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Gather 'round for the main event! The three of us list our top albums for the year 2017. If you haven't listenend to these yet, get on it! Our other works: [http://DownTownIsABand.com](http://downtownisaband.com/) [http://PodcastPlayl.ist](http://podcastplayl.ist/) [https://TheSoundAndTheStory.Show](https://thesoundandthestory.show/) Our social handles: [@NAFTpod](http://twitter.com/naftpod) for episode updates and to reach both of us, but mostly Brendan [@ThePodPlaylist](http://twitter.com/thepodplaylist) for podcast recommendations and to reach out only Brendan [@DavidKallison](http://twitter.com/davidkallison) for the man himself [Facebook](http://facebook.com/naftpod) for the Facebook type things [Instagram](http://instagram.com/NAFTpod) for short clips of the show and bloopers [PodChaser](https://www.podchaser.com/podcast/nobody-asked-for-this-541298) where you can rate and review the show, we'd really appreciate it! Nobody Asked For This is a part of the Podcast Advocate network. Go to [PodcastAdvocate.Network](http://PodcastAdvocate.Network) to find more great shows. Or reach out on Twitter [@PodcastAdvocate](http://twitter.com/PodcastAdvocate) or by Sign up for the [Podcast Advocate Newsletter here](http://podcastadvocate.network/newsletter-share-program) to get fortnightly updates on the podcast industry, podcast recommendations, and more! This podcast is made possible by the [Podiant.co](http://podiant.co) podcast hosting platform! If you want to host your own podcast, **get 14 days free and 25% off your first 3 months with code "pan" at signup**. It's the best. Stuff we talked about: [Chorus.fm](http://Chorus.fm) [Encore podcast](https://chorus.fm/podcasts) [Frank Turner - Songbook](https://song.link/album/us/i/1294429767) David's Top 5 [Katie Ellen - Cowgirl Blues](https://song.link/album/us/i/1234875110) [The Menzingers - After the Party](https://song.link/album/us/i/1167648174) [Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit - The Nashville Sound](https://song.link/album/us/i/1216344634) [Connor Oberst - Salutations](https://song.link/album/us/i/1192927046) [Phoebe Bridgers - Stranger in the Alps](https://song.link/album/us/i/1256607808) Aaron's Top 5 [Allison Weiss - Runaway](https://song.link/us/i/1242735314) [The Movielife - Cities in Search of a Heart](https://song.link/album/us/i/1257232767) [New Found Glory - Makes Me Sick](https://song.link/album/us/i/1199669383) [Paramore - After Laughter](https://song.link/album/us/i/1227049864) [Kesha - Rainbow](https://song.link/album/us/i/1253656856) Brendan's Top 5 [Paramore - After Laughter](https://song.link/album/us/i/1227049864) [Julia Michaels - Nervous System](https://song.link/album/us/i/1291360886) [Lights - Skin & Earth](https://song.link/album/us/i/1265874129) [Kesha - Rainbow](https://song.link/album/us/i/1253656856) [Lorde - Melodrama](https://song.link/album/us/i/1211010237) [David Kallison's book of poetry: My Day As A Ghost](https://www.amazon.com/My-Day-Ghost-David-Kallison/dp/1981492313/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520640346&sr=8-1&keywords=david+kallison&dpID=31kvFfkj3fL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch)
David Kallison, Aaron Wong, and Brendan Hutchins list our top albums for the year 2017. If you haven't listenend to these yet, get on it!
Recorded NAFT November 26, 2017 Tom DeLonge? More like Tom De-Long-gone from anything even remotely resembling reality. Our other works: [http://DownTownIsABand.com](http://downtownisaband.com/) [http://PodcastPlayl.ist](http://podcastplayl.ist/) [https://TheSoundAndTheStory.Show](https://thesoundandthestory.show/) Our social handles: [@NAFTpod](http://twitter.com/naftpod) for episode updates and to reach both of us, but mostly Brendan [@ThePodPlaylist](http://twitter.com/thepodplaylist) for podcast recommendations and to reach out only Brendan [@DavidKallison](http://twitter.com/davidkallison) for the man himself [Facebook](http://facebook.com/naftpod) for the Facebook type things [Instagram](http://instagram.com/NAFTpod) for short clips of the show and bloopers [PodChaser](https://www.podchaser.com/podcast/nobody-asked-for-this-541298) where you can rate and review the show, we'd really appreciate it! Nobody Asked For This is a part of the Podcast Advocate network. Go to [PodcastAdvocate.Network](http://PodcastAdvocate.Network) to find more great shows. Or reach out on Twitter [@PodcastAdvocate](http://twitter.com/PodcastAdvocate). Sign up for the [Podcast Advocate Newsletter here](http://podcastadvocate.network/newsletter-share-program) to get fortnightly updates on the podcast industry, podcast recommendations, and more! This podcast is made possible by the [Podiant.co](http://podiant.co) podcast hosting platform! If you want to host your own podcast, **get 14 days free and 25% off your first 3 months with code "pan" at signup**. It's the best. Stuff we talked about: [Chorus.fm](http://Chorus.fm) [Encore podcast](https://chorus.fm/podcasts) [The Joe Rogan Experience - #1029 - Tom DeLonge](https://www.mixcloud.com/TheJoeRoganExperience/1029-tom-delonge/) [Box Car Racer - My First Punk Song](https://song.link/us/i/69089) [David Kallison's book of poetry: My Day As A Ghost](https://www.amazon.com/My-Day-Ghost-David-Kallison/dp/1981492313/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520640346&sr=8-1&keywords=david+kallison&dpID=31kvFfkj3fL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch)
We welcome David Kallison to his first recording with us instead of correcting us! We warm up by talking about the contraversy surrounding one of the pillars of the genre, Brand New. Our other works: http://DownTownIsABand.com http://PodcastPlayl.ist https://TheSoundAndTheStory.Show Our social handles: @NAFTpod for episode updates and to reach both of us, but mostly Brendan @ThePodPlaylist for podcast recommendations and to reach out only Brendan @DavidKallison for the man himself Facebook for the Facebook type things Instagram for short clips of the show and bloopers PodChaser where you can rate and review the show, we’d really appreciate it! Nobody Asked For This is a part of the Podcast Advocate network. Go to PodcastAdvocate.Network to find more great shows. Or reach out on Twitter @PodcastAdvocate. Sign up for the Podcast Advocate Newsletter here to get fortnightly updates on the podcast industry, podcast recommendations, and more! This podcast is made possible by the Podiant.co podcast hosting platform! If you want to host your own podcast, get 14 days free and 25% off your first 3 months with code "pan" at signup. It's the best. Stuff we talked about: What Do We Do With The Art Of Monstorus Men? Chorus.fm Encore podcast Patton Oswalt's "You're enjoying me the wrong way" David Kallison's book of poetry: My Day As A Ghost
We welcome David Kallison to his first recording with us instead of correcting us! We warm up by talking about the contraversy surrounding one of the pillars of the genre, Brand New. Our other works: [http://DownTownIsABand.com](http://downtownisaband.com/) [http://PodcastPlayl.ist](http://podcastplayl.ist/) [https://TheSoundAndTheStory.Show](https://thesoundandthestory.show/) Our social handles: [@NAFTpod](http://twitter.com/naftpod) for episode updates and to reach both of us, but mostly Brendan [@ThePodPlaylist](http://twitter.com/thepodplaylist) for podcast recommendations and to reach out only Brendan [@DavidKallison](http://twitter.com/davidkallison) for the man himself [Facebook](http://facebook.com/naftpod) for the Facebook type things [Instagram](http://instagram.com/NAFTpod) for short clips of the show and bloopers [PodChaser](https://www.podchaser.com/podcast/nobody-asked-for-this-541298) where you can rate and review the show, we'd really appreciate it! Nobody Asked For This is a part of the Podcast Advocate network. Go to [PodcastAdvocate.Network](http://PodcastAdvocate.Network) to find more great shows. Or reach out on Twitter [@PodcastAdvocate](http://twitter.com/PodcastAdvocate). Sign up for the [Podcast Advocate Newsletter here](http://podcastadvocate.network/newsletter-share-program) to get fortnightly updates on the podcast industry, podcast recommendations, and more! This podcast is made possible by the [Podiant.co](http://podiant.co) podcast hosting platform! If you want to host your own podcast, **get 14 days free and 25% off your first 3 months with code "pan" at signup**. It's the best. Stuff we talked about: [What Do We Do With The Art Of Monstorus Men?](https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2017/11/20/art-monstrous-men/) [Chorus.fm](http://Chorus.fm) [Encore podcast](https://chorus.fm/podcasts) [Patton Oswalt's "You're enjoying me the wrong way"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH8japq5lz4) [David Kallison's book of poetry: My Day As A Ghost](https://www.amazon.com/My-Day-Ghost-David-Kallison/dp/1981492313/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520640346&sr=8-1&keywords=david+kallison&dpID=31kvFfkj3fL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch)
Briefly covering the rest of the political podcasts I recommend: 5 on 45 by The Brookings Institute, The New York Times ’ The Daily, WNYC’s The United States Of Anxiety, WNYC’s On The Media, Primary Concerns by The New Republic , and Radiotopia’s What Trump Can Teach Us About Con Law Please go to audibletrial.com/PodcastPlaylist to get a free audiobook of your choice, and support this show. It really helps, and is completely free to you. 5 on 45 by The Brookings Institute The New York Times’ The Daily WNYC’s The United States Of Anxiety WNYC’s On The Media Primary Concerns by The New Republic Radiotopia’s What Trump Can Teach Us About Con Law Can He Do That? by The Washington Post Civics 101 OPB's Think Out Loud OPB's Politics Now I will be back in a few months with a season on music podcasts. I hope you stay subscribed because I have some fun ideas planned, it'll just take some time. Thanks for your patience. In the meantime, I have started my own music podcast called Nobody Asked For This with my buddies Aaron Wong and David Kallison. Aaron and I talk about pop and pop-punk music, and when we get something wrong, David pauses and corrects us. It's silly and fun. I hope you like it.
The Sound And The Story with @DavidKallison Neurotic Tornado with @YuviZalkow The Longform Podcast interviewing Brian Reed, @BriHReed You are listening to Podcast Playlist, a podcast about podcasts, where I, Brendan Hutchins, share what I've been listening to, and why you should listen, too. I intend to keep the show safe for work, but as a warning, today's podcast contains explicit language. If that doesn't bother you, let's continue. Luckily, for the second episode of Podcast Playlist in a series devoted to S-Town, I've been able to connect with a few other podcasters and discuss many aspects of S-Town, the creative non-fiction masterpiece in audio form. For a spoiler-free overview of S-Town, please check out the previous episode. Be prepared for many spoilers as I discuss the show with a David Kallison of The Sound and the Story podcast and Yuvi Zalkow of the Neurotic Tornado podcast. I'm including clips from these conversations, but if you would like to hear the full interviews, I'm posting them in their entirety on my Patreon page at patreon.com/PodcastPlaylist. They clock in at over an hour each and both contain great perspectives on the music and literary aspects of S-Town. I'll also add some excerpts from the Longform podcast where Brian Reed is interviewed by the host, Max Linsky. First up, my interview with David. That was part of my conversation with David Kallison of The Sound and the Story podcast where he dives into a single album, picking apart each track and analyzing the lyrics in relation to the band members’ histories. It's a great listen. My favorite episode is about The album The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me by Brand New because it was not only an amazing album, but the amount of research and detail that David put in illustrated a real passion for music and this band. Links to the show will be in the show notes. Now, here are some more thoughts on S-Town with author, YouTuber, App Creator and podcaster Yuvi Zalkow. That was part of my conversation with Yuvi Zalkow of Neurotic Tornado. In his podcast, each season covers one or multiple relationships, and how they work, or don't work, over the long term. It gets wonderfully weird. The links will be in the show notes. If you'd like to hear the full interviews with David and Yuvi, please check out patreon.com/PodcastPlaylist. Lastly, here are some excerpts from the Brian Reed interview on The Longform podcast, a show about writing with the aim to uncover the story behind the story and story maker. That was Brian Reed, the host of S-Town, interviewed by Max Linsky of the Longform Podcast. I love that parts of the process come out in this interview that are so fascinating, like that Brian only met with John once, and yet he had an incredible pull to John, so much so that he wanted to go to his funeral. Also, the reasons for putting out all the chapters at once and how they framed it as a novel. I highly recommend listening to the full interview. Links to all of these shows will be in the show notes. This is the second episode of the first series from Podcast Playlist, just about S-Town. The full Spoiler-Town conversations with David Kallison of The Sound and the Story Podcast, and Yuvi Zalkow of Neurotic Tornado, will be available for patrons at patreon.com/PodcastPlaylist Please check it out. This episode was recorded in "yes, it rains a lot" Portland, Oregon. Writing, music, and narration by Brendan Hutchins, the producer and script editor was my amazing wife Sarah Hutchins, and moral support and infinite distractions were provided by Sebastian and Autumn (Sarah's and my cats). Send me your comments, suggestions, and recommendation success stories. I'm @ThePodPlaylist on twitter. I'll accept text or audio messages to ThePodcastPlaylist@gmail.com. You can leave a comment on the post at PodcastPlayl.ist where you can also see the show notes. Please subscribe and rate the show in iTunes, follow @thepodplaylist on twitter, and I'll talk to you next time. Happy listening. Peace.
For a readable version of the transcript, please check out You are listening to Podcast Playlist, a podcast about podcasts, where I, Brendan Hutchins, share what I've been listening to, and why you should listen, too. I intend to keep the show safe for work, but as a warning, today's podcast contains explicit language. If that doesn't bother you, let's continue. I listen to a lot of podcasts. I'm fortunate to have a job where I can spend all day listening to whatever I please, and most of the time, I choose podcasts. Podcasts have been a source of news and comedy and a way to learn about topics I've always been interested in and things I've never heard of. This is the first episode of Podcast Playlist in a series devoted to S-Town, an audio masterpiece that takes podcasting to a new level more akin to literature than you may expect. S-Town is by the producers of This American Life and Serial. I'll talk more about the producers in a future episode of this series and another episode will be called Spoiler-Town where I discuss themes and details with David Kallison from The Sound And The Story Podcast, but for now, this episode will be a spoiler-free dive into the story and experience of listening to S-Town. S-Town is a seven-part series, ranging from 48-63 minutes per episode, released all at once, for a total of six and a half hours. It's bingeable, right now. The main premise is about John B. McLemore, a clockmaker, in Alabama who contacts Brian Reed at This American Life about a murder that he believes was covered up by the police. However, the show is more about understanding the people of Woodstock, Alabama, what John calls Shit-town, their misunderstandings, their feuds, and their humanity. Should you listen to it? Yes. The crew behind this show is a group of seasoned producers and hosts, the audio quality and production is top of the line, and it's just a great story that you'll want to hear to the end and talk about with all your friends, and hopefully me! I'm @ThePodPlaylist on twitter. The podcast This American Life brought the established radio show to the medium of on-demand audio programming, which has always felt like the podcast equivalent of a magazine. Serial tweaked and played with that format to bring podcasts to a new level of popularity and awareness. According to an article in Wired, Serial was modeled after television, ending each episode with a cliffhanger. S-Town is the refinement of the medium to the mature artistic level podcasting deserves. I compare S-Town to This American Life and Serial not just because they're from the same creators, but because they are two of the most well-known podcasts, and they produce high-quality programming. To keep with the theme of a literary novel, each episode of S-Town is a chapter. Through the series and in each chapter, S-Town illustrates the human condition. In the first chapter, Brian defines proleptic, a word that John uses to describe the town. Proleptic, meaning the representation or assumption of a future act as if presently existing, is a theme throughout the series, with person after person declaring or claiming something to be true, when it hasn't happened, or at least not yet. Another prominent theme is horology, the study of time and making clocks. Here is a clip from the first chapter [CHI fixing a clock] With this, Brian is building a great analogy that sets a couple themes and ideas to hook the listener, but quickly the podcast is no longer following the original investigation. CHII(solved) S-Town is about a dead man, but that only scratches the surface. S-Town isn't about a town. It isn't about a murder. It isn't about a mystery. It's about people, the people of S-Town, specifically, one person from that town, an amazingly talented and troubled person—John B. McLemore, an antique horologist, conspiracy theorist, poet, semi-homosexual, chemist, masochist, canine caretaker, horticulturalist, altruist, mentor, pessimistic idealist, and atheist, yet he won’t let any of those things define him [CHVII how Johns see himself]. He is most often simply described by his friends as a genius, but he is also known by the townspeople for how he can talk for hours and is exhausting [∿∿∿ from CHII so you guys know John?] and he is not without his quirks [∿∿∿ from CHII piss in sink]. This may seem like a random or gross thing to do, but he's actually conserving water and fighting for his environmental beliefs. Halfway through the second episode, John becomes a friend, [CHI Calling out by sheer force] a person who you want to get to know deeply but shield your kids from, a person who is relatable, yet is fascinatingly new and different. [CHVII I'll never forget you] S-Town is about the literal and metaphorical maze that John has made, not just for Brian, but for everyone he's ever contacted, for the townspeople in S-Town, and now for everyone listening. [∿∿∿ from CHVI second investigation] The flow of the show is steady, starting new threads but wrapping up others along the way, and the season ends with a great resolution that is both bittersweet and utterly fascinating. [∿∿∿ from CHVII life death quarks] There's a lot of commentary in this show about small towns. [CHI town has a way of forgetting] When I was young, I lived in a small town here in Oregon, and this show has wonderfully captured that small town feel. [CHIII crud fuck town] but there's a fascinating other side to John's hatred for the town and people in it. He hates it because he loves it. It's two sides of the same gold-plated dime. S-Town is a great name for the show. Throughout that S has different meanings. Here is how I break down the chapters: Chapter I Shittown, Chapter II Social, Chapter III Self-destruction, Chapter IV Scavenger hunt, Chapter V Strife, Chapter VI Sexuality, Chapter VII Struggle. I will go into more detail about each in the upcoming Spoiler-Town episode. During chapters IV and V, the people of John's Shittown try to make their way through the maze of John's mind, and the world he has created, putting them through tests of will and morality and even making them question themselves and their actions. Here is Rita, John's cousin [CHV not a bad person 1] and here is Tyler, Johns apprentice, and friend [CHV not a bad person 2]. This may be exactly what John is hoping for as Brian analyzes in this clip [CHII why John is upset]. John relays a story of how the people around him see the world and the other people in it, and it takes some time for Brian to fully grasp John's analogy, but he does and explains it well. [CHII pants story] Some people argue that this series exploits the people in and around the story, but everyone agreed to be on the record for their interviews. John, after pushing away the friends in his life, reached out to Brian as a new companion. John not only uses Brian to help solve a murder, and expose the town of Woodstock to the light of day, but John also shares his 53-page manifesto while they were sitting together. John uses Brian as a biographer. [CHVII Brian reading John's manifesto] In addition to the incredible story, I find myself moved by the instrumental music used throughout as transitions and interludes. My head bobs as the plucked cello leads into the heavy beat. The music transports and engulfs me into the story. I'll be talking with David on the Spoiler-Town episode a little more about the music. Even though clips of interviews are played out of order for narrative effect, I can tell when Brian is interviewing based on his skill level, his comfort, and his questions, because during the three years that he devoted to this man and this town, he grows as an investigator and a reporter. I am very excited to see more from Brian Reed and the rest of the crew. S-Town is neither Serial nor a true-crime podcast. It's a journey through the degrading mind of a troubled genius. This podcast shines from its use of storytelling and analogies to convey morals and humanity. This isn't light listening but something that reflects a mirror on yourself and your community. S-Town is a well produced, enthralling, and thoroughly entertaining podcast. Like a great book, I didn't want to put it down; in fact, I listened through six times. S-Town gets better with each repeat experience. I'm so glad that John reached out to Brian, and they went on this journey together. You can find more at Stownpodcast.org, and the links will be in the show notes. This is the first series from Podcast Playlist, just about S-Town. My next episode will be Spoiler-Town, taking clips from my conversation with David Kallison of The Sound And The Story Podcast, and patrons at patreon.com/PodcastPlaylist will be able to hear the full hour and a half conversation where we are spoiling the entire series of S-Town, as well as diving into the music of the show. Please check it out. If you would like to support the show to keep the recommendations coming, please visit patreon.com/PodcastPlaylist. You can sign up for a small reoccurring patronage and get rewards like the aforementioned extra episodes and other bonuses. This episode was recorded in "keeping it weird" Portland, Oregon. Writing, music, and narration by Brendan Hutchins, the producer and script editor was my amazing wife Sarah Hutchins, the chief advisor was Yuvi Zalkow from the podcast Neurotic Tornado, and moral support and infinite distractions were provided by Sebastian and Autumn (Sarah's and my cats). Add meow ∿∿∿ Send me your comments, suggestions, and recommendation success stories. I'm @ThePodPlaylist on twitter. I'll accept text or audio messages to ThePodcastPlaylist@gmail.com. You can leave a comment on the post at PodcastPlayl.ist where you can also see the show notes. Please subscribe to this feed, rate the show in iTunes, follow @thepodplaylist on twitter, and I'll talk to you next time. Happy listening. Peace. S-Town
Mad Men Season Seven Part One. David Kallison joins us from BroJackson.com and The A.V. Club. We go character by character and do our best to make sense of one of our favorite shows. Follow David on twitter @davidkallison and read him at BroJackson and The Onion A.V. Club. An Hour with Your Ex is a Chicago based podcast hosted by Mel Evans and Mark Colomb. Mad Men is a show on AMC starring Jon Hamm. This last bit is for SEO. Go see markcolomb.com if you get bored. Watch one of the videos I made. Thanks for listening to the show. Next week is 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit.'