to do that. It didn't help him at all. But the right people, it's like you're giving back to them from the relationship. If I can say anything to you guys, I would say start focusing on relationships without trying to figure out, what's the ROI in this relationship. I know that I'm very big on that. If you take the disc profile, I think it's the disc, one of the traits of, one of my traits, everything for me is ROI. What's the ROI of this conversation? What's the ROI of doing anything? If there's not an ROI I don't like doing it. But with relationships I try to not have an ROI. Just go into it and look at the other person as a human being as opposed to an investment. And just be like, how can I help this person? What do I got that can serve them? And if you do that from a real, not a fake standpoint where you're actually in it for the long con, but you're in it for, this dude's awesome. I want to help him. Good things will come to you, and that's how relationships are actually built. You don't get into relationships with people, typically where the first date you're trying to size them up and figure out what you get out of it. It's the one's where you're coming in and serving and turn it into amazing relationships. Especially when both people are serving, that's when the most magic happens. Anyway, there's a book called Dig Your Well Before You're Thirsty, I think it was Harvey Mckay? I don't know, I never actually read it, but I read the title and that's the gist I'm trying to share with you guys today. Dig your well before you're thirsty, because someday you'll be thirsty. Someday you're going to have a book launch in ten years from now or whatever that is. Because I dug that well, and I've been digging it for ten years, now when it comes, now it's actually happening. Same thing in this, it's interesting, this business for me was always, used to be all about reciprocation, people promote you if you promoted them. It's like 3 years ago when we launched Clickfunnels we said, we can't do that anymore. We just can't. Otherwise our business won't be able to grow. And it was scary for me, I was like how are we going to grow this company if I'm not reciprocating? Well how else can I reciprocate? So for the market, for partners, for everyone I'm like, I've got to reciprocate by just giving everything all the time. And what's crazy is people who are promoting this book launch, I look and there's some of my mentors, people who I look up to more than almost anyone. I look at Mark Joyner, my very first mentor. I look at Alex Mandossian. All these people helping us promote and none of them are doing it like, “Russell you promote me and I'll promote you back.” They're all doing it like “man, Russell you have given so much to whatever.” To them, to the community, or whatever and now they're promoting. It was insane. So I almost feel like, I always thought the only way to get to do that was through reciprocation and it kind of is true, but it's a different kind of reciprocation. Not just you promote me I'll promote you. It's like legitimately spend the next three years of your life seeing how you can serve your market and the people around you and people and just figure that out. And then when you do they'll say yes. And that's cool. That's really, really cool. So it was a big break through and hopefully it was good for you guys. So dig your well before you're thirsty. Build relationships without trying to get anything in return. And then in the long term who knows what will happen. But something might happen, whereas if you go the other way, nothing is going to happen. There you go, you guys. And the last thing I'll say is when you cultivate and build those relationships, that is the gift in and of itself. That's the ROI. I look at Mark Joyner, my first mentor, who we had come out for Funnel Hacker TV, we've worked with him. That relationship with him for me is huge. That was worth way more than any him promoting. You know what I mean? Just the benefits of that, getting to know him and being able to know him in a more personal level, was worth 10x more than him ever promoting for us. So I think that's the result. Getting deep in the relationship is the result, that's the ROI you're looking for, any other ROI's that come are just gravy. So focus on that relationship and how you can help people and that's the key. Anyway, I know that's not like marketing tactile, like what's the tactics? Here's the tactic, become really good friends with people and try to help them. It's not a sexy tactic, but it's the most important one. So there you go. Alright, I'm out you guys. Have an amazing day and I'll talk to you guys soon. Bye everybody.

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The Day That You Became…

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2017 14:51

Do you remember the day that you became? On this episode Russell talks about the moment he became a wrestler and how he felt and how that relates to the moment he became a marketer. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in this episode: Why Russell nearly became a basketball player instead of a wrestler and what changed his mind. What the four or five things Russell believes he is down to core. And why as humans, we are constantly in search of good feelings and how they shape our lives. So listen below to hear about the moment Russell became a wrestler, and the moment he became an internet marketer. ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, good morning. This is Russell Brunson and welcome to Marketing In Your Car. Sorry I'm stuttering, I'm actually on the freeway right now. Normally I do these things closer to my house so it's a little less chaotic. But this morning I had to get up early. And I didn't get to bed last night until almost 2 o'clock. Because we got Wynter Jones is in town and a couple of other people. So I have a good excuse to pull all nights, working on funnels. So we did last night and then I had to get up this morning because we had a film shoot at 6:30 at this amazing location we found down in Nampa, Idaho. It's kind of out in the ghetto and then you walk through the door and it's this amazing building with stone walls, Christmas lights hanging from the ceiling, it's amazing. A bunch of people who work for Disney, a bunch of animators in there, so it's a bunch of super creatives….whoa, crap. I'm on the freeway, some people stopping. Anyway, all these amazing creative people in there that are building, I don't know, movies and animations and stuff like that, a whole bunch of Macs, and smart people. It was really, really cool. So we filmed something in the basement there for Mark Joyner when we filmed his episode for Funnel Hacker TV, which is coming soon. We filmed in the basement because it was this really creepy, nasty basement. We filmed the sales video for Mind Control Marketing there and it turned out so cool. But I remember I was like, “Oh that upstairs was so cool. Someday I want to film in there.” So we were filming the book promo video for Expert Secrets and that's where we decided to film it at. So that's what we were doing this morning. We got there super early and we were trying to film before anybody woke up. And the crazy thing, I went to bed almost 2 o'clock and my alarm went off at 5:15 and I had two alarms, just in case I slept through them both. Anyway, at 5:45 I sat up and I was like, “What?” both of my alarms had turned off. I was like, “Oh my gosh.” So I had a freak out. I had to run and get ready and shower. I'm doing a juice fast this week, and luckily I didn't have time to eat because I couldn't eat. But I jumped in the car and raced down here, and I was a couple of minutes late. Then the guy who I guess Brandon said that he forgot to RSVP until we were actually coming. So the dude didn't show up. So Brandon's calling him at 6 in the morning. Luckily one of the employees showed up early and got us in. So we got in there and started filming and…..sorry, I'm pulling off the freeway exit right now. So we started filming and we only have like 30 minutes before their entire staff and team showed up for work. So we had to go fast. So we get everything set up, anyway, it turned out really cool. I'm excited to see what, how it all turns out. So you guys will see it soon on Expertsecrets.com, when the book is all done. But that's what's happening. I'm heading back from there. I'm super tired, so I might go home and take a nap for a little bit. Because we have another long day today of amazing stuff we're building out. Not only are we trying to get the Expert Secrets funnel done this week, we're also trying to get Super Funnel, Exit Funnel and a whole bunch of other cool things that all tie together for the whole launch. That's a story for another day. But that's kind of what's happening. So I had a message I wanted to share with you guys today because I thought it was interesting. I recorded a video yesterday, and I don't know about you but I, in Expert Secrets I talk about how everybody needs to build an index of stories you're going to have. You never know when you're going to use them and how you're going to use them. So a lot of times this podcast is a testing ground for me to tell a story. Then I tell stories at the office and I tell stories when I speak and in a million different places. It's funny, Brandon who has been filming me every day for the last two years, he was like, “dude that was a new story, I've never heard that one before.” I was like, “Really, I've never told that. It's been in my inventory of stories forever.” But apparently I never told it. So it was basically a story about the day that I became a wrestler. When I was growing up my dad was a wrestler, but I was going to be a basketball player, because that's what short, white guys do is we become basketball players. So every day I practiced basketball, and I knew that's what I was going to do and be. I don't want anything else besides being a basketball player. So that was kind of my, what I thought my future was going to be. And then my dad though, was a wrestler growing up and I guess I had wrestled for a year or two when I was, I don't know, 5 or 6 years old. But apparently my parents said I hated it. So I dropped out of it and was never going to do it again. But then, lo and behold, in 8th grade as I'm pursuing my basketball career, it was bad because I remember Spud Webb back then, was a little short guy who was shorter than me, but he could dunk. I was like, “If Spud Webb can dunk, then I can dunk.” And I never, I got taller than Spud Webb, but I still couldn't dunk. But that's a story for another day. Anyway, I thought I was going to be a basketball player, but one of my buddies two doors down from me, he went to wrestling practice and came home and started to tell my dad, “I went to wrestling practice today.” And my dad was like, “What? There's wrestling practice here? I'm a wrestler and my son's going to be a wrestler.” So that was kind of what happened. Sorry, I'm driving and doing three things and I keep dropping everything. So not what I should be doing. If you guys were watching, I'd probably be getting yelled at by someone. Anyway, so my dad was like, “We need to go to wrestling practice.” And he tried to get me to. I was like, “No, dad. I'm a basketball player. I'm not going to wrestle. Come on now. There's no wrestling in the NBA, how am I going to do this?” Finally my dad forced me to go to wrestling because he's like, “Nope, we're wrestlers in this family.” I was like, “What? I don't want to wrestle.” But he kind of made me go. That was 8th grade. So 8th grade I did wrestling and I kind of liked it but I was like, it's not basketball, come on now. So I just told my dad, “I'll wrestle right now but…” and the way school worked in Utah for me, 9th grade was basically junior high and 10th grade was high school. 9th grade had started and I was like, “Well, I'll do wrestling in 9th grade. But my sophomore year I'm going out for the basketball team because I'm a basketball player.” And he's like, “Okay, whatever.” So 9th grade I started wrestling and I start liking it, but not loving it. I remember my very first wrestle off, and the way wrestling works, it's kind of cool, it's not like the coach picks who's going to be first tier or second tier, all that kind of stuff. You wrestle and whoever wins, wins. So they line up all the weight classes, there's like 5 or 6 people in my weight class and then you have a wrestle off. So you wrestle everybody else to see if you're going to be first string, second string, third string. So there's one dude who is really good, he was varsity, then there was a JV guy and a couple of other guys and then there was me. So we all got to wrestle and the guy who had been JV the year before, I had him in a wrestling match and I was like, I had no plans of winning. I just thought, he's a high school kid, he's a man for crying out loud. I'm a little kid. Anyway, we wrestled and I beat him. And the coach is like, “Congratulations, you're going to be JV this week.” And I'm like, “What?” and he's like, “Yeah, you're going to wrestle in a tournament.” I'm like, “Are you kidding me?” So I go home and tell my parents. I'm like, “I beat the guy in the wrestle off.” My dad's like, “What?” and I'm like, “Yeah, I'm going to be wrestling this week.” And he was all excited obviously and told my mom and told, you know, everybody. Fast forward now a couple of days, it was the wrestling tournament, we were wrestling Bingham High School. I remember we get to weigh-ins and I'm a little tiny, skinny 130 lb kid at the time. So I get on the scale and you know, you strip down to your tighty-whities and you step on the scale and look at your weight. And then the guy who I'm wrestling gets on the scale, he steps up and I look at him and the dude had a mustache. I don't know about you, but to this day I can't grow a mustache. I'm not still not quite manly enough to do that. He had a mustache, and again this is in high school. I was like, “Are you kidding me? I'm a little kid. This guy in a mustache is going to destroy me.” I was so scared. So I remember after weigh-ins, we're getting warmed up and I see my dad and I'm like, “Dad, the guy I'm wrestling has a mustache.” And my dad's like, “What does that matter?” I'm like, “I don't know but he's like a real man Dad. I can't grow a mustache.” Anyway, I go out there for this match. I go out there I'm wrestling, I'm going through the whole match, I'm wrestling this guy and I don't remember much about the match. All I remember is at the end I won. I stood up and I shook his hands and I remember looking at him in the face and I was like, “I just beat a dude who's got a mustache.” And then the ref raised my hand. As soon as I raised my hand, my head went up and I look at the audience, it's the bleachers, and in the bleachers there's two people, my mom and my dad. My dad's standing up clapping and that day I became a wrestler. I was like, this is the greatest feeling I have ever felt ever. I never got that from basketball, never got it from anything else. I'm a wrestler, that day I became a wrestler. I was thinking about that. I was like, different parts of our life we identify with different things. For over a decade of my life, I was a wrestler. I still am in my mind. I identify with that, that's who I am. At my core, there's a few things I am, I'm a wrestler, I'm a Mormon, I'm a dad, I'm a husband, there's a couple of things and I'm an internet marketer. There are things, four or five things I really self identify and each of those situations, I know the day that I became that person. I know the day I became a wrestler. I know the day that I became a Mormon. I know the day that I became an internet marketer. And it's when you have that experience and you're just like, “Dang, that feeling, I never want to lose that feeling again. That was the greatest feeling in the world for me.” For my business, I remember when it was. I got online and I was trying all these things, you've probably heard my back story a million times. I was trying thing after thing after thing and all sorts of stuff and nothing was working. I remember the very first time I created something and put it out there and somebody bought it. And it was $20 and the $20 came to my Paypal account and I was like, “Dang.” I remember coming home and telling my wife, I had a Paypal credit card at the time. We had no money in the Paypal account, but i had a Paypal credit card. Someone bought and we had $20, and for me as a college kid, $20 was insane. I came home and told Collette, “We made our first sale.” And she's like, “What? You made a sale?” I'm like, “Yeah, someone paid us $20” and we were so excited we went out to dinner that night. And we used my Paypal credit card and paid for dinner. I mean, it wasn't a fancy place, probably Burger King or something, that is my favorite restaurant. But we went to Burger King or something and I think we went to a dollar movie. But it was like, I earned this. This is something, because at that point, my parents had supported me my whole life. My, I had Summer jobs, but I was wrestling all the time, so I never had a real job. Then I got married, my beautiful wife supported me. She was doing two jobs. For the first time in my life, I had created something that made money. That night, that dinner, that was mine. That was my gift to her. I created something that paid for that dinner. It paid for that movie. That night is when I became an internet marketer. I had that feeling. I love this feeling. I never want it to leave. I want that for the rest of my life. And then I became obsessed and passionate about it. So for you, I'm curious. I want you to think about it and hopefully it'll be fun for you to go back and think, but what was the day, think about whatever it is your business is, the thing that you're so passionate about giving and serving and sharing with people. What was the day that you became that person? That you became a wrestler, that you became a marketer, that you became a fitness coach, that you became whatever it is for you. What was the day that that happened? I want you to think about that, and that's my gift for you today. Because as I thought about it yesterday I was just like, what a cool experience. It's just cool. I hope that this gives you a minute to remember that time for you and enjoy it. Because that feeling is what drives you now. You had that feeling once and you want it again and again and again. I want you to remember that because it was interesting, when Tony Robbins came to Funnel Hacking Live he talked about why we do things and it all came down to basically we do things, everything for humans is about a feeling. We want that feeling. We want to feel good, we want to feel loved, but it's a feeling. That's why we do everything. That's why people turn to drugs, to try to get the feeling. That's why people turn to love, they want that feeling. That's why people turn to all, it's all about feelings. Sometimes we have a feeling and that's what drives stuff, but forget about it. We don't think about it, we don't….just remembering that feeling of me getting my hand raised yesterday, it was, it felt good. You forget about that. We're always racing for the next good feeling, but sometimes if you stop back and just think about the feeling you had, the day you became who you are, because that's the feeling you're chasing after every single day. That's honestly a feeling I chased for 12 years of my life while I was wrestling. That feeling of raising my hand and looking in the stands and seeing my dad, that was the feeling. That's why I woke up super early in the morning, that's why I stayed up late at night. That's why I cut weight week in and week out, day in and day out for years. It's the reason I got my eyes cut open. I had stitches, I had blood, the reason I sacrificed my body, my time, my energy, my effort, my everything, is because of that feeling. I wanted that again. So what's cool about us, as humans, we'll stop and remember we can get that feeling again. So today I want you guys to sit back and I want you to remember that feeling. And that's my gift to you. Just enjoy it for a little bit, before you go chasing it again, because it's there and you can remember it and you can bring it back. So I hope that helps you guys, it felt good for me today. Hopefully it felt good for you as well. And that's all I got. I'm almost back to the office, I'm going to let you guys go. Appreciate you all, have an amazing day, and talk to you guys soon. Bye everybody.

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The Strategy That Made Each Of Our Leads Worth 15X

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2017 14:44

Understanding the difference between strategy and tactics can mean everything in your business. On today's episode Russell shares the difference between tactics and strategy after an attendee at Funnel Hacking Live complained about the content of day one. He tells why strategy is the key and tactic is just an element. Here are some interesting things to listen for in this episode: Why an attendee at Funnel Hacking Live was unhappy with day one at the event, and why he's not seeing the gold Russell has given him. Why it's important to know the difference between tactics and strategy. And how if you follow an overall strategy, the tactics will still be there, but you can earn 15x more money. So listen below to hear what someone else had to say about Funnel Hacking Live, and why Russell thinks he's wrong. ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell, I am out taking the garbage out, Sunday night. And it's a beautiful night, a little chilly, but looking out there's a really cool ski hill called Bogus Basin here in Idaho. Anyway, where my house is at and I'm taking garbage out, I go out and I can see the mountain and the mountain is all dark and where the ski hill is, is all lit up and looks insanely cool. So that's kind of fun right now. But I had a quick message for you guys because I just wanted to make sure everyone's paying attention. Because I feel like sometimes you can show people gold. Be like, “Hey, here's gold. You want some?” and the smart people see that and they're like, “Oh sweet.” And they take it. And there's other people who say, “That's not real gold. I didn't want gold. I wanted platinum. I came for diamonds, why are you trying to give me gold.” I'm like, “Dude, there's gold. You can sell it and buy diamonds.” So let me explain this metaphor. Funnel Hacking Live last week, insane. Those of you there, you know, you experienced it. It was just amazing. And we're starting planning next year's and I think I finally figured out a way, took me three days, but I think I figured out a way to make it better than last time. I'm not sure yet, but I'm excited to try. That's going to be in time, I got a year to plan it, so that's going to be sweet. But it was an awesome event and of the three days, day one was probably my favorite day because I think what I got to share got me most excited. I shared the first section of the book, which is how to build a mass movement. Went into all the strategy and the tactics behind how to do that. I wanted to break those out, because there's two different things, strategy and tactics. Then I had a chance to go into the story. We talked about epiphany bridge stories. I showed the strategy and tactics behind that. Then Brandon and Kaelin spoke the first day. Jim Edwards spoke the first day, it was awesome. All the days were good, but the first day was, I was most excited about what I taught the first day. Anyway, that was good, I thought. For those who were there, it was good right? Pretty amazing? It's basically a year, more than a year, deep year of my thought, what I've been trying to really show and teach and coach everybody through. And what the new book's going to be really going deep into. So it was also a big preface for the Expert Secrets book which is coming out April 18th. So anyway, most people were there and they got that and went and ran away with it. But then one of my buddies, one of my friends showed me the other day some post that one of the guys at the event posted in his private members area. I know who this guy is, I've been watching him for a while, he's been doing some cool things. But his business isn't that big yet, he's kind of……I won't make fun of him publicly, I might later. We'll stop for now. In his members group he posted, he said, “Day one of Funnel Hacking Live was stupid. Not a single tactic was taught. Blah, blah, blah.” Dropped like 5 or 6 F-bombs in this thing. I was just like, I'm glad it was after the event, because I would have called the dude out on stage and embarrassed him in front of everyone, which would have been amazing. I kind of wish I had that now. But instead I saw it like two days ago. I was like, “What? Day one?” It's funny, day two he came up to me afterwards and said, “I'm joining your Inner Circle, man. This has changed my life.” Did the whole thing. By the afternoon day two he had a change of heart, but after day one he was frustrated apparently because I didn't teach enough tactics. So a couple of things. First off, what you must understand is that tactics are good. Tactics are like the tricks you use to do things. But tactics in and of themselves are not that powerful. In fact, I think, when I first met Jay Abraham and Rick Shephard and the guys, they used to talk about this. Talk about how strategy is more important than tactics, and I used to think that were not smart. Because I'm like, “No, these tactics, these tricks, these tools, these things are the secret.” And as I've gotten older, in my old age, and I've shifted from being stuck at 2 or 3 million dollars a year, to shifting to 30 million dollars a year and beyond. Hopefully this year we'll hit 80 or 90 million, and mass growth. Bigger than anyone I know of in our industry. The big differentiation that took me from 2 or 3 million dollars a year to ten time that, it wasn't the next tactic. It was the strategy, the strategy behind it. As I'm on stage teaching how to build a mass movement, I'm talking about the strategy of how you build a mass movement. This is how you get people to follow you, this is how I went from 3 million dollars, to two years later 30 million dollars in a year. The difference was not a magic tactic. And I showed tactics, I showed the different tactics, but it was the core strategy. When you understand the strategy there's a lot of tactics inside of it, but understand the strategy is the key. So we're showing the strategy to everybody and I'm just hoping that you guys weren't like this dude looking at this gold and being like, “but I came here for diamonds.” Dude, are you kidding me, take the gold I give you and go sell it and buy some diamonds if that's what you really want. Don't miss out on the lesson because you came thinking you were looking for something else. If there's someone that's showing you something, don't be like….I was the same way. So I'm throwing myself as being guilty of this too. When I first talked to Shephard and Abraham, those guys who were way ahead of me strategically thinking, I used to make fun of them thinking they were dumb. Just like this guy was doing for me. I'm like, no when I understood it; I respected and understood that I gotta figure out the strategy. The tactics are always there, the tactics will fit inside of any strategy, but the strategy is the key. That's what expands your growth. And then, come on now, epiphany bridge story, the hero's two journeys, that's all tactical. Come on now. I'll leave that there. What I wanted to talk about is, as I was thinking through this, is I want to kind of tie in the tactic and strategy and all that kind of stuff. When I got started, whenever it was, 14 years ago, my first mentor was Mark Joyner, he always told me, “You gotta build a list, you gotta build a list.” Which is a strategy right. At the time there were a whole bunch of different strategies people were chasing. There was AdSense stuff, The was Google AdWords, there was Arbitros, there were all these different ways to make money. And Mark was my first mentor and luckily I listened to him by the shiny objects flying around me like crazy. So I started building a list, building a list, like he told me to. And I did that and it was funny, a couple years later Mike Filsaime came out with, he kind of coined this originally, a lot of people say it since, but the first time I heard it, it was from Mike. He said, “You should average one dollar per month, per name on your email list.” I was like, okay, that's a cool metric. I started looking back at what I was doing and it was interesting how close my business at that point had followed that. I had a thousand people on my list, I was making about a thousand a month, when I had ten thousand on my list I made ten thousand a month, when I had a hundred thousand on my list I was making a hundred thousand a month. It was eerie. Is that a word? How close that number stayed. For me, I started focusing on the strategy is building a list. What are the tactics to build a list? I kept focusing on tactic, tactic, tactic to build a list. My list kept growing and my income would grow with it, but I didn't have the huge shift. When we started shifting, I was telling this, last week, I can't remember if I told you guys this or not. Dean Graziosi did this big book launch and he invited the top ten or fifteen affiliates to his office. So I flew down there Thursday and hung out, it was amazing. It was an amazing group. I could go on for days about all the people and what I learned. I got some amazing stuff that I will show you guys in the next few months. If you watch, you'll see some of the stuff I learned from that group. But what was interesting is, when I got there to talk, they wanted me to talk 30 minutes on whatever I thought was the biggest, most impactful thing in my business over the last few months. What did I share with them? I shared building a cult-ure. I talked about the three things. The thing I talked about first session of our group, we talked about charismatic leader, future based cause, and then new opportunity, which is the key. That's the core strategy. What's interesting is, I wasn't planning on talking but when I got up on stage, I don't know if you've done this when you've gotten on stage. Things pop into your head sometimes, so I got up in front of this group and the first thing that popped into my head was the Send out Cards event I went to 7, 8 or 9 years ago. I remember going to this event all excited to learn network marketing and see how these guys do everything. And I was confused when I got there, to be honest. Nobody taught anything. I remember, the first day they gave awards to almost everyone in the group and they had people win cars, they had recognition, told stories, people crying about how sending cards changed their lives. And it was so confusing to me. I remember afterwards sitting there talking to David Frey, he probably doesn't even remember this, but it had a huge impact on me. I was like, “Dude, nobody taught anything.” And he said, “You know what the craziest thing is Russell? They're a software company. That's it. They're a software, but what have they done different? What was the strategy?” The tactic is how to build a software company, but what is the strategy? He didn't say that, but I was thinking what is the strategy? And we started talking and he said, “They're a software company, but look what they built around it, it's a movement. There's people, this is a way of life for people now.” And I was thinking about it, send out cards, I love the guys who own that, it's a cool company, but their software is not that good. There are thousands of better card editors out there. But they built a movement of people and that's why that company did so well. So when I was launching Clickfunnels that kept ringing in my head from David Frey. They're just a software company. I'm like, “I'm building a software company.” I could have gone, what's the tactic to build a software company. No, step back. What's the strategy? How do these guys do it? They didn't say, let's build a software company. That wasn't what they were doing; they were looking at the strategy of it. So as we launched Clickfunnels, I knew we were going to compete against, Infusionsoft, Leadpages, and all these crappy software products, and I was like, I don't want this to become a battle of who's got what feature. I want to build a movement. I want people, I want to build the best software in the world, and luckily I've got the partners that are able to do that, which is insanely cool. But I was like. Even if our software sucked, I still gotta out market everyone else. Because I want them to follow us because we're a movement, not because we're a software company. If you were at Funnel Hacking Live, you remember Ryan Montgomery, our CTO, he got up there and said, “hey guys, we're not a technology company, we're a marketing company. We're building technology, the technology behind it to make us be able to market, which gives you the ability to market.” That's the big differentiator, that's why we're taking on the SASS companies that are fighting us on features and we're thrashing them because we're building a movement. And that's the strategy. So I started looking at that, and I looked at our numbers over the last two years, and what's funny, is for 8 years in my business, our metrics were one dollar per name per month on our list. And I look at our numbers now and I gotta do the math real quick in my head. But we are closer to probably 14 or 15 dollars per name per month on our email list. So we 15x'd it. Same people, same list building tactics to get people in, but the strategy shifted. What happened when we shifted the strategy? 15x, instead of one dollar per name per month on our email list, we make $15 per name per month on our email address, by shifting the strategy and the strategy was how do we build a movement? We're not a software company, we're building a movement. I wanted people coming to Clickfunnels like they came to Send out Cards on stage crying because they send a card and it changed someone's life. I don't want them coming and talking about how much money they made. That's the difference. I just wanted to share that because I know sometimes we get caught up in what's the new tactic. Some of my close friends are running an event this weekend coming up, and the difference, you go to that event and what do they do. There's all these people on stage sharing tactics, and some people love that, but that's not what wins wars. Tactics are the gun and the shot gun and rifle that you go out there, but if you got a bad strategy you're going to lose. So take a step back, look at the strategy and understand that, and hopefully this helps you understand the difference between strategy and tactics. How the tactics are good, but you switch to strategy and get that correct, 15x growth, going from 3 million to 30 million in 24 months. What's the difference? It's not changing my tactics, the tactics were all the same, it was the strategy behind it. I hope that you guys get that. With that said, my fingers are freezing. I should have worn gloves out here. I'm going back inside. Appreciate you all, tomorrow I'm going to go finish…..Friday I spent the whole day recording the audio version of the Expert Secrets book and tomorrow I'm going to finish the last third. I drive out there, I have a message I want to share with you guys, but I'll save that for tomorrow. Thanks everybody, have a great night and we'll talk to you guys soon.

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The Sport We Call Business

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2017 16:54

Understand who you're competing against in this game, or else you're going to lose. On today's episode Russell talks about looking at competing in business the same way he would compete during his wrestling days. He views business as a sport and he has figured out how he's going to beat the competition. Here are some of the fun things in this episode: How being an athlete on the playground has prepared Russell to go against his competition in business. How an underdog can still beat the company on steroids (venture capitalists). And why you need to start looking at business like a sport if you're ever going to be able to beat the other guys. So listen below to find out why Russell is in it to win it when it comes to business. ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson, I hope you guys are doing good. I'm actually taking the trash out right now. That's what that wheeling sound, that's the trashcan being wheeled. But this is going to be a crazy week. I thought I'd hang out with you guys before I get started on it. Tomorrow is Monday morning, and Monday is basically the week before Funnel Hacking Live starts. Technically it starts on Tuesday, but Pre-registration starts a week from tomorrow. So Tomorrow is when I get to start doing all my presentations. Yes, I wait til the last week to do my presentations. You want to know why? Because the stuff we were doing six months ago, even a month ago has changed. So I want to make sure I have the most up to date content of all time at any given moment. That's the reason why. That's one of the reasons. The other reason is I just haven't had time. But that's plenty of time to get everything done and make it amazing. I know what I'm going to talk about, I just gotta get all the slides and examples and case studies and all that kind of stuff and put it together in a really cool way. Hopefully you guys can hear me. It's kind of loud, the trashcan. But I am….hold on a second I'm going to… Alright, this might be the only episode of Marketing while you're taking the trashcan out. I'm out here and it's cool, it's super dark, we just got new neighbors that built a house across the street. We're on a really dark street where there's not lights at all. Their house is lit up really cool and the moon is….I wish you could see it. It's pitch black, it's way off in the distance, right above the mountains there's this glowing thing that looks misty and foggy over it. It's pretty amazing. Anyway, I'm excited because all the snow has been melting that we've had. We've had so much snow this winter. Then it rained three days last week and it all melted. And we're back to where I can see the grass everywhere and it's so exciting. Anyway, tonight was really fun, we went to church and then had meetings after church and then went out with the kids, went and played in the wrestling room, jumped on the tramp which is freezing cold, then jumped in the hot tub which is super warm and now we put them to bed. My wife's actually in there putting them to bed. I snuck out to put out the trash because they wear me out those little buggars. I love them, but they wear me out. Anyway, Funnel Hacking Live is a week away, which is crazy. It's interesting, last week we had our FHAT event, here in Boise in our new office, which is super fun and I just have this bad habit of booking way too many things all at the same time. But it's been fun. There's something with finishing the book and creating everything for the FHAT event, and everything for the Funnel Hacking Live event, where all these concepts and things we're talking about right now are becoming so clear. I don't know if you guys have done that where you've had the chance to go through a really deep immersion. It's weird all these connections get made that don't when you're dabbling and goofing around. That's why I think people should go really deep when they're becoming a master at what they're trying to do. You know, become unbalanced for a while, spending insane amounts of time. But it's been interesting, one of the fun things I've been thinking about. My dad came to town last weekend as well, which is awesome. I was thinking about business as a whole, it's such a weird I don't know, playground is the word that pops in my head, I don't know if that's the right word. It's this weird playground where you go to school, and there's all these different types of kids. There's the athletes over here, then there's the people that are in band, and then there's the drama kids, and then there's the skaters, and then there's…..there's all these different groups at the playground. When you typically go out there, you go and play with the people that fit in your mold. So I go play with the athletes. We play basketball, football. Competing against each other, trying to win. That's what drove us at recess, but I'm guessing the other groups probably didn't do that. They were, I don't know what the other groups were doing. But I'm assuming, because we would play games with all the kids, but as I got older, I focused on wrestling and that became my thing and it was a deep passion of how do I become the best. At first I wanted to be the best in the state. After I was State Champ I was like, I want to be best in the country. And my senior year of high school I took second place in the country. Then I was like, I want to be the best in college, in the country. And I never hit that goal. I guess technically I didn't hit the best in the country in high school either, I almost, I was two points away from that. College I was like, I want to be an all American, I want to be a national champ, and I didn't get those goals, but I always knew that's the person I have to beat. I was aware of them, I looked at them and I watched their matches and I studied them and looked what they were doing and I understood them. I understood their moves and what drove them so that I could beat them. And I was always aware of the people I had to beat. And that was just like, as an athlete, how I viewed the world and business, not business but things. I mean, for almost two decades of my life, that's what it was. Here's where I'm at, who's above me, I gotta find those people, figure them out, and beat them. And that's what I understood. And I always assume that that's how everybody thought. But I guess, back at the playground, I'm guessing the band kids didn't do that. They hung out and played music together, they had a good time. The drama kids, they made plays together and had a good time. And then the skaters, they skated. You know, I don't know all the different cliques and stuff, but everybody did their thing. I always assumed that everyone thought the way that I did. Because that was the only world I knew. And it's been interesting as I've come into business, because for me business was the next sport. I got into business, I mean I was learning about it in college when I was wrestling. My senior year, I didn't hit my goals. I fell short, and in fact I didn't even qualify for the national tournament, which destroyed me. And it would have destroyed me if I didn't have the next thing. For me, business I was dabbling in and that became my next sport. It was like, here's the sport, I got to figure out. And it's interesting, the concepts of funnel hacking and the stuff that I share with people, you know how I always talk about I look at people successful and I model them, and I did, but it was different from that. For me it was a sport, I came in and this is the….I'm on a new playground looking around. Who are the kids that are winning? And the people I saw at the time were Armand Morin, Alex Mandossian, Mark Joyner, David Frey, these are all the guys I saw who were successful. So for me it was like, okay what are those guys doing? It was just like wrestling. I would look at them, scout them, watch them, study and learn and figure out what makes them tick. And then when I understand that, then I go and compete against them. In wrestling I have a match, and someday I'm going to come face to face, we're going to walk out on the mat under the lights. I'm going to put my shoes on and it's going to be me and them and that's it. And if I haven't done my homework, I'm going to look like an idiot. But in business it was weird because I would study these guys and try to figure out how to compete with them and be successful like they were and that was my whole thing, and I was racing towards that. But what's weird in business, we never got that moment where we step on the mat and shake hands and go and find out who prepared more. It was weird, I became friends with people and our businesses were together and I learned this cooperation stuff that I'm guessing they probably taught at the playground with the kids in the band, and the kids, the other groups that all played together. For business it was fun because I collaborated and I had that, but in my mind, I don't know about you, but I always had from day one….I remember actually, I don't know if I've ever publicly said this out loud, but for me, I've always been very aware of where I visualize myself in the totem pole in my market, where are people at? Where up and down, that's just how my brain works. And when I pass somebody, I'm aware of that. And when I know who's ahead of me, I'm aware of that. When I know that, I study those people, I figure them out and I try to beat them. That's just how I'm wired. It's been interesting, as I've gotten into, as our business has been growing, I would say in our market, I don't think there's any businesses that are really bigger than us right now. Outside of a couple of companies that have taken on venture capitalists. They've got millions of dollars dumped into them, which is the equivalent of steroids. Honestly, in sports that cheating, but business it's like, “Aww yes, someone gave us 14 million dollars, now we can cheat.” It's just ridiculous. For me, I'm looking out and we've got these dudes that got steroids, they're cheating, but I got to compete against the, but I'm very aware. In my mind it's very clear, the companies I'm going after. And it shouldn't be too hard for you guys that follow me to know, because we make fun of them a lot. But I'm aware of it, I study and figure out what they're doing right and wrong, what the weaknesses are and then we're attacking them. It's been interesting because as I've been doing that, the kids at the playground who grew up in band class, and that grew up in drama and as skaters and all these other things, they're not used to it. And those are the guys I'm competing against. And it's interesting because they don't handle the heat well. We got in a…… For me this is a sport. Business is nothing but a sport for me. It's like, who do I need to beat? We're going and attacking and we're going to beat them. Otherwise, what's the point of this whole thing? Yes, we're helping people and that part is amazing on this journey. But there's not, that's who I need to beat, what's the point of it? It's hard for me otherwise. Anyway, someone that I kind of ruffled their feathers, I actually thought through this podcast, interestingly enough. But they messaged me and kind of told me off, because they didn't like what I'm doing. Because I'm aggressive and I'm not playing like they're used to playing. What they told me, they said my dad taught me never to burn bridges. And I didn't send this back, but I wanted to. I thought, that's interesting because my dad taught me how to win and that's all that matters to me, is winning. Anyway, I told that story at the FHAT event, and people thought I was pretty, everyone was laughing. But that's how I feel. I'm very aware of who I am going after. And I don't publicly. In fact, Dan Usher is here making some videos for us and I was showing the offer we're creating, there's one other person who's had more success in this, I'm not going to say their name. But there's one person who's had more success than me in this field where this book is. And I was showing Dan those videos and I was like, “That's who I'm going against. That's who I'm competing against. That's who we have to beat.” He's like, “I thought you guys were friends.” And I'm like, “We are friends, but it doesn't matter.” I was friends with people on the wrestling mat, but when it comes to sports I have to win. I'm going after them. I'm not sitting around and trying to be nice. My goal is to win. Flat out. And I want to make sure that everybody understands that. What's cool, is during this process I'm making friends and all these kinds of things, but it's a sport for me. Very clear cut. This is a sport. And I have people I'm competing against and I'm going to win. And it's interesting, because these other people aren't used to that, and they are used to that, they've never been under the lights, with your shoes tied up and it's you and them and no one else going head to head. And I am, I'm used to it. I love it, I thrive off it. I need it, I desire it. I crave for that. So it makes this game interesting because the way that people are beating us right now is through the most part, venture capitalists, steroids. So it just drives me more. Yes, okay. You're going to cheat with steroids, that's fine. I'm still going to win, I'm going to take you down and we're going to choke you out and we're going to turn you to your back and you're going to get pinned. And that's how I view business. I just want, I don't know, I want to instill that into you guys. A lot of you guys out there were athletes, you were the kids on the playground who went through that and experienced it, and that's your drive. For some of you guys it's not. You have to understand when you step in the business world, that's who you're playing against. You're playing against athletes. People who that's their goal. So when I come, when you come into your business and look at your market, you need to be fully aware. Where do you sit on the totem pole? Are you JV or Varsity? First team or second team? Where in the state or country? Because if you're not aware of that, how do you win if you don't know who you're playing against? Somebody told me the other day, after the FHAT event, “One thing I discovered after being around you for the last three days is how aware you are of all the competitors in your market.” And I thought it was interesting, because I am very, very aware. I know what they're all doing. I'm watching them. And the things that I like, we use. And the things we don't, we counter attack against them. You'll see more and more of that throughout this year as we are aggressively going after our competitors and we're going to surpass them through raw talent and skill instead of venture capitalists cash, which is amazing. You know, I wrestled kids that were on steroids before and it's interesting, they come out and have big muscles. They huff and puff and usually the first 30 seconds to a minute they are really strong, but what I've found with the big dudes on steroids, when you choke them, you snap their head down and block the blood, there's a carotid artery in their neck, if you squeeze that and block the blood to their carotid artery, instantly in the second they go down. Their muscles become weak and they become soft like jelly. And the stronger they were, the weaker they become. That's what I've found. Not that you guys care, but when I wrestled big people. I count out muscles first, and if I can't take them down, I have to get their head below me and do a front headlock; we're going for a choke, cut the blood off from the brain, not long term but just for a second or two. But as soon as you do that, all your muscles lose energy, they stop, you fall and then we attack and we win. It's similar. Anyway, that's just….there's some…what's the book, The Art of War? This is the Art of War by Russell Brunson. That's the strategy, how it works. We've talked before in a podcast, how you know when your opponents break. When you're out there wrestling someone, you push them and you feel, physically feel them break. Their energy stops, their posture, their whole body stops. That's when you attack harder and faster and bigger, that's how you beat people that are bigger and stronger than you. That's what happening and I hope you guys are enjoying watching it. I'm having so much fun competing. I don't know about you but I love seeing the underdogs win. I love seeing the dude who's got better technique beat out the guy on steroids, every single time. I'm calling my shot, that's the plan, that's what's happening. I hope you guys do the same thing. Become aware of who your competitors are. You don't have to be jerks about it, I'm probably too jerky sometimes, I apologize for that in advance. But be aware of it and understand that, and run this like a sport. If you do that, that's how you're going to win. Because this playground, nobody cares. Nobody cares, I grew up in band, I grew up in drama, I grew up in whatever. Okay, well you're still competing against the athletes. And if the athletes want to win, they're going to win. So be very aware of that, going into it. When you're inside of it, start shifting your mindset to understand that and it'll become fun. It becomes a game, becomes a sport. I always tell people, this is one of the greatest sports ever. It's exciting. That's all I got for tonight. With that said, I'm done. It's freezing cold out here, I'm going to go inside and get warm. And for those of you guys going to Funnel Hacking Live in a week, I will see you soon. I cannot wait. Appreciate you all, and I will talk to you soon.

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Funnel Confessions

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2017 17:30

A quick glimpse behind the scenes of what I'm really doing to build and launch my funnels. On this episode Russell talks about being the contractor of your business and finding awesome people to do the work you need to get done. He also talks about failing and why you should expect to fail many times before you find something that works. Here are some of the informative things you will hear in today's episode: How Russell realized that his role in his company is similar to that of the contractor building his new office. Why on average it takes 12 failures before millionaires are successful and it's not based on luck. And what the concept “You're just one funnel away” really means. So listen below to find out why finding good people and failing is actually really important in building a successful business. ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing In Your Car. Sorry, I just get excited. Anyway, it's crazy here. We've had 5 snow days in a row, but today the kids finally, finally got to go back to school, which is nice. But everything is soaking wet. It's been raining and flooding. Our house flooded. We have a lot of damage. So that's kind of a nightmare. But the good news is we just went to the new office and it's getting close to done. We're about two weeks away from moving into it, which is the most exciting thing in the world. And as we're sitting here in the office, and I thought about it last night. Last night I finished, I finished! What? I finished the Expert Secrets book. At least this round of it. This is the most painful round of edits thought. It took a lot of time. I have one more round of edits after this, but it'll go away faster. So I'm pretty much, for all intents and purposes done with the Expert Secrets book, I'm so proud of it. The crazy thing is it's almost, its within like 100 words of the Dotcom Secrets book, which is weird. That was not planned, but it's kind of cool too. So when I got done with that it was 1 in the morning, so I started looking at all the cool projects we have. We use Trello, some of you guys know. James Friel got us set up on Trello, so I was thinking of the projects. So I sat down and I'm like, “Who are all the people involved in getting this project done? What are all the talks?” So I sat down last night and just busted out a whole bunch of Trello cards. Assigning people, getting them doing what they're supposed to be doing. All the pieces. Then it was done and I went to bed and passed out and it was awesome. Anyway, I was thinking about that versus how some of you are running your business and I want to just liken this also to the new office. I'm in a new office and the contractor dude is there, and he's kind of showing us everything and what's interesting as I look at this, is that the contractor didn't actually do anything really. If you think about it, right? He was sitting there and he got paid by me, I think, I don't know how much contractors take, 10, 20, 30% or whatever, they get paid a bunch of money. So we pay him and he's like, “Cool.” So then he goes and is like, “Alright, we need a designer.” And hires a designer. And he's like “Oh, we need someone to do this part.” And he hires someone. And all the contractor's really good at doing is just knowing what are all the pieces that need to go into launching, or to completing and building, and then hopefully he's put in time to find really good sub-contractors to do each of those pieces. And that's it. And he gets paid the lion's share of the project. And all he's doing is he's just figured out what are all the pieces that go into building an office, or house or whatever the project is. And then who are all the people I need to hire to do those pieces. I was thinking about that, for me with our funnels and stuff, that's all it is. Because I've done it so many times, I've done this now I think I'm on my thirteenth year or so of this business. Some people are funny, “How come all the things you do are successful.” The reason why is because I built up a really good team of people over the last 12 years. I look at myself almost like the contractor in my business. I know all the pieces that go into us successfully launching something. I don't have to rethink that, I just know it. It's second nature now because I've done it so many times. There was a time and a season of my life where we were literally launching something at least once a month and if that once a month thing would fail, we would do one every single week until one didn't fail because that's how we had to pay payroll. It was a nightmare, but we launched things all the time. Because of that, I know the process. I know that to get something launched here all the things. I know everything inside of my head. And because I've been doing it so long, every single time I'm finding, initially it was me doing everything. But then I realized I'm not very good at design, so I hired a designer. Then I realized this and I hired…..I probably hired a hundred designers in the last 12 years. Now I know 3 or 4 that I really liked and I now I just work with those 3 or 4 people. I probably hired a hundred website builders. I hired a hundred programmers, probably a thousand programmers. I've done all these things over the years, and from that I've got my hands full of 4 or 5 favorites. So when I know I have a project done, I know Rob's going to do this, so and so's going to do this, boom, boom, boom. I task the whole thing out and everyone starts working on it. And what's cool for me, as the contractor, this isn't true in all cases, but in the building, the people can't frame the building until the person is finished doing the foundation. There's things that have to go in order. With what we do in our business, most people can do their thing independent of everyone else. The video guy can do videos independent of everyone else. The designers can do that. The copywriters, everyone do the thing indepently. The goal is getting everyone to start on all the pieces as soon as humanly possible. Everyone is doing the pieces and they start coming in and then the last step, which for me as a person is my favorite part, so I do it now. But I could have outsourced the part. For me it's like, here's all the pieces now, these are all the things I needed to get this funnel done, now I just need to plug them all in. Because of Clickfunnels, I just plug them in. And obviously I work with Steven Larsen on my team. We plug all the pieces in and it's ready to launch. But if you look at all the projects I have, what's interesting is I've got the next probably 10 funnels completely done. Front end project is done, everything is done. I just have to, all the assets are sitting in Trello boards finished just waiting for me to say, “Okay, I'm ready to launch this one.” Then I login, spend a day and plug all the pieces in and boom it's ready to go. In fact, yesterday we were working on the Funnel University Newsletter, if you're not a member of Funnel University yet, by the way, you're insane. Go to funnelu.com. Anyway, we were…. I got a……are you kidding me? Road closure. Dangit. There's some huge pot holes up here. Okay, so now I'm on a road closure and I'm going through a neighborhood and I have no idea. Dang, I'm really bad at these kind of things. I'm so bad at directions. I'm just going to follow the headlights in front of me and pray they're going the same direction I'm going. Anyway, where did I leave off? So yesterday we were doing January's Funnel University Newsletter and in the newsletter I was showing the Marketing In Your Car funnel, which we reacently launched and you have all seen. The strategy behind it, the marketing in your car funnel was a couple of reasons. One was to get you guys all indoctrinated listening to Marketinginyourcar.com every single day. That was number one, number two is to get more subscribers. Number three, this was actually our core reason, is I'm trying to get people to join Funnel University. You probably saw that in the upsell sequence. Yesterday in the newsletter I was showing how basically if you look at probably the next dozen funnels we roll out, they will be new, cool front ends to help build our cult-ture and get people excited about Clickfunnels. So different swag things, different cool things, but then the upsell sequence is all pushing, the upsell sequence is identical, it does not change. So I literally in 40 minutes, and I record the whole process, all the Funnel U. Members will be able to see it inside the new forum we're setting up for you guys. I took the Marketing In Your Car funnel and cloned it. I already had the video done, I already had the graphics. Everything was already done weeks ago, months ago actually. I just drag and drop, boom, boom, in 40 minutes the new funnel is ready to launch and it was done. It came because I knew, whatever, 6 months ago, that I wanted to do a project called Funnel Graffiti. I knew, in fact, it's been almost a year, because we gave out funnel Graffiti at the last Funnel Hacking Live event, so it's been a year. So then we filmed the video this summer. But I tasked all this stuff out a long time ago, so it's all sitting there done and as soon as I'm ready to launch it, it was done. So it took 45 minutes to launch this funnel because I had all these things done. So that's the powers, if all of us as marketers start looking more at our business as we're contractors as opposed to the actual sub-contractor working, and you can sub-contract out to yourself, especially the stuff you like to do, I'm guessing if you're like me, you like building stuff in Clickfunnels, so sub-contract that out to you or a certified partner or whatever. But look at yourself more as a contractor, and become a master at understanding what are all the pieces that go into launching a funnel. And the funny thing is that the only way to know all the pieces that go into launching a funnel, is by launching a funnel. In fact, I try to get this through people's minds all the time. Because everyone thinks their first funnel is going to be a winner, right. So they create this funnel and go through all the pain and heartache and headache that go through making your first funnel. And there's a lot. You have to figure out how to write copy, to edit pages, and images and videos and orders and products. There's so much crap that goes into your first one and then it's horrible. And most of the time your first one will fail, you will not make any money. In fact, most of the time you will lose money. It'll be a bucket of money with a hole in the bottom and the cash will be pouring out of it. But you have to be okay with that because the only way for you to learn every single step in the process, for you, is to do it once. Always tell people that the first funnel, you're going to spend so much time and effort, and it might fail. In fact, you're probably going to fail but you gotta be okay with that. Because it's not about you launching this funnel and making a bunch of money, its about you as a new contractor, a new funnel builder learning a new process, all the pieces that go into that. Because after you do it once you're like, “Dang, well now I know I need this and this. I hired these people, this guy sucked and this one was awesome. I'm not going to hire him again, I'm going to hire a new person.” And you keep doing that over and over again and eventually after you launch three, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty funnels, whatever that is, you will have your dream team of people that are working with you. You will know exactly who to go to every single time. And if you fast forward six months to a year from now, you're going to be in the same situation I am. I don't fail anymore because I know our team. I know what our market wants. I know who is going to do each piece of it, so I can quickly create something and just have it work really, really quickly. For you guys that's the goal. I had two interviews yesterday from people that were asking about the whole “You're just one funnel away” concept, that's the theme of this year's Funnel Hacking Live event. And I wanted, during those interviews I explained, “Look, you're just one funnel away, you don't know which funnel that is. I wish I could show you guys the landscape of failed funnels that I've had in my 12 years in this business.” I've got more failed funnels that I could show you, than I guarantee most of you guys have ever even dreamt of attempting. But because of that, that's how I built my team. How I figured out what didn't work. I've mastered the process. All the pieces that go in there like the back of my hand. I don't have to think anymore, it just happens. So today, excuse me, last night I was like, “here's the project, here are all the pieces.” I tasked them all out and now everyone's working on them. I'm not sure when we'll launch that project, but I do know that the second I'm ready for it, all the pieces will be there and I don't have to think about it at that point. I'm digging my well before I'm thirsty. I'm getting all the things in place. So think about that you guys. Again, this whole concept, “You're one funnel away” Is so powerful. You don't know which funnel it's gonna be. You've gotta keep building, walking, trying, failing, moving forward. A really cool, I might have shared this with you guys before so forgive me if I have, but it's worth repeating. Probably almost ten years ago now, maybe even more, I got this Jay Abraham course and I was listening to it. And one of the speakers was Brian Tracey. I had never heard Brian Tracey speak before and he was on stage, and it was just, I loved what he was saying. I remember what he talked about; he said that one day he was watching this TV show with a bunch of millionaires. It was like a news talk show or whatever. There's like twelve millionaires on stage and they were interviewing them and asking a bunch of questions. And the host asks a question, “How many times did you guys have to fail on average before you had success?” and they didn't know off the top of their heads, so they cut to commercial. During the commercial break they did all the math and figured it out. They came back, and this panel of people, they said that they figured on average, they'd each failed about 12 times before they had success. Brian Tracey said something interesting, he said, “Do you think that they just tried something and failed, tried something and failed. And on average the 12th time they got lucky and it finally worked? Or do you think that the first time they did it, they didn't have the resources or the connections, or people, or idea or whatever, but they did it and it failed. The second one, they did it and it failed. The third, they did it and it failed. Each time they failed they learned something. And they figured something out and literally by the 12th time, they had failed every way possible.” By the 12th time they knew how this process worked and there was no way they can fail at that point. It's like Thomas Edison, he said when he, every time he failed the light bulb, he was like I figured out a new way to not build a light bulb. He had a thousand ways he tried and didn't work, but he didn't look at those as failures. That way didn't work, that way didn't work. Cool, this way it worked. We gotta look at things that way as well, you guys. So many of us are getting into this like, ”I want a million dollar webinar.” And I'm like, dude that's awesome, but you gotta put in the work man. Let me tell you how many decades of effort. I guess just one. But I mean, for me to be able to do what I do now, we can do a webinar and make half a million bucks, it didn't just come magically. It came on the back of ten years of failing and failing and trying and failing and building a team, and learning and growing and learning and growing and coming to that. Obviously, we've tried to give you guys a lot of short cuts. Perfect Webinar is a short cut. Clickfunnels is a short cut. Honestly, Facebook's a short cut. Facebook's the greatest gift to marketers right now, in the world. And I don't think it will be here forever, but it's here now and it's amazing. All these short cuts, so hopefully you guys don't have to spend ten years, but do know you are going to have to spend some time. And do know you are going to fail, but if you keep it in your mind that you're just one funnel away….I don't know if that funnel is today, tomorrow, a month from now, six months from now, but if you have that in your mind knowing with absolute certainty that one of these funnels is going to be the one, it's going to be the freedom maker for you. You have absolute certainty of it, you keep building, moving forward, pushing, I promise you will hit that. But you have to have absolute certainty that it's going to happen. One of the interviews yesterday, someone asked me, “What was the “why” behind what got you into this thing and why you push yourself so hard?” I said, “When I got started, I was watching these people online who were having success. Back then in was Armand Morin, Alex Mandossian, Marlin Sanders, my mentors. Mark Joyner. All I know is I looked at these guys and I believed them. I believed that what they were doing was making them money and because I saw them doing it, I had 100% absolute certainty that it worked and that I could make it work. I didn't know how, but I was positive that I could and it would. Because of that I didn't stop. Because I had perfect that it was going to work, so I just started running and running and running.” I think a lot of problems that some of us have is that we don't have faith. “I think this can work. I think this can work for me.” And because of that you try and dabble and try and dabble and doing quite go all in, but if you know with absolute certainty that there's no way this is going to fail, it's going to take you a bunch of times, but you know that's it's gonna work. It'll push you through the hard nights, the failures, the funnel flops. But it'll be worth it. I promise you guys it's worth it. It's not only worth it for you and your family, because the money that comes from it is amazing, but it's worth it for the people you are serving with the products and service you are creating. You will touch their lives in a way that doesn't make sense to you now, but when you see it and you see the fruits of that, it's pretty amazing. So I want to leave that with you guys today. I hope that helps. I'm at the office now. I'm going from the new amazing office to the old crappy office. In the old crappy office two more weeks or so, then we're out of here. Appreciate you all, thanks so much for listening. If you enjoyed this podcast, or any of them, please go to iTunes and rate and review us, I'd appreciate that. Please become an affiliate for Marketing In Your Car, free MP3 player, let people know about it because that'd be cool. Thanks you guys. Appreciate you all, have an awesome day. Bye everybody.

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Why Don't You Just Build Your Own Funnels? - Part 2

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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2016 6:54

Continuing my thoughts from yesterday… On today's episode Russell talks about a couple in the Inner Circle group that has implemented the things they learned at the last Inner Circle meetings and how building a culture has worked for them. He also apologizes to people he may have offended in the last podcast. Here are some cool things to listen for in this episode: What kinds of things Brandon and Kaylin did to help build their cult-ture, and why they are the best implementer's ever. And why Russell didn't intend to offend people with the last podcast, and why he is just trying to motivate. So listen below to hear how you can follow Brandon and Kaylin's example to build your own cult-ture. ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson and I am heading home from the first days of the inner circle, which were just amazing. I'm a little tired, a little worn out. I have two more days the next two days. I gotta get some good rest, start over the party tomorrow with the next group of our awesome members. I'm looking forward to it. But I just wanted to do a couple of things. First off, I know before I headed in Monday, I talked a little bit about the fact that I want people taking the stuff and running with it. And I had a couple of people who messaged me afterwards. I wasn't speaking to anyone specifically, but as a whole. I want everyone believing more in themselves, and that's the message I was trying to get out. I was probably ranting a little bit, I don't remember. I don't anyone to think that I was mad at them specifically, but I do want people to believe that you're good enough now. You're ready, you can do it. Hopefully that was the message you got, because that was the message that was intended. It's funny, it's interesting, in our coaching program that's a commonality. I do a lot of coaching, but the majority of it is really people asking for permission. “Hey, I think I should do this, what do you think?” And I'm like, “It's awesome.” Or maybe not. That's what a lot of people need and I get that. I'm in the same spot. I've got my coaches in different aspects of my life, but I would say for most people, give yourself permission. You can do it, you're good enough. Use that as fuel on that side, and hopefully there was nothing negative that you guys got from that. That was not my intention. Sometimes I push record, and I'm in a weird mood. But there you go. So a couple of cool things from Inner Circle today. One thing that's interesting that I've found, this is kind of funny. You know how when you learn from somebody and you see them from afar for a long time and their name is their name. For example, Mark Joyner is my first mentor, so I always called him Mark Joyner, Mark Joyner, Mark Joyner. So the other week Mark was out here working, in fact I'll say it right now, I felt awkward. When Mark Joyner was here, it was funny because Brandon who was doing video stuff, he kept calling him Mark. I was like, “His name isn't Mark, its Mark Joyner. Why are you disrespecting him like that?” And that's how I felt. And I realized that. I didn't think much about it until I realized recently almost all of the Inner Circle people, when they say something to me it's never “Hey Russell” it's always, “Hey Russell Brunson” and I think it's interesting and I totally get it. For me Mark Joyner was always my mentor. Dan Kennedy, Tony Robbins, I never called him Tony. That felt awkward calling him that. It's kind of a fun thing I've noticed. Tons of people here keep calling me Russell Brunson. It's funny because in your normal life, you never call somebody by their full name, but in those situations…..it's so fascinating to me. I thought it was kind of cool.I definitely look at that as a term of endearment, which is kind of cool. So I'll leave that there. And then the last cool thing I'll share, and then I'm almost home which is kind of nice because I need some sleep. With our Inner Circle group, we have a Monday/Tuesday group and then a Wednesday/Thursday and then on Tuesday night we have a big dinner with both groups. So we just did that tonight, just got out of it. And it was cool because Brandon and Kaylin, at the last Inner Circle meeting one of our big things, and if you follow along with the podcast, I'm sure you heard it. It was all about building your cult-ture and what you have to do to build that up and grow. And it was really, really cool, they are some of the fastest implementers that I have ever met, hands down, ever. So they basically went home. On the flight home they were like, “Okay we're building a culture.” And they changed their branding, their name, their Facebook, everything. They re-did in the last four months, and they came back tonight and showed, “This is everything we've done based o three months ago, to build our culture out.” And it was amazing. If you're in the Inner Circle, we Facebook live it in the Inner Circle Facebook Group. So you guys who are Inner Circle members can go watch that. And if you're not, it's time to join the Inner Circle, what are you waiting for? Oh, maybe the fact that's it's sold out. Maybe you can beg your way in if you're not in it yet. It was amazing, thing after thing. I was taking notes as fast as I could and it was amazing. The coolest thing is the result of them focusing on building a culture and all these kind of things. Its crazy, there churn decreased by ten percent, which is hundreds of thousands of dollars. They now do these, kind of like our Funnel Swag t-shirts we do. They do these Lady Boss Swag launches where they're like, “We have this new t-shirt designed. There's a hundred in these sizes. Go. First come, first serve. When they're gone, they're gone.” They sold $25,000 in t-shirts in 24 hours and then closed it out. They're doing those kinds of things and they're using it to sell programs and to upsell things to upgrade and to get people to actually fulfill and get things done and lose weight and there's all this built in accountability. It was amazing to see what they created just from this thought that we had about building your culture. So for any of you guys who heard me talking about that over the last few months, it's time to start running and doing like they do. Because man, 3 ½, 4 months later, to see what's happened because of that and because of their action based on that has been amazing. So there you go guys. I'm doing it, if you want watch Brandon and Kaylin, they're doing it. A bunch of other people in our group, they're doing it. Time for you to do it as well. So there you go. I'm at home you guys. Appreciate you all for an amazing night. Know that I care about you guys and that if I ever say anything mean, it's not to be mean but it's to hopefully get you guys to take action. Because you are good enough, you can do it. The people that you serve deserve it. So there you go. Thanks everyone, have a good night and we'll talk to you soon.

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