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Michelle and David continue the conversation on how the Military's actions and inaction further cement its place in the complex of industry. This final episode brings things together and adds some last thoughts. Stay tuned for next season and special bonus episodes in the works.    Episode Sources:    https://theintercept.com/2021/08/26/afghanistan-america-failures/   https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/   https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/iraq-war-media-fail-matt-taibbi-812230/   https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2009/0213/p05s01-woeu.html   https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/unexploded-american-bombs-killing-children-laos   https://earth.org/us-military-pollution/   https://thewashingtonstandard.com/as-ukranians-get-killed-displaced-weapons-companies-reaping-record-profits-off-their-suffering/   How to Hide an Empire by Daniel Immerwahr Manufacturing Consent by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky The End of the Myth by Greg Grandin Washington Bullets by Vijay Prashad A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn Family of Secrets by Russ Baker The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins  Killing Hope by William Blum

In this episode Michelle and David do a deep dive into the assassination of John F. Kennedy. This well researched and beautifully explained episode covers motives and methods, backstories of key player, and inconsistencies in the investigations. Whether you have had limited exposure or if you are a true JFK expert, this episode has something for you. Email the hosts with questions and comments  Resources: JFK and the Unspeakable James W Douglass American Exception by Aaron Good Brothers David Talbot The Devil's Chessboard David Talbot Death is Just Around the Corner Podcast JFK 4 part series (I listened on youtube) TrueAnon Podcast 6 Part JFK series (most episodes are on their patreon) Oliver Stone's JFK American Exception Podcast JFK series (an ongoing project, at the time of recording there were at least 11 episodes in the series) Family of Secrets Russ Baker https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKdeaths.htm (EXTENSIVE resource)   

Michelle and David tackle the CIA and how, through the Dulles brothers, the U.S. toppled governments and put in place leadership favorable to the United States. Join the show's patreon at www.patreon.com/expirationdate Email them at mailto:expriationdatethepodcast@gmail.com Follow the show on twitter: www.twitter.com/expirationpod  Resources for this episode are: Killing Hope by William Blum   The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government Book by David Talbot   https://open.spotify.com/episode/5t9jjYOblngt1Xf51I7uqd?si=nsAAEGHKSfCGv67z8a5Sgg&utm_source=copy-link ( in this episode, the hosts interview Matt Taibbi. I quote him in the story but do not say it. The conclusion about the Trump activism is his.)    https://open.spotify.com/episode/1XcnRQHPtKexudT7r0kzxB?si=eUn0RXfpRbuFRojalBpV6g&utm_source=copy-link   https://open.spotify.com/episode/5xga09jL3RvQKx0vPdt3AI?si=A0HaEI5XS0CgAWo3BMinUQ&utm_source=copy-link    

In the first of a multi-episode series on the Intelligence wing of the Military Industrial Complex, more specifically, the CIA. Michelle and David start by setting the stage with the Dulles brothers and their full impact on the intelligence community. All resources are listed below.    Support the Expiration Date Podcast by being a Patreon member at https://www.patreon.com/ExpirationDate    Follow Expiration Date on Twitter @ExpirationPod   Three part series on the Dulles Brothers:  https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ragK8hvmjCMyRPRfUCjhX?si=UPPrLYXATh24zUTNf22Q_A&utm_source=copy-link   https://open.spotify.com/episode/3QSkENg5zGjzW6fIfVN41y?si=EZMxXjICR-2AgJueTaqUAw&utm_source=copy-link   https://open.spotify.com/episode/0qTd9nrbfedW1bfhyJUpFR?si=gsOC75P4SmaNgMVkqm-b9g&utm_source=copy-link   The Devil's Chessboard by David Talbot https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24723229-the-devil-s-chessboard   The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles & Their Secret World War by Stephen Kinzer https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17286725-the-brothers   Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put it in the White House & What Their Influence Means for America by Russ Baker   https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4274612-family-of-secrets   Misc Resources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Foster_Dulles   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_of_the_Hawaiian_Kingdom   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lansing   https://www.history.com/news/how-the-sinking-of-lusitania-changed-wwi

Michelle and David are back for Season Two of Expiration Date. There is an updated logo but the same great reporting. This season is all about the Military Industrial Complex.  In this first episode they provide an overview of the season as based on three specific wars. References are below. Feel Free to follow them on Twitter and Email them with any comments/feedback. Enjoy.   References: https://theintercept.com/2021/08/26/afghanistan-america-failures/   https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/   https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/iraq-war-media-fail-matt-taibbi-812230/   https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2009/0213/p05s01-woeu.html   https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/unexploded-american-bombs-killing-children-laos   https://earth.org/us-military-pollution/   https://www.palestinechronicle.com/ghassan-kanafani-voice-of-palestine-1936-1972/   https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdDjHFr7/   https://thewashingtonstandard.com/as-ukranians-get-killed-displaced-weapons-companies-reaping-record-profits-off-their-suffering/     Season Source Books    How to Hide an Empire by Daniel Immerwahr Manufacturing Consent by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky The End of the Myth by Greg Grandin Washington Bullets by Vijay Prashad A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn Family of Secrets by Russ Baker The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins  Killing Hope by William Blum

In this episode Michelle and David investigate the origins of the FBI. They discuss how, when, and why it was established, focuses of the organization, and ideas on why they operate as they do.  As alway, references are listed below and if you have any questions, comments, or disagreements, email them at experiationdatethepodcast@gmail.com Thanks! https://www.fbi.gov/history/brief-history https://www.britannica.com/topic/Palmer-Raids  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_the_Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation#Creation_of_FBI  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO  https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro/new-left/cointel-pro-new-left-richmond-part-01-of-01/view  https://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/subs/testimony/040505-fbi-mueller.pdf  https://innocenceproject.org/julius-jones-death-row-oklahoma-what-to-know/  https://abc7chicago.com/mi-governor-kidnap-plot-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer/10948197/  http://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syndicated/from-dragnet-to-cops-the-media-industry-reckons-with-a-long-history-of-glorifying-law-enforcement/  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FBI_controversies  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-fbi-cointelpro-progra_b_4375527  https://digpodcast.org/2020/07/19/black-panther-party/  https://www.ajc.com/news/victim-of-attempted-lynching-charged-with-assaulting-his-attackers/46G3GV2UTFGV5G3PNM3K26E65M/    

It is the season finale! This episode talks about what happens when you go to court and wraps up some hanging issues. Email us with questions/comments and check out our Patreon Page. Thanks for listening.  References: law.cornell.edu/wex/jury_of_one%27s_peers#:~:text=This%20right%20can%20be%20found,jury.”%20See%20Impartial%20Jury.   https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-criminal-cases-actually-go-trial.html   https://www.novalegalgroup.com/what-percentage-of-criminal-cases-go-to-trial/#:~:text=IT%20IS%20COMMONLY%20ACCEPTED%20THAT,%5D%2C%20EVER%20GO%20TO%20TRIAL.   https://indefenseof.us/issues/processed/prosecuted   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#United_States (lead to source:  BJS Staff. "FAQ Detail: What is the probability of conviction for felony defendants?". Bureau of Justice Statistics. Retrieved 21 January 2020.)   https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-8349_6k47.pdf   https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/publications/youraba/2017/march-2017/panelists-call--i-batson--i--a-failure--offer-solutions/   https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/30/how-big-a-difference-does-an-all-white-jury-make-a-leading-expert-explains/   https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/62571376.pdf   Explicit content warning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f2iawp0y5Y   https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/csi-is-a-lie/390897/   https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2010/oct/15/crime-labs-in-crisis-shoddy-forensics-used-to-secure-convictions/   https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/reversing-legacy-junk-science-courtroom   https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/hollywood-police-a-deep-complicated-now-strained-relationship-1301211/   https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-are-wrongly-convicted-people-still-imprisoned-in-missouri/   https://man.fas.org/smedley.htm    

In this episode Michelle and David talk about the 13th amendment and prison labor. Check out the unedited version of this episode (with full craziness) at the Expiration Date Patreon Page. Here are the resources for the episode: https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amendment-xiii https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-4/section-2/ https://www.npr.org/transcripts/884989263    

In this episode Michelle and David demonstrate how private prisons and the residual organizations are lucrative business models. The emphasis is not corrections or serving time, but how these companies maximize profits. The question is not is it legal but is it moral?   Email them with questions or comments by clicking This Link or visit the Expiration Date Patreon page. Sources from this episode: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/opinion/prison-food-farming-health.html   https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/09/the-cop-who-quit-instead-of-helping-to-gentrify-atlanta/   https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2020/07/05/lawyers-breonna-taylor-case-connected-gentrification-plan/5381352002/   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks   https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/   https://ij.org/press-release/new-report-finds-civil-forfeiture-rakes-in-billions-each-year-does-not-fight-crime-2/     https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/legal_aid_indigent_defendants/ls-sclaid-def-aba-privatizaton-report-final-june-2020.pdf     https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2018/aug/4/prison-food-and-commissary-services-recipe-disaster/   https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/14/593204274/alabama-sheriff-legally-took-750-000-meant-to-feed-inmates-bought-beach-house   https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/money.html    https://www.aclu.org/issues/smart-justice/mass-incarceration/private-prisons    

This is just a quick update about Ledell Lee's case Statement from AG Leslie Rutledge: "The courts consistently rejected Ledell Lee's frivolous claims because the evidence demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt that he murdered Debra Reese by beating her to death inside her home with a tire thumper. After 20 years, I am prayerful that Debra's family has had closure following his lawful execution in 2017."    Reaction from Governor Asa Hutchinson: CLICK HERE   Article featuring friend of the show, Furonda Brasfield: CLICK HERE   Listen to Episode 1 - An Innocent Man

In this bonus episode, Michelle and David react and discuss the verdict in the Chauvin murder trial of George Floyd. EMAIL The Hosts Find them on Patreon Follow them on Twitter  Link to the Tyler Childer's song "Long Violent History"     *music on this episode used by permission by freemusicarchive.org

We're back! In this episode we discuss mental illness and the criminal legal system. We go all over the place in this episode, so buckle up and try to keep an open mind. Trigger warnings: We discuss violence, terrorrism, racism, and policing.    Sources:  https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/key-issues/criminalization-of-mental-illness/2976-people-with-untreated-mental-illness-16-times-more-likely-to-be-killed-by-law-enforcement-   https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-terrorism-isis-grave-threats/   https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-31-fake-isis-plots-and-the-selling-of-forever-war-141e7e6dbf25     https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/what-is-mental-illness   https://www.nami.org/Advocacy/Policy-Priorities/Divert-from-Justice-Involvement/Jailing-People-with-Mental-Illness   https://www.mhanational.org/issues/state-mental-health-america   https://www.healio.com/news/psychiatry/20201016/most-police-officers-never-seek-mental-health-care-despite-apparent-need   https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/1/e001720   https://kutv.com/news/local/40-of-police-officer-families-experience-domestic-violence-study-says   https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-officers-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/   https://www.justsecurity.org/72339/qanon-is-a-nazi-cult-rebranded/   https://open.spotify.com/episode/5gFTZEYaWNpB4XbdHrZ4RS?si=_o_O0XwOTQ291Wl0c2bDdA     https://open.spotify.com/episode/1TdD48FpK2hh5HjYkS2nu6?si=xtTb3_qbQJqVtlcz73Ib0A              

Michelle and David report on the statistics and condition of women who find themselves part of the criminal justice system. From family court to transgender interactions in the legal system, this episode sheds light on what women face in today's legal system. Hear from expert Victoria Law in her second part interview with Expiration Date. Resourceshttps://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/07/26/our-long-troubling-history-of-sterilizing-the-incarcerated https://theappeal.org/justice-in-america-episode-6-the-faces-of-mass-incarceration/ https://theappeal.org/incarcerated-transgender-womens-lives-must-matter/ https://theappeal.org/justice-in-america-episode-23-criminalizing-mothers/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_of_women_in_the_United_States#cite_ref-13 https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/incarcerated-women-and-girls/ https://www.prisonpolicy.org/global/women/2018.html https://eji.org/cases/trina-garnett/  

In this episode Michelle and David spend the first part defining the concept of a "school to prison pipeline" and will discuss broader things that undermine education in America. Also, they will introduce the first part of our interview with Victoria Law ( https://victorialaw.net/ ) where they discuss the prison system as a whole.  Check out some of the resources for the episode:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoKkasEyDOI http://www.justicepolicy.org/news/8775 https://theappeal.org/justice-in-america-episode-28-school-to-prison-pipeline/ https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/citations-needed-episode-01-the-charter-school-scam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_htSPGAY7I  (NSFW) https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510356/no-compromise https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/07/arizona-fight-koch-brothers-school-vouchers https://manualredeye.com/90096/news/local/police-training-hitler-presentation/   (the original article, this story was later picked up by NYT, WaPO, and most other major publications)  https://resilienteducator.com/news/illiteracy-in-america/ The most IMPORTANT source, can really sum up everything: https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-39-from-cradle-to-courtroom-how-the-media-stacks-the-deck-against-defendants Preview YouTube video The school-to-prison pipeline, explained The school-to-prison pipeline, explained Preview YouTube video Charter Schools: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) Charter Schools: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)  

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In the second part of Episode 2, Michelle and David interview local attorney Furonda Basfield. Ms. Brasfield provides an in the trenches view and description of the criminal legal system, from arrest to trial. Email with comments and questions expirationdatethepodcast@gmail.com or patreon.com/expirationdate. 

In this episode, Michelle and David respond to feedback, introduce a new segment, and share more research. They seek to provide context for where the criminal legal systems stands today. Email with comments and questions expirationdatethepodcast@gmail.comReferences from this episode:https://theappeal.org/justice-in-america-police-accountability/ https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/tom-cotton-under-incarceration-223371 https://westwoodonepodcasts.com/pods/5-4/ The Terry v Ohio episode https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/06/05/policekillings/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7331505/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/how-police-brutality-gets-made/613030/ https://www.npr.org/2016/11/01/500104506/broken-windows-policing-and-the-origins-of-stop-and-frisk-and-how-it-went-wrong  

In the first series episode, Michelle and David discuss the motivation to start a podcast focusing on the Prison Industrial System. They discuss the case of Ledell Lee, the history of crime and policing, and current statistics around capital punishment. This approachable story is an entry to understanding today's legal system. Email with comments expirationdatethepodcast@gmail.com. For more on the Ledell case and a list of sources, visit and support their work with a monetary contribution at the Expiration Date Patreon Page.

Expiration Date is an access point for people to understand and experience the modern U.S. criminal justice system. Across 10 episodes Michelle and David investigate major topics which surround the prison system. Join them as they talk to inside experts on issues from the school to prison pipeline through what happens after the death penalty is carried out.