With the 2nd Pick, Steve Francis

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A podcast by two Vancouver journalists and former Grizzlies fans, recapping some of the greatest games of the NBA's least successful franchise.

Jeremy Allingham & Justin McElroy


    • Aug 14, 2023 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 39m AVG DURATION
    • 20 EPISODES


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    Return to Sender: Shareef mauls Mailman (Grizzlies vs Jazz - December 28, 1997)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2023 59:30


    Shareef Abdur-Rahim puts one on creepy Karl Malone and carries the squad through an epic 4th quarter. John Stockton reminds us why he's a GOATed PG. Not even lying, the Big Special Boy plays all of the first 36 minutes! Sam Mack treats us to an offensive outburst. Antonio Daniels continues to delight and dismay. Stu still doing Stu things (bad). 

    Bonus - Vancouver Bandits Coach and GM Kyle Julius

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2023 19:26


    Reef, the Big Boi and even Stu take a quick rest as we detour into the world of the Canadian Elite Basketball League (CEBL). The Vancouver Bandits are set to tip off their season. We talk to coach and GM Kyle Julius his return to the Bandits' bench, the team's biggest stars, the Elam Ending, Championship Weekend in Langley and Blue Edwards' kid playing in the CEBL! Also! We're giving away tickets to the Bandits' home opener.

    Otis Gets His Revenge as AD Shows a Flash of Brilliance (Grizzlies vs Pistons -- November 30, 1997)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2023 55:45


    The Grizz storm the Palace at Auburn Hills. Antonio Daniels looks atrocious but recovers for a memorable moment. Otis Thorpe and the bench mob dominate. We've reached the peak of Mayberry Mountain! The Brian Williams/Bison Dele story is...disquieting. The big special boy puts in some good work. Lindsey Hunter gets his hand stuck in a folding chair. Grant Hill chokes. Jeremy seethes when Justin attempts to do a positive 'What Did Stu Do Now?'. But they're still friends. 

    New Look Grizz Come Out Firing in Dallas (Grizzlies vs Mavericks - November 4, 1997)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2023 51:45


    Shareef looks like a dang all-star and then doesn't. Please enjoy the Otis Thorpe Experience™ (for a limited time only!). In a related matter, Stu makes (another) one of his all-time, pit-of-despair blunders. Dennis Scott and Michael Finley have the Grizzlies seeing stars and some guy says the Mavs are going 97-0. BONUS: Jeremy meets and gambles with Gary Payton, while Justin obtains a piece of holy grail Grizzlies memorabilia. Something for everyone, really.

    Stu at the 1997 Draft: A Grave and Grievous Error (June 25, 1997)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2022 44:35


    Tim Duncan would've changed everything, but the Grizz couldn't have him. Thanks, Stern. The draft was weak and, sure, the Antonio Daniels pick was fine. Ho hum.  But! Much more interestingly!! History-altering fate once again knocks at Stu Jackson's door. Will he answer? 

    Bonus - Interview with former Grizzlies forward George Lynch

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2022 6:35


    George Lynch played 123 games for the Grizzlies between 1996 and 1998. In that time, he logged 8 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal in 21 minutes per game. Lynch on the relentless losing in Vancouver: "It was tough. My entire little league, college, high school...until I got to the NBA...I probably hadn't lost more than 60 games in the entirety. Then you get here and you lose 60 games in one season. That's a lot of losing." 

    Season Two Wrap - 'The Grizzlie Truth' Director Kat Jayme

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2022 50:37


    Jeremy and Justin finish up the 1996-97 season by handing out the hardware for worst take, best remembering, biggest disappointment and MVP. Then, writer/director Kat Jayme joins the podcast for an in-depth interview on her new film 'The Grizzlie Truth'. (She swears we're in it!)

    A Glimpse of Greatness: Grizz Face 18-year-old Kobe Bryant (Grizzlies vs. Lakers - February 21, 1997)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2022 38:13


    Kobe shows a flash of future greatness. Shaq sits. Chick Hearn insists Shareef should be Rookie of the Year. G-Money returns to form, but crumbles when it matters most. Big Country gets owned in the post by...everyone. Lord Byron gets his revenge. 

    Stu Fires Winters, AP Drops a 40-piece (Grizzlies vs. Nets - February 4, 1997)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2022 36:42


    Brian Winters is out. Stu says the Grizz need to "attain another culture", but it seems like the same old. Anthony Peeler can't miss a jumper and puts Shawn Bradley on a poster. Kerry Kittles dominates with a career high. 

    Reef Shows Out in Cali (Grizzlies vs Warriors - January 8, 1997)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2021 38:05


    Shareef drops 34 in his return home to California. G-Money is back in the saddle with a near dub-dub. Big Country puts up nice numbers, but there's a lot of empty calories there. Reef vs. Joe Smith is set to become the Barkley vs. Malone of the 2000's and beyond. 

    The Grizz Beat the Best Team in the League (Grizzlies vs Rockets - December 17, 1996)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2021 36:12


    Reef plays like a seasoned vet. The Big Guy comes through in the clutch. David slays Goliath. If the Grizz beat the best team in the league, does that mean...they're...the best team in the league?

    Country Dominates the Hapless Spurs (Grizzlies vs Spurs - December 6, 1996)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2021 36:07


    The 1996-97 season is off to a brutal start, but you wouldn't know it from this excellent, all-around team performance. Shareef shows off some signature moves. Peeler is stroking from mid-range. And fans get the Big Country vs. Will Perdue marquee matchup they've been anxiously awaiting.   

    The Shareef Draft (June 26, 1996)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2021 53:41


    Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, and Ray Allen watch from the green room as the Grizzlies select Shareef Abdur-Rahim 3rd overall in the most stacked draft in NBA history. Justin goes into a tailspin wondering why the Grizzlies didn't trade for Nash at #15. Jeremy builds his ongoing Grizzlies fantasy roster which now includes Greg Ostertag AND the Junkyard Dog. 

    Season One Wrap with the First Grizz Owner

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2021 43:00


    Former Vancouver Grizzlies owner Arthur Griffiths joins the show. He raises important questions like 'what if the Grizzlies were actually an arena football team?' and 'what if the Grizzlies didn't get completely screwed by the expansion rules?'. Justin and Jeremy hand out their season one awards.

    Finally, A Good Country Game (Grizzlies vs Hawks - March 20, 1996)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2021 31:29


    In the midst of one of the longest losing streaks in NBA history, Country shows up big against the Hawks. But the Grizz D has to cope with a scorching 4th quarter performance from Steve Smith. 

    Blue at the Buzzer! (Grizzlies vs 76ers - January 6, 1996)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2021 35:22


    Scott Skiles retires pre-game in Vancouver. G-Money delivers a commanding performance. Blue Edwards hits the improbable game-winner in overtime on an even more improbable pass from the Big Guy. 

    The Big Country Draft (June 28, 1995)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2021 38:12


    The Grizzlies take Big Country with their first ever entry draft pick. But was it as bad a pick as everyone remembers? Well, yes. But not for the reason you're thinking. 

    Glove and Reign Man Come to Vancouver (Grizzlies vs SuperSonics - December 19, 1995)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2021 40:02


    The powerhouse SuperSonics visit GM Place. Gary Payton is wheeling and dealing. Blue Edwards is on one. Big Country huffs and puffs his way through 45 (!) minutes on the floor.

    The Jordan Game (Grizzlies vs Bulls - November 30, 1995)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2020 40:36


    Michael Jordan debuts in Vancouver, floats for three quarters, and then eviscerates the Grizzlies with 19 points in seven minutes after Darrick Martin smack talks him. Justin and Jeremy wonder, "why, Darrick? WHY?!".

    The First Home Game (Grizzlies vs Timberwolves - November 5, 1995)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2020 37:38


    Is it possible that the pinnacle of the Vancouver Grizzlies franchise came in its second game ever? In the premier episode, Justin and Jeremy relive the glory of the Chris King OT putback. 

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