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WHAT IS A DOULA? Full-spectrum doula and community educator Jenna “JB” Brown of Love Over Fear Wellness joins Caitlin for a conversation about what a doula is, the intersection of reproductive justice and anti-capitalism, queer and trans inclusion in care systems, gender and transition work & being a doula in the online space. LOVE OVER FEAR WELLNESS AND BIRTH, LLC Jenna “JB” Brown (They/them/theirs or he/him/his) Transmasc non-binary full-spectrum doula & educator Website: https://loveoverfearwellness.com Resource Page: https://loveoverfearwellness.com/resources/ The Love over Fear Community Fund: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/loveoverfearwellness Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/loveoverfearwellness/ THE DOWN THERE: VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of an episode, or send us an email. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, and much more https://www.instagram.com/thedowntherepodcast/ CREDITS: Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio Thanks for listening! xoxo TheDownThereTeam This episode is sponsored by Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Join our host Caitlin for PART II of her audio journals from her third trimester of pregnancy, and a conversation with her partner about their birth story and transition into parenthood. Part I is Episode 9 and can be found in our archives. RESOURCES THAT INFORMED THIS EPISODE: RAISING THEM: Our Adventure in Gender Creative Parenting By Kyl Myers https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/raising-them-kyl-myers/1134799521 JENNA “JB” BROWN: Queer Doula & Radical Educator Austin, TX and online https://loveoverfearwellness.com Learn about birthing advocacy, queer birth workers & full spectrum doulas https://www.instagram.com/birthingadvocacy/ THE DOWN THERE: VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find resources from show notes, a transcript of an episode, or send us an email. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, accounts we love, and much more https://www.instagram.com/thedowntherepodcast/ CREDITS: Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

LET'S TALK ABORTION AND EMPATHY WITH DR. DAVID L BERRY Our guest today is Dr David L Berry, founder and president of Austin Perinatal Associates. Dr Berry is fourth generation physician, father of four daughters, a true Texan, and an expert in medical and obstetric complications of pregnancy. He works with patients who have common preexisting conditions like diabetes, hypertension, thyroid disorder, to folks with multiple pregnancy losses, and more complex diseases such as cancer, HIV/AIDS and many other issues. Beyond his practice, Dr. Berry provides expert witness testimony in abortion cases at the state level. His experience with high risk pregnancy, the depths of complications he's dealt with, and his work in obstetrics makes him an ideal candidate for this work, as does his empathy for both the pregnant person and the fetus. We talk about some of the many pregnancy related complications he's dealt with, circumstances around abortion, what kinds of abortions are performed at the different stages of pregnancy, empathy in the medical field, and how all of these inform his testimony and personal views- not just on abortion, but how we treat one another. Austin Perinatal Associates: https://www.facebook.com/austinperinatal https://www.austinperinatal.com/dr-david-berry Ordinary Equality Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ordinary-equality/id1492330633 THE DOWN THERE: VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of an episode, or send us an email. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, and much more https://www.instagram.com/thedowntherepodcast/ CREDITS: Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio Thanks for listening! xoxo TheDownThereTeam This episode is sponsored by Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Disclaimer: Health links are made available for educational purposes only, and should not be interpreted as medical advice. All health information should be discussed with your healthcare provider. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

What does it mean to live in the light? In our last episode, libby spoke with us about her bipolar, experience with postpartum psychosis, and learning to live with her diagnosis. In part 2, Libby is joined by her husband Caleb and mother Ann to talk about working through hard things together as a family, the unexpected joys they found in a time of crisis, and what it means to live in the light. Learn More about World Bipolar Day: http://www.worldbipolarday.org The Motherhood Center of NY: https://www.themotherhoodcenter.com(212) 335-0034 Postpartum Support International: postpartum.net Call the PSI helpline 24/7 toll free at 1800 944 4773, or send a text to 503 894 9453 They are there to listen, answer questions, & connect you with local resources. Text the national crisis hotline for free from anywhere in the US, any time, about any type of crisis by texting HOME all caps to 741741. Call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1800 273 8255 for yourself or someone else. It’s free and confidential 24/7. They are there to listen, and will not immediately call police. In an emergency please dial 911 for immediate assistance. THE DOWN THERE: VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find resources from show notes, a transcript of an episode, or send us an email. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, accounts we

What does it mean to have bipolar? A few months postpartum with her child, Libby did not feel like herself. Many new parents experience anxiety and depression, but this was something different. After a harrowing day and sleepless night, Libby was checked into a psychiatric ward where she was diagnosed with bipolar and postpartum psychosis. This is her story of those early days, her treatment, diagnoses, and learning to live with bipolar as a part of her life going forward. This episode is released on March 30th to celebrate World Bipolar Day and Libby's bravery in telling her story. Learn More about World Bipolar Day: http://www.worldbipolarday.org The Motherhood Center of NY: https://www.themotherhoodcenter.com (212) 335-0034 Postpartum Support International: postpartum.net Call the PSI helpline 24/7 toll free at 1800 944 4773, or send a text to 503 894 9453 They are there to listen, answer questions, & connect you with local resources. Text the national crisis hotline for free from anywhere in the US, any time, about any type of crisis by texting HOME all caps to 741741. Call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1800 273 8255 for yourself or someone else. It’s free and confidential 24/7. They are there to listen and will not immediately call police. In an emergency please dial 911 for immediate assistance. Bipolar and postpartum psychosis definitions from: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bipolar-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355955 https://www.dbsalliance.org/education/bipolar-disorder/ https://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/default.htm https://www.postpartum.net/learn-more/postpartum-psychosis/ https://womensmentalhealth.org/specialty-clinics/postpartum-psychiatric-disorders/ https://www.mghp3.org/about-postpartum-psychosis THE DOWN THERE: VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more or send us an email. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, accounts we

Join our host Caitlin as she shares audio journals compiled over the first six months of her pregnancy. You’ll hear Caitlin learning in real time as she explores her fears, hopes, insecurities, physical changes, gender feels, her own privileges and biases, pregnancy milestones, musings on the miracle of life, partnership, and much more. BOOKS THAT INFORMED THIS EPISODE: Raising Them: Our Adventure in Gender Creative Parenting By Kyl Myers https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/raising-them-kyl-myers/1134799521 Expecting Better: why the conventional pregnancy wisdom is wrong- and what you really need to know By Emily Oster https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/310896/expecting-better-by-emily-oster/ Cribsheet: a data-driven guide to better, more relaxed parenting, from birth to preschool By Emily Oster https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/572658/cribsheet-by-emily-oster/ BUY BLACK OWNED FROM THESE BOOKSTORES ACROSS THE COUNTRY: https://lithub.com/you-can-order-today-from-these-black-owned-independent-bookstores/ PERINATAL RESOURCES: Learn about birthing advocacy, queer birth workers & full spectrum doulas https://www.instagram.com/birthingadvocacy/ Birth From The Earth, providing holistic well womb-man & midwifery care, childbirth ed, birth & postpartum care, lactation support, and birth worker training in NYC INFO: https://birthfromtheearth.vpweb.com FOLLOW: on Instagram @birthingplacebx DONATE HERE to the scholarship and indicate this is for The Amber Rose Isaac Access to Home Birth Scholarship: Venmo @Birthfromtheearth. DONATE HERE to the birth center: https://linktr.ee/birthingplacebx The Motherhood Center of NYC, providing care for perinatal mood & anxiety disorders, support groups and more https://www.themotherhoodcenter.com Planned Parenthood, always: https://www.plannedparenthood.org THE DOWN THERE: VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find resources from show notes, a transcript of an episode, or send us an email. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, accounts we

What is Electroconvulsive Therapy, or ECT? For some, it’s a safe and effective way to ease symptoms of clinical depression when medication isn’t enough. Join us for our conversation with Elizabeth, where they destigmatize and demystify this treatment through the lens of their own experience. Also in this episode: The relationship between mental health, emotional health, depression, and eating disorders. How to support eating and mental health. Staying accountable to your goals. Simple ways to show up for one another, and stay connected in isolation. RESOURCES: Project Heal breaks down systemic, healthcare, and financial barriers to eating disorder treatment. https://www.theprojectheal.org/ NEDA supports individuals and families affected by eating disorders, and serves as a catalyst for prevention, cures and access to quality care. https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/ The National Suicide Helpline: 800-273-8255, https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org THE DOWN THERE: VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of an episode, or send us an email. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, and much more https://www.instagram.com/thedowntherepodcast/ CREDITS: Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio Thanks for listening! xoxo TheDownThereTeam This episode is sponsored by Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Disclaimer: Health links are made available for educational purposes only, and should not be interpreted as medical advice. All health information should be discussed with your healthcare provider. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

A Unique First Period for a First Generation American Pirronne tells us about her upbringing as a first generation Iranian American, being the only middle eastern kid in predominantly white schools, a uniquely defining first period, and how those experiences shaped her relationship to her body and her menstrual cycle. Also in this episode: conservative Jewish ideology and practices, publicly embracing the power of your period, and not dimming your shine to make the dominant culture comfortable. Learn more about Pirronne and her work at pirronne.com Maia Directors is a consulting service for organizations and artists engaging with stories from the Middle East, North Africa, and South Asia (MENASA). Learn more at maiadirectors.com THE DOWN THERE: VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.comto learn more about our show, find a transcript of an episode, or send us an email. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, and much more https://www.instagram.com/thedowntherepodcast/ CREDITS: Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio VOTING RIGHTS: Donate & get involved with Fair Fight! fairfight.com Support The New Georgia Project! Find out more and donate at newgeorgiaproject.org Get involved & donate to Black Voters matter at blackvotersmatterfund.org Go to https://votesaveamerica.com/state/georgia/to take action, no mater where you are BLACK LIVES MATTER every day blacklivesmatter.com Thanks for listening! xoxo TheDownThereTeam This episode is sponsored by Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Why is weight-inclusive care important? Molly Hennighausen first remembers engaging in disordered eating behavior at age 9. Molly discusses Health At Every Size, the racist and sexist history of BMI, their treatment experience, how doctor's treated them differently in a larger body, and how to curate their world to prevent intrusive thoughts from sneaking in. While we do discuss eating disorders, specifically bulimia and anorexia, we do not go into detailed behaviors other than defining the diagnosis criteria. Also mentioned are GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease), Barrett's Esophagus, and how to push for more weight-inclusive care at the doctor's office. Visit Molly's photography website Outdoor Chronicles Photography HERE : https://www.outdoorchroniclesphotography.com Visit Molly's instagram Outdoor_Chronicles HERE https://www.instagram.com/outdoor_chronicles/ Read Molly's essay about shopping for a wedding dress and getting married while recovering from an eating disorder HERE https://www.outdoorchroniclesphotography.com/my-wedding-dress-didnt-fit For more information about Health At Every Size and Weight-Inclusive Care, Molly recommends: Reading Anti-Diet by Christy Harrison https://christyharrison.com/book-anti-diet-intuitive-eating-christy-harrison Listening to Christy Harrison's podcast Food Psych https://christyharrison.com/foodpsych Following @yrfatfriend on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/yrfatfriend/ Reading up on Weight Stigma in the Medical Field and stereotype-confirming research: https://dana.org/article/neuroethics-essay-academic-2020/ VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of an episode, or send us an email. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! @thedowntherepodcast for fun DownThere facts, info about our guests, and much more https://www.instagram.com/thedowntherepodcast/ CREDITS: Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio VOTING RIGHTS: Donate & get involved with Fair Fight! fairfight.com Support The New Georgia Project! Find out more and donate at newgeorgiaproject.org Get involved & donate to Black Voters matter at blackvotersmatterfund.org Thanks for listening! xoxo TheDownThereTeam This episode is sponsored by Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

What do storytelling, the healthcare industry and HPV all have in common? For Torrie Fields, Founder and CEO of Votive Health, the personal is political. Torrie designs serious illness programs for insurance companies and healthcare providers, and has dedicated her life to helping people get what they need out of healthcare. Torrie talks with host Caitlin about how serious illness has shaped her life, work, relationships, and why cervical cancer was the best thing that ever happened to her. Also in this episode: finding health insurance, getting healthcare professionals to listen to you, HPV, dating after a serious illness, a sexual awakening, and asking yourself what you want from your vagina. Watch Torrie’s Mystery Box Performance HERE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rkInpk8qvM Watch Torrie’s EndWell Conference talks: The Personal is Political https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VLWI3bP24g & What Does a Beautiful Death Look Like? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeXHxMhCdHg Torrie recommends reading A Beginner's Guide to the End: Practical Advice for Living Life and Facing Death By Dr BJ Miller for creating an end of life action plan, at any age. https://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-End-Practical-Advice/dp/1501157167 The End of Life Collective is a community of care givers and care seekers gathered in one place to help you and your family through life’s most important time. https://collective.round.glass/End-of-Life/about This episode is sponsored by Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app VOTING: Decide when and where you’ll vote this year at howto.vote Your one stop shop to get out the vote and volunteer votesaveamerica.com Souls to the Polls is a black lead organization that unites ministers and their congregations in Milwaukee’s central city to strengthen the voting power of the Black community. Learn more at https://actionnetwork.org/groups/souls-to-the-polls VISIT US! at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of this episode, or to get in touch. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM! at thedowntherepodcast for fun tidbits about the show, info about our guests, new episode drops, and much more. CREDITS: Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio Thanks for listening! xoxo TheDownThereTeam --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

What are IVF and IUI? Assisted reproductive technology is a common reality for many who are trying to conceive, though it’s rarely talked about in public, or even among one’s closest confidants. In this episode, we talk with Valérie and Jen about each step of their journeys with IUI and IVF, what to expect from the process, and how to keep self-care at the forefront when things get clinical. TAGS: IVF, IUI, Infertility, Reproductive Health, Conception, TTC, Pregnancy, Infertility Awareness, Fertility Treatment *CORRECTION* Valérie was 39 at the time of her egg retrieval, three month shy of turning 40. Jen mentioned "timed pregnancy" but meant "timed intercourse" describing her current method of trying to conceive. We sure hopes it results in pregnancy for her! Visit us at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of this episode, or to get in touch. Check out our Instagram thedowntherepodcast for fun tidbits about the show, info about our guests, new episode drops, and much more. What the Mayo Clinic has to say about IVF https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/in-vitro-fertilization/about/pac-20384716 and IUI https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/intrauterine-insemination/about/pac-20384722 To learn more about Jen Shyu and her work go to www.jenshyu.com Visit her Patreon page for exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/jenshyu To learn more about Valérie Thérèse Bart and her work go to http://valeriebart.com Birth From The Earth, providing holistic well womb-man & midwifery care, childbirth ed, birth & postpartum care, lactation support, and birth worker training INFO: https://birthfromtheearth.vpweb.com FOLLOW: on Instagram @birthingplacebx DONATE HERE to the scholarship and indicate this is for The Amber Rose Isaac Access to Home Birth Scholarship: Venmo @Birthfromtheearth DONATE HERE to the birth center: https://linktr.ee/birthingplacebx This episode is sponsored by Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app VOTING: Decide when and where you’ll vote this year at howto.vote Your one stop shop to get out the vote and volunteer votesaveamerica.com Everything you need to vote and get election reminders at vote.org Souls to the Polls is a black lead organization that unites ministers and their congregations in Milwaukee’s central city to strengthen the voting power of the Black community. Learn more at https://actionnetwork.org/groups/souls-to-the-polls CREDITS: Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio Thanks for listening! xoxo TheDownThereTeam --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

What is the difference between top surgery and mastectomy? Just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to these similar surgeries done for very different reasons. In this episode Calvin who identifies as queer and trans-masculine talks with K, a cis woman who is BRCA positive, about the differences between top surgery and mastectomy, their hysterectomy experiences, living in radically changing bodies, the power of language to other or affirm one’s identity, and so much more. Also in this episode: Taking hormones (testosterone and estrogen), chest binders, breast implants, trans identity, gender affirmation, scars, Sex and pleasure post surgery, vaginal cuffs, communication with intimate partners, and one apocalypse ovary. Visit us at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of this episode, or to get in touch. Check out our Instagram thedowntherepodcast for fun tidbits about the show, info about our guests, and new episode drops. Check out K’s woman owned creators shop All of The Things NYC on Etsy  https://www.etsy.com/shop/allofthethingsNYC Follow them on Instagram @allofthethingsnyc  https://www.instagram.com/allofthethingsnyc/ For more information about the BRCA gene, hereditary cancers, and to help those affected, visit facingourrisk.org A national non-profit dedicated to improving the lives of individuals and families affected by hereditary breast, ovarian, and related cancers. Learn about Theater of the Oppressed and how they use theater as a tool for social change; from internalized oppression to legislative action. http://www.mandalaforchange.com/site/applied-theatre/theatre-of-the-oppressed/ This episode is sponsored by Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app CREDITS: Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Guest Editing on this episode: Sinan Zafar Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Logo Design: Jean Kim Studio Thanks for listening! xoxo TheDownThereTeam Disclaimer: Health links are made available for educational purposes only. This information should not be interpreted as medical advice. All health information should be discussed with your health care provider. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

What does it mean to have a BRCA mutation? When K found out that she is a carrier of a genetic mutation of the BRCA 1 gene or BRCA, which is correlated with a significant risk of breast and ovarian cancer, she opened up to her community and asked her friends for help as she underwent risk management surgery. In this candid conversation, K shares her story about learning she is BRCA positive and her physical, mental, and emotional journey with a double mastectomy with reconstruction, and hysterectomy. Also in this episode: navigating a changing body, self-image and femininity, communication with intimate partners, hormones, self-advocacy within the healthcare system, and the most unique incentive to quit smoking. TIME STAMPS: 10:30 BRACA Diagnosis 14:25 Mastectomy Description 18:25 Breast Expander Experience 29:00 Hysterectomy Definition 39:20 Hysterectomy Post Opp side effects and experiences Check out K’s woman owned creators shop All of The Things NYC on Etsy https://www.etsy.com/shop/allofthethingsNYC Follow them on Instagram @allofthethingsnyc https://www.instagram.com/allofthethingsnyc/ For more information about hereditary cancers, and to help those affected visit facingourrisk.org Visit https://its-elemental.com to learn more about their thermal bras for previvors and survivors. NYU Langone Perlmuter Center support groups: Here Information about BRCA 1/2 mutations from the top of the episode were compiled from the following resources: National Breast Cancer Foundation, American Cancer Society, and Mayo Clinic. Visit us at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find episode transcripts, or to get in touch. Check out our Instagram @thedowntherepodcast https://www.instagram.com/thedowntherepodcast/ for new episode drops, info about our guests, and fun tidbits! Like the podcast? Rate the podcast on I Tunes! CREDITS: Host: Caitlin Smith Rapoport Music, Sound Design, Editing: Kate Marvin Producers: Molly Hennighausen, Caitlin Smith Rapoport Design: Jean Kim Studio Thanks for listening! Xoxo

What is a normal period? Are periods meant to hurt? For a decade, Gemma sought answers from medical professionals about the cause of her heavy and irregular cycles. Unsatisfied and underwhelmed with the options presented to her, Gemma took matters into her own hands. In this episode, Gemma Barry founder of the Well Woman Project discusses how her work as a menstrual mentor, herbalist, and mizan massage therapist empowers period havers to take charge of their own menstrual health. To learn more about Gemma Barry and her work visit thewellwomanproject.com , listen to her podcast Lost In Menstruation or check out her instagram well_woman_project Visit us at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of this episode, or to get in touch. Check out our Instagram thedowntherepodcast for new episode drops and fun tidbits. Thanks for listening! xoxo TheDownThereTeam

What is TheDownThere? It's not just what's in our proverbial pants. It's a space to share personal stories. We discuss the things we don't talk mention in polite society in order to remove the stigma from talking about the things we keep hidden "down there". Visit us at thedowntherepodcast.com to learn more about our show, find a transcript of this episode, or to get in touch. Check out our Instagram thedowntherepodcast for new episode drops and fun tidbits. Thanks for listening! Xoxo TheDownThereTeam