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It is common for new Christians, or newly serious Christians, who want to deepen their relationship with scripture to set out to “read the whole Bible cover-to-cover.” This practice, while well-intentioned, can lead to one of two problems. First, many Christians make it through the exciting, narrative story of Genesis and Exodus before losing interest somewhere in the legal sections of the Pentateuch. This is unsurprising. As a lawyer familiar with legal treatises and codes, Ian can tell you that even the best jurist usually does not intend his treatise to be a pleasant cover-to-cover reading experience even for other lawyers, let alone the lay reader. A legal treatise is designed to be consulted, not read like a novel. Because all legal treatises are boring to read, Christians at first riveted by the generational drama of Jacob, Joseph, and Moses usually founder in discouragement when they collide with Mosaic dietary and agricultural laws. Sadly, this prevents many Christians from ever truly discovering biblical narratives that are as compelling and rich as Genesis-Exodus—including Judges and the books of Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles. Secondly, some Christians who do succeed in making it through the Bible cover-to-cover do not seem to profit much by the experience. I'm reminded here of the Christian musician Shannon Low, who—as I recall the story, at least—publicly repudiated his faith after a skeptic directed him to read the story of Elisha killing 42 young boys in 2 Kings 2. Low recalled that he was shocked to read the story despite having previously “read the whole Bible.” “How did I miss this?,” he asked himself. I'd wager that Low was a “cover-to-cover” Bible reader. The fundamental problem is that some Christians—informed by a naïve oversimplification of sola scriptura—implicitly assume that the various books of the Bible were directly ordered by God into a coherent structure, that all components of the Bible are intended to be understood by the ordinary person with no external assistance, and that the Bible as a whole is meant to be read in a sequential narrative form. These assumptions have no basis in the Bible itself and little basis in church history. They instead seem to reflect the creeping, unconscious influence of Islam's theology of the Quran. Unlike Christians, Muslims have historically held that their central text was dictated verbatim by an angel and existed as a coherent, single text from eternity past. In contrast, Christians since before the time of Jerome have understood the Bible as a library of individual books, in different genres, created in a variety of ways and in different historical circumstances. The precise scope of the canon has always been considered an appropriate subject for inspired councilor deliberation and/or scholarly debate. Read the full article here.
In this shorter episode Nick and Dan connect via phone since Nick is having a great time in Scottsdale without him! We talk about what's crossing the block in Scottsdale and give a quick recap of events there while Dan freezes to death without power at home. Listen in for a unusual, but useful Carter Subaru Tip of the Week as well! Special thanks to previous guests Scott and Katrina for hosting the AZ Jet Center Event, Shannon Low with Authentic Motorcars for hooking Nick up with an amazing Pantera for the Scottsdale Drive, Ashley Shoemaker from Hagerty, Alexa Bockmier with Park Place Motors for the VIP treatment, and everyone else who made Scottsdale amazing (as usual) this year! Listen in to Dan who did guest spot on The Money Hour with Tina Mitchell and Keelan Harvey talking about cars, investment cars, money, and keeping it real!
We talk to Shannon Low of Authentic Motorcars in Redmond. If you’ve spent anytime in the car scene in the PNW your probably know Shannon as a staple in the car community here. Shannon is a specialist in just about every car brand, but especially the obscure and unique. Unlike us, he’s a jack of all cars and a master of most. Tune in and hear about LaForza, Spkyer, Saab, and more!
How does the Christian community react when a believer changes his path and becomes an ardent atheist? Find the answers as Shannon Low of The Order of Elijah joins The Antidote. He boldly tells why he left his faith on TOOE's latest release, War At Heart.
How does the Christian community react when a believer changes his path and becomes an ardent atheist? Find the answers as Shannon Low of The Order of Elijah joins The Antidote. He boldly tells why he left his faith on TOOE’s latest release, War At Heart.
We are joined by Shannon Low of the Order of Elijah experimental metal band. The band started with a Christian label, but moved to a secular label and now Shannon has come out as an atheist. This episode is brought to you by: Dark Matter Sponsor - >US$35.00 * Travis Megee Nuclear Sponsor - US$20.00 - US$35.00 per month * Russ from the Kitsap Atheists & Agnostics * Frank * Darryl Goossen Platinum Sponsor - US$8.00 - US$19.00 per month * Virginia Dawn * Paul Burkey * BT Motley * George * Inciting Incident Gold Sponsor - US$4.00 - US$7.00 per month * Mark * The Flying Skeptic * Renee Davis-Pelt * Mike Price * LaTonya * Duncan * Jaded Zappa * Alex * Will * Henry * Alan * Rachel * Bumboclaat Bronze Sponsor - < US$4.00 per month * Mark * Peter * Heather * Shawn * Al from South Carolina * Archway Hosting provides full featured web hosting for a fraction of the cost of traditional shared hosting. You get all the benefits of shared hosting, without the sticker shock or extra fees. Check them out at archwayhosting.com. You can find us online at www.atheistnomads.com, follow us on Twitter @AtheistNomads, like us on Facebook, email us at contact@atheistnomads.com, and leave us a voice mail message at (541) 203-0666. Theme music is provided by Sturdy Fred.
We are joined by Shannon Low of the Order of Elijah experimental metal band. The band started with a Christian label, but moved to a secular label and now Shannon has come out as an atheist. This episode is brought to you by: Dark Matter Sponsor - >US$35.00 * Travis Megee Nuclear Sponsor - US$20.00 - US$35.00 per month * Russ from the Kitsap Atheists & Agnostics * Frank * Darryl Goossen Platinum Sponsor - US$8.00 - US$19.00 per month * Virginia Dawn * Paul Burkey * BT Motley * George * Inciting Incident Gold Sponsor - US$4.00 - US$7.00 per month * Mark * The Flying Skeptic * Renee Davis-Pelt * Mike Price * LaTonya * Duncan * Jaded Zappa * Alex * Will * Henry * Alan * Rachel * Bumboclaat Bronze Sponsor - < US$4.00 per month * Mark * Peter * Heather * Shawn * Al from South Carolina * Archway Hosting provides full featured web hosting for a fraction of the cost of traditional shared hosting. You get all the benefits of shared hosting, without the sticker shock or extra fees. Check them out at archwayhosting.com. You can find us online at www.atheistnomads.com, follow us on Twitter @AtheistNomads, like us on Facebook, email us at contact@atheistnomads.com, and leave us a voice mail message at (541) 203-0666. Theme music is provided by Sturdy Fred.
Passion of the Christ 2, religious freedom is just for Christians, Evangelicals are feeling a little left out, Iowa’s governor, Mecca turns mega, and Dan interviews newly minted atheist Shannon Low of the Order of Elijah.
In this week’s episode, we witness an act of bovine intervention, Jim Bakker becomes the world's least successful Mexican powder salesman, and Shannon Low, the lead singer of the formerly Christian band The Order of Elijah will be here to tell us what the “formerly” thing is all about. Click Here to make a per episode donation at Patreon.com Click Here to get tickets for our live record of God Awful movies in NYC. Click Here to buy our book. Click Here to check out The Skepticrat. Click Here to check out God Awful Movies. --- Guest Links: Click Here to check out The Order of Elijah’s Facebook Page. Click Here to read about Shannon Low’s fateful Facebook post on The Friendly Atheist. Click Here to check out the full episode of Be Reasonable referenced in the episode. --- Headlines: Ray Comfort told to fuck off from Reason Rally: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/28/ray-comforts-plan-to-evangelize-to-atheists-at-the-reason-rally-has-been-thwarted/ SJ DOUBLE-MOOhttp://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/23/in-india-security-cameras-capture-a-cow-attacking-men-in-the-middle-of-an-honor-killing/ Teacher prayed kids scores better: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/26/principal-charged-in-cheating-scandal-said-kids-scores-improved-because-she-prayed-for-them/ Uber made me do ithttp://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/23/michigan-spree-killer-says-he-didnt-really-do-it-it-was-the-devil-in-his-uber-phone-app/ Hell awaits grumpy cat: http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-cleric-coughs-hairballs-over-cat-pictures-gulf-kingdom-463356 Saudi man shoots doctor who delivered his baby for seeing his wife’s hoo-ha: http://m.gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/man-shoots-male-doctor-for-assisting-his-wife-s-delivery-in-saudi-arabia-1.1835093 NJ rejects bill to give $11 million to religious schools: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/26/new-jersey-appeals-court-rejects-bill-giving-11000000-in-taxpayer-money-to-two-religious-schools/ Jim bakker has giant bucket of MEXICAN food nowhttp://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/24/televangelist-jim-bakker-buy-my-giant-buckets-of-mexican-food-because-things-are-coming/ --- This Week in Misogyny: Catholic school dance rules: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/25/catholic-school-issues-dance-rules-no-cleavage-heels-stay-on-and-only-serious-dates-allowed/ Dad forces 14 year old daughter to marry her rapist: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/26/christian-dad-took-his-14-year-old-to-her-rapist-and-made-them-get-married/ Church accused of covering up dad on daughter rape and the herpes she contracted from it: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/27/lawsuit-alleges-that-church-leaders-ignored-girl-who-was-raped-by-her-father-and-contracted-herpes/
SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR: http://www.lootcrate.com/sethandrews (promo code sethandrews) "The Order of Elijah" is a metalcore band from Joplin, Missouri. Since their debut album "Accession" released in 2012, they have been identified as a Christian band. Yet lead singer Shannon Low recently declared that he - and the band - no longer held to the Christian faith. Low is an atheist, and he is being very public about it.Shannon Low joins Seth Andrews for a candid discussion about Christianity, the business of Christian music, his apostasy, the backlash, and the future of a "formerly Christian" band.VIDEO OF THIS INTERVIEW: https://youtu.be/NdA2IWwiZXoThe Order of Elijah pages:FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/theorderofelijahLUXOR RECORDS: http://www.luxor-records.com/#!the-order-of-elijah/c1ighHemant Mehta's article: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/22/the-lead-singer-of-a-christian-metal-band-just-came-out-as-an-atheist
#33: The Order of Elijah - Christian Metal Apostate In this special edition of Cellar Door Skeptics, we interview Shannon Low the lead singer of The Order of Elijah. We talk about his conversion to Christianity, lapse of faith, and descent into atheism. This episode touches home as we see more and more individuals leaving the faith. Check out this interview that will tickle your sense and give you a sense of what their band is about. Segment ------ 00:00 The Whole Episode is an Interview Exclusive! Episode: http://www.spreaker.com/user/cellardoorskeptics/the-order-of-elijah Subscribe: http://www.spreaker.com/user/cellardoorskeptics Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CellarDoorSkeptics RSS Feed: https://www.spreaker.com/user/8326690/episodes/feed iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cellar-door-skeptics/id1044088575?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 Website: http://cellardoorskeptics.com Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cellar-door-skeptics Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cellardoorskeptics Intro Music: http://aloststateofmind.com/ Links ------ http://www.amazon.com/War-At-Heart-Order-Elijah/dp/B01886FXKY https://m.facebook.com/theorderofelijah http://www.luxor-records.com/#!the-order-of-elijah/c1igh https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Order_of_Elijah Twitter: @orderofelijah http://hmmagazine.com/blog/album-reviews/order-elijah-war-heart/ http://hmmagazine.com/blog/album-reviews/order-elijah-war-heart/ http://highwiredaze.com/tooeint1 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/05/22/the-lead-singer-of-a-christian-metal-band-just-came-out-as-an-atheist/ http://www.christiantoday.com/article/if.youre.going.to.become.an.atheist.dont.do.it.for.stupid.reasons/86765.htm