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How does automation work on your team with developers and testers? In this episode, Ramiro Millan, a Director of Product Development for Test Studio, shares how collaboration works from his experience leveraging tools to help the process. Discover some of the gray areas of development that could leverage automation, tooling to help C#/.Net developers, and the planning, design, and development of automation tests.

AiA 143 Kendo UI with Burke Holland Charles Max Wood and Burke Holland discuss Kendo UI. Burke Holland is on the Developer Tools Division at Progress. The discussion ranges from the introduction of Kendo UI to tests used for Angular apps. Stay tuned to discover what Kendo UI can do for you! [00:01:50] Shutout for Angular Remote Conf Charles will be picking speakers really soon so get your ticket at the early bird price. [00:02:15] – Introduction to Burke Holland Burke Holland is working for Progress in the Developer Tools Division on the Developer Relations Team. They work on products like NativeScript, KendoUI and all the developer tools that Progress makes, which is mostly UI components and mobile frameworks Questions for Burke Holland [00:03:00] – What is Kendo UI? Kendo UI is a Javascript UI library. It has open source components (Kendo UI Core), but it’s primarily commercial. It’s more on heavy lifting text scenarios like grid that has sorting and filtering, drag and drop, grouping, scheduler, robust calendar interface, pivot grids, Gantt charts, data visualizations. We’ve rebuilt Kendo UI from the ground up using Angular components. It’s the Kendo UI Core Angular that was released last January. [00:08:00] – How are Kendo UI elements pulled for use into an app? There’s a private npm repo that you would just pull in and bundle some of the widgets together. Inputs can be a drop down list, a combo box, autocomplete, etc. Using npm and install -@progress/kendo-angular-input, you get all of those inside your npm modules folder. We and the team are pushing to move to the public npm repo so that people don’t have to register for an account. [00:13:00] What about mobile development? Does this work with NativeScript? Kendo UI widgets do not work inside of NativeScript for mobile apps. However, we are looking for a possibility of merging their NativeScript UI library with Kendo UI so that you can build a website, a progressive web app, a NativeScript app, etc. [00:16:00] Do you also have to pull in some CSS? Kendo UI has their own CSS that is based on Sass. It has a theme builder to customize themes that you can pre-select from. Integration for Bootstrap 4 was also built because Kendo UI does not have a layout system so it doesn’t provide you with any grid system for layouts or for responsive design. [00:19:00] Do you just import it into my app and then use the components, is it that simple? It is recommended to use Angular CLI to use Kendo UI’s components and import it into an app. First step is to create a new project with the Angular CLI because Kendo UI is designed to work with it. You can work with SystemJS, instead, but it requires some tweaking. Next, you would need to add the private npm repo which registers the end point on the terminal. And then, npm-install to install the components. After that, you can include them in your app module file. Import Kendo grid from @progress/kendo-angular-grid. Then, you can import them into your module so you use it in your templates. [00:23:00] – Can I tie a chart to a grid, update the chart and have the grid change? Everything that Angular updates, Kendo UI just updates too. If you buy two components to the same array and you update that array, both of those components are going to update because they’re using Angular’s binding. [00:24:00] – Does Kendo UI work with the older versions of Angular? Kendo UI works with Angular 1.x. By the way, AngularJS means Angular 1.x. Meanwhile, Angular means Angular 2 and up. Directives for Angular 1.x wrap Kendo UI components. [00:28:00] – When moving my component in AngularJS to Modern Angular, do I have to include both of those in the product? I can’t provide any guidance here, other than I wouldn’t do that. If you migrate, you’re going to be firing up a new project but you should be able to move your application logic over pretty well. However, we still have this idea of services and injection and those things are transferable. And then, when you use Kendo UI components, the only thing that’s really transferable there is the configuration settings. [00:29:00] – How do you write tests if you’re testing Angular app? Are there other things that you should be testing? That would mean there’s some sort of functional testing and unit testing. If we’re talking about unit testing, you should just test the way that you would normally test Angular. For functional test, you need a functional testing tool like Selenium or Test Studio. [00:30:00] – Is there anything else that people need to know about Kendo UI? We’ve got a lot of other components coming so stay tuned on that. We’re also working on some React stuff. We always love to get feedback. We have a github repo. Picks Burke Holland: Server list Azure Functions Challenge Medium article on Samsung’s weird emoji Twitter at @burkeholland Twitter of Tara Z. Manicsic Charles Max Wood: Serverless library in npm AWS Lambda Slack room for the podcast (adventuresinangular.com/slack) Angular Remote Conf Get A Coder Job Stack for Slack automation MemberPress on WordPress

AiA 143 Kendo UI with Burke Holland Charles Max Wood and Burke Holland discuss Kendo UI. Burke Holland is on the Developer Tools Division at Progress. The discussion ranges from the introduction of Kendo UI to tests used for Angular apps. Stay tuned to discover what Kendo UI can do for you! [00:01:50] Shutout for Angular Remote Conf Charles will be picking speakers really soon so get your ticket at the early bird price. [00:02:15] – Introduction to Burke Holland Burke Holland is working for Progress in the Developer Tools Division on the Developer Relations Team. They work on products like NativeScript, KendoUI and all the developer tools that Progress makes, which is mostly UI components and mobile frameworks Questions for Burke Holland [00:03:00] – What is Kendo UI? Kendo UI is a Javascript UI library. It has open source components (Kendo UI Core), but it’s primarily commercial. It’s more on heavy lifting text scenarios like grid that has sorting and filtering, drag and drop, grouping, scheduler, robust calendar interface, pivot grids, Gantt charts, data visualizations. We’ve rebuilt Kendo UI from the ground up using Angular components. It’s the Kendo UI Core Angular that was released last January. [00:08:00] – How are Kendo UI elements pulled for use into an app? There’s a private npm repo that you would just pull in and bundle some of the widgets together. Inputs can be a drop down list, a combo box, autocomplete, etc. Using npm and install -@progress/kendo-angular-input, you get all of those inside your npm modules folder. We and the team are pushing to move to the public npm repo so that people don’t have to register for an account. [00:13:00] What about mobile development? Does this work with NativeScript? Kendo UI widgets do not work inside of NativeScript for mobile apps. However, we are looking for a possibility of merging their NativeScript UI library with Kendo UI so that you can build a website, a progressive web app, a NativeScript app, etc. [00:16:00] Do you also have to pull in some CSS? Kendo UI has their own CSS that is based on Sass. It has a theme builder to customize themes that you can pre-select from. Integration for Bootstrap 4 was also built because Kendo UI does not have a layout system so it doesn’t provide you with any grid system for layouts or for responsive design. [00:19:00] Do you just import it into my app and then use the components, is it that simple? It is recommended to use Angular CLI to use Kendo UI’s components and import it into an app. First step is to create a new project with the Angular CLI because Kendo UI is designed to work with it. You can work with SystemJS, instead, but it requires some tweaking. Next, you would need to add the private npm repo which registers the end point on the terminal. And then, npm-install to install the components. After that, you can include them in your app module file. Import Kendo grid from @progress/kendo-angular-grid. Then, you can import them into your module so you use it in your templates. [00:23:00] – Can I tie a chart to a grid, update the chart and have the grid change? Everything that Angular updates, Kendo UI just updates too. If you buy two components to the same array and you update that array, both of those components are going to update because they’re using Angular’s binding. [00:24:00] – Does Kendo UI work with the older versions of Angular? Kendo UI works with Angular 1.x. By the way, AngularJS means Angular 1.x. Meanwhile, Angular means Angular 2 and up. Directives for Angular 1.x wrap Kendo UI components. [00:28:00] – When moving my component in AngularJS to Modern Angular, do I have to include both of those in the product? I can’t provide any guidance here, other than I wouldn’t do that. If you migrate, you’re going to be firing up a new project but you should be able to move your application logic over pretty well. However, we still have this idea of services and injection and those things are transferable. And then, when you use Kendo UI components, the only thing that’s really transferable there is the configuration settings. [00:29:00] – How do you write tests if you’re testing Angular app? Are there other things that you should be testing? That would mean there’s some sort of functional testing and unit testing. If we’re talking about unit testing, you should just test the way that you would normally test Angular. For functional test, you need a functional testing tool like Selenium or Test Studio. [00:30:00] – Is there anything else that people need to know about Kendo UI? We’ve got a lot of other components coming so stay tuned on that. We’re also working on some React stuff. We always love to get feedback. We have a github repo. Picks Burke Holland: Server list Azure Functions Challenge Medium article on Samsung’s weird emoji Twitter at @burkeholland Twitter of Tara Z. Manicsic Charles Max Wood: Serverless library in npm AWS Lambda Slack room for the podcast (adventuresinangular.com/slack) Angular Remote Conf Get A Coder Job Stack for Slack automation MemberPress on WordPress

AiA 143 Kendo UI with Burke Holland Charles Max Wood and Burke Holland discuss Kendo UI. Burke Holland is on the Developer Tools Division at Progress. The discussion ranges from the introduction of Kendo UI to tests used for Angular apps. Stay tuned to discover what Kendo UI can do for you! [00:01:50] Shutout for Angular Remote Conf Charles will be picking speakers really soon so get your ticket at the early bird price. [00:02:15] – Introduction to Burke Holland Burke Holland is working for Progress in the Developer Tools Division on the Developer Relations Team. They work on products like NativeScript, KendoUI and all the developer tools that Progress makes, which is mostly UI components and mobile frameworks Questions for Burke Holland [00:03:00] – What is Kendo UI? Kendo UI is a Javascript UI library. It has open source components (Kendo UI Core), but it’s primarily commercial. It’s more on heavy lifting text scenarios like grid that has sorting and filtering, drag and drop, grouping, scheduler, robust calendar interface, pivot grids, Gantt charts, data visualizations. We’ve rebuilt Kendo UI from the ground up using Angular components. It’s the Kendo UI Core Angular that was released last January. [00:08:00] – How are Kendo UI elements pulled for use into an app? There’s a private npm repo that you would just pull in and bundle some of the widgets together. Inputs can be a drop down list, a combo box, autocomplete, etc. Using npm and install -@progress/kendo-angular-input, you get all of those inside your npm modules folder. We and the team are pushing to move to the public npm repo so that people don’t have to register for an account. [00:13:00] What about mobile development? Does this work with NativeScript? Kendo UI widgets do not work inside of NativeScript for mobile apps. However, we are looking for a possibility of merging their NativeScript UI library with Kendo UI so that you can build a website, a progressive web app, a NativeScript app, etc. [00:16:00] Do you also have to pull in some CSS? Kendo UI has their own CSS that is based on Sass. It has a theme builder to customize themes that you can pre-select from. Integration for Bootstrap 4 was also built because Kendo UI does not have a layout system so it doesn’t provide you with any grid system for layouts or for responsive design. [00:19:00] Do you just import it into my app and then use the components, is it that simple? It is recommended to use Angular CLI to use Kendo UI’s components and import it into an app. First step is to create a new project with the Angular CLI because Kendo UI is designed to work with it. You can work with SystemJS, instead, but it requires some tweaking. Next, you would need to add the private npm repo which registers the end point on the terminal. And then, npm-install to install the components. After that, you can include them in your app module file. Import Kendo grid from @progress/kendo-angular-grid. Then, you can import them into your module so you use it in your templates. [00:23:00] – Can I tie a chart to a grid, update the chart and have the grid change? Everything that Angular updates, Kendo UI just updates too. If you buy two components to the same array and you update that array, both of those components are going to update because they’re using Angular’s binding. [00:24:00] – Does Kendo UI work with the older versions of Angular? Kendo UI works with Angular 1.x. By the way, AngularJS means Angular 1.x. Meanwhile, Angular means Angular 2 and up. Directives for Angular 1.x wrap Kendo UI components. [00:28:00] – When moving my component in AngularJS to Modern Angular, do I have to include both of those in the product? I can’t provide any guidance here, other than I wouldn’t do that. If you migrate, you’re going to be firing up a new project but you should be able to move your application logic over pretty well. However, we still have this idea of services and injection and those things are transferable. And then, when you use Kendo UI components, the only thing that’s really transferable there is the configuration settings. [00:29:00] – How do you write tests if you’re testing Angular app? Are there other things that you should be testing? That would mean there’s some sort of functional testing and unit testing. If we’re talking about unit testing, you should just test the way that you would normally test Angular. For functional test, you need a functional testing tool like Selenium or Test Studio. [00:30:00] – Is there anything else that people need to know about Kendo UI? We’ve got a lot of other components coming so stay tuned on that. We’re also working on some React stuff. We always love to get feedback. We have a github repo. Picks Burke Holland: Server list Azure Functions Challenge Medium article on Samsung’s weird emoji Twitter at @burkeholland Twitter of Tara Z. Manicsic Charles Max Wood: Serverless library in npm AWS Lambda Slack room for the podcast (adventuresinangular.com/slack) Angular Remote Conf Get A Coder Job Stack for Slack automation MemberPress on WordPress

Are you running Three Amigos conversations for each work item/user story your team does? If not, start now. Seriously. Jim Holmes shares his advice on using the Three Amigos approach. http://developer.telerik.com/featured/all-in-with-the-three-amigos/ 00:01 Ed Charbeneau: This podcast is part of the Telerik Developer Network. Telerik, by Progress. [music] 00:08 EC: Hi. This is Ed Charbeneau with Eat Sleep Code and I just wanted to let you guys know that we are trying to make the show better. So we've set up a survey at developer.telerik.com/survey and we're collecting feedback from listeners to see what we can do to make the show better for you. So please stop by developer.telerik.com/survey and fill it out. We'd appreciate it. We've also got 10 licenses to Telerik products and T-shirts that we'll be giving away to 10 lucky winners. Thanks for your help. [music] 00:53 EC: Hello and welcome to Eat Sleep Code, the official Telerik podcast. I'm your host Ed Charbeneau and with me today is Jim Holmes. How you doing, Jim? 01:01 Jim Holmes: I'm doing very well. 01:04 EC: And today, we're gonna be talking about going "All In With The Three Amigos." We'll explain that in a moment. Let's start with a little bit about you, Jim. Tell us a little bit about yourself. 01:19 JH: So let's see. I will avoid going back to the dawn of time when I was born. I've been around various corners of software delivery coming up on 30 years now, so I'm an old fart. But I've done a lot of different roles, PM, developer, have been customer relations, I've done support. My focus really for kind of the last 10 or 15 years has been diving deeper and deeper into getting good quality out of software delivery teams, and have really been focusing a lot on kind of a human communication and how we get all of the hardest stuff, which is not the technology, but communication, collaboration, clarity, and what we're really trying to build and how to do it well. 02:15 JH: I'm currently an executive consultant with Pillar Technologies. That's a midwest consulting firm, although we've got offices around other places. I've got a side company, Guidepost Systems, that lets me also do different types of engagements. Used to work for Telerik. Was there about three and a half years working with the awesome folks on Test Studio. I was both the evangelist for all of that time and then for about a year, a year and a half, I also was director of engineering for that, and got to work with the teams in Austin and Sophia. So, Telerik is near and dear to my heart even after the merger with Progress, I still fondly think of... Gosh, I guess it's been about a 10-year association with Telerik. So, that's it for me. 03:11 EC: Well, thanks for sharing that with us, Jim. We appreciate the Telerik love, definitely appreciate your input on the Test Studio Project over the years. It's quite the useful tool that... I don't get enough chance myself to get involved and talk about. Really wish we still had one of the Test Studio evangelist spots in our team of evangelist folks. 03:44 JH: Right, right. It's a wonderful tool and I was lucky. They made the evangelist spot for me. When I started talking with Telerik years ago about coming on board, it was because I'd seen Test Studio. And it's not the perfect tool for everybody, but the thing was, it solved so many problems that I was struggling with on a regular basis. I fell in love with it and was doing the right sorts of things. You can have tools that kinda lead you off down a very bad path, and a few months after you've dived into this tool, it turns out that all of a sudden you're in the midst of a whole bunch of pain because it wasn't doing maintainable solutions, and... Find the full transcript on Telerik Developer Network http://developer.telerik.com/featured/all-in-with-the-three-amigos/