Hurma Project Podcast

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Ingrid Mattson and Mihad Fahmy interview imams, chaplains, therapists, and other experts about how to prevent and respond to violations of trust and spiritual abuse in Muslim spaces. Hurma is an Islamic term meaning the sacred inviolability of persons.

Hurma Project


    • Dec 15, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
    • monthly NEW EPISODES
    • 48m AVG DURATION
    • 19 EPISODES


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    Latest episodes from Hurma Project Podcast

    Season Two Wrap-Up

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2022 54:22


    The Hurma Project Team reflects on lessons learned from the past season; includes comments from Mihad Fahmy, Ingrid Mattson, Maysa Haque, Faisal Bhabha, Tamara Gray, Hind Makki, Iman Boundaoui, Jaye Starr, Joshua Salaam and Mohamed Magid.

    Iman Boundaoui: Community Trauma & Healing

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2022 61:04


    Lawyer and somatic practitioner Iman Boundaoui discusses the challenges Muslim communities face and the rich resources they can draw upon to heal and transform collective, intergenerational and politicized trauma through embodied leadership. 

    AMC Chaplains: Holding Ourselves Accountable, Part Two

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2022 40:58


    A continuation of our conversation with Chaplains Jaye Starr, Lauren Schreiber and Joshua Salaam of the Association of Muslim Chaplains about how they developed a Code of Conduct for their professional association, and their commitment to finding effective and compassionate means to accountability.

    AMC Chaplains: Holding Ourselves Accountable, Part One

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2022 47:47


    A conversation with Chaplains Jaye Starr, Lauren Schreiber and Joshua Salaam, leaders of the  Association of Muslim Chaplains, about the Code of Conduct they developed for their  professional association, and about their commitment to finding effective and compassionate means to accountability.   

    Mihad Fahmy and Faisal Bhabha: Investigating Allegations of Misconduct

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2022 47:34


    Lawyers Mihad Fahmy and Faisal Bhabha explain how investigations into complaints of workplace misconduct are undertaken. They explore the problem with buried reports, the liability of board members, and the opportunity for Muslim organizations to create a culture of respect and transparency beyond their legal obligations. 

    Imam Mohamed Magid and Magda Saleh: Protecting Children

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2022 65:59


    Imam Magid and Sister Magda discuss what parents, teachers, and administrators must do to keep children safe in Muslim spaces, including by listening to children and giving them protective knowledge and agency.

    Hind Makki: Inclusion and Dignity in the Mosque

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2022 55:07


    The Founder of Side Entrance, a website documenting women's spaces in mosques, explains why she believes they should continue to be at the heart of Muslim community life, and why a paradigm of inclusion will elevate not only women's experiences, but men's too. 

    Tamara Gray & Zaynab Ansari: Teacher-Student Relationships, Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2022 55:41


    A continuation of our conversation with Shaykha Dr. Tamara Gray, Founder and Director of Rabata, and Ustadha Zaynab Ansari, Scholar-in-Residence at Tayseer Seminary.

    Tamara Gray & Zaynab Ansari: Teacher-Student Relationships, Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2022 46:45


    Shaykha Dr. Tamara Gray, Founder and Director of Rabata, and Ustadha Zaynab Ansari, Scholar-in-Residence at Tayseer Seminary, discuss the hallmarks of healthy teacher-student and mureed-shaykh relationships.

    Episode 8: Season One Finale

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2021 58:26


    Ingrid Mattson, Mihad Fahmy and Maram Albakri wrap up the season with your questions and comments, a discussion of some of their key learnings, and a look ahead at Season Two of the Hurma Project Podcast.  

    Ep. 7: Nadiah Mohajir, Responding to Disclosures of Sexual Assault

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2021 63:10


    Nadiah Mohajir, MPH, is a public health professional, co-founder, and Executive Director of  HEART ( Sex education and advocacy for Muslims | HEART To Grow), a sexual health and sexual violence prevention organization for Muslims. Since 2009 HEART has been supporting survivors of sexual assault and educating the Muslim community about research-based solutions to prevention and risk-reduction. In this conversation Nadiah describes the barriers victims face to disclosing abuse and how friends, family, and others can provide helpful support to those who do share their painful experiences of sexual violation. 

    Looking for Feedback

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2021 2:48


    Ramadan Hiatus; Ramadan Mubarak!

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2021 4:09


    The Hurma Project Podcast team wishes everyone a blessed Ramadan. We will be back after Eid insha Allah.

    Ep. 6: Imam Abdul-Malik Merchant, Pastoral Care Dynamics Between Men & Women

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2021 56:42


    Imam Abdul-Malik digs deeper into some of the nuances of pastoral care, and explains the dynamics of transference and countertransference in a counseling relationship.

    Ep. 5: Salma Abugideiri, Healthy Boundaries, Part Two

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2021 49:37


    A continuation of our conversation with Licensed Professional Therapist Salma Abugideiri. She explains the dynamics of power and vulnerability and the importance of setting healthy boundaries in professional relationships, including between religious teachers, imams, and counselors. 

    Ep. 4: Salma Abugideiri, Healthy Boundaries, Part One

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2021 54:30


    Licensed Professional Therapist Salma Abugideiri explains the dynamics of power and vulnerability and the importance of setting healthy boundaries in professional relationships, including between religious teachers, imams, and counselors.

    Ep. 1: Dr. Rania Awaad, Spiritual Abuse, Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2021 48:21


    A discussion with Dr. Rania Awaad about the series of psychological impacts of spiritual abuse including grooming, moral confusion, nonresistance to prolonged abuse and failure to report. Based on her co-authored paper with Dr. Tabish Riaz for the 2020 Hurma Project Research Conference: https://hurmaproject.com/research/articles/      

    Ep. 2: Dr. Rania Awwad, Spiritual Abuse, Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2021 47:38


    The second part of our discussion with Dr. Rania Awaad about the series of psychological impacts of spiritual abuse including grooming, moral confusion, nonresistance to prolonged abuse, and failure to report. Based on her co-authored paper with Dr. Tabish Riaz for the 2020 Hurma Project Research Conference: 

    Ep. 3: Imam Muhammad Abuelezz, Imams as Counselors

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2021 54:54


    Imams of mosques in North America spend the majority of their time counseling community members, but counseling in this context is generally undefined. Many imams do not have the opportunity for proper training in counselling, and are often left unsupervised and unsupported in this work, making them, and their congregants, vulnerable to ethical violations and spiritual harm.

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