Fundamentally Drained

Today we are joined by Deacon Gary for a conversation about honesty within the church. Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Tolkien Article: https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/its-time-to-remember-tolkien-again?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&fbclid=IwAR1Ze7LdTH5F6pZULMWc4Is6E0uulVZSdZ-x9WJfoASyocedXcl-Besy3oU Reading While Black:  https://www.amazon.com/Reading-While-Black-American-Interpretation-ebook/dp/B086KQSS2X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=33AYQ1F09W0HE&keywords=reading+while+black&qid=1664979006&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjU5IiwicXNhIjoiMS4zMSIsInFzcCI6IjEuNDMifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=reading+while+blac%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-1 Adventures of Missing the Point: https://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Missing-Point-Controlled-Neutered/dp/0310253845 Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Article from Father Tom - https://kevinpendergrass.org/a-position-paper-what-happens-in-hell1/   Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Daily Office Links: https://www.venite.app/home  https://www.chpublishing.co.uk/apps/time-to-pray  https://prayerhaven.com/ https://prayer.forwardmovement.org/pray  Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-morning-at-the-office-an-episcopal-morning-prayer-podcast/id1488383775  https://www.churchofengland.org/prayer-and-worship/join-us-service-daily-prayer/daily-prayer-app-and-podcast  Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We'd like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Why did Jesus have to die Resources: The Cross and the Lynching Tree by James H. Cone - https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Lynching-Tree-James-Cone/dp/1626980055/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= The Crucifixion by Fleming Rutledge - https://www.amazon.com/Crucifixion-Understanding-Death-Jesus-Christ-ebook/dp/B01AJ5P014/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1617800829&sr=1-3 Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.htmlFind us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore.If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes.Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well.Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Things discussed in this episode: Creeds by Luke Timothy Johnson: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0385502486/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EuyQEbHMT1XND Walk in Love by by Scott Gunn and Melody Wilson Shobe: https://www.amazon.com/Walk-Love-Episcopal-Beliefs-Practices/dp/0880284552/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1588169550&sr=8-1-spons Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Well, I uploaded the episodes in the wrong order, oops! :)  It's hard to find good help. LOL  Hopefully you'll see this and still enjoy (they kind of stand alone anyway).  HAHA - Justin Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Follow along in an online version of the Book of Common Prayer's Outline of Faith section:  https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Article Tom Referenced: https://biologos.org/articles/n-t-wright-on-scripture-and-the-authority-of-god (Gabriel) N. Gordon’s Book on Amazon: https://smile.amazon.com/Late-Night-Meanderings-God-Collection-ebook/dp/B07WZGQFLC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=G.N.+GORDON&qid=1576682553&sr=8-1 The Misfits Theology Club Blog - http://misfitstheology.com/ http://misfitstheology.com/2019/08/08/an-old-commentary-of-hebrews-412-13/ Quotes provided by G.N. Gordon"And the things which are spoken through a prophet are not always to be taken as spoken by God. And even though through Moses God spoke many things, nevertheless Moses commanded other things by his own authority [the bill of divorce is given as an example]....And Paul also shows things in his letters, when he says concerning some things: 'The Lord says and not I,' and concerning others, 'These things moreover I say, not the Lord' (1 Cor. 7)" Quoted from "A High View of Scripture?" by Craig D. Allert Pg. 183 “Understanding the Word of God not as proclamation and Scripture alone but as God’s revelation in proclamation and Scripture, we must understand it in its identity with God Himself. God’s Revelation is Jesus Christ, the Son of God. The equation of God’s Word and God’s Son..." Church Dogmatics 1:1 By Karl Barth Pg. 137 "God's Word is God Himself in His revelation.." "Church Dogmatics 1:1" By Karl Barth Pg. 295 "The Bible itself is not the Word of God. Rather, it is supposed to be the witness to the living Word. For Christians, the living Word is Jesus, the Christ, and our knowledge of his love through the Holy Spirit...Please remember. The Bible is not the word. The Bible is a witness, an authoritative witness to the ways and works of the living God, who cannot be captured in propositions and arguments." "51% Christian" By Mark Stenberg. Pg. 113. "It is Christ Himself, not the Bible, who is the true word of God. The Bible, read in the right spirit and with the guidance of good teachers, will bring us to Him." "From a letter to Mrs. Johnson, November 8, 1952" By C.S. Lewis "by the way," the Word of God" is never used in the Bible to refer to the Bible. It couldn't since the Bible as a collection of 66 books hadn't been complied yet." "A Generous Orthodoxy" By Brian McLaren. Pg. 163 "In its primary sense, the Word of God is none other than God...The Bible itself declares that, strictly speaking, the Word of God is none other than God the Son, the Second Person of the Trinity, the Word who was made flesh and dwelt among us...Given this biblical understanding of the Word of God, what makes the Bible the word of God is not that it is infallible, nor that it can serve as a source of authority for theological and religious debate. The Bible is the Word of God because in it Jesus, the Word incarnate, comes to us. Any who read the Bible and somehow do not find Jesus in it, have not encountered the Word of God...Final authority rests neither in the church nor in the Bible, but in the gospel, in the message of Jesus Christ, who is the incarnate Word of God." "The Story of Christianity Volume Two" By Justo Gonzalez about Martin Luther's view of the Bible. 29-31 "So it is essentially wrong, in the final analysis, to ask if the Word of God is a book, or if it is found in a book or within the text of a book. The Bible itself and the Tradition of Faith in the Church respond to another question. That question is: "WHO is the Word of God?" The Word of God is a person: Jesus Christ! (John 1:1-5)." "Orthodox Christian Beliefs About the Bible" By Stanley Samuel Harakas. Pg. 3 Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace

Anglican article Tom referenced: https://www.patheos.com/library/anglican/beliefs/human-nature-and-the-purpose-of-existence Image of God Video by The Bible Project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbipxLDtY8c Story of the Bible Video by The Bible Project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_CGP-12AE0 Find us on Twitter and Facebook at @fundrainpod We’d like help in steering our topics so feel free to let us know what topics you would like us to explore. If you enjoy what we do, please go and give us a review on iTunes. Thank you for listening.  We enjoy these discussions and hope you do as well. Peace