Soul + Practice: Raw Conversations & Real Practices with Kathy Escobar & Phyllis Mathis

Episode 30: Season Two WrapWow, we covered a lot of ground since January and in this episode we look back at some of the conversations we've had together, promise to fix the sound, and reflect on what we keep learning and practicing as best we can. We'll be back in September 2022 with Season 3! Thanks for listening! Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com 

 Episode 29: Soul Healing with Angie Fadel Embodied practices are everything, and Angie Fadel, our kindred and spiritual director and meditative archer, shares more about the hard, beautiful, and life-time work of soul healing. More on Angie's work at angiefadel.com. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 28: Recovering Racists with Idelette McVickerIdelette McVicker joins us for a soulful conversation about her new book, Recovering Racists: Dismantling White Supremacy and Reclaiming our Humanity. So much goodness and challenge and hope! More on Idelette's work at  Idelette.com.Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

 Episode 27: Dreaming of a Better WayHealthy systems are possible! Simple and small matters. Living systems are against the grain but are built on healing ourselves to help heal the world. Our dreams of a better way can come true. We refer to some of Dr. Shawn Ginwright's work and interview on Brene Brown's podcast.  More at shawnginwright.comGet to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

 Episode 26: “How Will I Be Today?” - A Conversation with Aram Haroutunian We have the best friends! Aram Haroutunian is a chaplain, pastor, and person of presence who has decades of experience in end of life realities and what “presence is everything” means. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 25: Long Haul Love and Learning…A Conversation with Suzann MollnerSuzann Mollner has worked alongside Palestian Refugees for many years, and there's so much we can learn from her about relationship, relief, and long haul love in the hardest places. More on her work at beirutandbeyond.org. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com    

Episode 24: Self CareSelf Care is a word and practice that has gained a lot of much-needed traction over the past few years but what if we are approaching self-care in the same way the world works and it's defeating some of the purpose. What if there's a small, simpler, soulful way to take good care of ourselves? Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com 

Episode 23: Freedom To…A Conversation with David Hayward (Naked Pastor)David Hayward, also known as Naked Pastor, is one of our kindred spirits and dear friend from afar for many years. In this episode we talk about all things freedom and could have talked for hours!  More on David's work at nakedpastor.com. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com 

Episode 22: Our First Guest! A Conversation With Jamison Escobar We had such a fun conversation with our first guest, Jamison Escobar, Kathy's son and catalyzer of goodness related to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion work. He definitely gives us hope for a better future, and we need as much of that as we can find. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

 Episode 21: Paradoxing We bring it up all the time but in this episode we focus in on the practice of paradox-ing, holding *all the things* despite their contradictions. It's definitely an art, not a science. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 20: All the Supremacies The lies of white supremacy, male supremacy, straight supremacy, Christian supremacy, thin supremacy, and all kinds of other supremacies are embedded into our culture, our DNA. Untangling from it is no easy task but recognizing it is a good first step.Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 19: Spiritual BypassingIn our desire to “be okay” in the world, we often do all kinds of things to skip over pain, find an easier solution, and bypass some of the deeper work. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 18: Our Hope is in the UndergroundThe realities of war in Ukraine stir up a lot of feelings of powerlessness, fear, and hopelessness for the state of our world. What is our part to play in change? Our hope is in the underground. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 17: ElderingDon't worry, we're not talking about church elders, we're talking about the wisdom that comes with aging, how we need each other–young and old mixed up together–and how crucial it is for aging people to not dismiss our contributions but step into what we have to bring to others, the world.Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 16: Presence is Everything Living in the here and now instead of in the future of the past is no small task. In a fragile and fractured world, being present is our best shot at surviving it. But learning how to be present isn't something that we can learn with our heads; it comes with practice.Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 15: Death  Talking about death, preparing for death, honoring death, respecting our mortality and other people's mortality as well is something that a lot of us aren't that great at naturally. In this episode, we dive into an honest conversation about death and dying, just another light topic on Soul + Practice. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 14:  All Roads Lead to ISuckVille and WhatIfTownIn this foundational episode for all things Soul+Practice, we look at the two places that all roads seem to lead for most of us humans–ISuckville (Shame) and WhatIfTown (Fear). Our brains get so used to going there that they're on autopilot. The way out to new patterns requires changing the channel and over time learning to build new roads.Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com 

Episode 13: Season 2 and We Don't Know Sh*tWe're back with Season 2 and the start of a new year in 2022 that is off to a tricky start. We think it would help us all if we could “break up with knowing.” In a world that makes no promises, this entitled feeling can lead us to all kinds of trouble. In this episode, we focus on the healing that can happen when we embrace “I don't know.” Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 12 - Season One WrapSoul + Practice has been a gift to us! This space to talk about hard things, to consider ways to move differently in the world, to connect with our souls and catalyze change within ourselves and the circles we move in has been healing for both of us. This episode is a look back at where we've been this season as we pause and get ready for season 2! Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 11 - AbortionTrigger Warning: Abortion can be a traumatic topic. Whoa, we keep diving into the deep end and with abortion rights now up for grabs in a new way before the Supreme Court we decided to spend a little time talking about it together.Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com 

Episode 10 - Men! The patriarchy isn't just bad for women; it's bad for men, too. While we obviously can't speak for men, we wanted to process some of what we hope for change, healing, and healthier human-ing together.Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 9 - Womxn!Womxn rock! The world needs the force of females to forge a better future. There are a lot of obstacles to freedom for women, but we'll do all we can do to keep strengthening, encouraging, fanning freedom into flame.Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com

Episode 8 - White Girl Anti-Racism WorkAs two middle-aged white women, we are wrestling with what it means to play our part in anti-racism work. We stumble and bumble, feel shame and confusion, but won't give up practicing, trying, learning how much we have to learn. Get to know the hosts at KathyEscobar.com and PhyllisMathis.com 

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Here we go! We're not sure the world needs another podcast, but we know we love to dive into the deep end and talk about life, faith, culture, and how to be healthier human beings in this crazy world. This first episode gives a little taste of who we are and where we'll be going this season.