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Some of the most famous clobber passages are found in Paul's letters. The passages have been used to demonise and push many LGBTQ+ people out of church and society. Yet are we reading these passages correctly or have we been lazy with our reading and interpretation? In this episode Alicia takes us through some fo these passages and the original language they were written in. We take a look at what Paul is actually talking about and the words he uses. Words that upon closer inspection, may not actually line up with how we have come to interpret and understand these clobber passages. The Kickstarter campaign for Alicia's book The Bible and LGBTQ Adventists is live now. Please support this awesome project via the following link: http://kck.st/3zCOror You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

There are two passages in the Old Testament that people often point to as examples of the Bible calling out homosexuality as sin. The first being the story of Sodom and the second being a law in Leviticus chapter 18. But was Sodom really a city full of homosexuals? What is the law in Leviticus referring to? In this episode Dan and Jo as they continue their discussion with Pastor Alicia Johnston and delve into the story of Sodom, the law in Leviticus and a surprising connection to another very famous story in the Bible. Join them as they start in Leviticus and connect the dots from Leviticus, through to Sodom and all the way back to the days of Noah. The Kickstarter campaign for Alicia's book The Bible and LGBTQ Adventists is live now. Please support this awesome project via the following link: http://kck.st/3zCOror You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

The Bible is a collection of books written by different authors from different centuries, cultures and even languages. So how do we find the answers to the questions we seek around the Bible and LGBTQ+ affirming Theology. Whether you are a LGBTQ+ Christian, a concerned parent or a friend looking for answers, this is a question we all face when we approach the Bible. As special guest Pastor Alicia Johnston takes us further into the Bible and LGBTQ+ affirming theology, we reflect on the importance of context and understanding the Who, Why and When of scripture. When we take Bible verses out of context, we end up making the Bible say things it was never meant to. Alicia states that "Part of our calling as Adventist Christians is to seek out the truth that God has revealed in scripture. That's our heritage. That's our history. And that's still our responsibility." Join Dan and Jo as they continue their conversation with Alicia and begin their journey into the some of the most challenging questions in the Bible. The Kickstarter campaign for Alicia's book The Bible and LGBTQ Adventists is live now. Please support this awesome project via the following link: http://kck.st/3zCOror You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Alicia's book, The Bible and LGBTQ Adventists makes a huge claim; "Full affirmation of same-sex marriage and transgender identity is the most biblical approach. It's not biblical to oppose same-sex marriage or transgender identity. Though well-intentioned, the institutional church has gotten this question completely wrong." In this episode Dan and Jo directly address this claim. Together with Alicia, they explore the beginning of the bible and what it says about gender diversity and non heterosexual relationships. Join us as we explore the non-binary nature of creation. The Kickstarter campaign for Alicia's book The Bible and LGBTQ Adventists is live now. Please support this awesome project via the following link: http://kck.st/3zCOror References below for the two Ellen White Quotes: E.G. White, Counsels to Writers and Editors, (Nashville, TN: Southern Publishing Assn., 1946) p. 38. E.G. White, The Signs of the Times April 25, 1906, paragraph 3. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

If I were to ask you if you are created in the image of God, what would your answer be? The truth that we are created in the image of God is the most basic and fundamental truth about ourselves and our value. Join Jo and Dan as they continue their series with Alicia Johnston as we begin our journey into a beautiful theological conversation around being LGBTQ and Christian. Beginning with what it means to be created in the image of God, the next few episodes in this series will focus on some key biblical arguments and themes that often have been used to marginalise and demonise LGBTQ+ people in the church. There are beautiful gems to behold as we look back into the bible and learn more about God and us. The Kickstarter campaign for Alicia's book The Bible and LGBTQ Adventists starts June 18. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Reflecting on the Pulse shooting hit hard and hit home for Alicia. Join Dan and Jo as they listen in on Alicia's story of moving from the margins of the LGBTQ+ community to the margins of the Adventist community. Where do we draw the line between those communities, and why? How long will it take for the church to realise these two communities are far more intertwined than they think? What happens when we really start to look deeper into theology and explore why the church has left a community on the margins? You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Alicia Johnston was a pastor in the Seventh-day Adventist church until the Pulse tragedy made her pause and reflect on how the Christian church was treating LGBTQI+ people. It also started her on a journey that would lead her to come out as both bi and LGBTQ affirming.  Join us as we kick off Pride Month reflecting on Alicias story, her calling to ministry and the beauty of an identity birthed in Jesus. She also has recently finished a book called The Bible and LGBTQ Adventists. According to SDAKinship, "Her hope is that this book can empower LGBTQ Adventists to accept themselves with full confidence, and provide their family and friends with a framework for acceptance within the theological language of the Adventist church." This is a book for every LGBTQ Adventist, their churches, families and friends. The Kick Starter campaign starts on June 18, 2021.  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

For a long time now conservative Christians have demonised and warned of the danger of the “gay lifestyle”. But what is this gay lifestyle that straight conservatives seem to know so much about? Does it even exist? And if there are issues with the lifestyle that some choose to lead, what pushed them into that lifestyle in the first place? Does the church have a role to play in all of this? Dan and Jo explore what this perceived gay lifestyle looks like before discussing how the church may actually influence people's lifestyle choices. Listen in on the conversation as they reflect on what the church community may have done to push people into a life they are so concerned with. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Stories can move people - move people to tears, bring them joy or remind them of another time. Story is such a powerful medium to share with people and one that seems to be a universal language. Dan and Jo discuss the importance of story in educating and bringing the divide that can be found in many churches. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

What is it about pride that seems to get Christians worked up? Is pride such a bad thing? Is there a form of pride that is good, and healthy? Join Dan and Jo as they explore the idea of pride and what it means to them. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

While Daniel and Jo have been quite public with their relationship, marriage and faith, this hasn't always been the case. Like most LGBTQI+ people, their journey to where they are today has been marked by an ongoing battle against shame. Not because they believe they are wrong to love someone of the same sex, but rather because this is the scar that they carry because of the experience of growing up gay in a straight world. Join Daniel and Jo as they reflect on their journey with shame and how even today they continue to battle to ensure that it does not win. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

In their final episode with guest Andre Afamasaga, Daniel and Jo discuss the power that comes with being unashamedly authentic. Recorded in the latter part of 2020, Andre reflects on the first time he introduced himself as a gay christian Samoan man and the power that those words gave him. Being gay and christian has opened a whole new world however being a minority within a minority group has also come with its set of unique challenges. How does one own their truth in the spaces that they occupy? Andre, Dan and Jo also reflect on how visible the LGBTQI+ community has become and particularly in the Christian and Seventh Day Adventist communities. In the midst of these conservative spaces, LGBTQI+ christians are making inroads and are being visibly and authentically, Unashamed. The views expressed in this episode are those of the individuals and do not represent the views of their employers or associated parties. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

In this episode we join Dan and Jo as they continue their conversation with Andre Afamasaga. There is something about Jesus that makes Him so attractive to people like Dan, Jo and Andre. There's something about the story of an outcast from Nazareth that speaks to their own stories and experiences as Gay Adventist Christians. Yet the Jesus we see in the bible is not always who is always portrayed by people who claim to be christians. Culture and politics have over time changed what it means to be a Jesus follower. From a God who includes the outcasts, He is now often portrayed as a God who is obsessed with what people wear or who they love for example. Join us as we peel back the veil of culture, time, and tradition to look boldly at the one who loved us first. Join us as we look at the Jesus that so many LGBTQI+ christians relate to and call their personal friend. This is my Jesus. The views expressed in this episode are those of the individuals and do not represent the views of their employers or associated parties. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Through years of wrestling with his sexuality , including about 15 years of conversion therapy, Andre comes to a realisation; The grace and acceptance of Jesus that he would share with others as a pastor, was available to him too. Join Dan and Jo as they continue the conversation with Andre and discover more about his journey to self acceptance as a gay christian islander. Dealing with the societal stigma of homosexuality is hard enough, however it becomes even more damaging and dangerous when it gets conflated with culture and religion. By being unashamedly visible, they hope that their stories inspires honest conversations in churches about the prejudiced and damaging beliefs that are often used against LGBTQ+ people who are seeking a safe space to practice their faith. Trigger warning: This episode discusses conversion therapy and related practices The views expressed in this episode are those of the individuals and do not represent the views of their employers or associated parties. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Join Dan and Jo as they introduce you to Andre - a former pastor who came out publicly via an article in the Sydney Morning Herald during the aftermath of the Israel Folau saga. The article went viral and went on to be shared and published internationally. As someone who was a minister for the Seventh-day Adventist Church, Andre has had quite a journey with accepting his sexuality and what this has meant for his position as a pastor. Since transitioning from the pulpit to now working for the human rights commission, Andre has been a light and a respected voice for the LGBTQI+ community and we are so blessed to be able to share some of his story with you. The views expressed in this episode are those of the individuals and do not represent the views of their employers or associated parties. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

The Seventh Day Adventist church is one step away from being the most progressive christian denomination. This is a bold statement considering the church currently does not officially ordain women in some parts of the world and still believes that homosexuality is a sin. In this episode Daniel and Jo react to a statement published by the South Pacific Division of Seventh Day Adventists regarding the recent Conversion Therapy Ban that was enacted in the state of Victoria, Australia. Is the Christian church changing and shifting to a more progressive perspective? Is the church moving to a more compassionate position on social justice matters? Or is the church no longer living up to its mission and thus we are seeing God using secular governments as His agents of change in order to protect the vulnerable? You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

As discussions continue amongst politicians, Jo and Dan share their thoughts on Victoria's proposed bill to ban conversion and suppression practices in the state. Many religious groups believe this bill will encroach on their freedom of religion and ability to practice their faith, and many are spreading this message on social media, but is that really the case? Is that really what the bill is about? Dan and Jo discuss the impact of conversion therapy and practices on the LGBTQiA+ community and whether or not the church should be concerned for its own perceived persecution, or if it should support this bill. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Dan and Jo are back with Season 3 of Enough Room!! In their first episode they recap some exciting developments in the first month of 2020 including a Drag Queen who came out very publicly as a Seventh Day Adventist Christian on RuPauls Drag Race Season 13. There is definitely a lot of work to be done in the Christian church when it comes to affirming LGBTQ+ christians. However there is still a question to be asked about how we have reached a point where a Drag Queen can be so open and bold about their Christian faith. Not only boldly claiming to be a christian but also identifying as a Seventh Day Adventist Christian at that. Has there been a shift in the church? How has this happened? Join Dan and Jo as they revisit the story of Jesus and the woman at the well. The beginning of what they believe is a long history of Jesus followers breaking down barriers and boldly proclaiming their relationship with the loving Christ. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Christmas is that time of the year when we often take time to take stock of the experiences of the year that's been. iIt is also a time when families are reunited and relationships are celebrated. In this episode, Dan and Jo review what this year has been like for Enough Room and the community it has built across the world. They also take the time to acknowledge that for many in the LGBTQI+ community, Christmas is also a reminder of the relationships that we have lost while at the same time an opportunity to celebrate the families we have since built. Join Dan and Jo on their final episode of 2020. You don't want to miss this.. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

In this episode, Dan and Jo discuss some of the experiences of the past year and how they have seen the love of the church grow cold. While it can be hurtful to be left out and ignored because of who you are, it can also teach you a lot about who your true friends are. Join Dan and Jo as they explore a new way of understanding Jesus words regarding the end times and how the church may have more to be concerned with than it thought. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

In our final Episode with Daniel and Nigel, we get to hear them reflect on day to day life as a gay couple. Not only have they learnt to live together as openly as gay men, they have also created a beautiful family that includes Nigels son. Join us as we hear about the challenges, joys and love that they have found and why they wouldn't want to change it for anything. Their story of resilience in the face of persecution by the church and the love they have found in each other is truly Something Beautiful. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

How do you cope with the feeling that you are being torn apart? That you can't be who you feel you were meant to be? How do you react when your secrets are exposed for others to see and you're left to fend for yourself? Or when you're being told that the love you have finally found is wrong? Join Dan and Jo as they explore the experience of Daniel being forced out of the closet, and Nigel coming to terms with what led him into a marriage that was never meant to be. Does the church really know what it's asking from us? Do they truly understand how much they are tearing us apart? You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

“The less we know someone, the more we assume about them“. - Joey Oh In this episode Dan and Jo return with guests Daniel and Nigel and explore the assumptions people often make about LGBTQ+ people in the church. Somehow the reaction of the church when someone comes out isn't always a healthy one. How do we start to understand each other? You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Imagine walking into the home you grew up in, the only home you've ever known, and feeling as if you are no longer wanted. Your family treats and speaks to you differently, and you are no longer invited to be involved in the activities that you used to enjoy with the family. The experience of being disowned by your church is one that, unfortunately, many people go through. Sometimes it may not be overt, but it usually is clear enough that many leave the church and never return. Join us as we listen to Nigel and Daniel as they share their experience with the church after coming out. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Imagine being outed while Pastoring a church and navigating the murky waters of divorce and custody battles. In this episode we introduce Nigel and Daniel, a christian couple who recently found themselves confronted with their sexuality. Join us over the next few episodes as we listen to Nigel and Daniel share their story with us. Their story is one of loss, pain, heartache and love. A story of hope when it appears that the world is falling apart. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

What is your advice to someone struggling with their identity? This is the last question Dan and Jo ask Pastor Paul-Anthony in their final episode with him. However, before coming to this question, join Dan and Jo as they listen to Paul- Anthony share the experience of being a black queer christian in the South. They also discuss the relevance of social justice within christianity and whether there is a place for it. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

In the third episode with Paul-Anthony, Dan and Jo continue the conversation around coming out as a gay pastor the challenges this brought with it. They discuss what it means to be gay and Christian and the misconceptions the church has with gay culture. Paul-Anthony's story of navigating his sexuality and his call to ministry within the church is definitely one that will inspire and encourage. It is a reminder that no matter what life throws our way, God is in control and is working out great things for you. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Dan and Jo continue the conversation with Paul-Anthony and explore more of his coming out story and how that has impacted his faith. They also discuss Side A and side B approaches to sexuality and which side is Biblical. Join Dan and Jo as they find out a little more about how Paul-Anthony came to terms with his identity and established his own faith. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

In this episode, Dan and Jo introduce us to Paul-Anthony, a gay Adventist Christian Pastor. As the first in a series of episodes featuring Paul-Anthony, they hope to establish an idea of who he is and what has helped shape the man he is today. Join Dan and Jo as they find out a little more about what brought Paul-Anthony into a relationship with God and what has kept him in the Church through all these years. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Welcome to Season 2! In their first episode of season 2, Dan and Jo explore the story of the Syrophonecian woman. This is a story brimming with prejudiced, sexist and racist undertones and gives us a glimpse into the world during Jesus time. It is a world that is not too dissimilar to our own time and the issues we are facing in 2020. So join Dan and Jo as they look into what Jesus was trying to teach His disciples - and us - through this story. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

2020, what has happened? A lot! In this episode Dan and Jo discuss life since launching Enough Room and the beginning of this year. They discuss the realities of mental health and the toll this year has taken, as well as some of the many plans that have gone by the wayside, this is not such a positive discussion - yet one that is still important. Fortunately there is much to look forward to and there are certainly positives to draw from the year as well, so listen in to find out a little more of what has happened and what's still to come. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

This week Dan and Jo are joined again by Catalina from the Connected Adventist Podcast. At the end of last week's episode they confronted the elephant in the room; their differing convictions on the subject of sexuality. They now take the time to reflect on how they can agree to disagree and yet be able to grow together and bless each other. In a world that has become so polarised, how do we build bridges? How do we connect with people who believe and live differently to us? Can we find common ground? You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Earlier in the year Dan and Jo were asked to do an interview for the Connected Adventist podcast with Catalina. Dan and Jo appreciated her warmness and way of approaching people who she disagrees with, so wanted to get to know a little more about who Catalina is, and share that with you. Catalina shares her journey into faith and learning how to best share that with others while understanding the significance of people through it all - seeing them as the priority, no matter what they may believe. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Love the sinner, hate the sin. Such simple words, yet so full of hurt and pain. While they may be true on the surface, they carry so much more than their face value. Join Dan and Jo as they look at the final part of the message they received on social media, and discuss the real impact of what many well-meaning Christians believe is an appropriate way to deal with 'sinners'. Is this so called 'loving' appeal truly loving? You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

For many Christians, the fear of being deceived is real and can be very damaging. Whether it be getting to know new people, watching a new show, contemporary worship music or trying to interpret scripture, this fear often does more harm than good. Join Dan and Jo in this episode as they continue their response to the message they received on Facebook while reflecting on their experience as an interracial gay Adventist Christian couple and the fear of deception. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Earlier this year Dan proposed to Jo. While this was an exciting and beautiful occasion for them, they have faced questions about the legitimacy of their love, how it compares to a straight couple and if it opens the doors to something more sinister. Join Dan and Jo in this episode as they continue their response to the message they received on Facebook. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Being an engaged same sex christian couple has brought a unique set off challenges for Dan and Jo. Not only are they trying to plan a fabulous event but they also want acknowledge their faith tradition and the part that God has played in their relationship. In this episode they revisit the very first marriage and discuss the beautiful principles that can be found there. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Following on from their previous episode; engaged gay christians Dan and Jo dive further into the challenge of reconciling their orientation with their faith and the Bible. In this episode they look at: How do we interpret the Bible? Why has the church's stance on problematic texts around women and salvery shifted in recent decades? What is overarching theme of the Bible? What is the relationship between Justice, Jesus, the Bible and Grace? You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

In this week's episode, Daniel and Jo come face to face with the clobber passages found in the Bible. How do they reconcile their sexuality with what has traditionally been interpreted as very clear references to same sex activity? Over the years, Daniel and Jo have revisited these passages over and over again and now they share what the Holy Spirit has led them to in this episode The 6 passages are summarised below: 1. Genesis 19:1-38 - Sodom & Gomorrah 2. Leviticus 18:22; 20:13 - Levitical Laws 3. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 - Pederasty in Corinth 4. 1 Timothy 1:9-10 - Pederasty in Ephesus  5. Jude 6-7 -Strange Flesh 6. Romans 1:25-27 - Cult Prostitution Recommend resources:  Torn - Justin Lee https://geekyjustin.com/torn/ Two Views On Homosexuality, The Bible, And The Church - Justin Sprinkle https://www.harpercollins.com.au/9780310528630/two-views-on-homosexuality-the-bible-and-the-church/ A place at His Table - Joel Hollier https://wipfandstock.com/a-place-at-his-table.html Seventh Gay Adventists / Enough Room at the Table / Outspoken  http://www.watchfirefilms.com You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Dan and Jo continue to work through a message they received earlier in the year. This week they explore the topic of love, and what they believe it means to love Jesus. As they work through the questions raised in the message, they look at How Jesus loved What it looks like to love Jesus What is the law How does the law play out in our lives They hope to leave you with the understanding of a loving God, with a law of love, who calls us to love others. You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

In this episode we begin sharing our story by responding to a message we received on Facebook. We will: Explore the experience of growing up gay in the church. Identify what it actually means to struggle with our sexuality. Discuss the impact of discrimination on mental health and self worth. The significance of role models and visibility in church and society. Discuss gay pride. Affirm our identity in Christ. What marvelous love the Father has extended to us! Just look at it—we're called children of God! That's who we really are. 1 John 3:1 You can connect with Dan and Jo through any of their social accounts below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

In this episode we : Give an introduction to Dan and Jo Look at what it means to engage with people - even we are doing it imperfectly Look at the example of Jesus and how he went out of His way to invite the outsiders of His day. We might not be your average Adventist Christians but we invite you to join us in this space. Bring your questions. Bring your stories. Bring your post COVID19 to do list  :) There is Enough Room to know, to love and to be. Episodes will be dropping weekly. Subscribe and follow us on Instagram and Facebook to keep up to date and to submit your questions and feedback. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enough.room/ (@enough.room) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/enoughroompodcast (@Enoughroompodact) Twitter: https://twitter.com/enoughroomhere (@EnoughRoomhere) or via their website: https://enoughroom.captivate.fm/ (enoughroom.captivate.fm) or email: enough.room@4hg.com.au

Welcome to Enough Room. We are Dan and Jo. We are an interracial gay Christian couple based in Sydney Australia. In amongst holding down full time jobs, catching up with people and planning a wedding in 2020, we have managed to record a podcast. While the story of an Interracial gay Adventist couple might not be unique, it is one of the many diverse stories and lived experiences that can be found in the family of God. We'd love for you to join us for about 20 to 30 minutes per week as we journey together and navigate our way through some important topics, conversations and life. Subscribe and follow us on Instagram and Facebook to be notified when our first episode drops. There is Enough Room here to know, to love, and to be.