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Cinder Ernst is a friend of mine who I met through the 6 Figure Songwriting cohort with Catch The Moon Music! She is one of the most refreshing, inspiring and real people I have had the pleasure of getting to know. Her bubbly personality is a force to be reckoned with and it is easily passed on to whomever gets the opportunity to be graced in her presence.
This week I am talking with my friend and co-writer Hope Thal who lives in L.A. She is a great film composer who has worked on multiple indie projects and is now on staff at Joy Music House which offers music preparation, orchestrating, and everything else that goes into creating a great score. Hope is also currently working behind the scenes on a top secret t.v. show for Dreamworks. We met when she was a guest speaker for a course I was taking and I reached out to her about writing together for tv and film projects. Thankfully she said yes and now we get to talk about her journey that has led her to this moment. I know you will be encouraged by her story!Show Notes:Sponsors: Edenbrooke Productions - We offer consulting services and are offering listeners a 1-hour introductory special. To request more info on consulting services, email Marty at contact@johnmartinkeith.com. Talking Points:*Make sure you’re always doing something that you like and that you’re good at when you’re trying to become a professional musician.*It helps to be able to say I did this ten episode web series, people don’t even have to see it to already feel like “Oh because you’re doing something, I feel that if somebody hired you then there’s more hope to hire you than if I hadn’t done anything."*Relationships are a skill you have to develop.*Having boldness and a tasteful manner is very important.*It says a lot when you’re just willing to put yourself out there.*Be persistent.*It’s okay to keep asking when things are getting rescheduled, they’re not trying to avoid you.*Check out Catch The Moon Music.*Never say "no." You’ll figure it out as you go.“Spotting Session” - Sitting with the executive producer to watch the show and talk about the score. When is the music in and out, deciding if the temp music works or if it needs to replaced.*My job is to take notes during the session and make the time code and make sure I’ve gotten everything they’ve talked about so that composers can just engage with the director or executive producer without having to write anything down.*After the composers create the music, I add all the music into Logic and do a Quicktime movie for pass number one, then send it over for review, get notes and keep going back and forth until it’s where they want it.*Occasionally I get to be the one doing the music editing.*I do all the printing of the stems which is taking the entire episode and separating all the tracks for the mixing stage.*I create lead sheets for the music which is writing out the melody line and chord chart from the audio.*What I’m doing now will produce fruit later if I’m just patient and be the best that I can at everything I’m doing.*What is some practical advice for scoring or composing or admin work?*Get involved in the community of whatever you are doing.*Most work has been through word of mouth, relationships, school, AWFC, Society of Composers and Lyricists.*The work you’re doing may not pay bills now, but it will lead to opportunities in the future. Small steps.*It takes an incredible amount of patience and trust that those are the results you’re going to get.*Your talent is important but you have to put time and energy into making sure people know you exist.*Patience and persistence!*It takes time to build that career.H.B. Thal website Hope Bartimioli Thal (H.B. Thal) is a composer, songwriter and vocalist based out of Los Angeles. She studied classical voice at Grand Canyon University in Arizona before moving to LA to study Film Scoring at UCLA Extension. Since graduating in 2017 she has been writing on various independent projects including 2018 LA Live Festival Best Short film winner: Cat’s Outta the Bag.She is a composer at Joy Music House, a score production company started by composer Catherine Joy which offers services including music preparation, orchestrating, and everything else that goes into creating a great score. In March, 2019 H.B. released a self titled 4 song EP on all platforms showcasing her skills as a songwriter as well as joining the administrative team of The AWFC (The Alliance for Women Film Composers), as the Director of Communications.Hope has a passion for story telling through score and songwriting. Whether it is assisting other composers or working with filmmakers she loves to collaborate and be a part of bringing stories to life.
On this week’s episode, we talked with Cathy Heller, songwriter and President of Catch The Moon Music, a songwriting agency for T.V., ads, and film based out of Los Angeles. In our conversation, she shares where her love of music stems from, how she used closed doors as an opportunity to create her own path, and why she’s now offering courses for other songwriters. The post EP 136: Playing Big With A Boutique Music Licensing Company with Catch The Moon Music Founder Cathy Heller appeared first on What Works.
Songwriter and Podcast Host Cathy Heller joins Mallory in The MILK Studio. Cathy’s passion is helping others to realize their passions, and her podcast “Don’t Keep Your Day Job,” is hugely popular. Each week, Cathy interviews guests like Jonathan Adler, Bobbi Brown, Jenna Fischer and other creative powerhouses, who share their successes and how they arrived where they are, inspiring her listeners to make money doing what they love. Cathy is a songwriter, and started out pitching her own music in the film and television world. She has licensed her songs over hundreds of times to to film, television and commercials, and has been featured in Billboard, LA Weekly, and Variety. She went on to start her own licensing company, Catch The Moon Music and helps represents other songwriters as well. With the “Don’t Keep Your Day Job” podcast and on-line community she has created, Cathy acts as mentor, coach, and friend to her listeners. We talk multi-tasking mamas, marriage, authenticity, guilt, expectations and making others feel valued. Cathy lives in Los Angeles with her family, where she gets to write songs outside on her guitar! Find her out at www.CathyHeller.com
Cathy Heller has built a career in the Sync Licensing world after building a career with placements in TV Shows, Movies, and Commercials. After her success, she started her own company, Catch The Moon Music, where she represents and helps other musicians with sync licensing success. She’s an incredible teacher and mentor, offering consultations, and courses for musicians. One of her newest passions as a teacher, includes being the host of her own podcast, Don’t Keep Your Day Job. In this conversation, you’ll learn what types of songs have the most success in sync licensing, common themes and genres that have the most success, how to get a sync licensing agent, and much more. To learn more about Cathy Heller, visit http://www.cathyheller.com/ and https://www.dontkeepyourdayjob.com/. Keep in touch:chris.goyzueta@gmail.com www.makingitwithchrisg.com https://www.instagram.com/chrisgoyzueta/ https://www.facebook.com/makingitwithchrisg Credits: Host: Chris G. Producer: Jason TrosclairExecutive Producer: ONElive Creative Agency Music: Emily Kopp