I Guess We'll Do It That Way

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A weekly conversational comedy show where Isaiah and Jon talk about life, popular culture and Zay's progress as he directs his first feature film, ROLLERS, a dramatic comedy about a struggling concert venue.

Mama Bear Studios


    • Jun 25, 2021 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 50m AVG DURATION
    • 75 EPISODES

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    This Is The End: Rollers Premieres TODAY

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2021 7:54


    It's been a long and winding road. Thanks for walking it with us. We'll be back... maybe. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Twilight’s last gleaming (with Tommy and Bryce!)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2020 59:37


    Tommy Bertelsen and Bryce McGuire join us. Check out Tommy's incredible sonic memoir, How the fuck did I get here. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-the-f-k-did-i-get-here/id1522766655 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    What's up, doc?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2020 50:57


    While the world goes to pieces, we go to work. Buckle up. Or don't. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    We're Baaaaack

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2020 55:16


    After an unnecessarily long hiatus the boys are back. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    69. Feel Like I'm Taking Crazy Pills

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2020 71:41


    Wildly divergent. Novel and exciting. Or just plain crazy. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    68. Ok, Boomer

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2020 61:27


    In Xanadu did Kubla KhanA stately pleasure-dome decree:Where Alph, the sacred river, ranThrough caverns measureless to manDown to a sunless sea. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    67. We Are Not Cattle

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2020 59:17


    You know what it is! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    66. Unshackled (Part 1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2019 33:12


    Two eps of That Way? Christmas miracle. This one's a doozie so we broke it in two! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    65. Riders on the Storm

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2019 28:39


    This episode got cut short, we'll have part two later in the week. In the mean time we discuss not getting into Sundance, festivals in general, and the unfairness of numbers. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    64. We Return!

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2019 52:44


    Back from a long sabbatical and ready to rock. Zay and Jon talk Rollers, life, and the future of the podcast. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    63. Massively Huge Extra Special Update Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2019 16:09


    It's just Uncle Zay in the studio today because Uncle Jonny Bear is welcoming a new person into the world. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    62. Let's Talk about GHOSTS w/ Johnny Ray Gill (Star of Rollers)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2019 49:08


    Floating Islands on Lake Tidicaca / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9D16YY-TM See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    61. No Changes // Interview with Johnny Ray Gill AKA Rufus

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2019 46:27


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    Episode 60: Zedward Scissorhands

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2019 42:37


    Zay breaks out a new summer cut! You can't see it, but you can hear us talk about it and some other stuff! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Episode 59: Dark Days, Bright Future

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2019 45:29


    Zay and Jon go deep on current events; mass shootings, unrest, and upheaval. But there is light at the end of the tunnel and art to make. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Episode 58: Once Upon A Time In Palm Springs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2019 43:09


    Zay's on sabbatical but we still get a Rollers update, discuss Tarantino's new movie, and much much more. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Episode 57: Bertelsen Bonanza Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2019 37:20


    The great and wonderful Tommy Bertelsen is back for part 2. We cover his life, career, and phenomenal upcoming narrative podcast: How Did I Get Here.Check out Tommy and show him some love: tommybertelsen.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Episode 56: Bertelsen Bonanza Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2019 46:29


    Sometimes you sit down with a real one. Tommy B tees it up and whacks-a-mole on this episode. He's a director. He was a child actor. He's making a podcast. He's a great guy. Find and support Tommy here: http://www.tommybertelsen.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Episode 55: Fault Lines and Fresh Starts

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2019 42:45


    A visit from Capn' Dingus to beautiful Los Angeles prompts a new season and some earth shaking. Jon and Zay recount their time together and hopes for the future. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Episode 54: Progress Not Perfection

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2019 76:03


    We begin with ancient structures and finish with Rollers and self-help. ` See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Episode 53: Pitchers and Pork Rinds (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 42)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2019 43:06


    The boys are back at it. Barely any Rollers talk, but plenty o' banter. We talk baseball, cooking, movies, and more! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Episode 52: We Are The Illusion

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2019 52:58


    The boys take a break from Rollers to talk Network, conspiracies, corporate greed, societal ills, and much much more. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    51: Foray into Feedback (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 41)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2019 54:08


    Zay and Jon discuss the latest screening of Rollers (Zay's first feature film). We discuss handling criticism, the current state of the film, and how to finish with gold. The race is not won by the swift but to the one who endures till the end.Follow @RollersMovie on Instagram or go to mamabearstudios.com for a look at the poster! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    50! Not Getting Any Junger (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 40!)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2019 57:23


    The boys hit a milestone and celebrate with some wild offers, (review the podcast and win a trip to LA for the premier of Rollers), some self-reflection, and some future plans. Wouldn't be an anniversary episode sans cooking with Jon and Zay and some other shenanigans to boot. "Never thought we'd make it past 4". See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    49: Got No Juice (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 39)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2019 21:41


    Sick and worn out, Zay and Jon recap the past week in Rollers' post production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    48: Revelation Brings Rebirth (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 38)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2019 46:54


    A message to Zay. A revelation. A new cut. Jon is exposed as a Doubting Thomas. Is Rollers saved? Maybe; but apotheosis is weeks if not months away. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    47: The Zay Archer/Revenge of The Draft (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 37)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2019 59:47


    Zay and Jon discuss Rollers screening 3. Strength through adversity, ying and yang, chaos and order. Zay closes his eyes and looses his arrows. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    46. Return of the Draft (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 36)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2019 51:52


    Zay completes and screens a second cut of Rollers, his first feature film. We discuss the results of said screening and much more.info@mamabearstudios.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    45. Get Off Your Ass Smallman (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 35)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2019 65:54


    Zay gives us the low down on the podcast history and our numbers; we attempt to reduce those numbers by discussing them. Later we dive into film festivals, Dunbar's Number, Tristan da Cunha, depression, and much much more. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    44. Good Scenes, a Good Movie Do Not Make (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 34)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2019 65:20


    Zay showed a rough cut of Rollers, his first feature film, and revelations abound! And of course we discuss Easter, controversial authors, Moloch, Segway conspiracies and so much more. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    43. Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 33)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2019 46:07


    Back in the saddle. We return from a hiatus to yak and talk Rollers. Updates and poems abound! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    42. Let The Post Begin (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 32)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2019 53:09


    The boys review the project thus far, the state of the world, and things to come! Rollers persists. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    41. Sacred and Profane

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2019 47:35


    We return for part two with Henry to discuss the Nephilim, the Garden of Eden, Marilyn Robinson, the pyramids and the widely discredited Serpent Seed Theory--but not Rollers. Also, Jon discovers vaporwave and crams his Billy Graham collage down our throats. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    40. Quarks in Quarks in Quarks (THIS IS 40!)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2019 51:54


    The boys hit a milestone and celebrate by discussing many topics out of their depth. Physics, Nephilim, Pyramids, Pi, the secret of life... mercifully a guest arrives at the end to bring us back to reality... or hurtle us deeper into space. Part 1/2. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    39.5 The Fat Lady Hath Sungeth: Part Deux (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 31)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2019 43:49


    Zay regales us with tales of Rollers' final production day with--of course--several tangents and many teases. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    39. The Fat Lady Hath Sungeth (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 30)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2019 43:19


    ALT EPISODE DESCRIPTIONS:Rollers is in the can and the boys rehash the creation of Zay's first feature flim. Zay gets a software upgrade and some (one) sound effect(s).Rollers is wrapped up like a little burrito. But will the first bite be a perfect blend of ingredients or a giant blob of lukewarm sour cream? See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    38. The Final Meltdown (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 29)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2019 29:18


    Rollers enters the final week of shooting and Zay dishes the goods through a tin can. Tensions run high but lessons are learned as movie magic is made. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    37. Catharsis Is Coming (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 28)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2019 62:47


    Rollers is being put to (digital) film and the boys yak about Uncle Zay's successes and setbacks on set thus far. Turns out: making your first Indie is challenging and cathartic; plus some tangents. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    36. The Moon is a Giant Rock in the Sky (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 27)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2019 35:42


    We're one week out from production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    35. All Hands on Deck // Feat. Grant Withington (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 26)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2019 31:36


    Go follow @RollersMovie on Instagram!! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    34. Garbage on the Garbage Heap (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 25)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2019 43:25


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku42Iszh9KM See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    33. Strap On Your Fanny Packs (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 24)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2019 65:33


    Rollers is rolling into high gear, but Zay is feeling at least reasonably peaceful about the whole thing. Jon's been binging "The Haunting of Hill House" and he's scared shitless. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    32. A Much Needed Christmas Escape (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 23)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 25, 2018 30:36


    We hope you're having fun with your families these holidays. But if you need to get away from the politics and presents, throw this episode on the old turntable and escape into the wild and meandering minds of Uncle Zay and Jonny Bear. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    31. Old Hags, Exploding Heads & David Ferino (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 22)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2018 53:48


    We've got legendary writer/director David Ferino in the bear den this week to recap Jon's LA trip among other things. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    30. “You Lookin’ At Me?” Live from ROLLERS! (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 21)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2018 64:08


    YOU LOOKIN’ AT ME? // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOOrJSJp4-IVideo of drive through the hills // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f4kDXrmuF0Video of san marino drive // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOSKDNx88T4Ebell club --Dave Ferino Shorts --Trailer for EMPTIED // https://vimeo.com/221644704Nocturnally yours // https://vimeo.com/214304153 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    29. Rollers Music Fest & Jon Read Rollers 3 Times (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 20)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2018 56:39


    Coming soon. SORRY!!! We're crazy busy and we know you don't really read them anyway. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    28. Are We All Just Waiting For Guffman? (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 19)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2018 52:37


    Jon forces Zay to answer the all-important question... Is he a good director? Well, at the end of the day it doesn't matter because eventually we'll all be under a glacier. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    27. Merrily We Roll Along (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 18)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2018 56:34


    Corn Pone // https://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/corn-pone-225175Imposter Syndrome // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhUHyVpAwEDr. Quinn Medicine Woman // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPoponO4dh4 (hahaha)Cusco Walls // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66x9VLwZaDQFurniture Making // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZd24mcO5lQLebron Gets Paid to Win // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTeCc8jy7FILADY GAGA // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRxsX_30tjsCredits and Personal Links:A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ WebsiteProduced and edited by: Isaiah SmallmanExecutive Producer: Jon SchimpfOpening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer DregsCover Art by: Nate GiordanoShow Website | ThatWay.fmShow Twitter | @ThatWayPodJon TwitterIsaiah InstagramIsaiah IMDBIsaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses) See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    26. Is Anyone Having Any Fun?! (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 17)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2018 61:24


    Google it :) See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    25. No One Gives a Crap About Hollywood. Also Jon Sings Weezer. Feat. Bryce McGuire

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2018 45:18


    Sermon Series on the book of Ecclesiastes by Rankin Wilbourne (Pacific Crossroads Church)Momentum Mori- Prince of Orange Pyramids in Mexico/ Zay’s tattooNight Swim comes to lifeJames Wan backs Night SwimAnother short accepted by Amblin Entertainment- Bryce is writing for StevieBryce's Script “The White Room”- The Blood list “Florida Man”Mark Johnson Milton Berle pranks ZayCredits and Personal Links:A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ WebsiteProduced and edited by: Isaiah SmallmanExecutive Producer: Jon SchimpfOpening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer DregsOutro music: My Way By Frank SinatraCover Art by: Nate GiordanoShow Website | ThatWay.fmShow Twitter | @ThatWayPodJon TwitterIsaiah InstagramIsaiah IMDBIsaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses) See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    24. Bryce McGuire is a Successful Writer/Director… And he’s Broke

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2018 48:09


    Breaking Bad // Mark Johnson (Producer)Wise Blood (By Flannery O’Connor)Do you have to live in LA to make it in Hollywood?Do drug dealers use gold? // Apparently “Gold is the new Cocaine for money launderers”Tommy BertelsenTommy is a Badass director and we’re producing a new podcast about his experience directing a new movie called “Welcome to Mercy.”Here’s his IMDBBryce McGuire Short Films!The Whistler // on VimeoJesus Fish // on VimeoNight Swim // on VimeoGersh AgencyHarlan Coben // His websiteFace Off (on the SyFy Channel)Credits and Personal Links:A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ WebsiteProduced and edited by: Isaiah SmallmanExecutive Producer: Jon SchimpfOpening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer DregsOutro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max BelzCover Art by: Nate GiordanoShow Website | ThatWay.fmShow Twitter | @ThatWayPodJon TwitterIsaiah InstagramIsaiah IMDBIsaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses)Isaiah LinkedIn See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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