Podcasts about breastfeeding without birthing

In this episode we talk to Alyssa Schnell, Author of Breastfeeding Without Birthing, an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant (IBCLC)  and conference speaker. She has also been featured in the Journal of Human Lactation, the Journal of Clinical Lactation, The Washington Post, Adoptive Families magazine, New Beginnings magazine, Breastfeeding Today magazine, and Leader Today magazine.  Alyssa is the proud mother of three breastfed children, two by birth and one by adoption.     Highlights of the Episode:   Some factors of milk production Recommendations for families who want to start to induce lactation Steps to induce lactation Resources:   Website: www.alyssaschnellibclc.com Defining Your Own Success Get Here Breastfeeding Without Birthing  Get Here Connect with Shelly on Social Media:   Website: www.shellytaftibclc.com Instagram: @shellytaftibclc

Join us in discussing inducing lactation with Alyssa Schnell, lactation consultant in private practice and author of Breastfeeding Without Birthing, Alyssa Schnell, IBCLC.You can learn more about Alyssa's services for parents, parents-to-be and professions at https://www.breastfeedingwithoutbirthing.com

Let's welcome our first guest on Word To Your Mothers, Hope Lien of Held by Hope and Breast Feeding Outside the Box. Hope's passion is to support parents to be empowered and find their perfect parenting style as they bring their babies home after birth, adoption, or surrogacy, giving them the care they need to be filled, so that they can therefore pour into their babies. It's her delight to journey with parents of all ages and backgrounds through ups and downs of motherhood and fatherhood. All families are incredibly unique and deserve care as distinguished as their special backgrounds and preferences. For the past 12 years she ahs been honored to walk with families during the fourth trimester.  Hope has been a certified postpartum doula through DONA International, and she's currently certified as a Lactation Counselor through Healthy Children; she's also certified as a Breastfeeding Without Birthing instructor. Hope lives in Minneapolis with her husband and she has the honor of mothering her two children that she calls her little "miracles". Her 5-year old daughter came to their family through adoptions and Hope has the beautiful experience of helping to catch her when she entered the world, as well as induce lactation in order to nurse her for two years. Then, she very unexpectedly became pregnant with her second miracle baby, now 2; her son was born at home with loving support of her doulas, midwives and the support of her partner and his big sister.   Here is how you follow Hope! @heldbyhope & @sweetpeabreastfeeding  https://www.facebook.com/heldbyhope/ Listen to Breastfeeding Outside The Box: http://www.sweetpeabreastfeeding.com/podcast.html In Episode #9: Host Sondra Doty and Hope Lien join together to talk about two things they wished they knew in their roles as mothers and with postpartum. Even though they are bringing a birth worker perspective to this topic, they both had their challenges; and they discuss how the challenges can bring about many different outcomes.  Hope: We knew almost everything in the world about birth and postpartum. Knowing can not protect you from the potential of difficulty. (ex: Postpartum depression, anxiety, birth trauma, NICU stay). But it should motivate you to plan well! Hope did this but wishes she would have spent even more time creating specific support. She realized more support was needed than just meals. She emphasizes creating a lactation and postpartum plan. We research so much on the birth that we forget we are brining these babies home and need to have a plan for postpartum. Be willing to be vulnerable and humble accept help when it's offered. Also, keep reaching out until you get the support you need.   There is no such thing as a perfect motherhood. We need to learn that's it's ok to have dirty dishes, dirty babies, dirty mommies and dirty houses. It's ok to ask for support when you need to get your needs met and meet the needs of your baby. Try the best to find your personal BALANCE. This "balance" you desire is not always achievable. Remember that other's perceptions are THEIRS. They don't define who you are or how you are performing.  Sondra: Sondra wishes she knew that it's ok to have healthy boundaries and say no. As a birth worker she thought she had to try it all-especially with her first-born son; with her second son, born six years later, this mindset got better. She had to learn how to vocalize those boundaries.  She wishes she knew that she needed to ask for help more. Sondra assumed others would just see or recognize that she needed help. Plus, she found it challenging to express what she needed and when.  Sondra and Hope also share a few tips for postpartum and why-besides hiring a doula and postpartum doula, of course, LOL! Their action step for this episode is to encourage people to learn to esteem postpartum, too. Also, they want to encourage you to walk through the shame and guilt that maybe you are feeling around this new role or any stage of parenting.  If you love listening to Word To Your Mothers, kindly write a review on your podcast platform or send an email to wordmothers@gmail.com  Follow @wordtoyourmothers Check out Word To Your Mothers Official Merch!  http://www.bonfire.com/word-to-your-mothers-merch/ Click below to book Sondra to speak at your group or event.  http://www.wordtoyourmothers.com/speaking/

We are thrilled to re-visit an early podcast interview with Chrissy Fleishman who induced lactation for her baby born via surrogacy.  There are a couple of reasons why we are re-releasing it now.  One, we thought Chrissy gave a great interview.  She is well-informed and enthusiastic, and her experience has followed a fairly typical pattern - if there is such a thing in inducing lactation!  Second, we want to address a particular experience Chrissy shares.  Chrissy had Depo-Provera injections as a young adult in order to help with menstrual difficulties.  She experienced lactation as a side effect. Recently, there has been some information floating around online suggesting the use of Depo-Provera for inducing lactation.  This source cites a 1994 study done in Papua, New Guinea which 11 out of 12 mothers who had induced lactation with the help of a single Depo-Provera injection were able to fully lactate within a few weeks of starting the protocol.  (Nemba, 1994)  We agreed that this study seemed promising, not only because of the high rate of full lactation but also because the protocol described in the study takes much, much less time than other approaches typically used.  Although Alyssa had looked into this study when writing Breastfeeding Without Birthing, she decided it made sense to take another closer look and to contact some other professionals for their advice.  This podcast episode is about what she discovered (and in some cases  re-discovered).

I first learned about Malunggay (a.k.a. Moringa) as an herb to help with milk production when I was writing Breastfeeding Without Birthing.  When Diana West, IBCLC, author of Making More Milk and internationally known expert on milk production, was reviewing a draft of my book she suggested adding this really helpful herb.  I'm so glad she did!  Since then, I've worked with countless nursing parents who have successfully used this herb  -  whether they are inducing lactation, relactating, or needing to support milk production for other reasons.  During this interview, I chatted with Angela Veloso of Sugarpod Naturals, maker of Go-Lacta malunggay.  She has a rich knowledge and appreciation for this helpful herb, and after listening to her we think you will too!   Read our full show notes at our website http://www.sweetpeabreastfeeding.com/podcast.html ​  

It was great to hear from our show's co-host, Hope, about her inspiring journey to nursing her daughter by adoption.  Hope originally learned that breastfeeding in adoption was possible during her doula training.  Armed with the knowledge that breastfeeding would be possible for her even though she   was unable to conceive, Hope found resources on adoptive breastfeeding to be pretty scarce at first.  Fortunately, more information and support continued to emerge.  Here are some of the top resources that Hope found: The asklenore website* got her started with a step-by-step approach for inducing lactation, called the Newman-Goldfarb Protocol.  The Newman-Goldfarb Protocol primarily consists of pumping and the use of pharmaceutical medications to induce lactation. Several months later, Hope discovered additional options for inducing lactation in the newly released book, Breastfeeding Without Birthing.  Using some ideas she read about, she choose to enhance the steps in the Newman-Goldfarb protocol by adding some natural techniques, such as herbs and acupuncture Hope also discovered an amazingly supportive and informative Facebook group called Adoptive Breastfeeding. Hope consulted with a local International Board Certified Lactation Consultant (IBCLC) to help guide and support her as she induced lactation, and then with nursing once her baby arrived.  To find an IBCLC in your area who works with mothers through adoption or surrogacy, see the Find a Lactation Consultant page on the Breastfeeding Without Birthing website. *Note: Updates to increase the simplicity and safety of the Newman-Goldfarb protocol were published in Breastfeeding Without Birthing. Details regarding these updates can be found on the Breastfeeding Without Birthing blog.   SupplementationWhen Hope started the process of inducing lactation, she was hoping to achieve a full milk supply.  But, like most mothers who induce lactation, she did produce a significant amount of milk but not a full supply.  Knowing how much to supplement can be tricky - not enough supplemental milk or formula means baby won't have enough to eat, but too much supplemental milk or formula can mean less breastfeeding.  Looking back, Hope wonders if she supplemented too much too early.  Her pediatrician recommended supplementing 3 ounces per feeding within her daughter's first few days of life, but this recommendation was way more milk/formula than a baby needs in total at that age: At 3 days, normal intake during a feeding is 1 ounce. At 1 week, normal  intake during a feeding is 1.5 ounces. At 2 weeks, normal intake during a feeding is 2-2.5 ounces. At 1-6 months, normal intake during a feeding is 3-4 ounces [Mohrbacher & Kendall-Tackett, 2010]If a mother has induced lactation with pumping before her baby arrives, she will have a pretty good idea how much milk she is producing at a feeding, and can use the difference between her milk production and the normal intake numbers above as a starting point on how much to supplement.  

Alyssa shared with Hope the breastfeeding story that inspired Breastfeeding Without Birthing.  It has been 10 years since Alyssa became an adoptive parent who nursed her baby, and she has been working hard ever since to grow information and support around breastfeeding without pregnancy and birth.     Alyssa's passion for breastfeeding grew out of her experience nursing her first two (biological) children.  When she and her husband planned to adopt, she knew that breastfeeding would be a very important part of that plan. Building a Full Milk Supply when Inducing LactationWhile many mothers who induce lactation hope to build a fully supply, few of them do.  Alyssa was one of the fortunate ones.  Why are some mothers able to produce a full supply and others much less?  We really don't have all the answers, just as we don't have all the answers why some mothers by birth cannot produce a full supply.  But we do have some inclinations: Mothers who've birthed and breastfed before tend to make more milk. Mothers who work with an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant (IBCLC) tend to make more milk. Mothers who effectively and frequently empty their breasts make more milk, usually either by pumping with a hospital-grade breast pump or by breastfeeding with an at-breast supplementer. Mothers who take the medication domperidone tend to make more milk. Mothers who have experienced infertility due to hormonal reasons tend to make less milk. Alyssa emphasized that nursing very frequently (up to 14 times per day) was a challenge, yet she believes it was an important factor in why she was able to breastfeed her adopted daughter without supplementation. She explained that frequently nursing her baby allowed her to get enough milk over the course of the day, even though her breasts probably didn't produce very much milk at each feeding.  Producing a small amount of milk each time the breasts are emptied is referred to as "small breast storage capacity" and is typical of mothers whose bodies haven't just undergone pregnancy. 

This week on the podcast, we have a wonderful interview to share with you. Alyssa Schnell IBCLC has a special place in her heart for helping mothers through adoption and surrogacy to breastfeed their babies. She is the author of Breastfeeding Without Birthing: A Breastfeeding Guide for Mothers Through Adoption, Surrogacy, and Other Special Circumstances.… The post All Things Breastfeeding Episode 13: Breastfeeding Without Birthing with Alyssa Schnell appeared first on The Breastfeeding Center of Ann Arbor.

Can you breast feed a child you did not give birth to? Should you? How do you breastfeed as an adoptive mother or mother through surrogacy? Listen to Dawn’s interview with Alyssa Schnell,  International Board Certified Lactation Consultant, and author of Breastfeeding Without Birthing: A Breastfeeding Guide for Mothers through Adoption, Surrogacy, and Other Special Circumstances Blog summary of the show and highlights can be found here:   Blog summary of the show   Highlights   More Creating a Family resources on breastfeeding without birthing can be found here. Support the show (https://creatingafamily.org/donation/)