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The People in Tax Podcast is a production of the American Bar Association’s Section of Taxation. For more news, read ABA Tax Times at ambar.org/abataxtimes.

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    • May 1, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • every other week NEW EPISODES
    • 25m AVG DURATION
    • 86 EPISODES


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    S06E013: Scott Levine - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2025 23:59


    In S06E13, Bela Unell and Scott Levine continue their discussion of his time at the IRS, the relationship between the government and the Tax Section, and the role of diversity in tax practice. (Part 2 of 2).

    S06E012: Scott Levine - Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2025 20:41


    In S06E12, Bela Unell and Scott Levine discuss his varied career, including his teaching career and work at the Treasury Department. (Part 1 of 2).

    S06E011: Devon Bodoh

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2025 29:37


    In S06E11, Bela Unell and Devon Bodoh discuss his road to tax, and his experience in the occasionally chaotic world of international tax practice.

    S06E010: Roberta Mann - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2025 26:20


    In S06E10, Bela Unell and Professor Roberta Mann discuss getting jobs in tax, her work with the ABA Tax Section Publications, and how she got started with the Tax Section.

    S06E09: Roberta Mann - Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2025 26:03


    In S06E09, Bela Unell and Professor Roberta Mann discuss her early career at IRS Chief Counsel, how her experience on Capitol Hill shaped how she views law today, and her approach to teaching tax.

    S06E08: Mohit Mookim

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2025 26:37


    In S06E08, Bela Unell and Christine A. Brunswick Public Service Fellow Mohit Mookim discuss working with non-traditional organizations, the origin and work of the Sustainable Economies Law Center (SELC), and changing what movement organizations look like.

    S06E07: Fatima Garcia - Part 3

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2025 16:25


    In S06E07, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Fatima Garcia discuss constructive criticism, advocating for each other at the office, and making tax less scary for the average person. (Part 3 of 3).

    S06E06: Fatima Garcia - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2025 20:54


    In S06E06, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Fatima Garcia discuss the role mentorship has played in her career, finding her voice as a practicing attorney, and the responsibility she feels as a Latina in the legal field. (Part 2 of 3).

    S06E05: Fatima Garcia - Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 26, 2024 20:01


    In S06E05, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Fatima Garcia discuss her unexpected road to tax practice, the importance of representation in the legal field, and the scholarship she founded for her alma mater. (Part 1 of 2).

    S06E04: Hannah Stephan

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2024 23:19


    In S06E04, Bela Unell and Christine A. Brunswick Public Service Fellow Hannah Stephan discuss her background in Finance, her work with Minnesota Legal Aid, and her close ties to her home state.

    S06E03: Jorge Oben - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2024 21:44


    In S06E03, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Jorge Oben discuss his work on the Ways and Means Committee, how his background influences his work experiences, and how he keeps himself moving forward in a challenging world.

    S06E02: Jorge Obén

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2024 21:17


    In S06E02, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Jorge Obén discuss the uniqueness of tax practice in the US, the pitfalls of international tax, and his experience working with the Ways and Means Committee.

    S06E01: Jessica Harris

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2024 14:30


    In S06E01, Bela Unell and Professor and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Jessica Harris discuss her road to tax practice, working in Low-Income Tax Clinics, and improving inclusivity in the tax sphere.

    S05E15: Shailana Dunn-Wall Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2023 18:42


    In S05E15, William Schmidt and Christine Brunswick Fellow Shailana Dunn-Wall discuss community education regarding tax, the specifics of LITC works, and the benefits of Tax Section meetings.

    S05E14: Shailana Dunn-Wall

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2023 9:13


    In S05E14, William Schmidt and Christine Brunswick Fellow Shailana Dunn-Wall discuss non-profit tax practice, the challenges facing low-income taxpayers, and the benefits of the Christine Brunswick Fellowship. Part 1 of 2.

    S05E13: Chardea Murray - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2023 22:30


    In S05E13, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Chardea Murray discuss her mentors, her goals for the Fellowship, and the importance of DEI and outreach. Part 2 of 2.

    S05E12: Chardea Murray

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2023 26:05


    In S05E12, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Chardea Murray discuss her path to law and tax, getting involved in the Pro Bono and LITC work, and her early career at the IRS. Part 1 of 2.

    S05E11: Jamal Aquil

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2023 14:59


    In S05E11, Gina Ahn and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Jamal Aquil discuss the specifics of the Argrett Fellowship, his path to tax practice, the challenges and obstacles he encountered along the way, and the role of the KPMG Washington National Tax Office in DC.

    S05E10: Alice Thomas - Part 3

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2023 33:38


    In S05E10, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow, Alice Thomas, discuss giving back to the community, her approach to preparing law students for practice, and the Loretta Collins Argrett Fellowship. Part 3 of 3.

    S05E09: Alice Thomas - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2023 22:05


    In S05E09, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow Alice Thomas discuss her family history, her experiences as a black student, and the role both played in bringing her to Howard. Part 2 of 3.

    S05E08: Alice Thomas

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2023 19:30


    In S05E08, Bela Unell and Loretta Collins Argrett Fellow, Alice Thomas, discuss getting involved in non-profit work, her path to teaching tax law, and how important tax law really is. Part 1 of 3.

    S05E07: Karen Lapekas

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2023 21:05


    In S05E07, Bela Unell and Karen Lapekas discuss LLMs and litigation, litigation in practice, and mentorship in the tax law community.

    S05E06: Judge Adam B. Landy

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2022 22:42


    In S05E06, William Schmidt and Judge Adam B. Landy discuss the duties of Special Trial judges, tips for counsel for a smoother process, and advice for young lawyers. Part 2 of 2

    S05E05: Judge Adam B. Landy

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2022 19:18


    In S05E05, William Schmidt and Judge Adam B. Landy discuss learning skills in private practice, applying those skills to the Chief Counsel's Office, and ultimately transitioning to the Tax Court. Part 1 of 2

    S05E04: Erin Collins

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2022 24:41


    In S05E04, William Schmidt and Erin Collins discuss the benefit of working in the IRS Office of Chief Counsel, how things changed in moving to KPMG, some noteworthy cases, how being co-author of the IRS Practice and Procedure Deskbook benefitted her tax controversy practice, how her litigation background prepared her for being National Taxpayer Advocate (NTA), becoming the NTA at the beginning of the pandemic, what people should know when working with the Taxpayer Advocate Service, benefits of the ABA Section of Taxation, and tips for law students or young attorneys interested in tax.

    S05E03: Judge Eunkyong Choi

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2022 19:43


    In S05E03, William Schmidt and Judge Eunkyong Choi discuss becoming a Special Trial Judge, what the work of a Special Trial Judge includes, how Low Income Taxpayer Clinics assist at Tax Court, typical days for a Special Trial Judge, attending ABA conferences again, and being a mentor for law students or young attorneys in tax. (Part 2 of 2).

    S05E02: Judge Eunkyong Choi

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2022 19:36


    In S05E02, William Schmidt and Judge Eunkyong Choi discuss working in Low Income Taxpayer Clinics on tax controversy cases, her family's immigration to the United States from Korea, being the Taxpayer Advocate in the New York City Department of Finance, and regional tax issues such as dealing with different state tax departments. (Part 1 of 2)

    S05E01: Mark Schneider

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2022 32:04


    In S05E01, Bela Unell and Mark Schneider discuss working in the IRS in the 80s, switching from government work to private firms, and how the two sectors interact.

    S04E10: Marie Milnes-Vasquez Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2022 19:41


    In S04E10, in part 2 of 2, Bela Unell and Marie Milnes-Vasquez continue their discussion on becoming an accidental lawyer, opening up more areas of opportunity to people with different backgrounds, and the 'special sauce' that creates a transactional tax attorney.

    S04E09: Marie Milnes-Vasquez Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2022 20:16


    In S04E09, in part 1 of 2, Bela Unell and Marie Milnes-Vasquez discuss working on the IRS side of tax, cases that never make it to court, and the interactions between the IRS and organizations like the ABA.

    Bonus Episode: Bob Wunderle Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2022 44:24


    In this two part bonus episode, Susan Morgenstern and Bob Wunderle discuss the Tax Analysts Public Service Fellowship at La Posada in Twin Falls, Idaho.

    Bonus Episode: Bob Wunderle

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2022 30:20


    In this two part bonus episode, Susan Morgenstern and Bob Wunderle discuss the Tax Analysts Public Service Fellowship at La Posada in Twin Falls, Idaho.

    S04E08: Jonathan Grossberg

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2022 18:37


    In S04E08, Gina Ahn and Jonathan Grossberg discuss student tax law reviews, the ins and outs of tax law publishing, how to get involved in the tax law publishing world.

    S04E07: Janice Shih

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2022 18:58


    In S04E07, Gina Ahn and Janice Shih discuss the challenges and rewards of volunteering with Low-Income Tax Clinics, the surprises of tax practice, and how remote work in the pandemic has actually helped Low-Income Tax Clinics connect to a larger area of clientele.

    S04E06: Samantha Galvin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2022 17:32


    In S04E06, William Schmidt and Samantha Galvin discuss the transition from student to teacher at the University of Denver, teaching in a tax clinic, effects on the clinic from the pandemic and being active in the American Bar Association Section of Taxation.

    S04E05: Michael Desmond

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2022 25:43


    In S04E05, William Schmidt and Michael Desmond discuss his time as IRS Chief Counsel, the benefits of public service, and the opportunities available at ABA Tax Section meetings.

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    S04E04: James Creech

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2022 20:55


    In S04E04, Gina Ahn and James Creech discuss the law school to practice transition, solo practice versus working in a larger firm, and embracing the chaos of tax practice.

    S04E03: Bela Unell

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2022 35:35


    In S04E03, James Creech and Bela Unell discuss her road to National Tax, missing pieces in tax law, and how tax practice has evolved over the last decade.

    S04E02: William Schmidt

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2022 31:04


    In S04E02, Bela Unell and William Schmidt discuss his shift in law school from business law to tax law, the low income taxpayer clinic program, and podcasting.

    S04E01: Gina Ahn

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2022 20:51


    In S04E01, William Schmidt and Gina Ahn discuss her road to tax law, translating tax jargon for clients, and the unexpected nuances in Low Income Tax Clinic practice.

    S03E07: Annie Counts

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2021 44:41


    In S03E07, James Creech and Annie Counts discuss practical tax education, interacting with the tax lawyer community, and virtual learning in tax law.

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    S03E06: Krista Wood

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2021 35:57


    In S03E06, James Creech and Krista Wood discuss learning tax law, working with the IRS Chief Counsel's Office, and working and learning in the time of Covid.

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    S03E05: Bob Probasco

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2021 40:30


    In S03E05, James Creech and Bob Probasco discuss the role of tax clinics in tax administration, tax practice "war stories," and getting involved in the tax lawyer community.

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    S03E03: Sharon Heck

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2021 29:10


    In S03E03, James Creech and Sharon Heck discuss the role of tax in running a business, how to predict the future, and how to talk to business partners about tax.

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    S03E02: Heather Fincher

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2021 38:23


    In S03E02, James Creech and Heather Fincher discuss the ABA Women in Tax Forum, parallels between athletics and practicing tax law, and using new methods to teach and present tax concepts to finance and treasury professionals.

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    S03E02: Juan Vasquez Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2021 21:24


    In S03E02, James Creech and Judge Juan Vasquez discuss his road to the Tax Court, the value tax lawyers bring to their clients, and the role of tax law in social justice. (Part 2 of 2)

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    S03E01: Juan Vasquez Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2021 29:08


    In S03E01, James Creech and Judge Juan Vasquez discuss his road to the Tax Court, the value tax lawyers bring to their clients, and the role of tax law in social justice. (Part 1 of 2)

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    S02E33: Jamie Szal

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2020 54:25


    In S02E33, James Creech and Jamie Szal discuss the ins and outs of SALT practice, including life after Wayfair, the perspective of women in SALT practice, and adapting to working and networking during the pandemic.

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    S02E32: Phyllis Epstein

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2020 54:17


    In S02E32, James Creech and Phyllis Epstein discuss the perceptions of tax law and tax lawyers, diversity in the field, and the human element of tax practice.

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    S02E31: Philip Speicher

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2020 35:13


    In S02E31, James Creech and Philip Speicher discuss tax litigation, working with clients, and handling expectations for both.

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    S02E30: Lewis Taischoff

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2020 44:05


    In S02E30, James Creech and Lewis Taischoff discuss writing about tax, and how to keep readers engaged with  it,  judicial nicknames, baseball metaphors, sympathetic clients, and what makes good blog material, ending with the changes in case management in the court.

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