Milo Time

Alana joins the podcast to discuss a surprising favorite of Milo's and the circumstances that brought the album to the attention of Milo and Max. Thank you Alana!

Please enjoy his episode, which reminds us that most things that happen in lives life first appeared in an episode of Seinfeld.

Please enjoy this episode of Milo Time, the first ever recorded remotely. And please also enjoy the remains of a container of ice cream--directly from the container itself--in honor of our Milo.

Milo Time as a look at the list of things Milo loved. Milo Time as much more than just a look at the list. We are starting a new initiative. Milo Kessler Fund at Brooklyn Tech. Tree in Prospect Park, Bench in Prospect Park, Plaque and paving stone at the US Open. Essential and heartbreaking memorials to Milo. Co-naming 1st Street between 1st Street 4th and 5th Avenues "Milo Kessler Way." Co-naming process has been been heartwarming and communal. Submit a writing in favor of the Co-naming request. Statement to Community Board 6 and New York City. Share the submission.

Please enjoy this discussion concerning the great Kendrick Lamar. Milo put us on to Kendrick when he (Milo) was very young. Milo told us Kendrick was a genius and he was absolutely right.

Having listened to the last episode of Milo Time, called Personal Statement, and in thinking about the few episodes prior to that one, Lisa has other recollections to discuss. While not prompted entirely by the List of things Milo Loved, this discussion is what I hope Milo Time can be at times: A completely unexpected conversation that is, above all, honest, real, and true to our experience. I thank Lisa for her courage and love as evidenced by her willingness to raise and discuss such difficult and sensitive matters "without a net."An alert that this episode includes a discussion of sensitive matters that some listeners may find upsetting or particularly difficult.   

Join me for words from Milo.

Welcome to Brooklyn, English Major and sports, Dave and Lisa are Mets fans, Mets stole Juan Soto from the Yankees, Lisa appreciates the meditative feel of baseball, Lisa noticed the Oakland A's are playing in Sacramento in a minor league park, Alana loves Juan Soto, Jose Siri injured, Sweaty ridge sounds like something from Blazing Saddles, Not necessarily something Milo loved, but it's on the list nevertheless, Milo unusual looking, enormous head, Eyes wide set, Tiny nose, Milo had curly but thin hair when he was very young, Wispy, curly hair matted down on top of his forehead, Sweaty ridge revealed that Milo was heated, Milo probably didn't care for sweaty ridge, Alana dubbed sweaty ridge, Milo had a "bruh" mentality about sweaty ridge, A little Bartleby the Scrivener, Standard Milo deflection, Even as Milo got older we'd occasionally point out his sweaty ridge, We miss the dismissive Milo, Flat faced dismissal,   

Brooklyn, Stay tune for the NEW version of Sweet Lefty, the song about and dedicated to Milo, by The Idea of Machines, Techno version, Andrew Edison grew up in Houston, Milo and Daryl traveled to Houston the Summer Max first went to sleepaway camp, Milo wrote Max a two word letter "I threw", Andy Edison and Brian Cooper, Jacquie and Kendall Cooper, Milo and Kendall bonding by couch diving, Aquarium, Astros game, Donna Edison, Shelby Edison, Such a great trip, Photos @milotimepodcast, Milo the Comewith Guy, Anything we did Milo was game, Milo and Shelby playing Wiii, Sleeping in the bed with Milo, "This is working!", Going for ribs from the Astros game, Ices outside the aquarium, Tex Mex restaurant, So much fun to be with Milo, Really fun person, Milo didn't like the tip of his pizza, Andy, Donna, and Shelby still send us pictures of pizza with no tips, Pizza in Bend, Oregon, We trust Andy and Donna, Idea of Machines, the brainchild of Jared Fontane

On this episode we explore Lisa's experience as a dear friend throughout Milo's treatment. Daryl has questions.

Upper West Side, Indian Wells Tennis, Daryl and Alana ticket buying, Lisa wants better seats, Daryl's ticket buying preferences, Stadiums at Indian Wells are small, Lisa notes Daryl's preference for not-great seats at sporting events, Lisa trying to persuade, Larry A is a great selection for Max, Larry A=Lawrence of Arabia, Max and Milo loved movies, Find Milo's Letterbox'd account @milotimepodcast, Donny B, Max and Milo had their own language, No Country, Inglorious, In, Mel Brooks, Clint Eastwood, Renee Russo, Watching Larry A with Milo while Milo was in treatment, The Maltese Falcon, Coded language between the boys, Sometimes siblings get lost in the shuffle, which we never want to happen to Max, Max and Milo such great brothers to each other, Milo looked up to Max, Max always let Milo in, No competition between the boys, The way Milo would say "Donny B" was always very special, Link In Bio, as opposed to Linktree

Upper West Side, Lea Thone, Los Angeles, Indian Wells, Rain in Indian Wells and San Diego, Central Park April 2001, Al Gore chart, Very little snow in New York City anymore, Callback to Bully Tanner episode, Citizen Cope, Appalachian extends through the Berkshires, Lee in particular, Hike with Max and Milo, One granola bar, Trail marked with paint slashes, Markings spread out, Milo is 5 and Max is 8, Daryl with a horrendous sense of direction, Daryl concerned each time the markings are out of view, Visions of The Blair Witch Project, No phone on me, Boys made fun of me for years about that hike, Second hike included Alana, This time we really got lost, Park services picked us up in a golf cart, Max was just hiking in Zion and Bryce Canyon, Milo loved to make fun of Daryl for those hikes, Better to have Alana around on the second hike for a variety of reasons, No need to mention Mark Sanford 

Lisa keeps the focus on our amazing visit with Lea Thone and here equally amazing son, Eli Wall. 

Upper West Side, Mughlai Indian restaurant, Eagle Court, 84th between Broadway and Amsterdam, Alana and Daryl love Indian food, John Scully and Daryl played cribbage in college, Cribbage simply a card game, Board is just a scoreboard, Milo loved cribbage, Maybe a thousand games of cribbage with Milo, Milo liked sports video games, FIFA, Madden, NBA2K, Milo preferred a board game, Catan, Better strategist would win more often over time, Over time Milo would beat me more often than I would beat him, Video games don't require strategy the same way, Cards were always interesting to Milo, Probability and statistics, Card games quiet, Meditative component, With the Nachsins in Ocean City, Monopoly with the Nachsins, Milo and Daryl played cribbage, Milo never declined to play, Cribbage sounds like bridge, but is very simple, Milo and Daryl played at Sloan Kettering regularly, A few nurses at Sloan Kettering like cribbage, Brant Sistrom, Father and dear friend Milo died one after the other, Brant, like Milo, loved cribbage and Catan, Daryl and Brant have played cribbage together, Daryl warns Brant that he's gunning for him, Daryl invites others to play cribbage and to come to him for instruction, Great tribute to Milo, The Idea of Machines

While Milo never met Lea, we know he would have loved her and her Son Eli, just as we do. Thank you, Lea and Eli for your courage in all matters.

As March 11, 2025 approaches, please celebrate our boy. And if you are inclined, please let us know about it. 

Upper West Side, Studio A, Henry's room, Alana, Max, and Daryl old stomping ground, Spending time with Dave and Lisa in Southern California, Indian Wells, Palm Springs, What else will we do in LA?, Lisa's Los Angeles friends remain normal, Great produce in LA, Erewhon grocery store, Waymo self-driving cars, Like there's a ghost driving the car, No need to wait for a human, Just an app and a machine driving, Smoothest turns conceivable, Luddite Daryl will report back on Waymo, Dave Hillman angle to Bleeder, Dave used to live on 6th Avenue, Ray Mercer boxing match, Marc Rosenthal was there as well, Max Kellerman, ESPN announcer, Public Access Television in New York City, Cooking with the Hook, Max on Boxing, Show started as WFAN was just getting started, Max would take callers, Dave and Daryl have broadcasting interest, Dave as Big Al from Queens, Bleedahs and tomato cans, Sounds like Grandpa Irwin, Milo loved he idea of Dave calling Max Kellerman with an obviously fake accent, Vito Antuofermo as a big bleeder, Grandma Terry might pronounce bleeder that way, too, Milo thought Dave was very funny, Dave and Milo had a wonderful relationship, even when Milo was treating, Milo always appreciated Dave's humor. 

Upper West Side, Uneventful trip R to the 2, which went local, Great children's books, Daryl becoming emotional at the end of The Story of Ferdinand, Not preparing as a rule, to allow real emotion to appear, Lisa summarizes The Story of Ferdinand, Milo had some Ferdinand in him, Marched to the beat of his own drummer, Words at the end of The Story of Ferdinand caught Daryl off guard, I'm Still Here, Emotional reactions to art, Lisa calls back to an episode in which we discussed a harrowing weekend down the Jersey Shore with the Nachsin family, Kara Kramer, Erno Rubik and his Magic Cube, Kara wins another award, Ezra Jack Keats Foundation, Kara has noted that we should all be open to the full human experience, good and difficult, We have new glasses through which we see the world, From a horrific circumstance there is beauty in knowledge and understanding, Relationship with death changes as you get older, We all spend time thinking it's not going to happen, Distinction between fooling yourself and recognizing reality and finding joy despite it, Terrible things happen to people who don't deserve them, David Dimlich back in our lives, This is reality, tell me about your reality, as your friend, The purpose of art, I'm Still Here, Focus on the lead actress's face   

Upper West Side, Studio A/Henry's room, Portugal, Alana, Max, Lacie Foreht, European vibe, American vibe v. European vibe, Lisbon, Porto, Santiago de Compostela, Very European, Face-to-face communication, Walked, ate, drank, had a lovely time, Ren & Stimpy, Plumpy, Candyland, Board game, Move around the board by picking cards, Plumpy sent you back to the beginning, Trips to Florida with Gordon, Katie, Zachary, and Noah, Milo, Max, Alana, and Daryl, Playing Candyland with the boys and nephews, Daryl would spot Plumpy and set it aside, Uncle Daddy, Boys and nephews doing a song and dance about Uncle Daddy drawing Plumpy, Milo doing the robot, Boys continued to humor me over time, Noah must have known, All must have known eventually, Uncle Daddy got Plumpy dance, Like Chutes & Ladders, If someone's going to finish last it will be Uncle Daddy, Alana would play the boys in ping pong and beat them, Daryl struggled to allow himself to beat the boys at games, Alana and Daryl complementing each other in this way, Learned many important lessons about toughness and grit from Alana, and other lessons from Daryl, Alana is an amazing athlete and great tennis player, Daryl less good athlete and much less good tennis player, Daryl would feel bad for opponents, Not so Alana, Alana was routinely crushing people, Plumpy story is some evidence of the different approaches, Maybe Alana was also celebrating when Uncle Daddy got Plumpy

Upper West Side, Studio Henry, Lisa swimming at the JCC, Drama, Swimming lanes, Slow lanes, Fast lane, Medium lanes, People in incorrect swimming lanes, Swimming etiquette, Relative speed?, Metropolitan Diary submission, No physical altercation, George Baruth is a name from a book, Matt Christopher, Very mundane books, Daryl wrote a letter to Matt Christopher, The Kid With The Golden Arm, The Kid Who Only Hit Homers, Title is exactly the plot of the book, Star of the book was named Sylvester, Shady old man named George Baruth give Sylvester advice, Moral of the story was very oblique for second graders, Reads like a pedophile hanging around youth practices, What lesson are the boys taking?, Book was old so it might have been suggesting taking advice from crusty old men, Maybe a series of books about The Kid Who Only Hit Homers, No George Baruth Chronicles, For many years Max and Milo would make George Baruth jokes, Random old guys as George Baruths, @milotimepodcast, Turn a heartwarming story into a cautionary tale  

Join us for one of Milo's favorites. We hope you find some place to listen, just quietly.

Lisa botched the subway ride to the studio, Atlantic Avenue, DeKalb Avenue, NYC Subway is extraordinary and safe, though there have been recent publicized incidents, Not Dot Dot was a refrain Max and Milo used to repeat, Our family loves racket sports, Tennis, Ping pong, Kadima, Makeshift ping pong table, We ultimately bought an outdoor ping pong table, We hired someone to build the ping pong table, Wouldn't it be great to have lights so we could play ping pong into the night,  Bike ride to Lowes or Home Depot, Purchase flood lights and the wrong bulbs, So distraught, Ordinarily the boys would have worked me over for this mistake, The boys took mercy on me and began the cheer Not Dot Dot, It was a refrain that the boys revived many times over the years, Daryl reveals some strategy, The Idea of Machines' Sweet Lefty

Lisa in the studio in Brooklyn, Julie Keil Riordan needed to help clean the clutter in the studio, Plea to audience for questions, information, discussion, beef, etc., Soccer-adjacent episode, Soccer players often wear nicknames on their jerseys, Pele, Edson Arantes Do Nascimento, How does a soccer player receive his or her nickname?, Brazilian soccer name generator, We found the website when Milo was in second grade, Karen Bacall, Alana's Brazilian soccer name was Fishba, Daryl's was Daldo, Max was Mildo, Milo was Kessliano, Henry Hillman was Hezo, Same name generated every time, Karen Bacall, Milo's second grade teacher, was something like Hosta Da Costa, Adam Cherry was Adildo, Brazilian Soccer Name generator link on Linktree @milotimepodcast, Please share your Brazilian soccer names  

Milo's big brother and closest friend and confidante, Max, joins Milo Time this week to discuss Brooklyn Tech High School, the extraordinary Fellowship we have establish there in Milo's honor, and many other related matters. Thank you for listening to this deeply special episode.

Lisa back in the studio in Brooklyn, First episode of 2025, New Year's Eve, Jody, Debbie, Samantha, and Nora Brant, Alvin Ailey, Home on NYE before midnight, Samantha Brant an accomplished dancer, very self-effacing, Alana's birthday, Lisa has listener response and feedback of her own. Talking about talking about Milo, Lisa notes that a proper response to a grieving friend is not that complicated, Daryl concedes he has failed friends in his past and has empathy for others in our world trying to communicate with us,  Lisa's first reaction to news of our impending vacation, Lisa wants us to have moments, even though those moments will never balance out the loss, Lisa expresses frustration that more can't be done and that the loss impacts everything, Lisa has done tremendous good for our family, even though there is no solution to the ultimate problem, "You know that I know that the loss can't be balanced out" is a wonderful sentiment, Milo tapping on our shoulder anytime and always, Lacie Foreht joining us in Portugal, which will be great, Traveled to Copenhagen and Stockholm in the months after Milo died, Discussions about shock, Looking forward to traveling to Portugal but concerned about a misunderstanding by people who see photos of our traveling, Should we seek power over how we are perceived?, Experiences without Milo will always be difficult, It seems important to be connected to people who understand the depth of this loss and not misunderstand our smiles, If we had a visible injury, people would always be aware of it, Talking about the talking about is always a part of the challenge, The Idea of Machines, Sweet Lefty       

The most special Milo Time guest, Alana, and I discuss the joys and challenges of life events. Please join us for a listen and then join us in conversation.

Join me as we take a look back at the first two years of Milo Time. What have we learned? What have we accomplished? 

Upper West Side, Lisa and family traveling to Colombia, Shout out to Debbie Hillman Goldberg and Iris Hillman, Iris Hillman's 84th birthday, Cartagena, Isla Baru, Debbie's daughter danced at the Nets game, Bass-O-Matic, Strat-O-Matic, Stratocaster, Company in Long Island, Game for young sports fan nerds, Board game, Index card for each player on each team in Major League Baseball, Gateway drug for fantasy sports, The card for each player matched the performance in the previous year, Reggie Jackson, Joe Charboneau, Still making Strat-O-Matic cards today, Topps Attax, Wonder if the boys will like Strat-O-Matic, Enough baseball nerds out there, Max, Milo, and Daryl drafting teams and keeping stats, precursor to love for fantasy sports, Lovably analog, Parents never know what will stick for kids, Thrilled that the boys were interested in Strat-O-Matic, Milo always loved board games with friends, Monopoly, Catan, Risk, Loved the banter and loved that it was quiet, Intense data and baseball experience, Strat-O-Matic basketball and hockey, Any listeners ever play Strat-O-Matic?, Let's play!, Boys loved playing with the old cards, Pass the Poi "Milo"

Lisa hosting in Studio C, Henry, Isabel, Lisa's 11-year-old niece dancing at a Brooklyn Nets game, Westchester, Eastchester, Eric Adams former Brooklyn Borough President and soon-to-be former Mayor, G Train, Lisa used the G Train to watch a friend run the marathon, Daryl and Lisa ran the marathon the same year (1998) after training together, G Train runs directly from Brooklyn to Queens without going into Manhattan, Milo loved to watch and play tennis, Milo played tennis at the Prospect Park Tennis Center, then played tennis in Bay Ridge, then at the tennis program in Mccarren Park in Williamsburg, Milo played in the Williamsburg program for a number of years, G Train easiest way to get from Park Slope to Williamsburg, Milo's travel baseball career winding down at 11 or 12. 11 was a little young for Milo to be taking an unfamiliar subway himself, Milo hopped on a train before Alana did and the doors closed, Conductor refused to reopen the doors, Alana with many things running through her mind, Might not have been able to communicate with Milo, Alana got on the next G Train, Milo was waiting for Alana when she arrived at the proper stop on the train, Milo was probably thinking strategically about how best to handle the issue, Concerns of a parent with a young kid on the train, Pass the Poi's "Milo", The Idea of Machines "Sweet Lefty"

Studio C in Lisa's apartment, Rocky the cat, Thanksgiving behind us, Dave and Lisa heading back to LA, Are people in LA just like people in NYC?, Similar with different complaints, SNL the Californians, Californians talk about driving while New Yorkers talk about alternate side of the street parking, Lisa selects Baba Israel, Nothing to do with Babka, Rapper/Spoken word artist, Brooklyn Academy of Music Spoken Word Poetry Slam, Baba Israel as host, Max and Milo were shocked and amazed, Max was first being exposed to music outside our control; Milo not quite yet, Attended with other good friends, Lydia, Jeff, Alex, Ben Muchnick, Caroline Fraser, Joel Barkow, Oscar Nobel, Alex Nobel, Did the exposure have an impact on their music appreciation?, Parents expose kids to things and hope they develop their own interests, Milo may have thrown suggestions out to Baba Israel, Lisa corrects Daryl's vocabulary, Share Baba Israel content @milotimepodast, Outro music "Milo" by Joel Barkow and Pass the Poi.  

Thanksgiving is a holiday we loved as a family, Family tradition of hosting Thanksgiving in our home, every year from 2001 to 2021, Food shopping the day before Thanksgiving, With the boys the evening before Thanksgiving, Begin cooking the night before Thanksgiving, Stuffing, Cornbread, Pumpkin Pie, Turkey, Brisket, Guests included a combination of Gordon, Katie, Zach, Noah, Marc, Alicia, Scott, Jared, Daryl's parents, and Alana's parents, Thanksgiving dishes, Apple cider from the Jericho Cider Mill, Alana and I always took a moment to note how lucky we were, Thanksgiving is the headline holiday of the year, What are you doing about Thanksgiving?, Insight into our new world, Do we continue with the previous tradition? Do we start a new tradition? Do we ignore the holiday entirely? What are we trying to accomplish here? Are we trying to generate happy memories and treat Milo's absence as isolateable? Is a new tradition a betrayal of Milo? What message are we sending with our actions? Daryl's brother noting that not celebrating Thanksgiving with our family is sad for his family too, Heartbreaking for our parents to not be celebrating with their immediate family, We acknowledge we still have lots to be thankful for, We feel very aggrieved in a very particular way, We do not plan into the future, Emptiness generated by Milo's death still at the forefront, We are tremendously grateful to the community that has supported and loved us over the past year, Wishing everyone a wonderful Thanksgiving, Joel Barkow, Pass the Poi "Milo", Jared Fontaine, The Idea of Machines, Sweet Lefty, Listen to the end of Pass the Poi's Milo   

Brooklyn, West Side Highway, Brooklyn car wash, Lisa and Dave spending chunks of time in Los Angeles, No Fall activity in Los Angeles, Lisa doesn't like the cold anymore, Isabel and Max bundled up in a blizzard, Seems like there is a lot less snow now, No Halloween winter coats anymore, Mr. Miyagi, Pat Morita character (aka Arnold from Happy Days) in The Karate Kid, Murray the Cop was Al on Happy Days after Pat Morita was Arnold, The Karate Kid, Elizabeth Shue, Ralph Macchio, Big Islanders fan, William Zabka, Cobra Kai, The Karate Kid ridiculous, Lisa defends The Karate Kid, Rudy, Notre Dame football, Hoosiers, From the movie to our home, Max and Milo played lots of sports growing up, Clapping hands together, rub them, grab an injured body part and yell "Miyagi", Daniel Larusso may have lost a few fights, Mr. Miyagi fixed Daniel's leg after "sweep the leg", The Karate Kid was age appropriate and sports related, Max curious about the seeding in Daniel's final tournament, a Miyagi breaks the stress of an injury, Having a little calf in your hands, Milo particularly flexible and mushy

Brooklyn, Jets football same as it ever was, Alana and Lisa collateral Jets damage, Watching the Jets is a separate kind of bravery, Dave and I care less about the Jets now than we used to, JetsCast Inspired by Milo Time available each week during the NFL regular season, Milo's birthday November 7, The List of Things Milo Loved growing quite a bit recently, Farmer's market in our neighborhood, Migliorelli's apple cider is available there, Milo loved the apple cider, Milo always loved apple cider, Apple cider is a bit of a snack, Not that thirst quenching, Visit to the Muchnicks (Jeff, Lydia, Alex, Ben) in Lacakwaxen, Owl Court, Migliorelli farm stand on the way to Owl Court, Apple cider doughnuts too, Farmer's market next to MS 51 (5th Ave. and 4th St.), Farmer's market on the Upper West Side, Jericho Cider Mill, Daryl grew up in Jericho in Nassau County, Lisa grew up in Huntington in Suffolk county, Running across Rte. 106/107 to go to the Jericho Cider Mill, Richard Kessler is the biggest proponent of the Jericho Cider Mill, The Frapple, Lisa's dad also loves the Jericho Cider Mill and he loves Turlock melons, just like Irwin Fishberg, Alana's dad, Apple Crumb Cake also delicious, Big Cider

Welcome back, Lisa, Thanks to Lisa for putting herself out there on Milo Time, Lisa acknowledges there is no such thing as "expertise" on the subject without the experience, You can't go wrong with saying something, We're always happy to learn that people are thinking about Milo, Annual run in Milo's honor Sunday November 10, Meet at 9:00 at Milo's tree in Prospect Park, Construction of our home, Milo stomping down the stairs after waking up, Alternative to singing in bed, Beautiful noise, particularly in hindsight, Just the way Milo walked down stairs, Max much lighter on his feet and a much earlier riser, Difficult to hear Milo coming down the stairs with a cane or crutches, Any time we hear people coming down our stairs we can't help but think about Milo's block feet, Final reminder about run in Milo's honor 

Milo loved the New York Yankees, Milo Seemed like the kind of person who would be a Mets fan, Daryl's father was a Yankees fan, Even though Milo's sensibility was more Mets, he was always a Yankees fan, Milo was at the first Yankees win at the new Yankee Stadium with Alana, Max, and the Pritchard family, While Milo was treating Alana, Milo, and I would go to games at Yankee Stadium, Amazing effort by Alana and Milo, Those games were extremely memorable for all of us, My father and I were at the Bill Buckner Game and at the Aaron Boone Game, Impossible not to think about the great times and the moments lost, We were only getting started, Visit @milotimepodcast, Two of my favorite Milo and Max pictures, The second photo is so revealing of both boys, Just watched Yankees drop Game 2 to the Dodgers, Milo is missing the Yankees in the World Series, Wouldn't remember much of their World Series win in 2009, There are players Milo wouldn't know as Yankees, Jazz Chisholm, Players I can't remember if Milo knew them as Yankees, Gerrit Cole, Oswaldo Cabrera, Anthony Rizzo, Giancarlo Stanton, Aaron Judge, Carlos Rodon, Clay Holmes, A fog falling over certain memories of what Milo knew, There will come a time when the Yankees will be comprised of players unknown to Milo, Every joyous moment includes the sadness of Milo's absence, Celebrating without Milo, Root for the Yankees with Alana, Max, Milo, and me and feel Milo's absence at the same time, 1996 Yankees lost Games 1 and 2 at home to Atlanta, Lisa will be back next week, The Idea of Machines

Ridiculous for Daryl and Alana to be recording about one specific thing that Milo loved, Sometimes the little stories are emblematic of bigger things, 101st episode, Jared Fontaine guest on episode 100, Lisa Cohen has co-hosted about 90 episodes, Latest group of Milo Fellows at Brooklyn Tech High School, Run in Milo's honor Sunday November 10th at 9 a.m. sharp, Milo's 21st birthday November 7, Explaining Milo's Fund, Link to donate in the Linktree on the instagram page @milotimepodcast, Challenges going to Brooklyn Tech, January event at Brooklyn Tech with our families and Milo's classmates, friends, and teachers, Fund is heartbreaking and amazing at the same time, Growing number of Milo Fellows is evidence of Milo's world expanding; also heartbreaking and beautiful, Run in Prospect Park November 10; meet at Milo's tree in Prospect Park at 9 a.m. sharp, Meet Milo's grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., Harkening back to Jared Fontaine episode, Never so distant a relationship that we would not welcome contact, It's never the wrong time to reach out to someone who is struggling or grieving, New communities we've joined, Reconnecting with old friends even though we are different, TED Talk by Kelly Corrigan on the linktree @milotimepodcast, Article by Jancee Dunn on the linktree @milotimepodcast, The three Hs, What is a sweater? What is a sweatshirt?, What is a fleece?, What is a hoodie?, Milo and Max with different ideas about what constitutes a sweater, Earl Sweatshirt, Russell Sweatshirt, Russell Sweats section at Modell's, Milo putting on a "sweater" and giving side-eye to Alana, Milo's birthday coming at us like a train and we can't avoid it, Difficult days, Insufficient to talk about Milo on the podcast but it's what we can do, Thank you for joining us and staying with is, Listen to the Sweet Lefty lyrics

100th Episode, Openings are cold, Jared is The Idea of Machines, Jared wrote Sweet Lefty about Milo, Jared and Daryl have played soccer together for about ten years but didn't really know one another, Jared and a number of soccer friends attended Milo's service, Jared has become a good friend of mine and a good friend to Milo, Jared is grateful to have gotten to know Alana and Max, Jared kept up on Milo's treatment and has thought about him quite a bit since, Jared was moved by Milo's service, Service was packed, Jared has come to know Milo, Meaningful connections in the wake of tragedy, Jared began writing Sweet Lefty at Milo's service, Initial idea was Dr. Blozy's noting Milo's sweet lefty baseball swing, Jared completed the song in roughly one week, Song includes tributes to Milo and nods to the challenges faced by him and his loved ones, Jared was concerned about my reaction to the song, Alana, Max, and Daryl loved the song the first time we heard it, How is it that Laura (Jared's wife) and Jared come towards Alana and Daryl when others are struggling to communicate with us?, Jared is aware that this loss is always present for us and that not talking about the loss is a farce, Get in someone's face who's grieving and then being quiet, Our superheroes have emerged, Many of our superheroes have been surprises to us, There is a way to be supportive of people grieving even if we are only tangentially connected to them, There is a struggle to recognize the role you can play in anyone's life,  Not everyone grieving wants the same thing, Jared began asking questions immediately, Most of us are problem-solvers but this is not a problem that can be resolved, Jared has asked questions and listened to answers, We didn't have the basis for bullshitting at the time we became better-connected, Jared questioning whether Lisa exists, Jared was seeking to confirm the way I was thinking, Lisa has described our experience as "mysterious", The fact that I know that Jared knows how difficult all decisions are in the wake of Milo's death frees up the rest of our connection, There will be lots more for us to talk about down the road, Thank you to Jared and Laura for coming towards us and thank you for Sweet Lefty, Perfect way to close out the 100th episode of Milo Time    

Early October game in Brooklyn, Fall is a difficult time for grieving parents, PS 321, MS 51, Difficult reminders in the neighborhood, Celebrity a fun game we've played with David and Lisa, Description of Celebrity, I Think You Should Leave, The Colgate Comedy Hour, Playing Celebrity in Nantucket with the Toll-O'Flanagans, Bill, Michelle, Caity, Spencer, Robbie Toll, Bruce Toll, Mom's doing bad, Woodloch, with Alana's parents, Irwin and Terry, Duncan Reynaldo, The Cisco Kid, Alana getting upset that the boys would know the names Alana put into the hat, Boys were correct a high percentage pf time, Ask Alana about it, Mom's doing bad, Boys getting under Alana's skin

Lisa coming across the country to record this episode, Lisa chilly in 67 degree weather now, It's not the heat it's the humidity, Lisa extolling the Los Angeles weather, Car culture is too much for Lisa, Encouraging the listening audience to discourage Lisa from moving to Los Angeles on the podcast instagram page @milotimepodcast, Perfect episode to follow the Mike Lane? episode, Milo shaking his head at me with disdain "Dad's doing bad," Max could certainly list more things, Dad approaches random families/newborns to guess the age,  Lisa agrees that "Dad's doing bad," Dad checks the refrigerator is closed and the stove is off, Lisa agrees "Dad's doing bad," Dave Hillman does this too, Never once did I catch things in an improper state, Dad notes how talented Bruno Mars is, Lisa and I agree "Dad's doing bad," Kendrick Lamar definitely talented, Dad fell into the Bruno Mars trap, Bill O'Flanagan loved the "Dad's doing bad" joke, Michelle, Caity, Spencer, and Bill O'Flanagan thought it was so funny.

Lisa Cohen back on Milo Time, Lisa spending time in Los Angeles, Not planning to live in Los Angeles, Lisa very comfortable in Los Angeles, Daryl more like Woody Allen in Annie Hall in Los Angeles, Lisa enjoying the climate in Los Angeles, Is "missing the seasons" really a thing at our age?, Mike Lane is a person, Max and Milo were friendly with a pair of brothers, Ben and Zachary Everett-Lane, Nachsins and Muchnicks, Ben Everett-Lane also went to Brooklyn Tech High School, Milo was disdainful at the suggestion that "Mike Lane" was a name, Seeking input from others about which parent had which last name, Max posed the question to his great friend Jane Greeley, Of course, Milo was right that Mike's last name was Everett, Milo's disgust with me remains, Bookmark for a later episode  moment when Milo was adamant and incorrect, A very funny moment in time, Milo's look of disdain stays with me, Many would recognize that look from Milo

Lisa Cohen back next week and thereafter, Alana Fishberg, US Open, Donald Viscardi, Please join us on Milo Time, @milotimepodcast, Run in Prospect Park in Milo's honor Sunday, November 10, meet at Milo's tree at 9am sharp, Join us for brunch at our house after you finish, The Conversation at the Brooklyn Academy of Music, 4:40pm, Sunday September 15, Gene Hackman, Robert Duvall, Teri Garr, Harrison Ford, Cindy Williams, John Cazale, Cazale in five movies, all nominated for Best Picture, JetsCast Inspired by Milo Time, Mitch Epner, Please join us on the podcast, Dropping by Wednesday at midnight each week, Plymouth Gin Water, Icy cold water without ice cubes, The Plymouth Gin bottle has been with us for about 12 years, Milo and I must have filled the bottle thousands of times, Milo didn't like having fruit in the water, Milo would often rank the water at a restaurant, Park Slope Diner on 5th Avenue between 8th and 9th Street, Coco Rocco, New Bleu Cafe, Milo's indifference to food, but treating water as important (with his tongue in his cheek), What do we do with the items that were important to Milo?, Invitation to consider Milo while drinking from a repurposed bottle 

Donald Viscardi shares many things with Milo, Donald is Matt Viscardi's father, God is the square root of negative 1, Baseball team, Jonas Nachsin, Luis Fernandez, Jeff Greenberg, Milo coming to Donald's baseball team after playing travel baseball, Donald's story about the t-shirt, Donald's regret; thinks of what might have been, Milo would help coach his new baseball team, Milo as a wise soul, We are still learning about Milo, Milo able to share but not be obnoxious before, Milo and Matt went to different missile schools and high schools, Eighth grade, two groups of boys came together, Milo's flag football experience, Milo ended up as Donald's quarterback, 2017 Labor Day barbecue, Donald wants to get all the boys together on one team, Daryl as assistant coach and draft consultant, Da Nonna Rosa, Negotiating draft positions for our kids, The group of friends all brought different things to the table, Consecutive championships, Having the boys together on a team was a joy, Milo and Donald calling plays, Percy Harvin, Milo calling plays, Milo and Donald working together, Milo's nod to me when the last player touched the ball on offense, We never discussed it, Milo at the Viscardis while he was treating, Donald offering Milo a hug, Summer of 2021 (July or August), Milo loved being with his friends as he was treating, Milo liked being normal for a few minutes, Milo learning he was not going off to college as his friends did, Time with his friends was so precious, particularly in hindsight, David Bartels, Jody Brant, Math minds thinking and sounding alike, Something to the way a math brain processes things?, Rationalists also are full of feeling and good will, We want all the stories on Milo Time, from everyone, Donald visits Milo at Greenwood, All stories are welcome, no matter the connection, Donald's text about being unlucky versus things being unfair, Lisa's thoughts on the matter, Rationalist and mathematician,    

"Specialest" of guests on the podcast, Alana, 95th episode of Milo Time, Alana reluctant to appear on Milo Time, Alana unable to complete her first attempt to record an episode, Things Milo hated could be its own list, cut fruit in water, metal silverware scratching a plate, Alana and I have been to the US Open twice this year, US Open grounds as sacred grounds, Max, Alana, and I recently went to the US Open Qualifying, Alana been going for nearly 45 years, US Open always a big day for our family, Alana had Milo on her mind all day during our most recent visit, With Milo at US Open on one crutch in 2021, Sitting in accessible seating with Milo, Watching Matteo Berrettini play Ilya Ivashka from Belarus, Milo and a random guy the only two rooting for Ivashka, Same day we bumped into Emily and Scott Medintz and watched Jannik Sinner play against Gael Monfils, "You can't stand here," Last visit to the US Open with Milo was so memorable, August/September 2021, First time Milo left the house on one crutch, So concerned for Milo's safety that day, Milo was so game, probably walked a mile or two, That day extraordinarily memorable, Staff was so lovely, Accessible parking, Tremendous work to go to the US Open, Yankee games, Nets games, movies, Milo put his shoulders back and stood a little taller when he was in the world, in places he liked to be, Max inspired us to go to Yankees games and the US Open with Milo, even though Milo was fragile at the time, Produced amazing memories for us, Milo seemed and was fragile and there was some COVID concern as well, Maybe I failed to realize how out of the ordinary the world felt to Milo, Great challenge to Milo was never feeling like himself because of the medication and because of other limitations, Australian Open when Milo was in kindergarten and Max was in second grade, Such an exciting day when we went to the US Open as a family, Planning with the boys, Ben & Jery's has been replaced by Van Leeuwen, Milo loved to watch the scores on the screens in the main plaza of the US Open, Mission command, Milo loved to track all the matches at once, First year we brought Max to the US Open we watched Donald Young play a relatively unknown Novak Djokovic, Milo's first day at the US Open we watched young Gael Monfils play an unknown Grigor Dimitrov, Thinking about how lucky we were that the boys loved tennis as much as we did, Looking over at Bethany Mattek-Sands v. Paola Hercog feeling so lucky, Watching Canadian Jesse Levine play Ukrainian Alexander Dolgopolov, Got tribal, Alana, Milo and I drove to the US Open on a lark and watched nighttime qualifying matches, Watched Ernests Gulbis and Radu Albot, Some of our dearest friends bought a plaque for Milo "Crafty Brooklyn Lefthander," Right Next to Martina Navratilova, another crafty lefthander, Please take a picture of yourself at Milo's plaque, Plaque makes the US Open grounds even more important to us, Alana's love for tennis always inspired the boys, A gift from Alana to us all, A gift that will always be with us, Seems insufficient to be focused only on tennis, but still beautiful nonetheless           

Lisa in Los Angeles, Daryl flying solo in Brooklyn recording studio, Confession, Charlie Nachsin, Milo spent an extraordinary amount of time at the Nachsin house, Beautiful text from Nurse Jenni, Max started law school, Max mentioned to us how Milo's absence seems greater when he confronts bigger matters, The greater the joy the greater the sadness and loss, Billy Bob Thornton always 50% sad, No matter what we are experiencing we are impacted in a significant way, The bigger the moment the bigger the loss, Big moments will always be difficult, Velvette, PS 321 Playground, Our home, Milo's room in our house, What do we do with these places in our neighborhood?, Charlie Nachsin one of Milo's best friends, Martin Nachsin, Jonny Nachsin, Marie Nachsin, Jonas Nachsin, Max and Milo spent countless hours at the Nachsin home, Nachsin house was the place the boys went most often, Milo spent thousands of hours at the Nachsin house with the people most important to him, Milo cooking his friends at ping pong, Milo did everything at the Nachsin house, What do we do with the places Milo sat, touched? Some moved in the wake of the death of a child, Others could not move, for exactly the same reason, Milo's room looks exactly as it did the day he left the house the last time, What do we do with the room now?, Places in our neighborhood that were important to Milo are similarly difficult, Every inch on our block is meaningful, We suffer the loss every day, Milo's tree in Prospect Park, GreenWood, Reminders of Milo everywhere, Connecticut Muffin recently went out of business, Time moving on with Milo not being a part of those changes  

Brooklyn, NYC subways gripes, To Love is to be Brave TED Talk by Kelly Corrigan, Being aggressively present for a friend in need, Our superheroes are present, Superheroes are the people who do things quietly and for the right reasons, In someone's face, The difficulty of being present sometimes, Covid and Milo's treatment limited our friends' ability to be present, There's no reward for small gestures beyond having done a beautiful thing for a friend, Lisa notes the healthy selfishness of certain gestures, Arvydas Sabonis, Domantas Sabonis, Arvydas played for the Trailblazers, Domantas played for Gonzaga, the Pacers, and now for the Sacramento Kings, Milo developed deep relationships with people who helped care for him at Memorial Sloan Kettering, Sabonis was a nickname we gave to a physical therapist who helped Milo after his knee/fibula, tibia surgery AND after his lung surgery, Quiet support and help, Looked like Domantas Sabonis, Alana, Max, and I remember physical therapist named Timmy, Physical therapist in the physical therapy department at Memorial Sloan Kettering (attended Northeastern), Nurse Jenni was so important to Milo, Jenni would seek out Milo and we think Milo had a crush on her, Jenni was amazing, Milo was thrilled to have Jenni on his team, Nurse Littlepage was also wonderful with Milo, Biggest differences made by some of the least appreciated, least well-paid people, Dr. Adam Levy was a wonderful adviser at Montefiore, Dr. Julia Glade-Bender was a wonderful doctor and supprt, Timmy, Jenni, Sabonis, Nurse Littlepage, How much is a public school teacher worth in your life, Choosing to be a nurse in the pediatric department at Memorial Sloan Kettering, Incredible people only, Deeply underappreciated, undercompensated, and undervalued, What does it mean to say a person is successful?, Who are more important than nurses and teachers, This is a way to say thank you to some of those people       

Recording in Brooklyn, Alana and Lisa playing tennis, Har-tru tennis, Tennis at Prospect Park tennis, Feedback from our audience, DM'ing, E-mailing, Text from Donald Viscardi, Milo's flag football and baseball coach, Milo's favorite t-shirt, Milo and Donald shared a love for math, Beautiful text from Donald Viscardi, The difference between unfair and unlucky, Donald's note is thoughtful in so many ways, Milo as rationalist, When things fall on a bell curve we are typically in the meat of the bell curve but sometimes we are an outlier on the bell curve, Every year 1,000-2,000 people will be diagnosed with osteosarcoma, Lisa notes that unfairness connotes that fairness is part of the calculation, Shannon Doherty noted "why not me?", "Why not me?" recognizes that these tragedies are out there, No act could have changed the way things unfolded in this instance, Amazing connection between Donald and Milo that he shares with us repeatedly, We always want to hear about Milo, We always want to know that others are thinking about Milo,  Dave and Lisa getting mad to jump into the cold water in Maine, Lisa using the thought of Milo to develop the requisite rage, Lucy and Willa twins and great friends of Milo's, Live near Dr. Blozy, Lucy and Willa Meissner, Twins attended Brooklyn Tech with Milo and were also math majors, Daryl doesn't know Lucy and Willa very well, Dr. Blozy knew that Milo, Lucy, and Willa would be great friends, The father of Lucy and Willa died when they were young, Lucy and Willa would get together with Milo when he was at his most vulnerable and in his most weakened state, Lucy and Willa would pick Milo up at our house when he was significantly immobilized and sit with him somewhere near our house, Those visits with Milo were so important to Milo, Provided a lifeline to Milo, They were beautiful in spirit and were beautiful with Milo, We used to be embarrassingly, blissfully ignorant, Extraordinary how dedicated they were to Milo, particularly in light of what they went through with their father, Extraordinary generosity of spirit, When Milo was on crutches or a cane he struggled to get across the street on the Walk sign, There was great love between Milo and both of the twins, Thank you to both twins from Alana, Max, and me, Rob Delaney's recommendation to get in the faces of people who are suffering, Kelly Corrigan Ted Talk "To Love is to be Brave"

Studio B, Upper West Side, Isabel Hillman, Natural soundproofing, Anything can be a studio, Breaking from tradition, Daryl picks the Thing Milo Loved, Velvette is a coffee shop on the corner of 1st Street and 5th Avenue in Park Slope, Brooklyn, Velvette didn't mean much to us when it arrived a number of years ago, Velvette was just another coffee shop, Milo always had a taste for coffee, even when he was treating, Milo had had significant surgeries to his knee, tibia, and tibia, all of which compromised his mobility the rest of his life, Velvette became extremely important to us and to Milo. Velvette was near enough to allow Milo to access it, even when he was severely limited, We went to Velvette at least 2 or 3 days per week (or more), We would sit and have coffee and play cards, We became friendly with Kyril, the owner, and Ian, his business partner, Kyril and Ian were always very generous and caring towards Milo, Offered to take up a fund for Milo, Example of a place that was not unique, until it was, Eventually meant a lot to us, along with the people there, It was difficult for Milo to get across the street with the WALK sign, which gave us an appreciation for compromised or older people, Also an appreciation for how big an achievement small things can be, After Milo died, Kyril and Ian brought us coffee and pastries for days, Ian brought a Nets t-shirt and bourbon, Things and people become more meaningful after tragedy, We developed an amazing connection with them, What do we do with these places that became so meaningful to us and played such a big role in Milo's life at any time?, 321 Playground, What do we do with those places that Milo loved, with people who Milo, we, and Max came to love?, We make decisions as grievers every day, Divergent opinions from grieving people, Differing opinions on travel, for example, Divergent opinions on moving from the house, Please share your thoughts on the subject @milotimepodcast, Daryl to discuss the issue further, hopefully with input from our listening audience, Velvette as a segue to bigger issues, What do we do with places that our children loved and that now confront us every day, No answers but the questions are worthwhile, Visit Velvette and tell Ian and Kyril that Milo sent you

Studio B, Isabel Hillman, David and Lisa now bicoastal, Lisa is famous and elusive, Los Angeles, Bill Murray as Frequent Flyer, Gordon Lightfoot, Daryl not happy with David and Lisa spending time in Los Angeles, In Los Angeles, Daryl feels like Woody Allen in Annie Hall, Los Angeles feels foreign, Working off the list of things Milo loved, Eli Hartman recently added new things to the list, Standing invitation to all with connections to Milo to join Milo Time, Milo's love for games, music, and drafts, Milo and friends filling out brackets for anything and everything, First name/Last Name, Car trips with the boys, Traveling with the boys and beholden to radio stations to find music to listen to, Z100, Q104.3, KRock, WLIR, WBAB, Rihanna, Beyonce, Katie Perry, Ed Sheeran, Philip Phillips, Gwen Stefani, Taylor Swift, Drake, Drafting artists and compiling the number of listens for each artist, Toyota Prius GPS, Milo as scorekeeper, Debates over featured performers, Exciting as the trip was winding down, Florence + The Machine, Pop radio stations all played from the same playlists, Do radio stations even exist anymore, Sirius radio, Sirius radio very repetitive, Sirius radio algorithms, Thanks again to Isabel  

New studio in Isabel Hillman's room, Thanks to Isabel, Milo's teacher Anita, Small Paul, DM from Carlos Pena, Great athlete, Very unique, smart, and charismatic, Tragically, Carlos and his mom told me that Carlos' younger sister was killed by a drunk driver, Carlos and Max share this loss, as do Carlos' mother, Alana, and I, Carlos playing baseball in Virginia but plans to join for an episode of Milo Time, I routinely receive notes from people about episodes, We encourage people to share tales of Milo with us, if the podcast moves you to do so, Mitch Kaye did so recently, Lisa notes this situation is mysterious to "outsiders" and we want to move beyond that, This tragedy is unusual but not all that unusual, The word "mysterious" says a lot, Please reach out to me about questions, issues, memories, etc., Rain in New York City, Tanner from Bad News Bears, Tanner Robert Altman TV movie, Tanner Smith's, Tanner Scott, Songs that had words you didn't want your kids to sing when they were young, Fat Bottom Girls, Henry and Isabel, Always a parent's question to know when to expose kids to things, When to phase things into your kids' lives, J-Kwon Tipsy, Assume kids know more than we think they know, 50 Cent In Da Club, Summer vacation in the Berkshires, Citizen Cope Bullet and a Target, Bully Tanner Target, Kids would typically make fun of our music, Mocked Billy Joel, Ice Cream at Annie's in Otis Lakes, Singing Bullet and a Target out the windows going to and from ice cream, Daryl terrible at picking up lyrics, Max and Milo listening to uncensored music at a very young age, 2008 Olympics with Usain Bolt, Please let us know if you have any questions or input about any episode(s)

Lisa swimming at the JCC on the Upper West Side, JCC swimming pool as a podcast on its own, Daryl offers to be Lisa's co-host on a podcast concerning the JCC locker room, Call back to Small Paul, Milo's teacher Anita, I thought about whether to engage with Anita, I thought about whether to bring her into our new world, Anita remembered both Max and Milo, I shared the Small Paul episode with Anita, Anita didn't remember the Small Paul story, It was wonderful to see Anita and to share stories with her and wonderful to connect with her again, Beautiful to see Anita again, Bringing new people into our world, People who were part of Milo's world, We constantly must make business decisions about when to see people and how to speak with them, What do people know about us and about Milo?, A piece of Milo's life brought back to us, IBOB, Mitch, Nancy, Ernie, and Felix Kaye, Ernie and Felix and our boys were always like cousins, Scott Bartman, Jared Bartman, Zach Kessler, Noah Kessler, Max and Milo always in touch with Ernie and Felix, New Year's Eve with the Kaye family in Westchester, Call back to the Jadaveon Clowney episode, Tradition started before Max and Ernie turned one year old, Peter Green, Susan Bogatz, Jack Green, Dexter Green, Andy Colman, Ariella Colman, Eli Colman, Zoe Colman were all New Year's Eve regulars, Ernie, Felix, Max, and Milo developed the game called IBOB, Game was throwing a ball wide to generate a great diving catch with feet inbounds, Much argument and dispute about whether someone was inbounds, IBOB in Florida, IBOB to Ample Hills, Touch/Catch, Diving catch, IBOB was the first version of all these games, Milo loved to make a game out of something silly, Thank you Henry Hillman, Idea of Machines, Sweet Lefty

Upper West Side of Manhattan, Henry Hillman, Feedback for Alana and me concerning Milo's name in public, Constant challenge is common conceptions of what grief looks like and how it evolves, Tremendous variation in how people grieve, Stages of grief or scientific formula for grief is very upsetting, as no such formula exists, Different reactions from different people in our community, For some hearing a child's name is lovely, while for others it sounds awful, Karen Goodman, so smart and thoughtful, provides her daughter Ashley's name,  Donna Dunkelman, also so smart and thoughtful, feels that providing her son's name would be horrifying, The idea of a formula is concocted to make people feel "better", but is really more of a wish, Matters evolve but our DNA has been reordered and we will never be the same, Matters will evolve unpredictably, Alana and I are aligned, Our brains want answers (like with The Sopranos), I will be different in three years, but I'll never be the same person I was, The pain will not be "solved" or mitigated, Everyone's experience is different, Tyson Chandler, 2016 or 2017 Christmas break vacation in Phoenix, Pat, Julie, Hannah, and James, Nantucket and Phoenix, Phoenix Suns basketball game against the Memphis Grizzlies, Very bad Phoenix Suns team, Devin Booker was on the team, So many of us at the game were big sports fans, but there was a play at the end of the game that was surprising to us, Suns down 1 and inbounded to Tyson Chandler for an alley-oop, Goran Dragic or Devin Booker may have inbounded, Inbounds pass was in the cylinder when caught, We did not now whether the basket should count, We learned a new rule, Suns ran a similar play against the LA Clippers in the playoffs a few years later, Deandre Ayton scored that time, Milo loved the game and the puzzle, We all learned something