Young/Adult

Who would win in a fistfight: a guy in a wheelchair or a child? Is it ever morally justified to lie? Is aluminum foil worth more than gold? All these questions and more will be answered in our nicest Mistborn episode yet. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=B105 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mistborn/comments/15megr4/young_and_adult_read_mistborn_the_well_of/

Young comes out in favour of monarchism, Adult desperately tries to avoid getting into politics while reviewing a chapter that's entirely about politics, and we both accuse ska of being criminals just for trying to make a living. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C91 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

[Content notes: brief discussion of rape and forced pregnancy.] A character runs out of paper to write on (is this the key to everything?), Vin doesn't understand hypotheticals, and we wonder why dry academic discussion might seem low-stakes. Predictions spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C90 Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult

Young yawns at the dialogue, Adult defends eating rotten meat, and we conflate being a Mistborn to being a dog. Note: the Mistborn subreddit is currently protesting Reddit's policy changes, so this episode won't be posted there for a few days. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C81 Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult

Adult delivers a rambling history lecture, Young comes out in favour of military dictatorship, and we both agree that Vin touched Oreseur innapropriately. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C80 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

[Content notes: discussion of rape, sexual abuse, and self-harm.] We make up our own imaginary version of the chapter, applaud lying and manipulation (especially of your romantic partners to hide that you're cheating), and advocate for overthrowing democracy. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C75 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

We clock the series' first transgender character and meet a character's long-lost sibling as we watch a game of 4D chess. Predictions list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C62 Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult

We discuss apple wholsesale prices, Adult accuses Vin of being too trusting, and Young cheers for the deaths of the innocent. Predictions list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C62 Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult

Adult gets someone's name egregiously wrong and Young doesn't correct him, we reveal that neither of us knows how fog works, and we discover the real difference between Star Wars and Star Trek. It Makes Sense If You Understand Decision Theory podcast: https://hpmorpodcast.com/?page_id=3089 https://hpmorpodcast.com/?page_id=3089 Predictions list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C62 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C62 Our Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult

[Content notes: discussion of Mormon theology; history of slavery and sexual coercion; minor spoilers for the beginnings of The Incredibles, Justice League & Jessica Jones.] We apologize profusely for everything, justify the most useless Allomancy, and learn a character suffers from colourblindness.

[Content notes: discussion of sexual assault, questionable accounts of Mormon theology.] Young fully embraces the shipping wars, Adult accuses Mormons of being too monogamous, and we bully someone for having social anxiety issues. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C48 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

We ramble about our disproven misconceptions, wonder how babby is made, and chastize a servant for failing to know their place. But mostly, we speculate wildly for pretty much the entire episode. Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult/ Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C34

[Content notes: a lot of this episode consist of discussion of mental health issues, self-harm, and sexual abuse.] Could this be a chapter so meaty and interesting, we actually stayed mostly on-topic for once? Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=A29

Adult reads seven hundred descriptions of mist, Young picks a side in the shipping wars, and we both engage in more high-stakes fashion analysis. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C11 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

[Content note: very minor, abstract spoiler for later Mistborn series at 15 mins in.] While Adult slowly dies of the plague, we discuss yet more of the history of tin cans as well as the latest fashion tips. Illustrations: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mistborn/comments/10kzwan/fanart_vin_elend_outfits_for_the_youngadult/ Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C11 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Adult is confused by paragraph breaks, Young is confused by soup, and we ponder whether pineapple is a fruit. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=C11 Magic System Notes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=1713526227&range=H5 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

We outline a new Pepsi adverising strategy, debate whether you should anthropomorphize people, and discuss whether health and youth are fluids. Reddit Thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mistborn/comments/zx2koz/youngadult_read_mistborn_the_well_of_ascension_ch/ Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=A7 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Adult forgets how to read, Young pretends to know how gravity works, and we both make fun of not wanting to jump off a cliff. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=496994333&range=A2 Metal notes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=136679736&range=G3

Young and Adult endorse lying to your friends, identify expendable assets, and debate rough vs smooth magic. Twitter: @PodYoungAdult Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=1351055388&range=A25

[Content notes: spoilers for The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, minor spoilers for Avatar: The Last Airbender.] We accuse Elend of cheating, cheer for PTSD, and question whether democracy is really worth all this bother. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=1351055388&range=C22 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Due to technical difficulties, today's episode is limited to chapter 8, with no mailbox segment. But we found quite a bit in chapter 8 to talk about! Twitter (with some more info on what happened): @PodYoungAdult Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=1351055388&range=A16 Magic System Notes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=1073531048&range=A1

Adult rants about the true nature of the cosmos, Young hates on a mega chad, and we both plot an assasination. Magic System Notes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=1580462837&range=A1 Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=1351055388&range=C15

Adult cheers for tearing people's faces off and wearing them as masks, Young praises killing dogs, and we both praise the strict comittment to hard sci-fi realism of Star Trek. AI-generated Mistborn "fanart": https://imgur.com/gallery/dZyTLKQ Magic System Notes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=1651145666&range=A15 Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=1351055388&range=C7

Adult attacks the plot of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Young believes in ghosts and astral projection, and we deeply offend neopagans and Seeker fans everywhere. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=1351055388&range=A5 Metals Cheat Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=1631992569&range=G8 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

A new book begins! (A good jumping-on point if you're new, hint hint.) Young is surprised that time has passed between episodes, Adult advocates violating the Geneva Conventions, and we both pay our respect to the new King(s). New prediction tracker: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=1351055388&range=A1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult Mentioned in the episode: - Dread RPG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dread_(role-playing_game) - The confusing cover of Adult's copy: https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1619538925i/68429._UY1000_SS1000_.jpg

The episode past 1h40m was missing. This has now been fixed! If you previously listened to the Mistborn Epilogue episode, you can go back and listen from the 1 hour 40 minutes mark for the remainder of your episode. (You may need to re-download it depending on how you've been listening.)

In this very special season finale of Young/Adult, your hosts call their predictions stupid, all their favourite characters boring, and world-renowned author Brandon Sanderson an amateur with a lot to learn about proper writing. Also: Adult suddenly remembers an exciting bet made in episode 3! Content notes: Eye trauma; minor spoilers for The Sandman, Skulduggery Pleasant, Harry Potter, The Lord of the Rings. List of Questions We Would Like Word of God Answers On: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnPCglDZYJEX09QVuTHjgmh_jGU0s_rDQsVanv5eigg/edit#gid=898474348&range=A2

Young and Adult are joined by special guest star Old in reading H. P. Lovecraft's arguably most famous horror story: The Call of Cthulhu. Links: - Full story: https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/cc.aspx, https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/68283 - Title Page: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Weirdtales-1928-02-thecallofcthulhu.jpg - Cyclopean architecture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclopean_masonry, https://www.greeka.com/seedo/photos/788/mycenae-cyclopean-walls-gallery-19-1920.jpg - Non-Eucelidean geometry in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t4aKJuKP0Q, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEB11PQ9Eo8 - Lovecraft's sketch of the idol: https://cdn8.openculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Cthulhu_sketch_by_Lovecraft.jpg - Young's preferred Cthulhu design: http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0271/7209/articles/cthulhu.jpg https://typelish.com/c/P2X3vPr

THE END Content notes: castration, minor Harry Potter spoilers. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=343944884&range=A2

Adult endorses the Lord Ruler's genocides, Young claims it's mathematically impossible for Elend to strike out on his own, and we both get very mad about cage design. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=728859659&range=A198 Metals: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=1001976723&range=A1 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Adult accuses the Lord Ruler of having murdered himself, Young questions whether anyone has actually read any of the Mistborn books past this one, and both hosts reveal mutually-incompatible spoilers about the Kandra. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=728859659&range=A193 Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult

Young gets paranoid about Kandra, and Adult faces the consequences for lying. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=1765575856&range=A185 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Adult re-reads the entire book, we make fun of Kelsier the drama queen, and we face the biggest cliffhanger of The Final Empire yet. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=1765575856&range=A171 Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult

Your hosts cheer for the death of their favourite characters and debate the value of a dragon's hoard. Note: there will likely be some updates on the next episode posted on our Twitter over the next few days. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=1765575856&range=A161 Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult

All hell breaks loose and we ... suddenly start agreeing with Vin? Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=1765575856&range=A155 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Young and Adult discuss Chapter 29, and ramble about their feelings on the book as a whole. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=1765575856&range=A150 Metals spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=891785010&range=G6 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Boy, we really picked quite a pair of chapters to cover in one episode! The Five Nobles: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jHp1TmhgNCDdqownj6lcBdPqn7wiAEUOCSPRIqNQf_E/edit#gid=1963248597 Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=1765575856&range=B136 Metals: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=198439686 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

We begin Part 3 of The Final Empire - Dancers in a Sea of Mist! And what an intimidating start it is! Predicitons: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=1765575856&range=A135 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Young and Adult watched the new Batman movie and they have a LOT of thoughts about it! Could this be the best Batman movie ever? Or is it just a bit of a mess? Spoiler discussion begins at 11m30s. Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Young and Adult share their thoughts on chapters 16-25 of The Final Empire. Predictions List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=59155167&range=A132 Metal Notes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=61262693&range=A1 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Part three of the The Final Empire comes to a dramatic finale, and our questions from last episode are answered ... or are they? Twitter: @PodYoungAdult Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=59155167&range=A128

Young and Adult struggle to narrow down who on the team they think isn't a traitor. Twitter: @PodYoungAdult Prediction List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=59155167&range=A128

Can your beloved hosts survive yet another of the Final Empire's seemingly unlimited noble parties? More importantly, can Vin? Prediction list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=59155167&range=A120

Young and Adult (and Vin) learn the truth about Keepers - and nobles. Adult is struck by his wildest theories yet. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=59155167&range=A120 Magic System notes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=962998916

Does the (latest) third movie in the Spider-Man trilogy - by far the biggest movie of 2021 - hold up?  (Note: the comic referenced in the episode at 2h6m, in which the world advances in real time from Spider-Man's debut in 1962, is the 6-issue miniseries Spider-Man: Life Story.)  Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

The gang has a fun boat ride and goes spelunking. Twitter: @PodYoungAdult Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=59155167

Young and Adult get extremely excited about bronze, and this story's worldbuilding in general. Some minor spoilers for the Star Wars films when we talk about the nature of long-running franchises. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=59155167 Notes on Metals (especially worth checking out this time): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=305633895 List of links to all the podcasts referenced: https://twitter.com/PodYoungAdult/status/1476303358722035714

Young and Adult learn what Kelsier gets up to when he's off screen. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/edit#gid=59155167 Metals Info Learned: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpj9SE-1TLz7WsmeUwokTR3IhkcbMoI6a2SAWwnB0nw/edit#gid=221675058 Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

We interrupt your regular program with some important news: spaceships made out of concrete look surprisingly good. Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Young and Adult chat about the Venom sequel, and whatever it reminds them of. We only went SLIGHTLY longer than the actual movie's runtime. Twitter: @PodYoungAdult

Young and Adult finally get around to reading the map at the beginning of the book. Also there's a party or whatever. Predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mstRExN72Eubgvf5yzTPQC9w3wiqK1Esgndo_yEw4DQ/ Twitter: @PodYoungAdult