Where You Go, I Go

Rob and Rachel are on staycation!

Two friends connect after the Iowa Caucus and prepare for Lent.

Two friends catch up after winter vacation and have a very long conversation, at one point talking about old time internet.

Two friends talk to pass the time.

Two friends talk about their experience as Iowa Artist Fellows.

Two friends talk about Rob's silent retreat. Shhhh... some people are trying to study here !

Rob and Rachel talk to Becky who moved to Iowa a year ago from the UK.

Two friends talk about Drag Con and bonobos. One is about to have a birthday.

Two friends talk about time. Show Notes: Tackling the Worry Cloud / Feeling Bad about Good Projects ? / Money or Time / 4 Hour Work Week / Is 100 thousand dollars a week is preposterous ? / Hourly Paycheck or Salary / Allan Watts Long Day / Transmission Cut Off - Missing Time / Thich Nhat Hanh / Trotsky / Profound v. Mundane / Slow Days / Unwillingness to Practice / I am going to be all Buddhisty, sorry / The Panic Voice / Not Reacting / Pushed Around by Life / Falling Out of the World but Everything is still Fine / Post Funeral Pizza / Mending the Wound by Treating it’s Roots / David Lynch and Russell Brant / Hey your not being mean to me anymore, what’s your problem ? / The Elasticity of Time / Float Tanks / Merging Back into the Marketplace of the World /What is this thing called Sarcasm / Hannah Arndt / This Trash World is Still Trash / Jen Leatherby vs. Trotsky / Corporate Mindfulness Culture as a Tool to Tranquilize Workers / What is Anger Nagging you About? / Banality of Evil misrepresented / Active or Passive Nazi / I draw the Line about badmouthing St. Bernie / Right Living / Things are Spiraling / Being an Artist in a World aflame / Personal Relationships Beat Logic / Artist Job as a Fear Wrangler / Loving Kindness Meditation / The Buzz of Thoughts / Pass It On / Generational Change / The Teens got this Gender Non Binary thing down / No One wants to follow a Prewritten Script / Getting Rid of Gender / Judith Butler is No big Deal to the Youngs / Contests Still Open / Question : What is the difference between emerging and established artist ? / Emerging Artist means who can be paid less, established means we have to Pay More / Zen Mind Beginners Mind Territory / MOMA Show is Not such a Good motivation / Putting Words on Art is a Way of Giving Civilians Permission to Engage / What to do when someone wants to buy the original, but there isn’t one ? / Young is to Cheap as New York is to California / Think Pieces about Grids

Two friends invent hashtag contests. Show Notes: Worry Cloud for fun? I wish / Experiments in foam / Ghost Hands / White Linen Night / Air is thick and goopy like gumbo / Rob Has Temper Tantrum / White Flowing Sheets of Clothe ? No, but plenty of alcohol ? / Weirdo Hunting / Weird Ambiguity / Humble Brag ? / Internalized ablism ? / Brand New to my Treacherous Body / The Heavy Presence of Having a Walker / meeting people pre-visual disability versus post visual disability / Essentially Elderly / Good or Bad, Animal or Plant / Endless Judgement : The mother of judgement is always pregnant /Catty Ingersoll Neighborhood internet forum breeds SHADE / Complaining about complaining ? Talking about negativity and not being negative ? / Cognitive Therapy / Why is it ok to be a jerk to yourself ? / Insidiousness of dark views / Non Threatening or Approachable / Americorps / Baby Boomers radically transform universal design as they age / The iPhone biggening continues / Lamoni IA ( pop.2000) arch nemesis Leon IA gets love from Iowa Arts Council / Called out on our terrible advice by Jeff / New Alluvial Beer in Ames - Delicious / Cats Paw / All the kids love white claw / Bucketsful of Lacroix / WITCH CAMP ! / WIITCH TIIT BAND / Lyndsay Nissen and Reliable Street / Bread and Butter Art / Selling out ? / Melissa schemes how to take money from all them “13 reasons why” teens / Audition : Mr. Hands Spokesperson Opportunity / Rob and Melissa’s Annual War on Christmas Movies / Too many movies ? / Are trashy exploitation films really research ? / Keith from the Druids band instagram “Keith Watches Films” / Puppet Fish / Hours Before Sleep / Bemis / Choices come out of limitations / Does Idealism enter into it ? Does a Trust fund really make your life great? / Is convenience worse ? Leslie H ? Is that Leslie Hall ? THE LESLIE HALL !!! Cleaning house ? Good answer v. Actual answer / Dust Bunnies art dump versus Marie Kondo / KonMari as installation manual for making a sculptural space or shrine / KonMari hurt my back / 2020 tidy festival / Dick Blick’s Catalog Overflow / When in doubt, dip it into slip and fire it in a kiln / Is this an advise show when we don’t really give advice ? / Is the that thick ass The Artists Handbook by Ralph Mayer a good place to hide your pot ? / Audience , 2 calls to action !! / 1. Help Ms. Leslie Hall out ! by posting your solutions to her Dick Block Catalog problem by posting pictures to #lesliehalldickblickcatalog on Instagram / Become A ghost hand spokes person by posting picture to #goodkidrobmrhandcontest

Two friends talk about death. We’re almost a real podcast like the big wigs on iTunes / A very niche market of one / is napping a real use of studio time ? / Studio as a tithe or sacrifice to Art Gods / Travel the world, or tortino’s pizza rolls / Studio won’t starve without you / Infiltrating the Mr. Legs Pageant / Costumes are beyond extra / Just legs walking / Art will force you to participate / The House of Leg / Participation Ribbons / So Many Venues Begging to be taken / Is every moment a venue ? / Disability Feels / Selling out by making trashy things / Vampire Flip Flops crossed the line / Teen Suicide TV Program Plans to Showcase My robot / She’s Gotta Have It / Vaccines are controversial / Other People Have Exciting Lives and I am a House Plant / Digital Work v. Real Work / Sad Goodbye / "Out To Lunch" / Death Guru / Post Mortem Photography / The Eye Gallery / Be Blunt and Ask Questions / International Cat Day / Get Me Some of That Cat Money / There is a lid for every jar / Lions Gate Portal Opening / Never Ending Story / Western Attitudes Towards Death / Keeping the Body / Ritual as speed bump / Death Doula / “You are a little soul carrying about a corpse” Marcus Aurelius / Quitting Jobs / Maybe Think on it for like an Hour / You should quit even if it is a terrible idea / Art And-Or Politics / Culture is always complicit / Self Indulgence in Art ? how far is too far ? / Self Expression versus Expression / What is so fearful about indulgence / There is only so much variation / Amanda Palmer - The Art of Asking / Making art for an audience of one / Who or when is the audience / The audience is PART of the piece / Everyone waters themselves down - artists are agents of self determination / Is it asking too much of my loved ones to throw me in bonfire to save money on caskets / People seldom argue with a dead person / Mushroom Bags / Hannibal tv show seemed super gay , in a good way

Two friends talk about music, sorta. Rosewood Piano / Music seems real complicated problem for fingers / Keys, rhythm ? / Being In a band as a means of ego reduction? / Music is like jump Rope / Is effortlessness worth it ?/ "OMG - you can choose to do the easy thing ? Mind Blown !" / MS can Kick Rocks/ Parsing energy per day / Sliding through life like a warm knife through butter - is that possible ? / Pianos hate hands / The Cringing Ice Skater -Your Audience has enough problems, and don’t need to be dragged into yours / Apple Pencil? With these Giant Gorilla Monster Hands ? / Mouse is like Drawing with thick bar of soap - but I love it / Illustrator Basic Shapes - Is laziness the key to most modern design ?/ If most people do it, then it is perceived as “professional”/ A penis !?! In my art ? If I had known it would be that kind of party…./ Galleries / Too Many TJs / Moberg Gallery / Olsen Larsen Gallery /Creative Capital Blues / You are the one with the valuable commodity/ It is an artist statement, not a deposition / Swoon - Street Art/ Do you even need a gallery ? / My dead feet are the elephant in the room / Everything tastes like Aluminum / Rob will make you a poster ( offer excludes Nazi’s, White Supremacists, Gun Enthusiasts, Religious Extremists, Trumpers etc. ) / DesMoines is a nice womb / Constipated Cat / Do you have to be a trust fund baby to make art ? / Witch Lady Memory Narrative Construction / Overactive Bossy Brain / You don’t need to prove you can make art / Getting civilians to do civilian things for you / “Social Media Influencers” and their ilk / Assemble your art squad / “you only need to convince ten people you are an artist to be an artist” / Iowa Art Fellowship Trash Talk and SHADE / Iowa State Fair Husband Yelling / Subverting the Mr. Legs contest with Gender Terrorism ? / As always, Snitched get Stiches

Two friends talk about magic with their friend Mia! ABRACADABRA- The infinite canvas of podcasting / Guest Artist - Magician Mia Farrell / Artists have lots of problems apparently / Art and Relationships / Should Artists date other Artists / Magicking and Art / Ritual versus Performance Art / “Performative Art” versus performance art / Difference between performance art and mere theatre / AN audience is not a neutral element / Creating Auspiciousness/ Everything is intentional, specific and chosen / Is magick just matter of making everything chosen - is art ? / Is the audience complicit with you ? / Making visual things to hold you accountable to your identity / Who do you want to be ? Why not just be that then ? / Performance art as physical test - the body never lies / Point of contact / Kitty City / Exchanging energy / no money = safe from criticism ? / Make art, or play candy crush / Good Luck Bad Luck - Hexes / What makes something positive or negative / Chapman House / Constructing Narratives / Randomness versus intention / Intention - you need to make choices on purpose / Shrine as sculpture / Art as gift /Do good and bad even apply to art ? / “ I was not ready for Bjork at that time in my life” ​Advice - Starting over ? Making friends in art community / Don’t wait for a key / Making friends and Influencing people / Is criticism even helpful or needed ? / We have maxed out our Sound cloud - Help ?

Two friends talk while one is at the beach. Son of a beach ! We are at the “Oh God” Stage of the podcast. ​ Show Notes: 80 / 35 Rabbits in sculpture park traumatized by music / crown making, theft and fire / tarot bibliomancy / selling art work -is it betraying your work to try to sell it in Etsy or other trashy social media ? Tropical Storm Barry - boring AF/ rule breaking and making art with civilians / ruining art as a good strategy for making art “ I’m the artist and if I say it is zebra it is so shut up !” Floodgates are open but now what ? Art as evidence of your damage. Are deadlines part of your process ? Are periods of hibernation part of your process ? Animal Totems, Spirit Rabbits - calling your fear to you with anxiety. Borrowing tomorrows troubles. Ringing bells and hammering nails incorrectly . Websites as elevator pitch. “Internet is so flat” . “Looking at art square in the eye.” Self sabotage.

Two friends talk about drag. Show Notes: Good Kid Rob Prints www.ebay.com/str/goodkidrobprints Follow us instagram! @goodkidrob & @laze_tornado Art Week Des Moines Most & Least Awards youtu.be/yGR9d9acDfo Red Grooms, Fat Feet: ubu.com/film/grooms_fat.html

Two friends talk over a long distance.