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Welcome to “Not So Bad,” the podcast hosted by Patrick Jensen and Matt McLaren, two blind Australian men. Join us as we share candid and light-hearted conversations about family, careers, technology, and more. Get ready for a fresh perspective on navigating life’s twists and turns with humour and insight, proving that it’s all “Not So Bad” after all!

Matt McLaren and Patrick Jensen


    • May 13, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 40m AVG DURATION
    • 27 EPISODES


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    Chat with Jacko

    Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2025 56:02


    In this episode, we chat with support worker Jackson Besley about what the job actually looks like day-to-day—and why a bit of creativity and a good sense of humour go a long way. We talk about how he tailors support to each person, what makes a good support relationship, and how his long-standing friendship with Pat and Heather McCann has shaped his perspective. It's a relaxed, honest convo with someone who's clearly in it for the right reasons.

    Never Have i Ever - Xmas Special

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 25, 2024 58:43


    ```html In this Christmas special, Pat and Matt are back with part two of Never Have I Ever. Matt shares stories about his new guide dog, Violet, and how they're settling into life together. Meanwhile, Pat talks about his new passion for woodworking—though it seems his circular saw has everyone else a little on edge. To wrap things up, they answer some fantastic listener questions—huge thanks to everyone who sent them in! It's a relaxed festive chat with plenty of laughs. Merry Christmas from The Not So Bad Podcast! ```

    A chat with Erik (Pat's Dad) - Now its getting personal

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2024 40:37


    ```html What's it like parenting a child going blind? How do you even navigate something like that? In this episode, we chat with Pat's dad, Erik Jenson, about all of it—including some stories Pat probably wishes were left out! We explore how going blind impacted school, career choices, and more. But let's be honest—the big question we all want answered is: how does Pat still have any teeth left at all? Tune in for an honest, funny, and insightful conversation you won't want to miss. ```

    How good are the Meta Glasses? Next level game changer?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2024 29:50


    In this episode, we get a bit techy as we dive into how Meta Glasses, designed for a mainstream audience, have unexpectedly made life easier for the blindness community. From our own experiences, we share how they're helping with everyday tasks like cooking, video calling, and even picking the right pastry. It's a more tech-focused chat, but we promise to keep it fun.

    Championing Human Rights in the Age of AI with Ed Santow

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2024 47:06


    In this episode, we sit down with Ed Santow, former Australian Human Rights Commissioner and long-time advocate for marginalized communities. Ed shares his insights on the intersection of human rights and technology, exploring how AI can be both a tool for empowerment and a potential challenge for the most vulnerable among us. Tune in as we dive into the evolving role of AI in society, the responsibilities of tech creators, and how we can work toward a future where technology serves everyone fairly.

    Is it scary meeting someone that is blind??? Ask Nick Gill

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2024 35:58


      In this episode, we interview Nick Gill, who talks about meeting our co-host Matt for the first time and how their relationship developed both personally and professionally. We dive into the nuances of building connections in unexpected ways, with Nick offering some fascinating insights from his perspective. As always, there's plenty of fun, including a side tangent about some of the joke songs we've made over the years. It's a laid-back, entertaining conversation you won't want to miss. Mentioned in this episode: Yoto Player The Quokkas Lil Rick Nick's Number 1 Track

    Dr Karl Interviews the Not So Bad Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2024 71:37


    We were beyond stoked to have the one and only Dr. Karl Kruszelnicki on the podcast! What starts as a casual chat quickly turns into a fun and curious deep dive into his incredible life. We talk about everything from his new book to his parents' brave escape from Nazi Germany, his hippy days, and how he navigated the challenges of getting an education in a foreign country. Dr. Karl even shares his fascinating predictions about the future of medical science—and immortality! Of course, he couldn't help but ask us how blind people dream. It's mostly lighthearted, but just a heads-up, there are a few adult themes. Dr. Karl's new book, A Periodic Tale: My Sciencey Memoir, is available now! Grab your copy here. We're also beyond grateful for all your support in helping us reach Episode 20! We're stoked to be here, and we're just getting started. Follow us on Instagram for updates, behind-the-scenes content, and more fun: @notsobad.podcast.

    A Chat With Garth Humphreys

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2024 50:43


    This time on the Not So Bad Podcast, we're excited to chat with Garth Humphreys—a father, podcaster, and seasoned call center leader who is nearly completely blind. We cover a range of topics, from his journey to finding employment and navigating education to the joys and challenges of traveling as a blind couple. Garth also shares his insights on assistive tech and his experiences training others in a fun and relatable way. With his light-hearted humor and positive outlook, this episode is sure to entertain and enlighten. Tune in for a great conversation! Links: Audio Pizza Aira

    Let's get this show on the road

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2024 26:56


    Kicking off season 2 we're back to chat about all the changes that have been taking place in our lives including career changes, retiring guide dogs and everything in between. We even have an app for that ;)    There's an app for that: https://www.tripit.com/web    

    Where have we been?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2024 25:17


    Just a quick one to update on all the goings on and to explain where we've been for a few weeks. Stay Tuned for more coming very soon.

    But how do you even watch TV anyway?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2024 43:02


    Episode 16 - Not So Bad Podcast Episode 16 - Not So Bad Podcast Welcome to Episode 16 of the Not So Bad Podcast, hosted by Pat and Matt. In this episode, we dive into the world of audio description, showcasing how blind individuals can enjoy TV just like everyone else. We have the pleasure of interviewing Roy Samuelson, a talented and in-demand audio performer and voiceover artist based in LA, known for his work on numerous TV shows and films. Additionally, we speak with Alison Mires from The Substation in Sydney, who has been crucial in bringing audio description to Australia. For more information on audio description in Australia, visit TV4All. Join us for an insightful discussion on the impact and importance of audio description in entertainment.

    Never Have I Ever - Question Time

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2024 45:22


    Join us for an exciting episode of the "Not So Bad Podcast" where travel stories, tech tips, and listener questions converge. Matt kicks things off with tales from his Fiji getaway and an introduction to the innovative Clicks iPhone keyboard case. Learn more about it here. Pat shares insights on his new instant pot, a revolutionary tool for blind cooking. The heart of the episode is driven by your thought-provoking questions. We delve into a range of topics, including navigating public restrooms as a blind person, the sights you dream of seeing if you weren't blind, and practical tools like the Way Around App for accessibility. Join us as we explore these questions and more, where your curiosity shapes the show.

    A chat with Evan O'Hanlon

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2024 59:41


    Strap in for this light-hearted episode of the Not So Bad Podcast where we hang out with Evan O'Hanlan, a legend of the Paralympics and a gold medal collector like no other. Evan shares tales from his epic 18-year athletic career, and we attempt to tally up just how many times he's stood atop the podium—spoiler: it's a lot! Evan gives us the lowdown on what it's like to race at the Paralympics, juggle family duties, and shift gears into his new role as a disability access consultant. As we're wrapping up, Evan flips the script and puts our understanding of self-descriptions to the test. Are they useful or do they just make long zoom meetings even longer ;).

    Perfect Pitch, Echo Location and Other Super Powers

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2024 31:34


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    State of the Union

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2024 41:59


    Description: In this episode of the Not So Bad podcast, we strip away the sugarcoating and dive into the raw, unfiltered realities of living with site loss. Both of us are on vastly different paths when it comes to losing our sight, yet we find common ground in the day-to-day experiences that challenge and shape us. From the mundane to the downright bizarre, we share how site loss impacts our lives without the inspirational fluff. We also take a candid look at Aira, an app that's changing the game for the visually impaired, including a no-frills demo that shows what it's really like to rely on technology for something as basic as seeing. And, because life is never without its curveballs, Pat shares a recent “adventure” involving a car crash. Don't worry, he's not the villain in this story, but maneuvering through the chaos that ensued? That's a tale worth hearing. For more information about Aira, visit www.aira.io.

    Video games, Audio games, what's the difference anyway?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2024 44:44


    In episode 11 we chat with Ben Ritter and Everett Elam about their incredible work in the video gaming world for blind people. Yeah that's right blind people play video games too ;). We cover the current state of gaming accessibility,their amazing accessible scrabble app, what's coming up for these guys and loads more. We absolutely love chatting with people as passionate and creative as these guys. This was a treat. Links: The webist ewhere you can check out their work and upcoming projects: https://themisgames.com/ We chatted abbout the game jams and how cool amazing the projects coming out of them are. Whilst the one for feb 2024 has concluded you can still check out all the projects here: https://itch.io/jam/games-for-blind-gamers-3 and here: https://itch.io/jam/blind-accessible-game-jam-2 We also chatted about the game tournaments where both blind and sited players are competing on an equal playing field: https://blackscreengaming.com/

    A chat With Nas Campanella

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2024 35:58


    In this inspiring episode, we sit down with Nas Campanella, the National Disability Affairs Reporter for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC), and a familiar face on ABC News. Nas has been defying expectations since losing her sight at the age of six months, proving that vision is just one facet of the remarkable person she is. Join us as we delve into Nas's journey, from her early days as a newsreader for triple J, where she delivered the news for six impactful years until 2017, to her current role as a prominent voice in disability affairs reporting. Nas brings a unique perspective to the world of journalism, breaking barriers and challenging perceptions about what it means to be a news professional living with blindness. Beyond her illustrious career, Nas is also a devoted parent to a two-year-old boy. We explore the challenges and triumphs of parenting while navigating the world without sight. Nas shares her experiences, offering valuable insights into building a supportive and inclusive environment for her child. We were thrilled to have Nas on the podcast, and her passion, resilience, and warmth shine through in this conversation. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of Nas Campanella's incredible journey and how much she just generally kicks ass! Also in this episode we chat about the app Speaker Assistant. A new app to help blind people with presenting. https://apps.apple.com/au/app/speakers-assistant/id6476025339

    And we're back...

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2024 32:25


    Getting up to date to kick off the new year. We chat about travelling to japan, fishing and an app for that. Fish Angler: https://www.fishangler.com/

    NVDA, OSARA, GitHub and a sniffly nose

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2023 34:39


    In this episode we're lucky enough to speak with Jamie Teh and Scott Chesworth, about the incredible work that they are involved in with regards to software accessibility. Jamie is one of the cofounders of the screen reader NVDA which literally opens up access to computers for free across the entire world. In addition to this he also coded the accessibility plug-in for the Reaper recording software that allows it to be used by blind musicians all over the world. This podcast is edited using that very software. Scott is a musician and music producer himself and is an vocal advocate for accessibility across all facets of the music industry. It was an absolute treat to talk to these guys.

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    Learning about bark canoes with Bindi maps

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2023 47:55


    In this episode we try out some promising new tea from Bindy Maps and show how it helps us navigate around the Newcastle Museum and even find out about a bark canoe. Who would've thought it.  We also cover education as a blind person, where a guide dog sits on a plan and how Pat loves having conversations with people that aren't talking to him… lInks in this episode: Bindi Maps: https://bindimaps.com/ Jet Pets: Domestic & Overseas Pet Transport Services - Jetpets AUJetpets AUhttps://www.jetpets.com.au

    Going blind in Barli

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2023 35:16


    We chat with Shaun Pienta about how one day 15 years ago changed his life forever and how he has thrived since. Even with Pat leading him astray... We also show off the Envision Glasses and the accompanying app and how tech like this is changing the game for people living with blindness. Also check out some recent media we've been feature on. NBN News with Patrick Jenson: https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2023/10/20/vision-impaired-athlete-puts-skiing-on-hold/ Hit106.9 Ask me anything with Matt McLaren: https://omny.fm/shows/hit-newcastle-breakfast/ask-me-anything-matt-mclaren-gives-insight-into-pa Envision app and glasses: https://www.letsenvision.com/glasses Our new website: http://www.notsobadpodcast.com

    You can't bring that dog in here!

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2023 33:34


    Can blind people use phones and computers? Can guide dogs go in taxis? How do you find a missing airpod? Is Matt a scrabble champion? All these questions are answered plus a few more you probably didn't ask in episode 5. "Theres an app for that" focus this week is on Wordvoyance. CHeck it out here: https://apps.apple.com/my/app/wordvoyance/id1672135719

    Why don't you just go get a job.......

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2023 39:07


    In this episode we chat about: * IOS17 update * Assistive tech apps for reading things and describing photos * accessible agriculture, (its an app for plants.) * Pat's new career path and how the hell that happened * and the age old question, guide dog VS cane...... Very confusing... Links. Magnifyer: Plantin: Bird ID: Be My Eyes: Instagram: NotSoBad.podcast

    Blind Dates....... Get it?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2023 51:38


    Pat and Matt chat with their partners about blind relationships and all of the funny stories that go along with them.

    Out and about with Pat and Matt

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2023 38:10


    How often do blind people actually get lost? We chat about some of our experiences getting about and some of the ways we figure out what the hell is going on. Matt gets man handled and Pat ruins a lovely couple's night at a fancy restaurant. We touch on cane travel vs guide dog travel and how that works out everyday. Apps we mention for getting about. Moovit for real time travel info - https://moovitapp.com/sydney-442/poi/en-gb Next There FOr upcoming public transport departures - https://nextthere.com/ Tripview for trip planning - -https://transportnsw.info/apps/tripview For help with international travel with a guide dog you need to use https://www.jetpets.com.au/ Instagram - NotSoBad.Podcast

    Not So Bad - Introduction EP#1

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2023 32:12


    The awkward introduction of Matt and Pat. This episode is about how we met and what our plans are for the podcast. Who knows whether any of it will be how we plan it Does anyone even listen to episode one of a podcast? Check us out awkwardly talking about ourselves... Follow on instagram @NotSoBad.podcast

    Not So Bad Podcast (Trailer)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2023 0:48


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