After All: A Mary Tyler Moore Podcast

This week it's all about style and interior design. Lou wants to redecorate his living room as a surprise for his wife while she's away at a fat farm (yeah, we know). But he can't do it alone, so he enlists Mary's help in finding a designer, and she just so happens to know the perfect person for the job — Rhoda. Styles clash and needs aren't perfectly met, but the simplest solutions turn out to be the best fixes. Meanwhile, we chat about ... well, interior design. And it wouldn't be an episode of After All if we didn't toss gender roles, socially-imposed stereotypes, and a whole lot of cultural dissection into the mix. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at @AfterAllPodcast, or shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson

This week's episode, originally recorded *checks watch* last June(?!), definitely reads differently in our current climate. Rhoda is unceremoniously fired from her job and spends a week loafing around, mildly depressed, on Mary's couch. Mary tries to be encouraging but winds up not pushing her at all to find a new job, whereas Phyllis leans into the tough love approach with little self-awareness. In the end, she finds the perfect job and everything's great! Meanwhile, the conversation in this particularly digressive episode, Ariel talks about the life-changing impact of losing a job that crushes your soul, the scary reality of working as a full-time freelancer in our current (read, 2019) economy, and how hard it can be to bounce back from being fired. Oh, Ariel also "guilts" Silvia over an idiom. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at @AfterAllPodcast, or shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson

It only took us 9 months but we're back with some banked episodes from last year, before ... well, everything. This week, Lou finds out something unsettling about his favourite son-in-law — he was planning on cheating on his wife, Lou's daughter, and having an affair. This episode discusses the various issues with toxic masculinity of the day, including the presentation of adultery as a kind of right of passage and proof of machismo. We talk about sex, mutual pleasure, and so much more! Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at @AfterAllPodcast, or shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson

And we're back! After what felt like forever, but was really seven months, we are back! Unfortunately, life just got in the way at the tail end of last year and the beginning of this one, so we had to take a bit of a personal leave of absence. But now we're back with a missing episode! Back in November it turned out we were missing episode 9. Something went wrong with the recording, and more than half of it was just gone. So, now we've gone back and re-recorded that episode for you! Episode 9 "And Now, Sitting In For Ted Baxter" exposes the truth about why Ted never takes vacation: he knows he sucks at his job and doesn't want to be replaced. What should be a beautiful teaching moment for him just seems to reinforce his more negative traits, but we're along for the ride to dig into it. Along the way we touch on tokenism - in our cases both as women and as Jewish people - poorly-chosen comments from the Editor-in-Chief of the Atlantic, abortion bans, and what happens when only men are allowed in the room. There's a lot to chew on this week, so tune in, sit back, and enjoy! Don't forget you can catch us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at @AfterAllPodcast, or shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson A Modern Superior Podcast

This week is all about superstition! Lou sends a chain letter to everyone in the WJM office, and Mary is tempted to trash the thing and break the chain. Lou, however, guilts her into keeping up with it. Through this, she has the great misfortune of being reconnected with a man from hers - and Rhoda's - past: Armand Linton! Through Mr. Linton's heinous codependence, we discuss bad dates, the many fish (and 14 billion pounds of trash) in the sea, the do's and don'ts of dating etiquette, and much more. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show, and follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. You can also email us at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson A Modern Superior Podcast

As the writers and anchors of WJM-TV go on strike, Lou and Mary are left to fend for themselves as best they can. Meanwhile we discuss some of the larger strikes in US history, as well as the expectations placed on us under pressure and how we perform. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show, and follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. You can also email us at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson A Modern Superior Podcast

Mary reluctantly attends her high school reunion, only to find the obnoxious Howard Arnell in attendance, and herself at the mercy of former classmates' ire. Meanwhile, Rhoda tags along in the hopes of finding a man. Shoes are removed, socks have holes - it's a whole thing! So we're talking about our experiences in high school, what high school reunions are really like, and how truly disconcerting it is that Rhoda finds no value in her life without a man. We discuss women being held responsible for men's actions, Mad Men, Good Girls Revolt, and Michelle McNamara. All this and so much more in this fully-loaded episode! Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show, and follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. You can also email us at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson A Modern Superior Podcast

In Cover Boy, Ted's brother comes to town. But their relationship is complicated and full of insecurity and resentment on both sides. Meanwhile, we discuss sibling rivalry, the difference between male and female insecurities, how we cope, and so much more! Fun Fact: Jack Cassidy, who plays Ted's brother Hal Baxter, was actually the inspiration for Ted's character! Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the show, and follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. You can also email us at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson A Modern Superior Podcast

Ida Morgenstern is back in town, and this time she's determined to make Rhoda into her best friend! Yup, matching outfits and all. So we're talking about our relationship over the years, from Ariel's teen years into adulthood (whatever that means!) Along the way, Silvia talks about her relationship with her mother, how to form good, healthy relationships with our parents, the troubled teen years and the hell they cause, and Ariel shares a traumatic story from her youth. It's a lovely episode this week with lots of personal stories, so tune in and enjoy!  Don't forget to find us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram, or shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com! Logo design by Julia Monson A Modern Superior Podcast

This week, Mary decides it's time to go back to school! Frustrated by her lack of certain skill sets at WJM, she enrolls in a television journalism class to broaden her abilities. Along the way she may or may not catch the eye of her teacher, too. Meanwhile, we talk about women working by choice, going back to school on your own dime, women working in media, and the hard parts of being a woman in a male-dominated field.  Don't forget to check us out on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, or shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson A Modern Superior Podcast

Mary and Rhoda decide to take a vacation to Mexico! But in the process of getting hooked up with the ultimate deals on accommodations, they fear they've been roped into becoming drug mules! So, naturally, we're talking about travel agents, travelling, and subtle racism! Because that just makes all the sense! Tune in this week for all the fun!  Don't forget to look us up on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, or shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com - we love to hear from you!

This week, we're talking all about blind dates, fix-ups, and where they go wrong while Lou tries to set Mary up with his best friend, Cooper. *SPOILER* It does not go well! It's a super light, super simple episode with a ton of laughs, so sit back, tune in, and enjoy!  Of course, as always, share some of your stories with us on Facebook or Twitter! What nightmare fix-ups have you had to endure? Or did you meet the love of your life on a blind date? Tell us! We're dying to know!  Be sure to check out the show on iTunes! Rate the show, subscribe, and write a little review to help others find us! We're also available on Stitcher, Google Play Music, SoundCloud, and the Pocket Casts app. Follow us or shoot us a message on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, or by email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Toronto artist Julia Monson.

We're back with the second season of the Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Birds and ... um ... Bess! And the second season of The Mary Tyler Moore Show is pulling no punches! It all starts off with a bang ... pun intended. After WJM-TV airs a special on sexual education and finding out your sex IQ, Mary scores incredibly high. As a result, Phyllis enlists her to help teach Bess about sex! It's an eye-opening episode, as Ariel and Silvia talk about their experiences growing up and learning about sex for the first time, the current situation with the Ontario sex ed curriculum, and that sex should be pleasurable for women ... something we can't really believe we need to say! Join us on Twitter and Facebook, and share your stories of learning about sex for the first time!  Apologies for the sound quality. We'll do better going forward, we promise! Be sure to check out the show on iTunes! Rate the show, subscribe, and write a little review to help others find us! We're also available on Stitcher, Google Play Music, SoundCloud, and the Pocket Casts app. Follow us or shoot us a message on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, or by email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Toronto artist Julia Monson.

This week, Lou's job is at risk, so Mary rallies the troops to come to his aid. It takes the help of the rowdy new station owner, Wild Jack Munroe (Slim Pickens), to get Lou reinstated. All in all, it's a relatively innocuous end to the first season of The Mary Tyler Moore Show. However, that doesn't stop us from making it a great end to our first season of After All: A Mary Tyler Moore Podcast! We take the opportunity to discuss some of our favourite episodes this season, what we're looking forward to in season two, and cliffhangers! Naturally, we had to talk about Dallas, and who shot J.R.? So tune in one last time this season, and we'll see you again in September!   Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, or send us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Let us know what some of your favourite moments were of season 1, what you're looking forward to most in season 2, or just say Hi! We love to hear from you! We'll be back with all new episodes of After All: A Mary Tyler Moore Podcast on Tuesday, September 18th! Logo design by Julia Monson A Modern Superior Podcast

The focus this week is on none other than our favourite Rhoda Morgenstern! The new man in her life, Chuck Pelligrini, seems too good to be true; he has all kinds of free time, tons of money, strange connections ... Rhoda and Mary start to suspect he may be part of the mob. But after bringing Rhoda to meet his Godfather, Chuck confesses he's actually a former CEO who left his $30,000/year job ($185,822.11 today!) to become a forest ranger. Yep, Smokey the Bear wants Chuck! And Rhoda isn't totally sure how she feels about his new career objectives. As we discuss Chuck going back to school to fulfill his passion for forestry, Silvia discusses what she'd do if she could start all over, and Ariel shares what's really stopping her from reaching her full potential. We discuss dashed dreams, missed opportunities, how we feel about our accomplishments, and the fine art of self-sabotage. We also discuss the way we compromise in relationships for the other person, sometimes self-sacrificing along the way, and the limitations we place on ourselves as women, refraining from certain things or missing out. There's just one episode left in season 1! Next week, we wrap up, and then it's reruns until September 2018! Let us know what you're looking forward to next season, what you liked about our first season, and anything else you'd like to share! We love to hear from you! Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

The new receptionist at WJM-TV is a "friend" from Mary's past; a sweet-as-pie woman named Twinks that Mary went to camp with ... 18 years ago! They haven't seen each other since. Until now, of course. And Twinks behaves as though not a single day had gone by, putting Mary on the spot to behave like her best friend in the world, and fill in as Maid of Honour at her wedding. Until her real best friend shows up, that is.  As we mosey through the episode, we discuss toxic friendships from our past, and the truth about friendships as adults - they're hard!  Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, or shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Only two more episodes left until the end of Season 1! Then it's reruns until September! Let us know what you thought of the first season, what you're looking forward to in season 2, and anything else you'd like to share! Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

Lou and his wife, Edie, have split up. The cause? After marrying off their last of three daughters, Edie decided she wanted something more than motherhood - she went back to college! But Lou doesn't approve, not understanding what more a housewife and mother could possibly want out of life. He learns the error of his ways, but not before Ariel is utterly shocked at what comes out of his mouth. Meanwhile, Silvia recounts her life as a young newlywed at 23, not having kids until 28, and the impact of having time to yourself to grow as an individual, and time to yourselves as newlyweds to learn your new dynamic.    We're talking about the sexism of the day, how it's mostly different now, and how our privilege as white women and Canadian women in 2018 affords us certain luxuries compared to women in 1970's USA.  Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, or reach out to us by email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

Mary's mortified in this week's episode as she has to have her tonsils out. Her roommate - yep, in 1971, a tonsillectomy was an in-patient procedure - is a gruff, sassy broad whose manpanion comes by for a visit in between fights. And who is this dame with the 'tude? None other than the incomparable Pat "Urusla" Carol! Meanwhile, Silvia and Ariel talk about the realities of hospital stays, privatized medicine, US health care, and Adam Ruins Everything: Healthcare.  You can find us at @AfterAllPodcast on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, and be sure to rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

In this week's episode, written by the prolific Gail Parent, Murray's real ambitions come to the fore: he's been moonlighting as a playwright. With little success until now, a small local theatre has finally agreed to produce his play, as Mary and Ted star! Unlike the fantasy Murray has in his head, however, it does not do well.  Meanwhile, Ariel and Silvia are discussing long-term goals, creative aspirations, the harsh reality about creative endeavours, rejection, failure, and the significance of critical success. Be sure to follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, or shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Rate, review and subscribe to the show on iTunes! Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

This week, Mary gets burgled ... TWICE!  What ensues is a load of shtick from two cops doing their best Abbot and Costello impression, a relentless barrage of women being referred to as "girls", and some grossly inappropriate conduct (that Rhoda, naturally, quickly puts in its place.) Along the way, Ariel and Silvia recount their own stories of being burgled, the ensuing feeling of violation, and what it takes to recover from such an incident.  It's episode 18, which means just six episodes left this season! Have a favourite moment from the show thus far? Let us know! We're also starting to take suggestions for supplemental reading and viewing until next September when we'll be back with season 2, so shoot us a message on Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter, or feel free to send us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

Mary finds herself smitten with WJM-TV's returned globe-trotting reporter, John Corcoran. There's just one tiny problem - he's still married. Though separated, Mary can't quite shake the feeling that she's being played.  While Mary sorts through her moral conundrum - to date the dashing, separated man, or not? - we discuss the dangers of charming men, being in one-sided, and manipulative relationships. We also discuss the double standard of Lou commending John for his globe-trotting and bed-hopping ways, while looking down his nose at Mary for being attracted to him. From John's total disregard for the institution of marriage, his unwillingness to just get divorced, and what that says of his subtle abuse of his wife, to the ways women are pitted against each other in society at large, White Feminism, Intersectional Feminism, and so much more, this is definitely a fully loaded episode you won't want to miss!   Subscribe to the show on iTunes, and follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

This week sees an interesting change of events as Mary is offered a new job at another network producing a women's talk show. The new job means more money, her own office, an assistant ... and she doesn't want any of it. The main reason? She can't stand the idea of saying goodbye to her WJM family.  As we look at Mary's indecisiveness about taking the new job, we discuss the importance of demanding fair pay as women, Phyllis's pragmatism, and the pejorative language of referring to women as girls. All this and so much more! Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes. Find us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, or send us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

This week, Mary goes on a date with Paul Arnell. Only catch is she has to go through his parent's first. You see, she briefly dated their son, Howard, inviting him for a mixer back in Episode 2, Today I Am A Ma'am. He never really got over her, and neither did they. We discuss the difficulty of living in the shadow of a sibling, parental favouritism, and the insecurities that come with being a perpetual disappointment. This and so much more as we return from a relaxing holiday break!  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, as well! Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

As Christmas rounds the corner, Mary finds herself forced to work not only Christmas day, but Christmas eve as well. Spending her first Christmas away from home was one thing, but now she's forced to spend it alone, too. Things take a delightful turn towards the end of the episode, while Ariel and Silvia discuss celebrating Christmas as an adult, and as a Jew, the truth behind Chanukah, some of our favourite Christmas movies, and the fine art of coordinating blended families during the holidays.  Rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes! Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram! From our family to yours, have a happy Channukah, a merry Christmas, happy holidays, and a happy new year! Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

IMDb's synopsis for this week's episode is grossly misleading: Mary must deal with the amorous advances of WJM's obnoxious, and very young, new cameraman. Well, those "amorous advances" are really workplace sexual harassment. We dig pretty deep into this one, while discussing our own experience with sexual harassment and assault, at work and elsewhere. It's heavy, with clips from the episode that were truly shocking to both of us, in spite of their happy-go-lucky 1970's charm. So please, be aware, that this episode may contain triggers for survivors of sexual assault. Rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

Mary volunteers Ted to speak at Phyllis's women's club, only to have him melt down when asked about Women's Liberation. Meanwhile, Ariel and Silvia discuss our continuing issues with Phyllis, the fragility of the male ego, artistic intent, the privilege of perspective, and the age old question: could men drink coffee before there were women to make it for them?  You can find us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, and be sure to rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

This week we embrace some of The Mary Tyler Moore's lighter fare as Mary gets her taxes done by an amorous tax man, and has a few charming, if awkward, dates. We discuss some of our painfully awkward dates, the appeal of charmingly awkward men, and the fine art of taking a hint.  Rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes, and follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

Mary's swamped at WJM-TV, so she hires a secretary: Phyllis! But what started as a good idea quickly becomes a mistake, as Phyllis proves to be terrible at her job. When Mary has to fire her, Phyllis lets her true colours shine in a way we did not anticipate. We discuss the abject insecurity of being "just" a wife and mother that seems to influence much of Phyllis's character, the roles women are socialized to play, the pressure put upon women to be and do everything, the myth of the work-life balance, and so much more.  Subscribe to the show on iTunes, find us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, or email us at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

It's a jam packed episode this week, as Rhoda's new boyfriend, Bob, falls for Mary, who is nominated for a Television Editor's Award - AKA a Teddy. Meanwhile, we discuss the first real conflict between Mary and Rhoda, toxic friendships, autonomy, love, and Rhoda's continued portrayal as a fiercely independent woman whose endgame is still, for some reason, matrimony.  Rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes, and find us everywhere @AfterAllPodcast. Logo design by Julia Monson.

This week, Lou puts Mary in charge of election night coverage, while a blizzard completely cuts the WJM-TV team off from the results. Things get hectic as the crew begins to mutiny, and Mary has to make some uncomfortable decisions. While looking at the episode, Ariel and Silvia discuss the fine art of commanding authority while Female, the difficulty of being a woman in a leadership role for the first time, the importance of support when you just can't believe in yourself, and the dreaded B-word ... Bossy!

Mary fills in for Ted while interviewing author Eric Matthews (Hamilton Camp) about his new book. During the segment, he asks Mary out, but there's just one teeny tiny catch - he's nearly a full head shorter than her. While going through this week's episode, Ariel and Silvia discuss the social strata of high school, confidence, finding your place, and standing out as an immigrant and a younger sibling.  Rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes, and follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

This week, Rhoda's mother, Ida, comes to town! Mary's forced to watch over her as Rhoda deals with their complicated relationship. As we work through the episode, we talk about regressing around our parents, the freedom that comes from independence, and the difficulty of being an adult, while also discussing the role of Jews in television at the time. Tune in on iTunes, and don't forget to rate and review the show. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, or email us at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Toronto artist Julia Monson.

This week, WJM's on the hunt for a new sportscaster just as luckless former pro-football player Frank Carelli (John Schuck) comes to town. An old friend of Lou's, Mary pushes Frank to audition, despite having no aptitude for broadcasting. In the end, he finds his purpose in the unlikeliest of places that seems the perfect fit. We discuss how careers used to define an entire generation of men, how we now look to our careers to find deeper meaning and satisfaction in life, and the shifting nature of our own purpose in what we do and how we do it. Rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes, and don't miss a thing by following us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Shoot us an email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com.

This week on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Mary and Rhoda join the Better Luck Next Time Club, a group for divorced people looking to socialize and maybe meet a new spouse. Their reasoning? There's supposedly cheap flights to Paris involved. Things quickly spiral out of control thanks to their little white lie, and Mary has to come clean about their deception. Along the way, Ariel and Silvia talk about the stigma of being divorced, the greater stigma of being a single 30-something woman, and the pressure to pair up.  You can find us on iTunes! Please rate the show, subscribe, and write a little review. Follow us or shoot us a message on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, or by email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com. Logo design by Toronto artist Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

This week, Mary plays mommy to Phyllis' precocious little girl, Bess. After a chicken pox scare, Bess goes to stay with Mary for a few days. But once the risk of infection is over, Bess doesn't want to go home. Tune in as we discuss everything from the difficulties of parenting and the pressures of being a mom, to hypochondria and cheesy montages.   Rate, review, and subscribe to the show on iTunes, and follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Logo design by Julia Monson. A Modern Superior Podcast

Welcome back to After All: A Mary Tyler Moore Podcast! This week, Ariel and Silvia are discussing the second episode of season 1, "Today I Am A Ma'am". After finding out they're no longer part of the "young demographic," Mary and Rhoda decide to take their singledom into their own hands by having a little gathering at Mary's apartment. Naturally, calamity ensues. The result is an in-depth conversation about the fine art of feeling like an adult (and the realization that you never really do), the Ms. versus Ma'am conundrum, taking his name and (potentially) losing your autonomy, clingy dates, toxic masculinity, and holding men accountable for their actions. There's much to discuss, so tune in! You can find us on iTunes, so rate and subscribe! And follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, or reach out by email at afterallpodcast@gmail.com A Modern Superior Podcast Logo design by Julia Monson

Welcome to After All: A Mary Tyler Moore Podcast! This is a podcast dedicated to discovering and rediscovering the social, political, and personal impact of the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Hosted by mother-daughter duo Ariel Fisher (freelance writer and A Frame Apart co-host) and Silvia MacCon (co-founder and board member of Thornhill Lifelong Learning), the show started with the passing of Mary Tyler Moore on January 25th, 2017. Having never seen The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Ariel felt she needed to discover this essential piece of feminist television. But she didn't want to do it alone. Bringing her mother, Silvia, into the podcasting world, the two plan to discover (for Ariel's first time) and rediscover (as Silvia revisits the show she last watched as a teenager) this landmark in television history, while discussing the impact of each episode. This week we are starting at the very beginning ("a very good place to start!") with Episode 1 - Love Is All Around, wherein we first meet Mary Richards. Having relocated to Minneapolis after breaking it off with her boyfriend, Mary applies for a job as a secretary and winds up as an associate producer at WJM-TV, finds a beautiful new apartment, makes a new best friend, and begins her new life as an independent woman.  Logo design by Toronto artist Julia Monson.