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This week, Jen and Pete noodle on the negative aspects of being collegial, and how they might favor challenge instead.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might teams align on their why and their goals?What tools might we utilize to introduce more coaching into our work environments?How might feedback be utilized as a way to challenge and brainstorm and fight against FOPO?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O' Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
In the first episode of a new three-part mini-series on peak performance, Stacey takes us straight to the source of it all: your mind. Because if your head isn’t in the game, your business, your team, and your life will feel it. This is more than mindset fluff—it’s a call to take radical responsibility for your own mental wellbeing and leadership capacity. You’ll learn: ✨ Why emotional fitness is just as critical as strategy for business growth✨ The power of pre-built systems for wellbeing (especially in stormy seasons)✨ What Stacey’s learned from therapy, leadership coaching, and the “itty bitty shitty committee” in her head✨ Why professional development directly correlates with business revenue (and how to spot the gaps)✨ Practical ideas for tuning out the noise and tuning in to your true potential Whether you're on the floor with Lego thinking about client emails, or navigating brain fog while leading a team, this episode reminds you: your mind is your most powerful business tool.
This book was foundational to my personal development, and I hope you'll find it equally as useful. A researcher, storyteller from the University of Houston in Texas, Brené Brown helped me to see how shame and vulnerability have run rampant through my life and upended my sense of belonging. She also helped me to accept this very human part of myself, and work with it in a healthy way. Today, we set the table for the ten guideposts she outlines in the chapters to come. The ten guideposts support what she calls “wholehearted living.” I hope you'll read along with it all as we go. This is tender work folks. Brené's got a lovely mantra that can help: “Stay awkward, brave, and kind.” I hope you'll keep that in mind as we dig in.I hope you enjoy this episode. Please subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts, and share this episode widely. If you have questions or comments, please send them to me at meanderingswithtrudy@gmail.com. I will address them in the next episode.Episode links:The 2010 TedTalk that started Brené's rise to international helperBiographyBrené Brown podcast “Dare To Lead” with Adam Grant on her new leadership book, "Strong Ground" As always, this podcast is sponsored by the guests who give of their time, and by my company, Chapman Coaching Inc.Royalty free music is gratefully received and is called Sunday Stroll – by Huma-HumaLive life joyfully, and always let kindness guide you.
When it comes to our past, all roads lead to avoidance or acceptance — and we need to accept. Brene Brown says, ‘Owning our story can be hard, but not nearly as difficult as spending our lives running from it. That's a race you can't win.' Don't put your energy into your history; put your energy into your destiny.You Got This, Ryan
Let's get real about boredom, especially when you're taking a break from alcohol.In this week's episode, I'm unpacking why “I'm bored” can feel shamey, why stillness can spike dread for trauma survivors and neurodivergent brains, and how comparison pours petrol on the fire. We talk Peter Levine, Internal Family Systems, Kristin Neff, Tara Brach, and Brene Brown, but keep it super practical for real life. If “busy” has been your personality, this one's a deep exhale and a warm reminder that you're not broken; you're human. What we cover: The sneaky origins of boredom shame from childhood and why it sticks. Boredom ≠ lack of stimulation for trauma survivors and ND folks, it's the threat of being with ourselves. The “second arrow” of self-judgment and how it multiplies pain. Why our nervous system sometimes tries to discharge stored stress in the quiet. How neurodivergent masking leads to crash cycles, comparison, and coping. Practical reframes: becoming the observer, stopping the second arrow, and meeting real needs. Radical acceptance and the beauty of a “nice little life.” Small, doable ways to build capacity for stillness without reaching for a drink. Listen if: You're alcohol-free or AF-curious, you identify as “always busy,” or you're tired of comparing your Tuesday to someone else's highlight reel. Episode links & Resources Click here to book an initial consult with me https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=20808150&appointmentType=43677625 Click here for a 15 minute Free inquiry call to for my Be The Lighthouse Membership https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=20808150&appointmentType=22037671 Ready to transform your relationship with food before Christmas? My 6 Weeks To Christmas Intuitive Eating Program starts November 10th and runs through December 20th—giving you the tools to navigate the holiday season with confidence, peace, and food freedom. For just $497, you'll get 6 private 1-hour coaching sessions with personalized notes and resources to help you break free from diet culture for good. I'm only offering this program to 4 people as I complete the final element of my qualifications under the supervision of Intuitive Eating founder Evelyn Tribole—which means you'll benefit from her expertise guiding my work with you. This is your chance to experience Christmas without the anxiety, guilt, or food rules. Learn more and secure your spot at https://www.hoperisingcoaching.com/offers/uUeTzEjv
There's a kind of faith that performs instead of worships, and eventually, that kind of faith breaks down. This week on Win Today, Paul and Hannah McClure from Bethel Music join me to talk about the slow drift from softness to cynicism in the life of a believer. We talk about the orphan spirit, fake faith that looks right but can't hold weight, and how disappointment left untreated eventually hardens into disconnection. We also confront the myth that faith equals certainty, and why true worship isn't just a song; it's surrender in the absence of clarity. For anyone who's battled disillusionment in church, questioned the language of worship, or wondered whether they're singing words they don't believe anymore, this conversation offers both confrontation and comfort. Paul and Hannah don't sugarcoat the road. But they do point to healing. This isn't about emotional hype. It's about reclaiming your heart before it turns cold. You'll learn: Why disappointment often precedes cynicism What the orphan spirit really is—and how it forms How fake faith is often learned, not chosen Why worship without surrender is just noise How to walk with God when certainty disappears Guest Bio Paul and Hannah McClure are worship leaders, songwriters, and pastors with Bethel Music. Known for their vulnerability, depth, and refusal to perform, their ministry helps people reconnect with a God who isn't afraid of pain. They've led a generation to encounter God through honesty, not hype. Their story is one of surrender, resilience, and the long journey back from burnout, cynicism, and emotional numbness. Episode Links Show Notes Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here! Invite me to speak at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
This week, Jen and Pete noodle on the plateaus we might reach within certain skill sets, and how we might nudge ourselves forward.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:What is the OK Plateau?How might we push ourselves into situations that might make us afraid or uncomfortable, in order to build skill?What are some tools or tactics that might provide incremental increases of improvement?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O' Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Sarah and William dive deep into the world of personal development, tackling everything from "What would you do if you could go back and visit a younger version of yourself for 24 hours?" to the many different tools they've used through the years, to a list of some of their favorite books.Some of the tools mentioned include Strengthsfinder, the Enneagram, the DISC profile, and the Kolbe-A assessment.People mentioned include Brene Brown (brenebrown.com), Jeff Glover (gloveru.com), Keith Roy (keithroy.com), and Guy Raz (guyraz.com).Book titles mentioned include:The Go-Giver (Bob Burg & John David Mann)21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership (John Maxwell)Leadershift (John Maxwell)Start With Why (Simon Sinek)Leaders Eat Last (Simon Sinek)Everything is Figureoutable (Marie Forleo)#AskGaryVee (Gary Vaynerchuk)7L: The Seven Levels of Communication (Michael Maher)The Four Tendencies (Gretchen Rubin)You Are a Badass at Making Money (Jen Sincero)Traction (Geno Wickman)Girl, Wash Your Face (Rachel Hollis)Girl, Stop Apologizing (Rachel Hollis)Worthy (Jamie Kern Lima)Let Them (Mel Robbins)The Power of One More (Ed Mylett)The Big Leap (Gay Hendricks)The Four Agreements (Don Miguel Ruiz & Janet Mills)Living with a SEAL (Jesse Itzler)Broken Horses (Brandi Carlile)Who Moved My Cheese? (Spencer Johnson & Kenneth Blanchard)The Greatest Salesman in the World (Og Mandino)
It’s one thing to lead when business is booming. But what about when life gets messy, your team’s melting down, or the wheels fall off… again? In this episode, Stacey dives into the invisible but essential work of building strength behind the scenes—the emotional, physical, and mental stamina required to lead a thriving business without burning out. You’ll hear: ✨ Why regulating your emotions is one of the most overlooked leadership skills✨ What Stacey learned from a moody boss—and how not to lead a team✨ The link between perfectionism, imposter syndrome, and early business burnout✨ How your wellbeing rituals (yes, even Tai Chi in your front yard!) set the tone for your whole business✨ And what happened when Stacey thought she was going to miss Hugh Jackman on Broadway (spoiler: it’s a metaphor, and a good one) Whether you’re running solo or leading a team, this episode will help you check in with your own habits, energy, and self-care practices—so when the next storm hits, you’re steady, strong, and ready.
Join us as we explore the journey of Connie Warden, a local author and acupuncturist from Littleton, Colorado, who has recently published a book that bridges her personal experiences with her professional wisdom. In our conversation, Connie shares her path from discovering yoga at a young age to mastering oriental medicine and embracing indigenous cultures. She reveals a pivotal moment on the road that highlighted a gap between her personal values and actions, leading her to emphasize the importance of self-awareness in everyday situations. Listen in as Connie discusses how aligning actions with beliefs can turn mundane experiences into opportunities for personal growth. We also touch on the power of choosing courage over negativity by sharing personal anecdotes and insights from thought leaders like Brene Brown. Through stories from her time at OsteoStrong, we explore how adopting a compassionate perspective can enhance personal peace and interactions with others. The episode concludes with practical ways to connect with Connie, including her social media presence and special offers for listeners. We celebrate her journey in publishing and the impact her work has on readers' lives, all while highlighting the broader theme of learning through activities and sports that challenge our internal narratives. Connect with Connie:Website: www.conniewarden.com LinkedIn: Connie Warden Instagram: @conniewarden Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/099632030X Let's keep the conversation going!Website: www.martaspirk.com Instagram: @martaspirk Facebook: Marta Spirk Want to be my next guest on The Empowered Woman Podcast? Apply here: www.martaspirk.com/podcastguest Watch my TEDx talk: http://bit.ly/martatedx Discover and unlock your potential in Suzanne Roberts' book and documentary, It's Deeper Than That: Pathway to a Vibrant, Purposeful, and Liberated Life. You are guided to reconnect with the self-renewing energy at your core, where clarity returns, purpose ignites, and your life expands beyond what you thought was possible. Learn more at UnifyingSolutions.com
There's a way to sound spiritually mature while staying completely unformed, and therapy culture is helping people do just that. This week on Win Today, Matt Chandler joins us to confront the drift we're experiencing: where therapy culture replaces repentance, where identity confusion isn't grieved, and where safe Christian jargon sounds right but does nothing to transform the soul. We talk about why discipleship doesn't always feel safe. Why comfort doesn't heal—it sedates. And how complaining isn't just venting; it's forming your view of God. Matt names the thin theology that's left people chasing emotional relief instead of spiritual formation. This conversation doesn't throw stones at therapy. But it does confront what happens when comfort becomes your gospel and language becomes your liturgy. If you've traded formation for slogans, been discipled more by feelings than by truth, or confused Christian language with actual obedience, this conversation isn't just timely—it's necessary. Episode Links Show Notes Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here! Invite me to speak at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
In this week's episode, we discuss values in the context of leadership to celebrate global ethics day, 2025. We are joined by Associate Professor Belinda Kenny, Chair Ethics Board, as well as Kelly and Trish from SPA's National Office who regularly engage with members about ethical conduct and practice. Belinda, Kelly and Trish discuss reflective practice and the benefits to your work that come from authentically understanding yourself. We also speak about leadership skills, the targeted review of the Code of Ethics, and announce the student ethics essay competition winner for 2025. Resources: Global Ethics Day Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/initiatives-issues/global-ethics-day Brene Brown list of values https://brenebrown.com/resources/dare-to-lead-list-of-values/ Brene Brown living into our values https://brenebrown.com/resources/living-into-our-values/ The power of personal values in leadership (Forbes) https://www.forbes.com/sites/liesbethvanderlinden/2023/09/14/the-power-of-personal-values-in-leadership/ SPA resources: Ladder of inference https://speechpathologyaustralia.cld.bz/Speak-Out-April-2023/28/ Ethical reasoning https://speechpathologyaustralia.org.au/Members/Members/Professional-practice/Ethical-practice/Ethical-Education/Ethics-resources.aspx?hkey=455b4832-2ba7-4d42-9a0d-221a6a3bf9b1 Challenging conversations FAQ https://speechpathologyaustralia.org.au/resource?resource=540 Ceasing Services FAQ https://speechpathologyaustralia.org.au/resource?resource=872 Social Media Guide https://www.speechpathologyaustralia.org.au/resource?resource=882 Ethics education https://www.speechpathologyaustralia.org.au/Members/Members/Professional-practice/Ethical-practice/Ethical-Education/Ethics-education.aspx?hkey=eaf8f012-9eee-42f0-8cba-31d0575e94a6 Values based decision making case studies https://speechpathologyaustralia.cld.bz/Speak-Out-August-2023-pages/14/ Speech Pathology Australia acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of lands, seas and waters throughout Australia, and pay respect to Elders past and present. We recognise that the health and social and emotional wellbeing of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are grounded in continued connection to culture, country, language and community and acknowledge that sovereignty was never ceded. Free access to transcripts for podcast episodes are available via the SPA Learning Hub (https://learninghub.speechpathologyaustralia.org.au/), you will need to sign in or create an account. For more information, please see our Bio or for further enquiries, email speakuppodcast@speechpathologyaustralia.org.au Disclaimer: © (2025) The Speech Pathology Association of Australia Limited. All rights reserved. Important Notice, Please read: The views expressed in this presentation and reproduced in these materials are not necessarily the views of, or endorsed by, The Speech Pathology Association of Australia Limited (“the Association”). The Association makes no warranty or representation in relation to the content, currency or accuracy of any of the materials comprised in this recording. The Association expressly disclaims any and all liability (including liability for negligence) in respect of use of these materials and the information contained within them. The Association recommends you seek independent professional advice prior to making any decision involving matters outlined in this recording including in any of the materials referred to or otherwise incorporated into this recording. Except as otherwise stated, copyright and all other intellectual property rights comprised in the presentation and these materials, remain the exclusive property of the Association. Except with the Association's prior written approval you must not, in whole or part, reproduce, modify, adapt, distribute, publish or electronically communicate (including by online means) this recording or any of these materials.
This week, Jen confronts a metaphorical can that she's been kicking down the road for several months, and she and Pete noodle on where else these cans might show up in our lives.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might we name and tackle certain decisions or projects that we've been delaying?What effect does fear of other people's opinions have on our actions?Why might lessening the amount of cans you're kicking actually lead to more success?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O' Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.
Today I'm opening up about the struggles I've faced recently and how they've forced me to pause and take much needed time for myself. I've been very quiet about it until now, and if I'm honest, rather hollow feeling, trying to find my footing. Sometimes we have so much noise in our own heads that we can't make sense of the day to day, until something breaks and we are forced to slow down. I share my own thoughts about this journey in the hopes that others will realize they are not alone, and that taking time off to heal is not a sign of weakness, but of strength. Show links: Brene Brown's "The Midlife Unraveling" My Weary to Revived Course As always, I'd love to hear from you! Subscribe, leave a review, or follow PG-ish on IG @pgishparenting, or you can always find me at www.pgishparenting.com.
Think fitness has to be all-or-nothing? That the only way to see results is to grind harder, sweat more, and push through pain? If you've ever felt stuck in the shame cycle of workouts that feel like punishment, this episode is going to flip the script.In this episode, I'm joined by Sadie Lincoln, co-founder and CEO of Barre3, to talk about why the fitness industry has sold women on shame and “no pain, no gain,” and how to replace it with a smarter, more sustainable model.We dive into Sadie's comfort → brave → fight framework, the truth about modifications as performance tools, and why short movement snacks throughout the day often beat one big sweat session. Sadie also shares how to tune into your body's sensations to quiet the inner critic, plus her honest take on wearables, recovery, and motivation that actually lasts.If you're ready to shift from grinding harder to working smarter, this episode will show you how to find strength, confidence, and longevity, in and out of the gym.Sadie Lincoln is the co-founder of Barre3, a global fitness company with over 200 studios and a thriving online platform. With more than 17 years of teaching experience, she's redefining what results look like for women by combining strength, cardio, and mindfulness into every class.We Also Discuss:(00:46) Why shame sells in fitness, yet never sticks(11:05) The mindset shift that makes workouts feel empowering, not punishing(20:46) How growth really happens, and why community matters more than willpower(25:33) The industry myth women should finally start questioning(38:22) One simple movement practice that can change your entire day(42:20) Why modifications aren't “less than”, they're the smarter way to train(46:31) Progression vs. perfection: redefining what success actually looks likeThank You to Our Sponsors:Timeline: 20% off of Mitopure Gummies. Just go to timeline.com/TARA, and see what it feels like when your recovery and strength finally click. Check out more from Broads:Website: https://www.broads.app/Instagram: @broads.podcast @broads.appFind more from Sadie Lincoln:Website: https://barre3.comInstagram: @barre3Instagram: @sadielincoln
As we roll into the final quarter of the year, Stacey brings a grounding reminder: it’s not about chasing perfection—it’s about finishing with purpose. In this episode, she invites you to pause, reflect, and ask: What’s working? What’s not? And what are you absolutely not carrying into next year? You’ll learn: ✨ How to review your 2025 priorities with clarity and honesty✨ What to discard so you don’t end the year like a “dirty, wrung-out dishrag” (yes, that phrase is back—and it hits hard)✨ Stacey’s real-life boundary battles (and what she’s doing differently this time)✨ Simple ways to recalibrate your time, money, and energy before the year wraps up Whether it’s overcommitted calendars, out-of-control subscriptions, or sneaky habits that keep your laptop open at 10pm—this is your permission slip to hit reset before the year ends.
In this candid and sticky episode, award-winning Australian entrepreneur Leonie Dawson and her longtime friend and co-worker Tamara Protassow dive into the messy, magical, and sometimes disastrous topic of hiring friends or family in your business.With warmth, wit, and brutal honesty, they unpack personal stories, hard-earned lessons, and emotional truths about power dynamics, communication breakdowns, and the rare circumstances where it can actually work.Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction: Leonie sets the scene and introduces the question that divides entrepreneurs: should you ever hire your friends or family?01:00 – Meet Tam: Tam shares her journey as a creativity coach and long-time collaborator in Leonie's world.03:00 – How Leonie & Tam met: The fateful tea meetup that led to years of collaboration (and some chaotic planner adventures).07:00 – The Big Question: “Should you hire friends or family?” Leonie's immediate and emphatic answer: “Absolutely not.”09:00 – When it all goes wrong: Leonie shares stories of heartbreak, lost friendships, and the painful lessons that followed.10:30 – Why it fails: The duo explores misaligned expectations, power dynamics, blurred boundaries, and emotional baggage.17:00 – Tam's insider view: How Tam separates roles, keeps boundaries clean, and treats employment as a privilege rather than a power play.22:00 – How Leonie makes it work now: Clear communication, explicit agreements, and exit plans keep friendships intact.26:00 – The emotional cost: Why mixing love, money, and work can trigger every wound you've ever had.30:00 – The rare exceptions: Brene Brown and Denise Duffield-Thomas—proof it can work, but only with deep self-awareness and constant effort.34:00 – Closing reflections: Leonie's gratitude for the lessons learned and the friendships that survived the fire.Loved this episode?If you're a creative woman building a business that feels good — and want more real, no-BS conversations about boundaries, leadership, and soulful success — make sure you hit follow/subscribe wherever you listen.Share this episode with a biz friend who's considering hiring her bestie (save her the heartbreak!), and leave us a 5-star review — it helps us reach more wild-hearted entrepreneurs just like you.For more behind-the-scenes and business wisdom, visit www.leoniedawson.com
We want God to come through, but on our terms. We demand ease, favor, instant breakthrough, and validation, and when those expectations aren't met, we call it a trial. But what if the real trial is our refusal to lay down our entitlement? This week on Win Today, bestselling author Gary Thomas pulls no punches. He exposes the modern lie that faith means personal fulfillment, that comfort means favor, and that hardship means failure. And he shows how distraction is more than a bad habit—it's a spiritual breakdown. Because when the soul loses its focus, bitterness, offense, and relational dysfunction are not far behind. If you've ever felt spiritually entitled, subtly bitter, or confused about why you're still offended by things you “moved past,” this conversation is for you. Episode Links Show Notes Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here! Invite me to speak at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
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This week, Pete and Jen dive in to the idea of auditing your leadership tool kit, to help you solve problems and become more efficient.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:What are some tactics you might use to evaluate and assess your various skill sets?Why is it important to borrow ideas, questions, and tools from other leaders?How might we become more aware of our tool kits, so that we can reuse the tools we have in difficult conversations?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O' Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Alicia Jones who studied exercise physiology, nutrition, biomechanics, and more uses her research and client data to maximize her results in helping women in their middle age and beyond reclaim and maintain optimal fitness.RESOURCES:Visit This Episode's Blog Page:https://drhaley.com/fitness-after-50/Get the FREE Masterclass "3 phase food and fitness formula"https://masterclass.aliciajoneshealthyliving.com/masterclassVisit Alicia's Website:https://aliciajoneshealthyliving.com/Get the Books that shaped Alicia's Understanding "Daring Greatly" and "Dare To Lead" by Brene Brown on Amazon:https://amzn.to/4gTLWEpVisit Alicia Jones on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@AliciaJonesHealthyLivingWatch This Episode on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MZMHgqHvJwTIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro Snip03:25 Why are so many women seeking the GLP-1 inhibitors 04:20 What is an exercise non-responder?08:05 What is the #1 reason people get off the GLP-1 inhibitors?09:58 When you lose weight quickly, what is really happening?15:06 Why do you need a lot of protein when taking GLP-1 inhibitors or losing weight quickly?16:36 Why is there such a fascination lately with counting protein grams?19:15 How do we calculate how much protein someone should consume in a day?23:52 What is the soy controversy?26:00 What kind of exercise is most important as we are aging?27:27 What is the importance of impact during exercise?33:40 What power words were spoken into your life? "If She's 72, so can you"35:00 What is the CN Tower Climb?38:08 What favorite books shaped your understanding?39:03 Creatine, yes or no?40:10 Do you recommend hormone optimization?
This week, we're hitting pause on our usual business chat to dive into something just as important—and something that’s been coming up in nearly every coaching session lately: menopause and perimenopause. If you’ve been feeling hot, bothered, foggy, emotional, or just not like yourself lately, this one’s for you. Stacey is joined by two phenomenal women—Susan Judd from HR Culture and Alli Garison from Embodied Freedom—for a raw, empowering, and often hilarious chat about what it’s really like to lead, work, and live through this transition. In this deeply relatable episode, you’ll hear: ✨ The emotional impact of menopause in leadership and the workplace✨ Why so many women are stepping back—or out—of opportunities at the height of their careers✨ What the “hot, foggy and fabulous” research reveals about how women are really feeling✨ Practical tools to support your team, your clients, and yourself through this phase✨ And why we’re taking the doors off the hinges when it comes to talking about it Plus, we’ll give you the scoop on our upcoming Hot & Bothered live event—because if you’re going through it, you don’t have to go through it alone.
If you’re not navigating your life through your values, what are you using?
You think you're burned out, but what if you're actually just emotionally disconnected? What if your body is paying the price for unprocessed emotions you never gave yourself permission to feel? In today's episode of Win Today, married theologians and counselors Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw debunk the myths surrounding burnout, spiritual bypassing, and superficial healing. We're talking about what's really going on beneath the surface of emotional shutdown, how insecure attachment shows up in adult faith, and why your “soul senses” need to be reawakened if you want to actually experience wholeness. This isn't about self-help. This is about becoming whole—from the inside out. If you've ever been told to “just push through” or have spiritualized your pain away, this conversation is going to hit you like a defibrillator. Episode Links Show Notes Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here! Invite me to speak at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
This week, Jen and Pete noodle on a topic that they were both surprised to have never recorded an episode on: momentum.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:What is momentum mindset?How might we turn an ending into a beginning?Why is it important to not sit around and wait for motivation or inspiration?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O' Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
We talk a lot about strategy in business, but what about the resources that shape how you actually live and lead? In this episode, Stacey breaks down the three big levers that drive everything in your business (and your life): your time, your money, and your energy. Following last week’s chat about letting go of perfection, Stacey goes practical—sharing the mindset shifts and real-world tips that will help you lead with clarity and intention, no matter what season of business you're in. You’ll learn: ✨ Why your ideal week shouldn’t be a badge of honour—it should be a blueprint for sustainability✨ How to budget not just for profit, but for peace of mind (and avoid those 4am P&L panics)✨ The secret to knowing your “energy windows” and working with your natural rhythm, not against it✨ How to build a lifestyle that supports your business goals—without burning out in the process This episode is your permission slip to stop waiting for the “perfect” setup and start designing your business around what matters most right now.
Send us a textSteph is back for another solo episode, drawing from The Graduate Mentor's Trail Map. This time focusing on helping grad students believe they can get better—and making sure they know what "better" even looks like.We talk growth mindset, how to normalize mistakes as part of the process, and why “kind is clear” isn't just a Brene Brown soundbite—it's a foundational mentoring principle. If your students are floundering, unclear expectations might be the root. Let's fix that.Whether you're onboarding someone new or trying to re-align mid-program, this episode gives you practical language and mindset shifts you can use right away.For actionable tips and strategies for mentoring please check out The Graduate Mentor's Trail Map available in paperback and ebook now! If you are enjoying this podcast please leave a rating or review, and join us over on Twitter to let us know what topics you'd like to hear more about.
Renata Garcia é uma das vozes mais influentes da moda no Brasil. Jornalista que já passou pela Vogue e dirige a Glamour, ela traduziu tendências em cultura, desejo e impacto ao longo de 15 anos. Hoje, lidera uma das marcas mais desejadas do país e reflete sobre o futuro da comunicação — do impresso ao digital, da passarela à inteligência artificial. Um episódio para entender como a moda vai muito além do vestir: é estratégia, olhar e transformação.Vambora entender como esse sucesso aconteceu?Toda semana tem novo episódio no ar, pra não perder nenhum, siga: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thaisroque/Instagram Thais: https://www.instagram.com/thaisroque/ Instagram DCNC: https://www.instagram.com/decaronanacarreira/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@decaronanacarreiraYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Decaronanacarreira?sub_confirmation=1Thaís vesteBeleza – Cris DalleLink da Renata:Insta - https://www.instagram.com/renatagarciac/Mala de viagem:Brene Brown - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPY7uF5Yle8Tudo é rio - https://a.co/d/0FuU0iqEquipe que faz acontecer:Criação, roteiro e apresentação: Thais RoqueConsultoria de conteúdo: Beatriz FiorottoProdução: José Newton FonsecaSonorização e edição: Felipe DantasIdentidade Visual: João Magagnin
What if the deepest work God does in us happens when no one sees? When we feel forgotten, disillusioned, or unsure if our faith is still intact? Most of us would rather skip the wilderness. But what if the desert isn't punishment—it's preparation? This week on Win Today, international recording artist Evan Craft joins us for a raw and honest conversation about faith in the silence, finding God in the dark night of the soul, and what it means to serve when no one applauds. Together, we confront the cynicism that creeps in when life feels unfair, the pressure to perform for spiritual approval, and the questions we rarely admit we're asking, especially when God doesn't move how we expected. If you've ever felt forgotten by God or frustrated with the silence, this episode is for you. Episode Links Show Notes Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here! Invite me to speak at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
Send us a textWhat happens when the warning signals from our bodies become so normalized that we fail to recognize them as distress calls? After experiencing a sudden atrial fibrillation episode that landed me in the emergency room, doctors asked the question that haunted me: "Why did you wait so long to seek help?" The answer was both simple and profound – I had been ignoring my body's desperate attempts to complete stress cycles that had accumulated over the years.This deeply personal episode explores the science behind stress cycles and explains why completing them is essential for our overall well-being. Drawing on Emily and Amelia Nagoski's groundbreaking work, I explain that stress isn't just a feeling, but a physiological cycle with distinct phases that must reach a state of completion. When we continuously interrupt this natural process, moving from one stressor to the next without allowing our bodies to process and release, we remain in a state of hypervigilance that takes a devastating toll on our physical and mental health.Whether you're feeling the early warning signs of burnout or want to develop healthier rhythms, this episode offers seven practical strategies to complete stress cycles and return to a state of flourishing. Revisit these podcast episodes mentioned in today's episode:E337. The Art of Slowing Down with A.C. SeipleE314. Radical Relaxation with Tracie BraylockE272. Forest Bathing in the HallerbosE274. Everything is Reconciled in a GardenRead Dr. Brene Brown's interview with the Nagoski SistersRead the Stanford U article on "Cyclic Sighing"Support the showBegin Your Heartlifter's Journey: Visit and subscribe to Heartlift Central on Substack. This is our new online coaching center and meeting place for Heartlifters worldwide. Download the "Overcoming Hurtful Words" Study Guide PDF: BECOMING EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY Meet me on Instagram: @janellrardon Leave a review and rate the podcast: WRITE A REVIEW Learn more about my books and work: Janell Rardon Make a tax-deductible donation through Heartlift International
With AI being a pervasive topic in 2025, Jen and Pete discuss how they use the tool, and how they might utilize it to help their clients.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might we use AI to help other people, not just ourselves?Why is trust so important, in the building of skills and of organizations?What are several use cases for how Jen and Pete use AI?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O' Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Raise your hand if you’ve ever told yourself, “I’ll be happy when…”
On this episode of Currently Reading, Kaytee and Meredith are discussing: Bookish Moments: movie adaptations and wordy card games Current Reads: all the great, interesting, and/or terrible stuff we've been reading lately Deep Dive: answering a listener question about all things pre-orders The Fountain: we visit our perfect fountain to make wishes about our reading lives Show notes are time-stamped below for your convenience. Read the transcript of the episode (this link only works on the main site). . . . . 1:16 - Our Current Reads 1:35 - The Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman 6:43 - You Can't Say Umm card game 7:34 - Quiddler game 9:06 - Our Current Reads 9:24 - The Killer Question by Janice Hallett (Meredith) 10:37 - The Appeal by Janice Hallett 10:38 - The Mysterious Case of the Alperton Angels by Janice Hallett 10:42 - The Examiner by Janice Hallett 16:45 - The Crescent Monon Tea Room by Stacy Sivinski (Kaytee) 20:34 - The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz (Meredith) 22:23 - The Gifts of Imperfection by Brene Brown 26:00 - Between Two Kingdoms by Suleika Jaouad (Kaytee) 27:14 - When Breath Becomes Air by Paul Kalanithi 29:39 - Inheritance by Nora Roberts (Meredith) 33:52 - The Search by Nora Roberts 36:43 - Tilt by Emma Pattee (Kaytee) 40:58 - Deep Dive: All Things Pre-Orders 41:47 - @hollyslitmagic on Instagram 43:55 - Fabled Bookshop 47:07 - The Everlasting by Alix E. Harrow (pre-order, releases Oct 28, 2025) 47:12 - The Everlasting by Alix E. Harrow (UK edition, pre-order releases Oct 30, 2025) 48:32 - Bergman Brothers full box set is no longer available through Illumicrate 50:21 - Nevermoor by Jessica Townsend 51:22 - Meet Us At The Fountain 52:10 - Sorta Awesome 52:21 - @metaphysicalmeg on Instagram 52:26 - Meg's offerings for readings 53:59 - My wish is that you know yourself as a reader but also your whole self. (Meredith) 55:00 - I wish to encourage the nostalgia reading experience. (Kaytee) 55:09 - The Secret of Secrets by Dan Brown 55:59 - The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown 56:54 - Katabasis by R.F. Kuang 58:33 - Origin by Dan Brown 58:34 - The Lost Symbol by Dan Brown 58:36 - Angels and Demons by Dan Brown Support Us: Become a Bookish Friend | Grab Some Merch Shop Bookshop dot org | Shop Amazon Bookish Friends Receive: The Indie Press List with a curated list of five books hand sold by the indie of the month. September's IPL is brought to us from Words Matter in Pitman, NJ. Love and Chili Peppers with Kaytee and Rebekah - romance lovers get their due with this special episode focused entirely on the best selling genre fiction in the business. All Things Murderful with Meredith and Elizabeth - special content for the scary-lovers, brought to you with the behind-the-scenes insights of an independent bookseller From the Editor's Desk with Kaytee and Bunmi Ishola - a quarterly peek behind the curtain at the publishing industry The Bookish Friends Facebook Group - where you can build community with bookish friends from around the globe as well as our hosts Connect With Us: The Show: Instagram | Website | Email | Threads The Hosts and Regulars: Meredith | Kaytee | Mary | Roxanna Production and Editing: Megan Phouthavong Evans Affiliate Disclosure: All affiliate links go to Bookshop unless otherwise noted. Shopping here helps keep the lights on and benefits indie bookstores. Thanks for your support!
We say we want transformation, but often we create environments that protect people from pain instead of preparing them for growth. In the process, we enable spiritual stagnation, emotional fragility, and shallow discipleship. This week on Win Today, Katie Davis Majors exposes the hidden dangers of well-meaning empathy, the false security of “safe spaces,” and the clichés that erode authentic faith. In this conversation, we'll also tackle how to live faithfully in the tension between what God has promised and what we see right now. If you've ever found yourself numbing pain instead of processing it, or if you've settled for comfort instead of maturity, this conversation will challenge you to grow, even when it costs you. Episode Links Show Notes Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here! Invite me to speak at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
After a week in the woods working on a creative project, Jen brings Pete the lessons she brought back around building something new.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:Why is it important to have an agenda, and other constraints, when working on a project?What role do collaborators place in the creation of something new?What tactics might we utilize in sharing a work-in-progress with an audience?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O' Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
PLAN GOAL PLAN | Schedule, Mindful, Holistic Goal Setting, Focus, Working Moms
Have you ever stopped to think about the five core qualities that truly define you? In this episode, I'm taking you on a fun, reflective journey to discover the traits that make you, well… YOU! I'll walk you through an activity that changed the way I see myself and my goals. I'll share my own process and the results that surprised even me! We'll chat about the thought leaders who inspire me and how their unique qualities helped me shape my own “Defining Five.” Grab your favorite notebook and let's get introspective together. By the end of this episode, you'll have a fresh perspective on what makes you shine and a toolkit to help you live with more clarity, integrity, and joy. Book mentioned in this episode: I Thought It Was Just Me by Brene Brown: https://amzn.to/3JPOA1A Give and Take by Adam Grant: https://amzn.to/4m8ya1q Grit by Angela Duckworth: https://amzn.to/3VbsjO8 The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday: https://amzn.to/4mgcKQj Moral Ambition by Rutger Bregman: https://amzn.to/4goQIcU Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman: https://amzn.to/47EQkog Slow Productivity by Cal Newport https://amzn.to/41OzCiq Links & resources: Plan Goal Plan Planners! Join Here Website: PlanGoalPlan.com LinkedIn: (I post most here!) www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-mcgeough-phd-
In this episode of The Men's Collective Podcast, we unpack the difference between being vs. doing—and why most men are praised for achievement, performance, and success instead of who they truly are. Travis explores how this performance-based identity can lead to shame, loneliness, and disconnection, and shares research (including Brene Brown) plus real coaching insights to show why affirming character and core values builds stronger confidence and connection. What You'll Learn: - Being vs. Doing: Why most men are praised for achievements instead of character - Performance-Based Identity: How tying self-worth to success leads to shame, loneliness, and burnout - Masculinity & Mental Health: Research on traditional masculinity norms and their impact on connection - Affirmations That Matter: Why affirming compassion, resilience, and courage builds lasting confidence - Practical Challenge: Write & share three affirmations about who you are—and three for people you love - Real-Life Stories & Research: Insights from Brene Brown, Therese Norden, and coaching work with men Challenge for the Week: Write three affirmations you'd love someone to say about your character—and share three affirmations with people close to you. Notice how it shifts your connection.
In this episode, Stacey takes us behind the scenes—not of her business, but of herself. Continuing the visionary leadership series, this conversation dives deep into why your personal brand needs more than polish... it needs authenticity. You’ll learn: ✨ Why showing your real self (not just your CEO self) makes your brand magnetic✨ How years of performance shaped Stacey’s early business mindset—and what changed after 40✨ The difference between “Miss Stacey” and the Stacey behind the scenes✨ How being vulnerable and human creates stronger connections, loyalty, and community From breakfast radio to ballet to burnout, Stacey shares the journey of discovering who she really is behind the business—and how leaning into that truth has been transformational.
From a childhood fire that left him with burns over his entire body to becoming a bestselling author and global speaker, John O'Leary's story is one of resilience, faith, and the power of love in action. In this conversation, John reflects on the ordinary people who showed up during his darkest hours—family, teachers, and friends—whose courage and kindness helped him heal. His journey reminds us that we don't need a cape to be a hero; we simply need to choose love, offer kindness, and believe that even the smallest actions can change a life. With the upcoming release of his film Soul on Fire, John continues to inspire others to see their life as a gift and to live it with purpose. Key Takeaways: Love and kindness have the power to heal and inspire — even in life's most difficult moments. Small actions can create big ripple effects that impact generations. Courage often shows up in ordinary people who choose to step forward. Community support plays a key role in resilience, reminding us we don't heal alone. Each of us has a purpose to use our life for good and to lift others along the way. Join us for the Kindness Campaign and help create a ripple of compassion in your community! Sign up today at SmallChangesBigShifts.com/Kindness to receive daily acts of kindness and inspiration. We're also inviting sponsorship partners to help us expand this movement and touch even more lives. If your organization would like to be part of spreading kindness across communities, explore the opportunities here: https://smallchangesbigshifts.com/download/9926/?tmstv=1757105005 About John O'Leary: John O'Leary, #1 National Bestselling Author & Speaker Once expected to die, now teaching others how to Live Inspired. In 1987, John O'Leary was a curious nine-year-old boy. Playing with fire and gasoline, John created a massive explosion in his home and was burned on 100% of his body. He was given less than a 1% chance to live. This epic story of survival was first showcased in Overwhelming Odds, the book his parents wrote in 2006. It was this book that first invited John to embrace his miraculous recovery and share it with the world. Today, John inspires tens of thousands of people at more than 100 live and virtual events each year. He partners with companies and organizations across fields, such as: sales, healthcare, safety, marketing, finance, faith, education and insurance. Consistently described as “the best speaker we've ever had,” John's tireless schedule is a testament to the power of his message. His emotional storytelling, unexpected humor and authenticity make each presentation unforgettable. John is a two-time bestselling author of On Fire: The 7 Choices to Ignite a Radically Inspired Life and In Awe: Rediscover Your Childlike Wonder to Unleash Inspiration, Meaning and Joy. John's award-winning Live Inspired Podcast has more than seven million downloads and enjoys world-class guests such as Brené Brown, Mitch Albom, Jackie Joyner-Kersee and Bob Costas. Amazingly, John's story is taking on a new form: a full-length feature film starring Joel Courtney, John Corbett, and William H. Macy. SOUL ON FIRE will be release in theaters nationwide on October 10, 2025. Regardless of his professional accomplishments, John considers his greatest success to be his marriage to his wife Beth, their four children and his relationships with friends and family. Connect with John O'Leary at: https://johnolearyinspires.com/ https://soulonfiremovie.com/ https://www.facebook.com/JohnOLearyRisingAbove https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-o-leary-08b2805/ https://www.instagram.com/johnoleary.inspires/, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRXJIPZAni0_zakjCFh5VTQ Connect with Dr. Michelle and Bayleigh at: https://smallchangesbigshifts.com hello@smallchangesbigshifts.com https://www.linkedin.com/company/smallchangesbigshifts https://www.facebook.com/SmallChangesBigShifts https://www.instagram.com/smallchangesbigshiftsco Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.
We all want to overcome, but too often, we curate our pain out of view—tidy it up, slap a spiritual platitude on top, and hope time heals what we never confronted. This week on Win Today, ESPN's Lauren Sisler reveals what happened when her life fell apart at 18. She buried both of her parents just hours apart. And in the wake of that trauma, she didn't get a “hall pass” from grief. She didn't get a spiritual fast-forward button. She had to live every moment of it, raw and real. In this powerful conversation, we take on the lies of “rah-rah Christianity,” the armor of image management, and the emotional expense of avoidance. If you've ever wondered why God didn't spare you from the pain… or why it still lingers even though you “moved on,” this episode will meet you where you really live. Episode Links Show Notes Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here! Invite me to speak at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
After being taken by surprise by a question in a workshop, Pete noodles with Jen on what it looks like to show up as the opposite of a curious leader, and how we might return to a more curious state.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:What does it mean to be curious? What tactics might we utilize to spur curiosity?How might you rely on your team, to give you feedback about when you are at your best and worst?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O' Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
In this episode, Stacey continues the visionary leadership series with a heartfelt look at personal branding—not just for visibility or sales, but for impact. If you've ever wondered what your legacy could be or how to align your leadership with something meaningful beyond your day-to-day business, this one’s for you. You’ll learn: ✨ Why being known for something matters more than just being “seen”✨ How to align your personal brand with the causes and values you care most about✨ A behind-the-scenes story of Stacey’s World’s Greatest Shave journey—raising $25k with community, courage, and purpose✨ Practical ways to integrate purpose-led leadership into your brand without straying from your core business This episode will challenge you to think beyond your products and services and start asking: What kind of impact do I really want to have? And how can I bring my community along for the ride?
There's a kind of rest that is still ravenous, and comfort alone is costing your soul more than you think. This week on Win Today, Tim Timberlake joins me to name the central lie of our era: that convenience equals progress. God rarely fits into the narrative designed by self‑help culture, and grief is rarely the speed bump we're told. When breakthrough is packaged and delivered, it disconnects you from the transformative power of pain. Tim unpacks why immediate comfort doesn't heal—it anesthetizes. Why rushing through grief doesn't preserve strength—it fractures your future. And why so many believers craft manufactured breakthroughs that collapse when real life tests them. If your fast-track faith feels flat…if comfort makes you morally weaker…or if you've chased progress more than presence, this episode confronts the real cost, and invites deeper formation. Episode Links Show Notes Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here! Invite me to speak at your church or event. Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
In their annual tradition, Jen talks to Pete about ways in which running (or not running) has taught her about life.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might we decide whether or not to take action on something that is hard or painful?What opportunities might arise from saying no to something?Why is it important to revisit the reasons behind our practices and routines?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O' Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
From redefining “good” and “bad” habits to learning how empathy shapes teaching, Lesley and Brad recap their conversation with yoga teacher Anthony Benenati—founder of City Yoga, California's first Anusara studio, and now leads That's Not Yoga®. With over three decades of experience, Anthony has built a philosophy of meeting students where they are. Together they explore how ego, anger, and even curiosity can open the door to practice, and why the stories we carry and the language we use hold the power to shape growth. This episode invites you to pause, reflect, and ask: is this serving me?If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Anthony's teaching shaped his philosophy of fitting yoga to the students.Brad's early yoga mishaps and how they reframed his view of the practice.Feeling like an "outsider" in Pilates and how sharing built deeper connections.Why empathy is the real skill teachers need in guiding students.Why desire, knowledge, and action are the non-negotiables for growth.Episode References/Links:UK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukP.O.T. 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If the answer is yes, fuck what people think. If it's a yes, and tomorrow it's a yes, and then the next week it's a yes, and then next month it's a no, then you make a change. Lesley Logan 0:22 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:05 Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the authentic convo I had with Anthony Benenati in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you've missed out. Brad Crowell 1:16 You definitely missed out. Lesley Logan 1:18 I don't like to go around saying you made mistakes, but you did.Brad Crowell 1:20 You did. Lesley Logan 1:24 You don't suck or anything, but, all right, before I get into that, today is August 28th 2025 and it is National Rainbow Bridge Remembrance Day. And on this day, of course, it's gonna say Rainbow Bridge twice. So the death of a beloved pet, whether it's the family dog, a furry kitty, or something a little more obscure, is a sad occasion. Rainbow Bridge Remembrance Day on August 28th is the day that we remember the pets that are no longer with us. Whilst the pain of losing a pet, you can't laugh while we're talking about dead dogs, babe, but we are laughing because Rainbow Bridge Remembrance Day is a day we remember our pets. We got that from remembrance, you know, like we got it, okay, anyways. Whilst the pain of losing a pet somewhat heals over time, they're never forgotten, and today is their day. The day was founded by author Deborah Barnes as a way for people to share their memories of the pets that they have lost, whether it's a dog, a hamster or a snake, or, you know, anything in between. Oh, maybe this is the day that we maybe actually like say it. Brad Crowell 2:32 That's what I was thinking. Lesley Logan 2:34 Okay, well, do you want to say it?Brad Crowell 2:36 Yeah, I do. Also, I think it's great that it's in the month of August. Lesley Logan 2:40 I know it's like we knew. Brad Crowell 2:42 If you didn't know, Lesley and I have only one dog now, and it's been a couple of months that we lost August as well. And when I say as well, what I mean is last year, we lost Gaia towards the end of the year, and then about six months later, we also lost August, and that was really, really challenging, and not something that we talk about very often.Lesley Logan 3:08 I know well, because there's a difference, and I think that's what was important about this day. And like, if you needed this day, it's like, there's something it was something easier. I mean, it felt really hard at the time when we had to, like, make a day to say goodbye to Gaia, you know, like we, we knew for years the day was coming, and we could see it was time. And we had a different situation with August, where it was just like, oh. Brad Crowell 3:33 It was unexpected. It was sudden. Lesley Logan 3:35 This is happening to this is happening today, and that's, that, like, that's just not enough time for your brain to like, not that we miss him differently, but we, I do, like, it's just a different grief. It felt like a different grief. Brad Crowell 3:48 It felt like a different grief. I felt like with Gaia, I had a lot more opportunity to say goodbye ahead of time, you know. And then when when it was gone, it was fond memories. With August, it felt like shock and sadness.Lesley Logan 4:11 Yeah, yeah. I mean, with and with her, like, I felt like, okay, she's gonna be better. Because, like, she was just having a hard time being alive. And he was so young, so that just felt like it was it was hard, it was awful. We didn't talk about it, because there's when you when you share, that someone passes away, or a pet passes away, there's an outpouring of love because of this world we live in. Like, you can say what you want about the negative sides of social media. But the positive sides are like, insane. It's like, it's like the people from your life 10 years ago, and because people have had pets like, they feel it. When you lose a pet and you see someone like you feel that loss with them. Because you know what it feels like and like, in no way were we capable of handling any I'm sorry, like I couldn't and, like, even now we're getting teary eyed. So anyways, we have one amazing dog, and we, if you know this about OPC, well, all of our companies do a little donation to a charity. It's built into all of our products and our profit margins and OPC, this year, I chose a dog charity down because they get like, 500 animals, like, a week, and like, they're trying really hard to be a no kill shelter, and I, and we can't I, like, literally, look at dogs Brad, like, look at this one. Like, we're gonna, like, we're gonna take this on. And as much as, like, oh, that fills this hole. Then I'm, like, it doesn't fill the hole. So, like, anyways, National Rainbow Bridge Remembrance Day to for from our hearts to all of yours who've lost a pet, it's so hard. So anyways, okay, so in other news. Brad Crowell 5:51 In other news.Lesley Logan 5:52 We are back from our tour, as you heard last time, but we are literally leaving in like four days to go to the U.K., and we opened up ala carte workshops, which means that if you can't take a whole day off with us, it's quite possible there is a spot left in a workshop. So we just took the day passes and allowed people to buy a workshop. So there might be one or two workshops that you can snag your spot. And so go to opc.me/uk because we're going to be in Essex and Leeds, and I don't know when we'll be back teaching in the U.K., but I know we're gonna be there now, and it's gonna be so much fun. There's some great workshops. There's some business ones, there's some Pilates ones. They're for people who like us and love us and just wanna learn with us who are really, absolutely amazing. So thank you to our hosts from The Movement Base and Chapel Allerton Pilates. Then we come back and like, two weeks later, we leave for Chicagoland. We're going to be at a Balanced Body's POT and I'm teaching the Joe's gyms there. Brad is going to have, like, Brad just now was helping me with the booth, and that's it's in Burr Ridge, but they call it Chicagoland, and I like that. And from Chicagoland, we're going to go to Cambodia. And you know what? We've had people last minute join us, like we said, you could join like, two weeks before. So, crowsnestretreats.com, if you are feeling ambitious and wanting to get the heck out of town because there's a lot going on and maybe you just want to take a break. So, crowsnestretreats.com. And then what? Brad Crowell 7:16 Well, we're actually working on lighting up a workshop and some classes in Singapore right now. Lesley Logan 7:21 I know. Brad Crowell 7:22 Which would be awesome. We'll see. You know, I would say at this point, if it hasn't come together, then we have a problem. If you're listening to this now, but right now we're working on it when we're recording this. So we're gonna say, yeah, it happened. It definitely happened. We got a workshop coming in Singapore.Lesley Logan 7:39 It's going to happen because, hello. I mean, it's not very often Singapore that I have a layover during daylight hours. Brad Crowell 7:44 That's right. Lesley Logan 7:44 And so we're gonna make there's people who want it.Brad Crowell 7:46 It's gonna be awesome, yeah. But anyway, we've been looking at different venues right now, and we're lining it all up. So yeah. And then after we get back from Singapore, we actually are home for about a month, which is quite nice to to chill out. We some family coming into town, and then we go on our winter tour for OPC, where we're driving another 8000 miles this year. Last year, we did 8200 over the winter. This year is going to be less miles more stops. Oh, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:20 Okay. Brad Crowell 8:21 Less miles, more steps, but it's gonna be awesome. We are stoked. Lesley Logan 8:24 You know what's really funny, guys? Okay, so the team, like, I see the map, I see where we're going, I give some inputs on some places. I'm like, yeah, I'll do that, whatever. But then they don't actually always tell me, like, all the events we're doing. So like, this week, all the private events that, because, like, studios that host us can also, like, hire us for an event, just for their team, right? So there's a public class and a public workshop, and then sometimes there's a private workshop. And apparently there's a lot more than workshops that I thought on the summer tour. So I am interested to see this winter tour. I expect lots of gifts and lots of hugs, but we'll announce the winter tour in October. So if you are in Cambodia with us, you'll hear it all announced. Brad Crowell 9:03 Yes, you will. Lesley Logan 9:04 Okay before we get into Anthony's incredible episode. What is the question of the week?Brad Crowell 9:10 Yes, great. So I don't actually know how to say this, netamenashe, yeah, netamenashe. there you go, on Instagram, she asked, Hey Lesley, do you do any Zoom sessions sometimes? Lesley Logan 9:27 Sometimes I do. Brad Crowell 9:28 Sometimes.Lesley Logan 9:29 That's true. Yeah. Who gets them? It's gonna sound like I'm an asshole, but the people who get Zoom sessions with me are people who are in my mentorship program, to be completely honest. I don't have a lot of hours in a week that I can teach because of we run OPC, you run Profitable Pilates, you know, and we do have the mentorship program, so the limited times that I have are for those in that program. And then sometimes OPC members get access to that calendar. But basically, as you can hear, no one publicly gets access to those things. So as much as I love to teach the world on Zoom, that the way I can do that is through OPC actually, because we have a monthly live class, and I can look, we can hang out afterwards, and I can look at your form. I can answer your questions. You don't even have to come to the live class when I look at your form, you can submit videos, and I can give you feedback. So if you're wanting me to give you feedback on some exercises, be an OPC member. If you're a teacher, you can go through eLevate we only have a few spots there, where OPC, it's obviously as many people. Brad Crowell 10:28 Open to the world. Lesley Logan 10:28 Open to the world and. Lesley Logan 10:29 But yeah, I mean, with eLevate, if you, if you're actually looking for a specific feedback on your practice and you want to really grow, Neta, you should be considering eLevate. It's for teachers. It's a nine-month program. It's like, consider it like going and getting a master's degree somewhere. It's very in depth, in in in what it covers. It's going to run through everything that Lesley learned from Jay Grimes, who studied with Joe. So you're going to be covering 500 exercises. It's going to be amazing. During that time, your your personal practice will significantly grow, and you'll also have, Lesley will be, you know, watching your practice during those nine months, too. So that's like, the best way to make that happen. Just reach out, or go to lesleylogan.co/elevate and or you can book a call. I'm super happy to hop on a call and just say, what's up, you know.Lesley Logan 11:21 I mean, I it's like a it's a great problem to have. And I actually used to teach this long I've been teaching online. I used to teach on Skype, and I used to teach people all over on Skype. Brad Crowell 11:30 2015, '16, '17 Skype.Lesley Logan 11:33 Yeah, Skype, oh, my God. Or sometimes Facebook, sometimes Facebook Messenger, because Skype wasn't working, or whatever, like, it was so, but I was, like, anything that has a video I can teach on it. And, you know, but, yeah, I think, like, we do have some great opportunities to work together in person between the tours and Cambodia, and then the online stuff is, you know, you I all love. Brad Crowell 11:56 That's another great one. You could come with us to Cambodia, Neta, where you'll be doing five classes with Lesley during the retreat. And obviously, you know, it's, it's not a large group. So you can come there and be in person. Lesley Logan 12:10 Yeah. So you guys send in your questions. You can, like, you'll literally hear honest feedback and answers. And we love answering them. Like, I just, I want, I want, I want I want questions about your wedding, I don't know. Like, give me some good ones. Go to beitpod.com/questions to submit them, or text us at 310-905-5534, it doesn't yet mean Be It Pod, but we're getting to.Brad Crowell 12:34 No it's not gonna mean Be It Pod anytime soon. So I love that your wishful thinking here it's, you know, low on the list.Lesley Logan 12:41 Being it till I see it. Brad Crowell 12:43 Lower on the priority list. Lesley Logan 12:47 All right, all right. Brad Crowell 12:49 Love you. Lesley Logan 12:49 Love you too.Brad Crowell 12:51 Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into one of my really dear friends who I've now known for more than a decade, and he he's just inspirational in multiple ways, being a yogi, but also, you know, he's a philosopher too. So cannot wait to dig into this convbo that you have with Anthony Benenati. You're really going to enjoy. If you haven't already gone back and listened to that, you should, but yeah, looking forward to it. Stick around we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 13:19 Right. Let's talk about Mr. Anthony Benenati. A professional yoga teacher with over 32 years of experience. Before stepping into yoga, Anthony served in the Air Force and worked in a comp as a competitive power lifter. I don't know if he worked at it, but he was a competitive power lifter, which left him with shoulder and knee injuries. In fact, you know, he he told me when he was younger, he couldn't even touch his toes, you know, and today he's like, you know, obviously been doing yoga for three decades. He founded City Yoga, which was California's first on a Sora studio, and he now leads, That's Not Yoga. That's his website, thatsnotyoga.com. He he's actually also done a lot of business stuff, and like because he sold studios and then he taught for other people, and he's done workshops and holds retreats, all sorts of stuff. Anthony's philosophy is to fit yoga to the student, making sure the practice leads to transformation and healing, not to suffering. And he teaches students to listen to their bodies every day, meeting themselves where they're at, with their openness and compassion, and yeah I think that is a really great summary of, you know, who he is. But I would also say he rides a motorcycle, he drinks beer, he curses. He's fucking cool and hip, and that's one of the things that that I connected with him the most about is because I had this preconception of what's a yogi. Lesley Logan 14:45 I mean, your first class was, like a per tip, like a bit like, like the typical yoga instructor, like this little, soft spoken older lady.Brad Crowell 14:52 No, no, no, no, no. I had my well, so that, so that was the first teacher that I actually learned from, and she was super sweet and nice. But yes, the class was literally for, like, elderly people. And I was like, teach me the foundations. And I liked the class because she let her students ask questions during class. And I was like, I don't understand this pose. How does it work? And it effectively was like. Lesley Logan 15:14 In case you haven't noticed, Brad, you guys, Brad literally interrupts all classes to ask questions. Like, like, all classes, he has questions. He comes on the retreat, and he'll just pop into a class, and then he's got a question. It's like, we actually talked about that yesterday, and you missed class. But okay.Brad Crowell 15:29 So, but my very first class was hilarious, because I'm like, you know, my nickname in yoga class was shark boy, or Mr. Bendy, and I, I've just been I'm a hyper mobile body, so naturally flexible. And I get to my first yoga class ever was a Groupon that I bought, and I showed up for class, and I'm in the middle of, like, 30 or 40 people, and I don't have a clue what I'm doing. I'm watching this guy up in the front, you know, do all the things. And I was like, okay, we're sticking our arm over there. We're shooting, our leg over this way. We're twisting and blah, blah, blah. And at the end of the class, he came up to me, he's like, wow, man, you have a great practice. And I was like, this is my very first class. And it was like, what? And I was like, yeah. And then I left the studio, and I walked out to my motorcycle, and I could not get onto it. Lesley Logan 16:16 You did way too much. Brad Crowell 16:17 Because I hurt myself so bad that I literally had to sit there for like an hour just for my back to not be screaming at me. And I was like, well, yoga is not for me. And I just was like, I'm done. And then I never, you know, like, I never went back, and I, but I, but I had that Groupon right? And so anyway, somehow I ended up using it. And I bought another package somewhere with Anthony, because the studio was convenient and but I only want. Lesley Logan 16:46 Your first class wasn't with Anthony. Brad Crowell 16:47 No, no, my first class was not with Anthony. But like, a year or two later, I was like, I'm gonna give this another try. And I did buy, like, a 10 pack at Anthony's studio, and I use, like, and he didn't have an expiration on it, right? So, and I, but I only use, like, two classes. And then I didn't know yoga for like, years. And then there was a point where I was like, I need to go. I need to go back to class. And I, I called the studio. Had, he had sold it and, you know, so I, I went. I was like, hey, I had this package with the old studio, you know, you know. And I wasn't even taking with Anthony. I had been taking with that lady, that older lady, lady, but I still had packages. It just so happened to be Anthony's studio. I didn't know that, yeah. So when I went back, Anthony was the teacher, and that's how I first met him. And I was like, who the hell is this guy? He's awesome. This is rad and that and then I was like, hooked. I was in. This is probably like, 2014. So I've been dabbling in yoga for like, maybe three years, but not really.Lesley Logan 17:46 I love how two or three times in two years is dabbling.Brad Crowell 17:50 Yeah. Well, with the with the older with the with the older lady, whose name I don't remember, and I feel bad about that. I probably went, you know, I bought a few 10 packs, you know, I went a few times.Lesley Logan 18:00 Okay, it wasn't clear that there's a multiple 10 pack. Brad Crowell 18:02 Yeah. Sorry, sorry I went a few times, like, I had enough foundation (inaudible). Lesley Logan 18:05 Every time I've heard this story it has always had, like, one 10 pack, and it's like, you get a couple of times it's not dabbling.Brad Crowell 18:12 Oh, I went, I went, yeah, I went enough to, like, decide that yoga wasn't gonna hurt me if I knew what I was doing. But, you know, I didn't actually, like, it didn't turn it into a habit or a practice. I just went a few times, and then, you know, it wasn't until, you know, a year later that I went back to redeem the rest of my package that, studio had sold. I didn't even know it. And I was like, well, they're gonna honor it. I already have classes. I'll just go there. And then I happened to pop into a class that was Anthony's, but, wow, that was a long story that has nothing to do with anything. Lesley Logan 18:45 Speaking of Anthony. Brad Crowell 18:45 Yeah, let's shift on, like from your convo, which was deep. Lesley Logan 18:50 It was deep. I knew it would be, I know it'd be so good, but I think for all the teachers, no matter what you teach, this is a really great thing. Anthony says he believes that the most effective teacher is someone who understands how people get to the practice. Brad Crowell 19:03 Well, you just found out. Lesley Logan 19:05 Yeah, well, but like, right, right, but like, I think this goes to, you know, we coach a lot of Pilates instructors, and they're like, I want to work with an advanced person. All they want to do is lose weight, and it's like, right? And we don't want you to lie to people, but you have to understand what gets people to the practice, so that you can have empathy for them being a beginner, because they should be allowed to be a beginner, and we can't, we don't want them to feel shame for what they think they want in their life, because that's a compilation of years of stories and influence good or bad to, and in the conversation we talked about, there's no such thing as good or bad, but like to to someone. And so how can you really have a lived experience, so that you can in whatever it is you're teaching, so that you can come from a really great place, an honest place, and and be human, you know, like, I think a lot of instructors put themselves upon pedestals, cult leaders and and forget that like you are also in practice when you teach something, that's a practice, right? And so he also said empathy is such an important factor to be a great teacher, you have to put yourself in their shoes. And this is something like, look, of course, I have days where I get tired and I'm like, why don't they just fucking relax and stop trying to be perfect, like I don't understand, like, I'm fucking just, just relax, just be in practice. But also, I know what that is like. I know why they can't do it. I know that they have years of like, being for whatever, like somebody told them that it had maybe the perfection is because it kept the house safe. You know, there's so many different reasons why people seek perfection. They want certainty. They want control, you know.Brad Crowell 20:47 Yeah, I mean, it could be a response from uncertainty in another area of their life, where they feel like this is where I can have certainty, because I know exactly how it's supposed to be, you know. And then, and then it becomes this thing. Lesley Logan 21:00 Yeah, but when I when I like, so when I catch myself, because sometimes, like, I'm like, and it's like, oh, wait, hold on a second. We've like, I've been here. So what, what was I going through? And what actually got me to, like, let go of that and get back in that empathy, because it actually is what helps guide people on the path to being more themselves, to connecting to themselves, to having a personal practice. So it was just like.Brad Crowell 21:25 Yeah. Anthony was talking about his ego was the thing that brought him to the practice. Because he was like. Lesley Logan 21:31 Which would just be the irony of yoga. Brad Crowell 21:33 Yeah. And I'll tell you, it was actually anger that brought me to the practice and. Lesley Logan 21:39 I do went to yoga with you because I thought you're cute. I mean I was going to yoga already, and I was like, Ookay, I'll go to that class with him, because he's cute.Brad Crowell 21:48 bBut, but I was angry that I couldn't do it, and that was also ego. But like, I was angry. I was angry outside. I was angry at my ex, right? And I was angry that I couldn't figure it out. And I was angry that my I was just angry. And then when I when I knew was that, after I had beat the shit out of myself in a yoga class, I felt better. Like, ironically, you know, and like, if you know, talk about controlling, like I wanted every single answer to every every possible understanding of the movement, you know, and then, and then there was stuff that I was like, couldn't do. And it generally like, ironically, I was flexible, but I wasn't flexible enough in my own mind. And I definitely wasn't strong. And, you know, I think that anger, like, pushed me through the strength training barriers of where I was, like, I need to be able to hold this pose for whatever, 10 seconds, I don't know, like, whatever it was like. And it was like, I mean, I'm glad I didn't hurt myself, to be honest, you know, during it. But it was, you know, it took me a solid six months to enjoy the practice, you know, because I was just frustrated at everything.Lesley Logan 23:04 Yeah, I think, like, had you come to it for a different way, you might, like, it would might have been a different thing, but maybe you didn't, wouldn't have practiced that hard. Like, I think, I think that's what the point is. Like, what if we allowed our journey to whatever it is just be that, I think a lot of people want to change the past. They want, they want it to be a different way that they got into something. I remember, like, how I got into Pilates. I thought it was BS, and I remember not telling anyone that story for years, like I was so embarrassed that I actually thought that that Pilates was a gimmick, you know, I really was. I was like, oh. And then also on top of that, because when I became a Pilates instructor, people, most of the teachers were dancers. So here I was one of the few in my world, not in the world, but in my world, L.A., that was a non-dancer, and I thought it was bullshit, you know, like I was just like, I'm just gonna just, I'm just gonna bend back, I'm in the back, and no one's gonna know. But then I realized, like, actually, like, how I got to Pilates is probably how a lot of people think about Pilates. And what if I actually just, like, lean into the empathy of that, and it might actually allow more people to come to the practice, because then they don't feel stupid or silly or weird for thinking it's, it's, you know, not gonna work, you know? And it found, the more I talked about how I wasn't a dancer, the more teachers were like, I'm not one either. And then made them feel good. And so, like, what if we all just own the story that we have? It might actually make us all have more community and connection to different people.Brad Crowell 24:33 Yeah. I mean, it makes you relatable, you know, makes makes as a teacher, it makes you relatable when you're willing to, you know, share the things that it's I think, you know, there's always over-sharing can be wrong. But like, I think it's hard to know what will be received well. And so I feel like that there's fear there, and that's why you know, you're like, man, I shouldn't share that. But then, like, when you know if and when you do, it's like, oh, you know, like, well, I'm not alone in this, and other people are probably also not sharing, and now they feel permission to, you know, commiserate or connect, or, you know, makes them feel better about themselves, too. So, yeah. Lesley Logan 25:12 Yeah. Love it. Okay, what did you love? Brad Crowell 25:13 Yeah, so I loved this idea of good and bad. You know, he said yoga doesn't actually see things as good and bad. It's not like you have a good practice or a bad practice, or you're a good yogi or a bad yogi, you know. He said that yoga kind of sees things more in the does it work, or is it not working? You know? And he was talking about the specifically, like, when, when we were talking about this, it was more talking about habits. You know, it's like, the habit is there, whether it's a quote, unquote, good habit or a bad habit. You know, we're taking that and setting that aside instead. It's a, you know, how is this habit serving me? Is it, is it working for me, or is it not working for me, right? And specifically you were like, maybe you get frustrated that you sit there and scroll on Instagram all day long, but maybe you can see that as a good thing, because you actually need a moment to to just like, not think, right?Lesley Logan 26:12 Yeah, yeah. We also mean, we talked about, like, some people would say it's bad to drink, but like, if it if, if that drink made you that drink made you relax and connect with your family. Like, is it bad and and I think, like, is it wrong? So I've heard that this before, and a couple different things, obviously, like, there are things that cannot be great for you, but you, the difference is, like, is it serving you? Is it serving you? And it's okay for something to serve you and not serve somebody else. Brad Crowell 26:43 Or what is coming from it that could be serving you, right? Like, it might not be the thing that is serving you like, like the alcohol itself might not be beneficial, but the quality time that you spent with family when consuming the alcohol that is worth doing, right, you know? So, there's, I still, I still love the idea that like everything in moderation, including moderation, you know.Lesley Logan 27:08 Well, I think the point is, because I think about Brene Brown, she's gone in my head a couple times in this conversation, guilt versus shame is her thing, right? Like, I think some people shame themselves. I had a drink last night, versus, like, I spent time with my family and I had a drink, and I love spending time with my family. I don't love I had the drink, but when I had the drink, it let me forget about the work that I had so I could spend time with my family. So I do need to figure out a way to get to forget about work so I can spend time my family. But we don't have to have shame around the drink, because, you know, and I think that's where it's like, we have to be kinder to ourselves. I think people just walk around. I mean, it's on the internet, right? People just shame people all the time. That's bad. That's wrong. You did that wrong. Like, no one is going way to go, like, you know, when's the last time you told a stranger (inaudible). Brad Crowell 28:00 We definitely celebrated with OPC. I was gonna, I was gonna circle this right back around to your Pilates practice or your yoga practice, because when I first got into yoga, that was how I treated myself. I'm not good enough. I'm doing it wrong. I'm not doing it well. It's, it's not good, like I'm not a good yogi. And I was judging myself, but I was angry. I was angry at myself. I was angry at the world, you know, and like, you know, but I knew that, like physically, my body, like you ever felt like, you ever felt like so frustrated you just have to go run? You ever felt like that, where like running is somehow going to like be the thing, I and, like, that was that was like, you know, because you get that endorphins release and all that stuff, and that was what I was looking for without really understanding it, I just knew that I felt better after class, you know, and because I was also more relaxed and, like, my mind wasn't like, freaking out all the time, you know, at that point. But it still took time for me to like, took years for me to stop judging my own practice and like the idea that.Lesley Logan 29:14 But I think going back to like, there's a difference between saying something is bad and to lead to I'm bad, and asking yourself, and if we could just catch ourselves now, because this is why I love this conversation. Is it serving me? If the answer is yes, fuck what people think. If it's a yes, and tomorrow it's a yes, and then the next week, it's a yes, and then next month, it's a no. Then you make a change, but. Brad Crowell 29:44 Sure, you can make a choice. Lesley Logan 29:45 But I think some people are using judgment on good or bad, on things that are serving them, and then they're fucking stuck, like if you had not gone to yoga because I'm bad. It makes me feel like, you know, so I'm not, like, yoga would become the thing that's wrong. And then, like, you know what I mean? So like, is it serving me? It's serving me to go because I'm angry, and I can be angry, and it's serving me, and then all of a sudden, the anger at yoga no longer served you, and you let it go. So I think, like, there's a couple different ways to see this. Brad Crowell 30:20 Or the anger at me is no longer serving me. Lesley Logan 30:22 Yeah, so you had to let it go. So I think, what if we could all stop? If you and this is something we can catch ourselves doing here at this household, you and me together, but also, like our coworkers, your friends, like, if you go, oh, I know it's bad that I do this, hit, pull, that rubber band. Is it serving me, that I do this, right? Is it serving me that I do this? And if you can honestly say yes, then let the fucking guilt go, because it's not helping you. Brad Crowell 30:48 You said pull that rubber band? Lesley Logan 30:50 You know, you have a rubber band on your wrist. Brad Crowell 30:52 Yeah, yeah. Snap it. Lesley Logan 30:53 Snap it. Brad Crowell 30:54 Like, hit the reset button. Yeah, you know. And, and it's, you know, that he took it a little bit differently in the conversation, because he's, you know, he was talking about all things serve a purpose, even if we look at it and say that's bad, you know? Because, you know, he said we wouldn't know love without hate, joy without pain. Lesley Logan 31:18 I can think of a few people that I could still think the world's a better place if they weren't in it. I'm just gonna say, we all know, but like, I get the point.Brad Crowell 31:27 Perspective, right? It allows us to actually understand what we have in our world that is amazing, you know, because we can also see, oh, damn, I definitely that is not amazing over there. You know? You know that that's not giving that's not that is not working. That would not work for me, right? I mean, yeah, that wouldn't work for me. So, you know, it's a, he said, it's a balance, you know, and it's and each scenario you find yourself in, you can find that balance between, you know, is it working for me or not working for me? Or is it the good and the bad? You know, how can it be working for you? Lesley Logan 32:04 I mean, you know, I love it because, like BJ Fogg always said, there's no such thing as bad habit. Every habit you have is serving some function. Now, there might be habits you don't like or are no longer serving you, but they're a habit. But there, you cannot say there's a bad habit, because it is providing something in your brain that's kicking off a dopamine otherwise your brain wouldn't seek doing it.Brad Crowell 32:24 Right. Yeah, yeah. I always thought about that too with, like, food, you know, there's something, even if it's like, quote, unquote, bad habit of, like, eating all the time, or, like, maybe you have, like, a consistent, like, I eat late, or whatever, and you know that it's like, not physically helping you. There's still something in your head that's like, I need that thing, whatever that thing is, you know, I need that glass of orange juice, you know, I need the sugar, you know. Lesley Logan 32:49 Well, because it could be, it brings re lief, right? It's distraction, it might calm you down. There's so many different things that our habits do. So if there's something that you feel no longer serves a purpose in your life, right, you have to explore that and not judge that. I'm going to do a whole series on habits, actually, so we can continue this conversation on this like it's now an eight episode series I'm going to do about habits. Brad Crowell 33:19 Really? Lesley Logan 33:19 Oh, Brad has no idea. Brad Crowell 33:20 What? Tell me more. Lesley Logan 33:22 Yeah, oh, my God, I'm doing a whole episode, a whole series on my. Brad Crowell 33:25 On where? Lesley Logan 33:26 On the pod. I'm just taking over and not interviewing people for a few weeks. And I'm gonna tell you how to fucking do a habit. And we're also talking about unraveling habits that no longer serve you. Brad Crowell 33:35 All right, you heard it here first, y'all, surprise. Lesley Logan 33:37 So the thing the homework from this episode is just start taking notice of things, you know, the habits you have, the routines you have that no longer serve you. And we can bring that to the series, which will come out, I think it's going to come out either in December or January, so.Brad Crowell 33:55 Cool. All right, that's really fun. We'll stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those Be It Action Items that you covered with Anthony, which were also fantastic. So yeah, stick around we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 34:07 Welcome back. Let's dig into those Be It Action Items that you had.Lesley Logan 34:13 You guys, I am notorious, like, I'm notorious, like, yeah, I'm ready. And then I just looked down, and he's like, just wants me to look at the camera when he says welcome back. So I'm sorry, everyone here we are. Welcome back. Brad Crowell 34:24 Welcome back. Lesley Logan 34:24 Say it with him. What bold, ex, you're not gonna say it with me? What bold, executable, intrinsic or targetedBrad Crowell 34:31 Action items can we take away from your convo with Anthony Benenati?Lesley Logan 34:35 Just so you know, I always fade out, even when you sing Happy Birthday, because I can't. I don't like how I sound. Okay. I'm going first, babe, here we go. I'm taking away because I there's just too many things I loved. So he said, he states that it's important that we actually we focus on three things when you want to do things that you want to do. So first of all, to do anything you want to do, you have to actually have the desire to do it. If you don't have the desire to do it, you won't put the effort forward. Has anyone ever said like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna learn Spanish, and then you don't learn Spanish. So you have to have the desire to do it. This is, we're gonna talk about this in the Habit Series. I love it. Knowledge. You have to learn to do it. He actually said just doing something without knowing how to do it can cause you harm. This is very true. You have to actually learn how to do it. I'm actually trying to learn how to do tarot, because I like want to, we have a Ttarot episode coming out, and I like, want to understand how to like, do it better. And I want a tarot is a personal relationship with yourself. It's asking yourself questions. And I want to have, I don't want to do it wrong. I want to have a really good understanding of it before I start journaling and pulling cards. And really like doing it for real. And then third is action. Then you simply have to do it. But beyond doing it just once, you must commit to doing over and over and over again to create meaningful change. And I love this so much. We have to be okay with being beginners, are we okay for having, like, being on a journey of learning, and then you just keep doing it. And it's really amazing how when you do that, it's like there's deeper levels of everything that we do, and it's just so good. I am loving, I love this, love, I love this triad. Okay, Brad.Brad Crowell 36:12 Yeah, I think that that idea of desire, knowledge and action is so obvious, but we often will skip one of the steps. Lesley Logan 36:24 Sometimes people skip desire. Brad Crowell 36:26 That's what I'm saying. Lesley Logan 36:27 It's terrible, like, that's a bad one. Brad Crowell 36:28 I'm doing it because I have to, or I'm doing it for somebody else, but really, you don't fucking want to, and so it actually sets you up to fail from the gate, right? Because what's gonna happen, you're gonna you're gonna do it, and it's gonna build frustration or resentment, you know, or like you mentioned with step two, if you skip knowledge, you could hurt yourself. And then, you know, there's step three, which is actually being consistent with it. You can have the desire to learn. You could even learn how to do it. But then if you don't do it.Lesley Logan 37:03 Right, right, because you, because some people won't do things because they're they're too new at it, you know. Okay, your Be It Action Items, your takeaways.Brad Crowell 37:11 Okay, so he was talking about being careful with language, and you mentioned this too, right? How your body actually learns, your body responds to the way that you think and the things that you say impact, you know, like, what you think is what you're going to say, and what you think your body is also going to do. Lesley Logan 37:32 Your body's not going to go rogue on you.Brad Crowell 37:34 Right. So, for example, you were talking about, you know, oh, I'm never, I never lose weight, or I'm never gonna get stronger or, you know, or I was thinking about just this, just the other day, I had somebody come, you know, we had somebody come to our place, and we were just taking photos, and the person said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, that's my bad side. And then shifted to the other side of the photo so they could get it. And I was like, that's like, I mean, of course, we've all heard that and like, it sounds like so Hollywood, but it's also, you know, like, that's a shame.Lesley Logan 38:13 Well, also, because you it just you have confirmation bias. You actually always see the thing that you're saying is bad, but your body listens. If you say you have a weak arm, your body's not gonna go let me show you how strong I am. No, it's just not gonna happen, and you'll treat it that way. So I really, I really think language, being careful with it, is something we could all pay attention to.Brad Crowell 38:34 Yeah and then the other side of it, too is let's say you have the desire and the action, the knowledge, I mean, and you're putting it into action, the way that you put it into action today might be different than the way you put it into action yesterday, right? And I think I had, especially with my yoga practice, never fully embraced this idea, ever. So for 10 years, I was like, I can always go further than I did the day before. That's just the way I always looked at it. It wasn't until I started lifting weights that I truly looked at it like, I just can't today, whatever, whatever, like, like, if last week I did 150 pounds, I just feel like, wimpy today, I'm not going to be able to do it and I and I could actually hurt myself.Lesley Logan 39:28 Yeah, that's why my trainer has me on a deload week because it's important for your central nervous system to, like, think things are a little easier. Can't always be building, building, building. You have to calm it down, yeah, so it's, it's so true, like our the way we approach things has to be different if we're listening to our body. Brad Crowell 39:47 Yeah and, you know, so yeah, listening to your body, being careful with your language, being willing to, being willing to, not, you know, whatever, reach the goal or hit the to be the epitome of the pose or, you know, in our in my case, it was often handstand, you know, when it was yoga, or for lifters, it's like, I gotta hit my max. Last max was, you know, this, so I gotta hit, I gotta at least hit that and then more, right, like, being willing to be like, okay, maybe right now it's okay if it's different, you know.Lesley Logan 40:24 Yeah, it's interesting how, like, some of those things, just you'd learn with age, but also.Brad Crowell 40:27 I think with age and also, like death. I never felt like I was gonna hurt myself in yoga. I never felt like I could crush my skull. Like, if you're benching and you have too much weight, your body could slip and fail, and you could have 150 pounds crashing on your body like, that was, that was the moment where I was like, oh, okay. Lesley Logan 40:47 So there it is, Anthony. We should have just probably go how to teach Brad he could have died, get a fucking broken his neck. Oh, my God. Okay, now we know. Well, I.Brad Crowell 40:59 But also that's translated, you know, like, I it took me an opportunity to learn, and then, you know, now, when I'm going back into my yoga practice, it's, doesn't have to be like, to the nth degree every single time.Lesley Logan 41:12 Yeah, I just show up. Like, that's where I'm at. I'm like, I'm really enjoying just showing up. So glad I get to do that. I'm like, I'm here today.Brad Crowell 41:20 I also feel a lot stronger, too, and less flexible. And I acknowledge that. Lesley Logan 41:25 You're no longer a shark boy. Brad Crowell 41:26 No. I mean, I don't think so. I'm still flexible, but I'm not like I was like before. Lesley Logan 41:31 You have mobility. Brad Crowell 41:32 Yeah, but I could put my foot behind my neck not in front of my head.Lesley Logan 41:35 I know, but you have but we need strength as we get older, it's really fucking hard to put it on. Anyways, I just this whole episode has so many gems I really enjoyed, like, reliving it. I think it's one that's worth going back to. And I think it's got, it's got a takeaway you might listen to differently each time you hear it. So, listen to it again. And I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 41:57 And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 41:58 Thanks for listening. I want to hear reviews. I want to hear takeaways. I want your fucking questions. Send it in to beitpod.com/questions, also your wins. I want your wins. I want a lot. Okay, I want a lot. Brad Crowell 42:09 Yeah. We want it all. Lesley Logan 42:10 Yes, I can't I'm not gonna sing a song for you. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 42:14 Bye for now. Lesley Logan 42:16 That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. 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