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From RainStream Media in Seattle, comes the true story of hosts David Payne and Jody Gottlieb re-investigating the 2001 murder of Assistant United States Attorney, Tom Wales. Join the former CNN producers in their attempts to break this cold case wide open, by following new leads and re-examining th…

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    • Dec 1, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 29m AVG DURATION
    • 45 EPISODES


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    S3 Episode 11 (Bonus) - The Scorpion and the Frog

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2022 23:51


    In this bonus episode, Payne updates everyone on Arky Tuminelli, Ken Ravenell, and Nacoe Brown.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Introducing CounterClock Season 4 (with SBSW Inside)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2022 13:07


    Somebody Somewhere writer and producer David Payne joins CounterClock's Delia DÁmbra as she investigates the unsolved death of a 17-year-old boy named John Robert Welles. David and Delia sit down to discuss what listeners can expect in the upcoming Season 4 of CounterClock.    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 11 (Bonus)- The Music of SBSW

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2021 12:00


    Payne shares the full versions of the intro and outro songs used in Somebody Somewhere as well as a song written by Nacoe Brown. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 10 (Bonus) - From the Prison to the Palace

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 35:00


    In this Bonus episode, Nacoe and Vanassa Brown tell the story of the bank robberies and their personal love story. You can reach Nacoe at www.josephg.org, and contribute to his second chance on GoFundMe (Nacoe Brown Campaign). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 9 - The Phoenix

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 31:28


    In the Season 3 finale, Payne summarizes the evidence and debunks one of the FBI's main theories.  And in a story of redemption and hope, Payne jumps in to help his new friend. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 8 - The Missing Money

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 25:36


    Key witnesses from the missing money case tell their stories for the first time, including the federal district court judge and Jonathan Luna's co-counsel. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 7 - Nacoe of Nazareth

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 34:29


    Payne goes deep down the rabbit hole exploring Nacoe Brown's claims about the missing money, and he's inspired and confounded at what he finds. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 6 - The Defense Lawyer

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 27:12


    New (2019) allegations against Nacoe Brown's defense lawyer for conspiracy give new light to claims that he may have been involved with the missing money eighteen years prior. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 5 - Character Assassination

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 31:10


    When Jonathan Luna goes missing, the press makes an immediate connection with a bank robbery case that he had tried the year before in which the cash evidence was stolen. And the cast from the Stash House Records case is back for this prequel. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 4 - The Magic Knife

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 28:52


    Leaked theories about a suicide don't seem to square with the known physical evidence from the crime scene. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 3 - Amazing Grace

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 27:51


    Jonathan's last case goes sideways on him when it is discovered that his cooperating witness was dealing drugs and terrorizing the neighborhood while working for the FBI. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 2 - Stash House Records

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 32:29


    Jonathan Luna was operating in a toxic work environment when he undertook the last trial of his life -- a federal drug conspiracy case against two men selling drugs out of a rap music studio in Baltimore. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S3 Episode 1 - Grey

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 29:07


    Jody Gottlieb and David Payne team up again to investigate the unsolved death of federal prosecutor Jonathan Luna in 2003.  They talk with his friends and investigative reporters about Jonathan's life and its mysterious last six hours. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Season 3 - Trailer

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2021 1:06


    Season 3 of Somebody Somewhere explores the unsolved death of federal prosecutor Jonathan Luna in 2003.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    S2 Episode 10: The Verdict

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2019 32:14


    In this special epilogue episode, Payne is back in court for the second retrial of the 2016 Jungle Murders, hoping to find resolution.

    S1 Episode 14 - The Art of Being Right

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2019 33:45


    After federal sources confirm to the Seattle Times our reporting of a connection between Shawna Reid and a convicted extortionist, Payne gives his educated predictions on what to expect next in this case.

    S1 Episode 13 - The First Indictment

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2019 30:06


    After 18 years, the government has made its first arrest. Investigators have charged 34-year-old Shawna Reid with lying to a grand jury and obstruction of justice relating to conversations she may or may not have had with someone bragging about the murder of Tom Wales. Payne and Gottlieb dig into the curious allegations.

    Introducing "Hell And Gone"

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2019 3:31


    Now in its second season, Hell And Gone is a podcast from iHeartRadio and School of Humans that follows writer and private investigator Catherine Townsend as she investigates unsolved deaths in small-town Arkansas This season, she dives into the mysterious death of Janie Ward, a 16-year old high school student who died at a party in 1989 in Marshall, Arkansas. In the 30 years since her death, no one has been able to determine how she died even though there have been multiple investigations and her body has been autopsied three times. Season 1 investigated the cold-case murder of Rebekah Gould, a beautiful and popular college student who was killed in 2004.

    S2 Episode 9 - Groundhog Day

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2019 28:40


    Armed with what they've learned, Payne and Gottlieb return to Kent for the retrial of the 2016 Jungle Murders in their search for the truth...and hope.

    S2 Episode 8 - The Meeting at the Tent

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2019 33:47


    One of the victims shares what she believes happened the night of the 2016 Jungle Murders when she was shot and critically wounded, and the pressure she is under to fall in line.

    S2 Episode 7 - Who are the Good Guys?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2019 29:07


    Payne and Gottlieb explore the King of the Jungle's claims of piety and stumble upon a firefighter who's been burned by his encounter with him.

    S2 Episode 6 - The New King of the Jungle

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2019 29:25


    Payne and Gottlieb venture into the Jungle to sit down with its current King who claims he's found the Lord.

    S2 Episode 5 - Run OJ Run

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2019 34:33


    The government's theory of the case in the 2016 Jungle Murders trial is supported by ample evidence, but it appears to ignore the greater context of the Jungle and its history.

    S2 Episode 4 - Phat Serves Fat

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2019 27:46


    As the new King and Queen of the Jungle ascend the throne, the first hint of trouble comes.

    S2 Episode 3 - Too Big to Fail

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2019 35:42


    By design and nature, criminal trials are mere snapshots of an isolated event. Payne and Gottlieb go back in time to explore the roots of the 2016 Jungle Murders, including the federal indictment and takedown of the Vietnamese Gang that ran the Jungle's drug trade.

    S2 Episode 2 - Out of Luck

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2019 35:36


    As police try to find their "person of interest" in the Jungle Murders, an unusual informant comes forward to them to tell them he's solved the crime.

    S2 Episode 1 - The Search for the King of the Jungle

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2019 38:32


    After sitting in on the mistrial of the teenagers charged with the 2016 Jungle Murders, Payne and Gottlieb explore the political consequences spawned by the murders and begin their independent investigation into this unresolved, two-year-old case.

    S1 Episode 15 - Don't F with the Kraken

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2019 40:24


    As the Federal Government continues its public pressure campaign against Shawna Reid, it's starting to become clearer why.  Join David Payne and Jody Gottlieb as they unravel the latest details with the help from internet sleuth "The Kraken." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Season 2 - The Jungle Murders Trailer

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2019 1:00


    Murder in a Seattle homeless encampment known as The Jungle. Three teenage brothers were charged, but are they the real killers? Only The Jungle knows. Join former federal prosecutor David Payne and producer Jody Gottlieb as they investigate. Somebody Somewhere Season 2: The Jungle Murders premieres June 11, 2019.

    S1 Episode 12 - Occam's Razor

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2019 48:35


    In the second of four special epilogue episodes, Payne and Gottlieb uncover new information about the large sums of money being spent and made in the government's and Bell Helicopter Textron's joint efforts to ground 204B helicopters.

    S1 Episode 11 - 204B or Not 204B

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2019 39:57


    In the first of four special epilogue episodes, Payne and Gottlieb receive a mysterious envelope containing a 20-year-old investigative report from the Department of Transportation that leads them to dig further into the helicopter case that was at the center of the Tom Wales death investigation.

    S1 Episode 10 (Part 2) - For Whom the Bell Tolls

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2018 61:22


    In the Season One Finale, Payne and Gottlieb travel to Texas where they meet with two key witnesses who finally explain what was really going on with Bell Helicopters Textron and the FAA, and how it allegedly relates to Tom Wales' murder.

    S1 Episode 10 (Part 1) - The Unofficial Official Narrative

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 3, 2018 25:59


    Payne recaps the current narrative that exists around the story and explores the key question of what FBI agents know and when did they know it.

    S1 Episode 9 - The Karateew Matter

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2018 35:17


    Payne and Gottlieb travel to Lynden Washington to learn more about a suspicious plane crash and to uncover just what was going on in Hangar 3.

    S1 Episode 8 - The Nisha Call

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2018 43:05


    Payne and Gottlieb explore the prime suspect’s alibi and other exculpatory evidence, as well as the lengths to which the FBI would go to get their man.

    S1 Episode 7 - The Gun is the Key

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2018 41:19


    Payne and Gottlieb examine the ballistics evidence through a new lens and new details that they have uncovered in their investigation.

    S1 Episode 6 - The Prime Suspect

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2018 40:04


    The FBI locks in on their prime suspect, a commercial pilot, whose threats against Wales were impossible to ignore. Payne and Gottlieb track down a critical witness who relates what happened before and after the murder.

    S1 Special Episode - DOJ Press Conference (2.21.18)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2018 35:24


    US Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein headlines press conference announcing increased reward in case. Why now? At 29:23, Rosenstein denies his appearance is related to the launch of our podcast 3 weeks ago.

    S1 Episode 5 - The Assassination of Tom Wales

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2018 39:08


    Payne goes deep into Wales’ 18-year caseload as a prosecutor to find anyone with a possible motive to kill Wales for his work.

    S1 Breaking News Update

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2018 2:56


    The FBI has announced a press conference tomorrow in the case headlined by Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein.

    S1 Episode 4 - The Usual Suspects

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2018 41:18


    Payne and Gottlieb explore and re-examine the prevailing theories on the motive of Tom’s killer including his personal life and work for the gun control movement in Washington State.

    S1 Episode 3 - A Man Named Kimball

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2018 43:17


    An FBI informant may hold the keys to who killed Tom Wales. Payne and Gottlieb travel to Colorado to learn what he told the FBI.

    S1 Episode 2 - The Seattle Freeze

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2018 21:34


    Payne and Gottlieb return to the crime scene to understand what happened and to chase down a 16-year-old lead.

    S1 Episode 1 - Corporate Politics

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2018 32:28


    In the inaugural episode, Payne and Gottlieb explore what went wrong with the police and FBI investigation after federal prosecutor Tom Wales was assassinated in his basement.

    Somebody Somewhere - Trailer

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2018 1:26


    Coming in January 2018, an episodic investigation into the murder of Assistant United States Attorney, Tom Wales. This podcast re-examines the web of evidence and the FBI's efforts to track and arrest Wales' killer. After 16 years, the case remains unsolved, despite a $1 million dollar reward from the FBI. Join producers David Payne and Jody Gottlieb as they criss-cross the country searching for new evidence and leads.

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