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The Measure Podcast brings you insights from across the social sector to advance racial equity and systems change. Produced by Equal Measure (https://www.equalmeasure.org).

Equal Measure


    • Mar 31, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 20m AVG DURATION
    • 15 EPISODES


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    Katya Fels Smyth

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2025 22:26 Transcription Available


    Katya Fels Smyth, founder and CEO of Full Frame Initiative, talks about well-being justice, the importance of shifting power in systems change, and the organization's closing after more than 15 years.

    Jeff Fuhrer

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2024 22:16 Transcription Available


    Jeff Fuhrer breaks down false narratives about the U.S. economy—and how to change them to create more opportunity for all. He is the author of The Myth That Made Us: How False Beliefs about Racism and Meritocracy Broke Our Economy (and How to Fix It).Jeff's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262552851/the-myth-that-made-us/Jeff's recent article for the Brookings Institution, "The cost of being poor is rising. And it's worse for poor families of color": https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-cost-of-being-poor-is-rising-and-its-worse-for-poor-families-of-color/

    Marcus Walton

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2024 19:06 Transcription Available


    Marcus Walton, president and CEO of GEO, sits down with Equal Measure's Leon T. Andrews, Jr., to speak about the importance of culture and community in shifting philanthropic grantmaking.

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    Temi F. Bennett and Hanh Le

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2024 20:40 Transcription Available


    Temi F. Bennett and Hanh Le from iF, A Foundation for Radical Possibility, talk about racial equity versus racial justice and disrupting norms in the philanthroptic sector.

    Crystal Hayling

    Play Episode Play 31 sec Highlight Listen Later Jun 18, 2024 20:12


    Crystal Hayling, former executive director of the Libra Foundation, discusses her family's roots in civil rights, the link between activism and democracy, and building intersectional movements for change. Learn more on The Measure.

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    Amanda M. Navarro

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2024 18:37 Transcription Available


    Discover the power of hope and resilience in the pursuit of social justice with Amanda M. Navarro, executive director of Convergence Partnership. In our latest episode of The Measure, Amanda shares insights on scaling deep for transformative impact and how the partnership's strategic shift to centering racial justice is empowering grassroots movements.

    adrienne maree brown

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2024 18:03 Transcription Available


    adrienne maree brown grows healing ideas in public. Through her writing, music, and podcasts, adrienne has nurtured Emergent Strategy, Pleasure Activism, Radical Imagination and Transformative Justice as ideas and practices for transformation. Her work is informed by 25 years of social and environmental justice facilitation in support of Black liberation, her love of Octavia E. Butler and visionary fiction, and her work as a doula. She is the author and editor of several published texts.

    Dr. Lisa Fitzpatrick

    Play Episode Play 59 sec Highlight Listen Later Feb 28, 2024 20:55 Transcription Available


    Lisa Fitzpatrick, MD, MPH, MPA, is a board-certified infectious diseases physician and a medical epidemiologist. She began her public health career in 1998 as a member of the CDC's elite Epidemic Intelligence Service. She has served as a foreign diplomat in the Caribbean, an academic researcher, and the former chief medical officer for the DC Medicaid program. Dr. Fitzpatrick is a member of the Institute of Medicine/National Academy of Sciences Roundtable on Health Literacy and an Aspen Institute Health Innovator Fellow. She is the founder and CEO of Grapevine Health.

    Chantel Rush Tebbe

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2024 20:30


    In this episode of The Measure, Chantel Rush Tebbe, Managing Director of the American Cities Program at the Kresge Foundation, shares insights on navigating power dynamics, the importance of community-driven solutions, and her personal journey shaped by familial experiences, illustrating the complex interplay between place, race, and systems change.

    Gerri Spilka

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2023 20:58 Transcription Available


    On today's episode of The Measure, we learn from Gerri Spilka, Equal Measure's founding director and past president. As we celebrate 40 years as an organization, Gerri takes us to the beginnings of the organization and a nascent evaluation field. 

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    Clarence Anthony

    Play Episode Play 45 sec Highlight Listen Later Oct 26, 2023 22:02 Transcription Available


    Learn more about Clarence E. Anthony, CEO and Executive Director of the National League of Cities (NLC), and how America's cities, towns, and villages continue to build toward equity-driven change.

    Chike Aguh

    Play Episode Play 44 sec Highlight Listen Later Aug 29, 2023 23:58 Transcription Available


    In episode 4 of The Measure, we hear from Chike Aguh, former Chief Innovation Officer at the U.S. Department of Labor, about the future of jobs and how to create a more inclusive workforce.

    Erica Atwood

    Play Episode Play 58 sec Highlight Listen Later Jul 11, 2023 15:47 Transcription Available


    Leon T. Andrews, Jr., president and CEO of Equal Measure, sits down with Erica Atwood from the City of Philadelphia's Office of Policy and Strategic Initiatives for Criminal Justice and Public Safety. They talk about reducing gun violence in Philadelphia, the city's anti-violence Community Expansion Grant pilot program, and the necessity of Black joy.

    Jara Dean-Coffey and Marcia Coné

    Play Episode Play 49 sec Highlight Listen Later Jun 6, 2023 24:52 Transcription Available


    In the second episode The Measure, Leon T. Andrews, Jr. sits down with Jara Dean-Coffey and Marcia Coné of the Equitable Evaluation Initiative. They discuss the origins of the Equitable Evaluation Framework™, the importance of context in philanthropic work, and the necessary evolution of evaluation and philanthropy in the United States.

    Angela Glover Blackwell

    Play Episode Play 28 sec Highlight Listen Later Dec 17, 2022 20:51 Transcription Available


    Angela Glover Blackwell shares her background of growing up in segregated St. Louis, Missouri; the concept of transformative solidarity; and the importance of understanding history to move forward with social change. Welcome to the first episode of The Measure.

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