Roses and Thorns

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Let's face it - The Bachelor and The Bachelorette are addictive, you just can't get enough! If you need more Bachelor in your life, then listen as we recap the best (and the worst) moments on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette.

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    • Feb 19, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
    • weekly NEW EPISODES
    • 1h 21m AVG DURATION
    • 160 EPISODES


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    Clayton: Week 6 - Hiatus?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2022 48:29


    Our "short" episode is still 50 minutes. You're welcome. We're planning to take a hiatus due to time restrictions. We're hoping to be back later, but we'll have to just wait and see what the future holds!

    Clayton: Week 5 - Sexy Ice-Cream Roleplay

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2022 62:04


    Not only did the previous week not end of a rose ceremony, they didn't even finish all the dates last week! And they didn't even show us who got the group date rose! Are they trying to make us lose our minds?

    Clayton: Week 4 - The Music Presentation

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2022 75:41


    Why are we still talking about shrimp? Does it matter if Elizabeth was in the hot tub? Is Clayton actually a gold retriever that morphed into a human? Seriously, who was that family? Did anyone consider flag football instead? When will Serene get her date? Why don't more cities utilize the space next to their rivers? All this and more on this week's episode!

    Clayton: Week 3 - Clayton is the Death Star

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2022 105:24


    Questions that we have after this episode: - What exactly did Cassidy think Clayton was going to talk to her about? - What is Shanae's endgame? - Why were there so few shrimp in the first place? - WHAT IS SHANAE'S ENDGAME??

    Week 2: Clayton - Awkward Old Children

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2022 97:01


    Two villains emerge this week, but one definitely sucks worse than the other.

    Clayton: Week 1 - Moon Shoes

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2022 68:52


    Was this the most dramatic night one ever? Probably not, but it did keep me on my toes.

    Clayton Echard: Cast Bios

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2021 121:07


    Join our Bachelor league for Clayton's season! https://app.bachbracket.com/league/512   The new season begins Monday, January 3.

    Michelle: Shhhh! Finale & After The Final Rose

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2021 99:52


    Welcome to this special quiet edition of Roses and Thorns. Listen as we attempt to record an episode without waking up my 3 year old niece who was sleeping upstairs. Were we successful? Listen and find out!

    Michelle: Week 8 - WHAT!

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2021 60:06


    Ok, we did NOT see this ending coming! We're still reeling from watching what we were sure was going to be the next great Bachelor Nation romance just shatter before our very eyes.

    Michelle: Men Tell All

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2021 81:56


    It's the moment no one has been waiting for, the Men Tell All! It's chock full of gimmicks and little to no accountability!

    Michelle: Week 7 - Hometowns

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2021 68:52


    Honestly, this was just a lovely hometowns week. 

    Michelle: Week 6 - Kids Voices Are Never Romantic

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2021 75:58


    In this episode, Ryan and Kelly struggle to remember what happened last Tuesday on The Bachelorette despite their several pages of notes.

    Michelle: Week 5 - The S is for Psychopath

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2021 89:34


    This episode is brought to you by the letter S.

    Michelle: Week 4 - Fkn Alaska

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2021 85:14


    Sometimes it feels like the hardest part of making this podcast is coming up with titles and descriptions.

    Michelle: Week 3 - Fancy Boy Muscles

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2021 78:34


    There were so many things in this episode that we did not see coming. When did Brandon start looking grown-up? When did we start liking Martin? Why did Jamie REFERENCE THE AUDIENCE?! So many questions.

    Michelle: Week 2 - Spaceman

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2021 88:46


    Today's episode brought to you by canned margarita!

    Michelle: Week 1 - Silver Food Dome Thingy

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2021 60:47


    It's Michelle's night one, and she is stunning. The budget is clearly higher for this season of The Bachelorette than it was for the last two seasons, but the large staircase makes for some awkward quiet moments. To get ahead of ourselves on this, CORRECTION CORNER: Ryan was not the host of a Bachelor Live on Stage but what THE BACHELOR for a Bachelor Live on Stage!! Join our fantasy bracket: https://bachelorette.bachbracket.com/leagues/168608

    Michelle Cast Bios

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2021 79:20


    We're baaaaaaack!!! And we're a little out of practice, but we're nonetheless excited to recap Michelle's journey on the upcoming season of The Bachelorette (premieres Tuesday, October 19).   Join our Bach Bracket league! Guess who's going to get roses each week at https://bachelorette.bachbracket.com/leagues/168608

    Katie - Season Recap

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2021 97:28


    Since we didn't recap this season week-by-week, we decided to do the whole season all at once! We give our overall impressions of the season, as well as discussing the big moments (that we remember).

    Katie's Cast Bios!

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2021 101:17


    We unfortunately won't be able to recap Katie's season, but we did go through the cast bios for the men on her season! There are an alarming number of people describing what kind of lover they are...

    Matt: After The Final Rose

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2021 61:29


    Ok, how is our recap of this episode longer than our finale recap?

    Matt: Week 10 - Patty & Matty

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2021 53:54


    It's finally the finale! After weeks of torture and nonsense, we've reached the finish line (sort of).

    Matt: Week 9 - Fantasy Suites Butter Surplus

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2021 77:31


    It's Fantasy Suites, which means there's only one week left! We've almost made it!

    Matt James: Women Tell All

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2021 93:57


    Honestly, I didn't hate this Tell All. There was very little yelling or arguing and also very little Chris Harrison. 

    Matt: Week 8 - A Head on Her Shoulders

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2021 73:27


    Would you believe it if I told you that it's hometowns week already??

    Matt: Week 7 - Tiny Tiny Strong Strong

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2021 91:34


    It's the week before hometowns, and no one is playing around. Over the course of this episode, we go from 11 women to just 4, and there were some eliminations that we really did not see coming.

    Accountability in Bachelor Nation

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2021 108:17


    There's a lot of calls for accountability in Bachelor Nation right now, from Chris Harrison, to Rachael Kirkconnell, to previous cast on the Bachelor. If you're not sure what it's all about, have a listen! We try to break it down to explain the what and the why.   If you would like to have a conversation about anything we discuss in this episode, please reach out to us! @rosesnthornspod

    Matt: Week 6 - Our Friend Twitter

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2021 108:09


    With very little news to discuss, we get pretty quickly to business. We have a fairly in-depth discussion about what we saw with Serena C and Katie, as well as the conversations that others are having about this drama. Is Serena C a mean girl? A bully? Or just someone venting?   Reminder: We're flawed human beings, and we're always open to other perspectives! If you feel that we've said something problematic, we would love to have a conversation with you about it! Please reach out to us on Twitter or Insagram @rosesnthornspod

    Matt: Week 5 - There's a Different Outfit for Manure

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2021 135:40


    These recap episodes just keep getting longer and longer... Sorry?

    Matt: Week 4 - Literally Everyone is Upset

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2021 138:39


    The house is basically just a bunch of mean girls now. Everyone sucks, and everyone's upset. Except Michelle. She's perfect, and all we want is for her to live happily ever after with Matt. Heads up, this is a long episode. If you want to skip the news section, jump ahead to about 40 minutes.

    Matt: Week 3 - On this episode of House Hunters...

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2021 91:47


    Kelly gets progressively more annoyed with Sarah throughout the recording of this episode (whether fair or not, idk). But really, no one's the hero, no one's the villain. 

    Matt: Week 2 - Newsers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2021 115:25


    Look. I don't know what was going on with our brains tonight, but we were *struggling* with words and sentences. I'm gonna guess some mix of pandemic + insurrection has fogged up our minds, but hey, we made it through... It just took 2 hours to do so. Anyway, now that we've talked this episode up, listen in!

    Matt: Week 1 - All the Leather Pants

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2021 103:39


    Welcome to Matt James' season, y'all! We talk about our new lead, the few intros we get for the women, all of the limo arrivals, the vibrator, the controversial prayer, Matt's one-on-one time with the ladies, drama brewing, and our best attempt to discuss disabilities as two able-bodied people. (Feel free to message us and let us know what we could have said differently!)

    Matt James: Cast Bios

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 3, 2021 114:32


    The new season of The Bachelor starts on Monday, January 4, and we've got a run-down of the 32 ladies we'll see on night one! We've got not only the general demographics of the women, but their likes and dislikes, and our feeble attempts at describing their appearances. Listen in!

    Tayshia: Finale! Happy Freakin' New Year!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2021 83:20


    We've finally caught up on the finale of The Bachelorette! I'm not sure what else you need in this description. This seems pretty self-explanatory, so I feel like you can stop reading this and just listen to the episode, ok?

    Tayshia: Week 8 - Underwater Scuba Diving

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2020 69:47


    This is our "quiet" episode, which means we intended to stay quieter than usual but no way actually succeeded in doing so. Either way, fantasy suites happened! And we recap them! Enjoy!

    Tayshia: Week 7 - 210lbs of Pure Muscle

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2020 86:06


    In the history of the Bachelor/ette, has there ever been a better final four? Have there ever been more joyful and positive hometowns?

    Tayshia: Men Tell All+

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2020 41:29


    Finishing off last week's dates, Blake gets his one-on-one (and as far as we've seen, this might as well be his only interaction ever with Tayshia). Then it moves on the rose ceremony where, surprise, Bennett's back! (Am I the only one who forgot about him??) Then we get the Men Tell All, which should really just be titled "The Men Tell The Same Drama We Already Watched But With More Yelling."

    Tayshia: Week 5 - Statesticle

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2020 70:25


    So here's the thing, Kelly messes up Riley's name a bunch of times in this episode. I mean, clearly she knows his name is Riley, but all the other components got jumbled. She maybe gets it right in the end though? ...  Anyway, so aside from that, it's basically everything you expect the episode will be: Bennett and Noah, one-on-one with Ben, group date, and surprise Bennett. Enjoy!

    Tayshia: Week 4 - New Dart

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2020 99:04


    Look, these guys are some grown ass men. We've got real conversations happening and true vulnerability. It's honestly incredible to see such real conversations happening on this show, and we can only hope that this is a new trend for the show. (But like, it's still The Bachelor franchise, so probably not...)

    Tayshia: Week 3 - Black Lives Matter

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2020 100:37


    This episode is a long one because we've got thoughts about it, especially the Tayshia and Ivan talk that will undoubtedly go down in Bachelor Nation history. 

    Tayshia: Week 2 - Smedium or Mlarge

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2020 77:01


    Since the producers of The Bachelorette can't seem to figure out how to fit a group data, a one-on-one, another group date, and a rose ceremony into a single episode, we pick up on the second group date of Tayshia's first full week with these men.

    Tayshia Adams: Week 1 - Weirdo in the Turtleneck

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2020 91:15


    It's all finally happening -- Tayshia's the Bachelorette, Biden's going to be president. For this brief moment, everything feels little bit more ok in the world...

    Clare: Week 4 - Lunacy!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2020 78:25


    Look, I just don't know how to describe this episode besides complete and utter lunacy. It's just one wild moment or statement after the next.

    Clare: Week 3 - SuperDale! To the Rescue!

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2020 100:46


    From Yosef accidentally sending an explicit snap to the wrong person to our theories on how the Clare/Dale relationship got where it, we cover it all! 

    Clare: Week 2 - Etymology of Butthole

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2020 97:15


    Look, we don't normally have butt-related titles, but when it's appropriate... In this episode, we get into #promgate, Clare's ability to ruin an evening, Jason's therapy session, consent in nudity, and our surprising new opinion of Bennett. Well, and of course, the etymology of butthole.

    Clare: Week 1 - Clare's Box of Farts

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2020 68:28


    The long-awaiting Bachelorette premiere is finally here! Clare's got 31 men who seemingly all have real jobs and are willing to spend 2 weeks in solitary confinement in order to date her, which means they have dedication and patience. Listen as we recap the limo entrances and first night conversations, and as Kelly get real worked up about that butt in a box...

    Clare: Cast Bios

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2020 93:09


    It's FINALLY almost time for this quarantined season of The Bachelorette! We've got a sneak peek of the men to expect on Clare's season (and Tayshia? right??), starting Tuesday, October 13!

    Jason: Wedding & GOAT

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2020 94:18


    We did it! We made it through Jason Mesnick's season AND BEYOND. Take an adventure with us through the absolutely zonkatronic wedding episode where we visit the most romantic place on Earth (hint: it's in Las Vegas) and Bachelor producers refuse to acknowledge weather exists! Plus we get updates on Stephanie, Jillian, Melissa, Jason and Molly. Buckle in!

    Jason: After the Final Rose

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2020 36:37


    Melissa definitely knew that this was going to happen, but did Molly? We may never know.

    Jason: Week 9 - Zonkatronic

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2020 68:02


    It's the finale! Jason finally chooses the wrong person to propose to.

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