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Unexpected Points takes a look at the NFL through a uniquely analytical lens and challenges our assumptions about the game. Each week, PFF data scientist Kevin Cole discusses the topical and macro issues affecting football.

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    BELICHICK TO UNC, 49ERS IN DISARRAY, VIEWER Q&A

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2024 49:55


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unexpectedpoints.com/subscribe

    NFL WEEK 14 REVIEW & ANALYSIS

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2024 57:15


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unexpectedpoints.com/subscribe

    LIONS-PACKERS REVIEW; LISTENER MAILBAG Q&A

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2024 38:09


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unexpectedpoints.com/subscribe

    WEEK 13 REVIEW, NFL'S BEST TEAM?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2024 65:29


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    WEEK 12 REVIEW; SAQUON MVP?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2024 63:19


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    JOE DOUGLAS FIRED, UPDATED POWER RANKINGS

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2024 66:09


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    WEEK 10 REVIEW; SHANE WALDRON FIRED

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2024 62:00


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    WEEK 9 REVIEW & STORYLINES W/ JOSH HERMSMEYER

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2024 78:00


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    RICHARDSON BENCHED, WEEK 9 POWER RANKINGS

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2024 56:37


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    WEEK 7 REVIEW W/ JOSH HERMSMEYER

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2024 71:02


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    NFL WEEK 6 REVIEW; DAVANTE ADAMS TRADE

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2024 68:59


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    WEEK 5 REVIEW; ROBERT SALAH FIRED

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2024 70:01


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    NFL'S BIGGEST QUESTIONS W/ JOSH HERMSMEYER

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2024 65:05


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    SOLO POD: WEEK 4 ADVANCED REVIEW

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2024 63:17


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    NFL DEFENSES ARE WINNING W/ CODY ALEXANDER

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2024 26:33


    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.unexpectedpoints.comFollow Cody Alexander on Twitter.Subscribe to Cody's substack: MatchQuarters

    NFL WEEK 3 REVIEW & INSIGHTS W/ JOSH HERMSMEYER

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2024 65:55


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    NFL PASSING GAME OFFICIALLY DEAD?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2024 74:00


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    NFL WEEK 2 REVIEW: BUY, SELL, HOLD

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2024 61:12


    Find all of Josh's work and Buy Low Model at Air Yards This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unexpectedpoints.com/subscribe

    TNF DOLPHINS-BILLS REVIEW, WEEK 2 PREVIEW

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2024 26:33


    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.unexpectedpoints.com

    WEEK 1 RECAP: BUY, SELL OR HOLD

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2024 65:24


    Find Josh's Buy Low model on his substack This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unexpectedpoints.com/subscribe

    TNF CHIEFS-RAVENS REVIEW & WEEK 1 POWER RANKINGS

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2024 26:33


    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.unexpectedpoints.comYou can watch the entire episode for free on the Unexpected Points YouTube channel.

    WEEK 1 NFL QUARTERBACK RANKINGS

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2024 76:51


    See the Week 1 NFL quarterback rankings based on Bayesian updating and adjusted EPA efficiency. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unexpectedpoints.com/subscribe

    AIYUK GETS PAID. TRENT WILLIAMS NEXT?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2024 26:33


    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.unexpectedpoints.comWatch the whole podcast on the Unexpected Points YouTube channel.

    SOLO POD: WATSON RESTRUCTURE & NFL CAP ALCHEMY

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2024 36:50


    The latest Deshaun Watson restructure gives us an opportunity to talk about the emerging financial alchemy teams are employing, especially with quarterback contracts. I talk through how the Watson deal and general restructures allow teams to roster slightly better teams overall, due to the compounding rise of cap cost and shifting burdens into the future. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.com/subscribe

    NFL QUARTERBACK TIERS W/ THE ATHLETIC'S MIKE SANDO

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2024 26:33


    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.comFind the full pod for free on the Unexpected Points YouTube channel.Read Mike's QB Tiers article and follow him on twitter.

    SHOULD DRAKE MAYE START? CEEDEE LAMB EXTENSION

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2024 70:23


    Josh Hermsmeyer joins the pod for the weekly livestream to talk:* If Drake Maye should start, and generally what we learn from the preseason* How the Cowboys played the last few drafts so poorly at WR and lost all leverage with CeeDee Lamb* A bet on the kick-return rate for the 2024: Herms takes under 40%, Kevin takes the over* Strong analysis from the NFL's Michael Lopez and Tom Bliss on the minimal benefit of bye weeks during the regular season This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.com/subscribe

    PRESEASON WEEK 2 ANALYTICAL QB REVIEW

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2024 40:03


    Kevin digs into the advanced stats, worries and hopes for * The Steelers QB “battle” between Russell Wilson and Justin Fields* All the top QB picks in 2024* Is Caleb Williams playing as well as his social media highlights?* Jayden Daniels adjusted to a very different Kliff Kingsbury scheme* Drake Maye showing a lot of promise with big throws* Bo Nix continuing to lead the most efficiency offense of the preseason This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.com/subscribe

    ETR'S MIKE LEONE TALKS JJ MCCARTHY INJURY & 2024 FANTASY PROJECTIONS

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2024 26:33


    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.comProjections guru Mike Leone of Establish the Run joins the pod to talk through* The JJ McCarthy injury, what it means for his future and the more immediate implications for his teammates* We also discuss Mike's process forming seasonal and weekly projections* What are the most common mistakes making mental projections* How often he uses intuition or his gut to …

    DIGESTING THE PRESEASON: SHOULD ROOKIE QBs START WEEK 1?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2024 67:38


    Kevin discusses the (little) meaningful information from Week 1 of the NFL preseason Plus, he explain how to best decide on Week 1 starters with competing veterans of less caliber, or when a top-12 rookie is in the mix. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.com/subscribe

    BRANDON AIYUK: WILL HE STAY OR GO?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2024 61:06


    Kevin and Josh talk the potential trade of Brandon Aiyuk:* Should the 49ers deal him?* Which team is in best position to get him?* Quantifying his value for contending and rebuilding teams? This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.com/subscribe

    NERDS LOST THE PLOT IN FANTASY FOOTBALL? W/ BEN GRETCH

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2024 101:43


    Ben Gretch (@YardsPerGretch) of Stealing Signals joins me to talk:* How the tried-and-true strategies of yesteryear are working out in fantasy football now.* Whether we've become too fixated on the aggregate, stats-based analysis versus looking at talent* A bunch of ADPs for players that don't make sense* Take questions on the YouTube LiveStream This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.com/subscribe

    BIG QB CONTRACTS: HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2024 26:33


    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.comWhat should we be thinking about the Tua Tagovailoa and Jordan Love deals? We discuss those contracts, plus the larger QB market and NFL team-building.Find more research from Josh on his substack, including the DFS player's favorite “Buy Low” Model.You can watch the pod taping live and ask questions in the comments on YouTube every Tuesday at 1pm ET.

    Predicting the 2024 NFL Season W/ ClevTA

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2024 102:56


    Gambler and all-around insightful commentator ClevTA (@ClevTA) joins the pod to talk: * Process of building out offseason predictions * Which teams we like more/less than the market* Which teams project better/worse by our models than even we believe* Player futures: MVP, etcCheck out ClevTA's website and FREE 2024 Preview This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.com/subscribe

    NEW NFL KICKOFF RULE & MEASURING HOME-FIELD ADVANTAGE

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2024 75:05


    The first of (hopefully) many weekly livestreams with joining Kevin to discuss the latest analytical topics affecting the NFL, plus all the usual football talk from a smarter perspective.Find more research from Josh on his substack, including the DFS player's favorite “Buy Low” Model.You can watch the pod taping live and ask questions in the comments on YouTube every Tuesday at 1pm ET. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.com/subscribe

    WIR: FILM BREAKDOWN CONTENT TAKEOVER

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2024 46:33


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    WIR POD: BILL JAMES VS COMPUTER GUYS

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2024 51:44


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    WIR: QB CLUTCHNESS, SUBSCRIBER Q&A

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2024 74:20


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    Bryce Young's Future & GMs Dish on Roster Building

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2024 74:22


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    WIR: Justin Jefferson & Christian McCaffrey Contracts, (the other) football talk

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2024 67:07


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    WIR Solo Pod: WR Contracts, Beane Interview, Q&A

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2024 62:19


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    WIR Solo Pod: Why scoring is down, WR contracts, QB prospect success, Q&A

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2024 65:28


    * Why is scoring down so much in recent seasons?* What are we hearing that has actual signal* The history of success for quarterbacks by draft position, and what it means for the 2023 and 2024 classes.You can watch along here: This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit unexpectedpoints.substack.com/subscribe

    WIR Pod: Schedule Release, Goff Contract, Macdonald Defense

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2024 89:37


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