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Avec Grégory Delaplace, anthropologue. Cet épisode a été tourné en public à la Gaîté Lyrique.Je ne crois pas aux fantômes, mais ils me font peur. Un bon mort doit être bien mort et enterré. On peut s’en souvenir avec tendresse mais on n’a pas forcément envie qu'il apparaisse.Grégory Delaplace est anthropologue à l'École pratique des hautes études. Il a notamment écrit “Les Intelligences particulières” (Vues de l’Esprit, 2021), un livre sur des maisons hantées en Angleterre ainsi que “La voix des Fantômes” (Seuil, 2024), où il examine divers rituels funéraires à travers le monde. Il travaille sur les différentes manières dont les sociétés organisent leurs relations avec les morts et sur comment les morts rechignent parfois à se laisser oublier et reviennent pour exiger des choses des vivants. À quoi servent nos rituels funéraires, à se souvenir ou à oublier ? Quand est-ce que les morts échappent à la place qu'on a voulu leur donner ? Que nous veulent les fantômes ? Un épisode des Idées Larges avec Grégory Delaplace, anthropologue. Références : - Jean Bazin, “Des clous dans La Joconde. L’anthropologie autrement”, Anacharsis, 1991- Thomas Laqueur, “Le travail des morts, Une histoire culturelle des dépouilles mortelles”, Gallimard, 2018,- Michel Lauwers, “Naissance du cimetière : lieux sacrés et terre des morts dans l’occident médiéval”, Paris, Aubier, 2005- Anne-Christine Taylor “L’oubli des morts et la mémoire des meurtres : Expériences de l’histoire chez les Jivaro”, Terrain, no 29, 1997- Erik Mueggler, “Songs for dead parents. Corpse, text, and world in Southwest China”, The University of Chicago Press, 2017.- Beth Conklin Consuming grief: compassionate cannibalism in an Amazonian society, University of Texas Press, 2001- Christophe Pons, “Réseaux de vivants, solidarités de morts: Un système symbolique en Islande”, Terrain, no 38, 2002- Piers Vitebsky, “Dialogues with the dead: the discussion of mortality among the Sora of eastern India”, Cambridge Univ. Press, 1993- Claude Levis-Strauss, “Le Père Noël supplicié”, Les Temps Modernes, vol. 77, 1952- Heonik Kwon, “Ghosts of War in Vietnam”, Cambridge University Press, 2008 Archives sonores : - Hawk Films, Peregrine - The Shining - Stanley Kubrick - 1980- Alan Ball, Lori Jo Nemhauser, Alan Poul - Six feet under - 2001 - 2005- PolyGram Filmed Entertainment, Working Title Films - The Big Lebowski - Joel et Ethan Cohen - 1998- Black Rhino Productions, Columbia Pictures, Delphi Films - Ghostbuster - Ivan Reitman - 1984 Musique Générique :« TRAHISON » Musique de Pascal Arbez-Nicolas © Delabel Editions, Artiste : VITALIC,(P) 2005 Citizen Records under Different Recording licence ISRC : BEP010400190,Avec l’aimable autorisation de [PIAS] et Delabel Editions. Episode vidéo publié le 13 septembre 2024 sur arte.tv Autrice Laura Raim Réalisateur David Tabourier Son Nicolas Régent Montage Antoine Dubois Mixage et sound design Jean-Marc Thurier Une co-production UPIAN Margaux Missika, Alexandre Brachet, Auriane Meilhon, Emma Le Jeune, Karolina Mikos avec l'aide de Nancy-Wangue Moussissa ARTE France Unité société et culture
The Lòlop’ò of Southwest China’s Yunnan Province have a folktale in which they, Han Chinese, and Tibetans were given the technology of writing. The Han man was wealthy, purchased paper, and wrote on paper. And so the Han continue to have writing today. The Tibetan man wrote on an animal hide, and so the Tibetans now have writing as well. The Lòlop’ò man, being poor, wrote on buckwheat pancakes. He ate the pancakes on the way home, and the Lòlop’ò now keep their texts orally among a group of ritual specialists. In Erik Mueggler’s Songs for Dead Parents: Corpse, Text, and World in Southwest China (University of Chicago Press, 2017), Lòlop’ò oral literature and Han Chinese writing feature prominently in local “work on the dead.” For the Lòlop’ò, one’s familial ancestors, and non-familial ancestors are present in the world, and people maintain complex intimate relations with them that are not constrained by death. These relations find expression in rituals in which souls are given material body and then dispersed again, in laments and chants, and in gravestones inscribed with Chinese. In examining these various factors, this book provides new pathways for studying the anthropology of death, and for understanding ethnic minority experience in Southwest China. Timothy Thurston is Lecturer in Chinese Studies at the University of Leeds. His research examines language at the nexus of tradition and modernity in China’s Tibet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Lòlop’ò of Southwest China’s Yunnan Province have a folktale in which they, Han Chinese, and Tibetans were given the technology of writing. The Han man was wealthy, purchased paper, and wrote on paper. And so the Han continue to have writing today. The Tibetan man wrote on an animal hide, and so the Tibetans now have writing as well. The Lòlop’ò man, being poor, wrote on buckwheat pancakes. He ate the pancakes on the way home, and the Lòlop’ò now keep their texts orally among a group of ritual specialists. In Erik Mueggler’s Songs for Dead Parents: Corpse, Text, and World in Southwest China (University of Chicago Press, 2017), Lòlop’ò oral literature and Han Chinese writing feature prominently in local “work on the dead.” For the Lòlop’ò, one’s familial ancestors, and non-familial ancestors are present in the world, and people maintain complex intimate relations with them that are not constrained by death. These relations find expression in rituals in which souls are given material body and then dispersed again, in laments and chants, and in gravestones inscribed with Chinese. In examining these various factors, this book provides new pathways for studying the anthropology of death, and for understanding ethnic minority experience in Southwest China. Timothy Thurston is Lecturer in Chinese Studies at the University of Leeds. His research examines language at the nexus of tradition and modernity in China’s Tibet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Lòlop’ò of Southwest China’s Yunnan Province have a folktale in which they, Han Chinese, and Tibetans were given the technology of writing. The Han man was wealthy, purchased paper, and wrote on paper. And so the Han continue to have writing today. The Tibetan man wrote on an animal... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Lòlop’ò of Southwest China’s Yunnan Province have a folktale in which they, Han Chinese, and Tibetans were given the technology of writing. The Han man was wealthy, purchased paper, and wrote on paper. And so the Han continue to have writing today. The Tibetan man wrote on an animal hide, and so the Tibetans now have writing as well. The Lòlop’ò man, being poor, wrote on buckwheat pancakes. He ate the pancakes on the way home, and the Lòlop’ò now keep their texts orally among a group of ritual specialists. In Erik Mueggler’s Songs for Dead Parents: Corpse, Text, and World in Southwest China (University of Chicago Press, 2017), Lòlop’ò oral literature and Han Chinese writing feature prominently in local “work on the dead.” For the Lòlop’ò, one’s familial ancestors, and non-familial ancestors are present in the world, and people maintain complex intimate relations with them that are not constrained by death. These relations find expression in rituals in which souls are given material body and then dispersed again, in laments and chants, and in gravestones inscribed with Chinese. In examining these various factors, this book provides new pathways for studying the anthropology of death, and for understanding ethnic minority experience in Southwest China. Timothy Thurston is Lecturer in Chinese Studies at the University of Leeds. His research examines language at the nexus of tradition and modernity in China’s Tibet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Lòlop’ò of Southwest China’s Yunnan Province have a folktale in which they, Han Chinese, and Tibetans were given the technology of writing. The Han man was wealthy, purchased paper, and wrote on paper. And so the Han continue to have writing today. The Tibetan man wrote on an animal hide, and so the Tibetans now have writing as well. The Lòlop’ò man, being poor, wrote on buckwheat pancakes. He ate the pancakes on the way home, and the Lòlop’ò now keep their texts orally among a group of ritual specialists. In Erik Mueggler’s Songs for Dead Parents: Corpse, Text, and World in Southwest China (University of Chicago Press, 2017), Lòlop’ò oral literature and Han Chinese writing feature prominently in local “work on the dead.” For the Lòlop’ò, one’s familial ancestors, and non-familial ancestors are present in the world, and people maintain complex intimate relations with them that are not constrained by death. These relations find expression in rituals in which souls are given material body and then dispersed again, in laments and chants, and in gravestones inscribed with Chinese. In examining these various factors, this book provides new pathways for studying the anthropology of death, and for understanding ethnic minority experience in Southwest China. Timothy Thurston is Lecturer in Chinese Studies at the University of Leeds. His research examines language at the nexus of tradition and modernity in China’s Tibet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Lòlop’ò of Southwest China’s Yunnan Province have a folktale in which they, Han Chinese, and Tibetans were given the technology of writing. The Han man was wealthy, purchased paper, and wrote on paper. And so the Han continue to have writing today. The Tibetan man wrote on an animal... Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/chinese-studies
First things first: this is an outstanding book. In the course of The Paper Road: Archive and Experience in the Botanical Exploration of West China and Tibet (University of California Press, 2011), Erik Mueggler weaves together the stories of two botanists traveling through western China and Tibet in a lyrically-written story that treats the nature of writing, bodies, beauty, images, violence, and history in creating experiences of the earth. The characters are compelling, the story is important, and the work speaks to readers well beyond the field of East Asian Studies. Listen to Mueggler's comments, and then read the book. You will learn much, as I certainly did. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
First things first: this is an outstanding book. In the course of The Paper Road: Archive and Experience in the Botanical Exploration of West China and Tibet (University of California Press, 2011), Erik Mueggler weaves together the stories of two botanists traveling through western China and Tibet in a lyrically-written story that treats the nature of writing, bodies, beauty, images, violence, and history in creating experiences of the earth. The characters are compelling, the story is important, and the work speaks to readers well beyond the field of East Asian Studies. Listen to Mueggler’s comments, and then read the book. You will learn much, as I certainly did. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
First things first: this is an outstanding book. In the course of The Paper Road: Archive and Experience in the Botanical Exploration of West China and Tibet (University of California Press, 2011), Erik Mueggler weaves together the stories of two botanists traveling through western China and Tibet in a lyrically-written story that treats the nature of writing, bodies, beauty, images, violence, and history in creating experiences of the earth. The characters are compelling, the story is important, and the work speaks to readers well beyond the field of East Asian Studies. Listen to Mueggler’s comments, and then read the book. You will learn much, as I certainly did. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
First things first: this is an outstanding book. In the course of The Paper Road: Archive and Experience in the Botanical Exploration of West China and Tibet (University of California Press, 2011), Erik Mueggler weaves together the stories of two botanists traveling through western China and Tibet in a lyrically-written... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
First things first: this is an outstanding book. In the course of The Paper Road: Archive and Experience in the Botanical Exploration of West China and Tibet (University of California Press, 2011), Erik Mueggler weaves together the stories of two botanists traveling through western China and Tibet in a lyrically-written story that treats the nature of writing, bodies, beauty, images, violence, and history in creating experiences of the earth. The characters are compelling, the story is important, and the work speaks to readers well beyond the field of East Asian Studies. Listen to Mueggler’s comments, and then read the book. You will learn much, as I certainly did. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
First things first: this is an outstanding book. In the course of The Paper Road: Archive and Experience in the Botanical Exploration of West China and Tibet (University of California Press, 2011), Erik Mueggler weaves together the stories of two botanists traveling through western China and Tibet in a lyrically-written... Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/chinese-studies