Podcast appearances and mentions of linda jakobson

In the second half of this double episode with China expert Linda Jakobson, the conversation takes a broader focus. Allan begins with Taiwan, which has been in the headlines lately: how should we think about the dangers? What would it take for Beijing to use military force to resolve the situation? The bulk of the episode is about the Australia-China relationship. How does Linda interpret the decline in bilateral relations—how much is it Australia’s ‘fault’ and how much is it China’s? What is the pathway forward? Linda offers her view, and then Darren and Allan provide their own assessments. Has China made up its mind about Australia? Finally, how can the West influence China and shape its choices? Is the deterrence/engagement binary a useful frame for thinking about the options? As always, we invite our listeners to email us at this address: australia.world.pod [at] gmail.com We welcome feedback, requests and suggestions. You can also contact Darren on twitter @limdarrenj We thank AIIA intern Dominique Yap for help with research and audio editing, and Rory Stenning for composing our theme music. Relevant links Linda Jakobson,  “Why should Australia be concerned about… rising tensions in the Taiwan Strait?”, China Matters Explores February 2021, https://chinamatters.org.au/policy-brief/policy-brief-february-2021/ Linda Jakobson, ”What do we do when Beijing turns heat up on Taiwan?” Australian Financial Review, 9 February 2021: https://chinamatters.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/09.02.21-Linda-Jakobson-What-do-we-do-when-Beijing-turns-up-heat-on-Taiwan.pdf Asialink podcast, “John Howard Reflects on the China Challenge and Trump's Legacy”, 15 Nov 2020: https://asialink.unimelb.edu.au/insights/asialink-milestones-john-howard-reflects-on-the-china-challenge-and-the-trump-legacy Elliott Zaagman, “A rare test for China diplomacy”, Lowy Interpreter, 18 May 2021: https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/rare-test-china-diplomacy

Allan and Darren welcome Linda Jakobson to the podcast. Linda is a leading China expert, and a vital voice in Australia’s own China debate. The conversation spans almost 100 minutes and will be released in two parts. At a time when the bilateral relationship is at a fresh low, this double episode offers genuine substance and depth on how one should understand China, diagnose the deterioration in Australia-China relations, and chart a pathway forward. Linda is the founding director (and currently deputy chair) of the not-for-profit China Matters, an independent Australian policy institute (Allan sits on its Board of Directors). Linda lived and worked for over 20 years in China, including as the Beijing-based Director of the China and Global Security Programme at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI). She moved to Australia in 2011 to serve as Program Director (East Asia) at the Lowy Institute, and in 2015 she founded China Matters and was its first CEO until 2019. The focus in Part 1 is China itself. However, the conversation begins with Linda’s own personal story. Being Finnish, Allan wonders what Finland’s experience neighbouring a major power can teach Australia, while Darren asks whether Linda sees similarities between Finland’s approach and strategies in the region – are there “Finlands” in Asia? Turning to China itself, how has Linda’s understanding of China changed? And who is “China” when asking this question? Linda answers the question from different perspectives. Is China exceptional in what it wants? The conversation turns to domestic politics. What is the range of views inside the country on the direction China is taking? To what extent is there pushback against Xi Jinping’s approach, and what could be the mechanisms through which change comes? How big is China’s political elite, anyway? And how can observers even answer these questions, given the increasingly closed nature of the Chinese system. Is “Pekingology” going to resemble Kremlinology? Stay tuned for Part 2 of the conversation! As always, we invite our listeners to email us at this address: australia.world.pod [at] gmail.com We welcome feedback, requests and suggestions. You can also contact Darren on twitter @limdarrenj We thank AIIA intern Dominique Yap for help with research and audio editing, and Rory Stenning for composing our theme music. Relevant links Linda’s biography: http://lindajakobson.com/?page_id=74 Linda Jakobson, “What does China want? Xi Jinping and the path to greatness”, Australian Foreign Affairs, Issue 1, 18 Oct 2017:  https://chinamatters.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/What-does-China-want-Linda-Jakobson-Australian-Foreign-Affairs-Issue-1.pdf Natasha Kassam and Darren Lim, “How China is remaking the world in its vision”. Extract from chapter in Australian Foreign Affairs, The Conversation, 22 Feb 2021: https://theconversation.com/how-china-is-remaking-the-world-in-its-vision-155377 Melissa Conley Tyler and Julian Dusting, “What should Australia do about…its foreign interference and espionage laws?” China Matters Explores, May 2021: https://chinamatters.org.au/policy-brief/policy-brief-may-2021/ Nick Bisley, “China drops the mask on its global ambition”, The Lowy Interpreter, 22 Apr 2021: https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/china-drops-mask-its-global-ambition Max Suich, “China confrontation: What were we thinking?” Australian Financial Review, 28 May 2021, https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/china-confrontation-what-were-we-thinking-20210429-p57njs Max Suich, “How Australia got badly out in front on China,” Australian Financial Review, 27 May 2021, https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/how-australia-got-badly-out-in-front-on-china-20210428-p57n8x Victor Shih and Young Yang, “The Make-up of the CCP Elite”, China Data Lab, 19 May 2021: chinadatalab.ucsd.edu/viz-blog/the-makeup-of-the-ccp-elite/

On this episode we speak with Linda Jakobson, Founding Director and CEO of China Matters, to help make sense of the evolving Australia-China landscape. We look at the prospects for the bilateral relationship in 2019, what Australia’s new China narrative should look like, the trade war, Belt and Road, Australia’s current level of China literacy and which country Linda believes is best-practice in managing its China relationship.

As China’s rise continues and the US retreats, do our strategic interests lie in a positive alignment with our region’s traditional power? Could an alliance between Australia and China be founded on shared interests – despite underlying cultural and political differences? Zhao Hai, Linda Jakobson, Adam Ni put these questions to debate at the 2018 Festival of Dangerous Ideas on Cockatoo Island. The panel was chaired by Jason Yat-sen Li.

China’s expansive claims in the South China Sea have emerged as the testing ground for great power competition between the US and China, and as a lightning rod for rival claimants in the region, as well as Australia and Japan, to assert their own maritime rights. Lowy Institute Senior Fellow Richard McGregor moderated a panel with other pre-eminent experts on the South China Sea – Wu Shicun, of the National Institute for South China Sea Studies, Linda Jakobson, of China Matters, and Professor Benjamin Schreer of Macquarie University – where they discussed the controversy.

John Fitzgerald, Richard McGregor and Linda Jakobson join Geraldine Doogue to discuss tensions in the relationship between Australia and China.

Universities in Australia have an addiction: overseas student fees. Nearly half of overseas students in Australia are from China, rising to 60% at some institutions. Against the backdrop of new legislation to counter foreign influence, we talk to Chinese students, who find themselves caught in a geopolitical battle—accused by some of acting as ‘spies' and restricting intellectual freedom in Australia's classrooms, while others fear those student revenues are becoming a tool of China's economic coercion. Louisa and Graeme and joined by Linda Jakobson of China Matters and Fran Martin from the University of Melbourne to discuss the future of Australia's third largest export.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on Uncommon Sense, Linda Jakobson, Founding Director and CEO ofChina Matters, joined host Amy Mullins to talk about her article inAustralian Foreign Affairs'What Does China Want? Xi Jinping and the Path to Greatness'. Professor Brendan Wintle fromThe University of Melbournecame in to talk about the biggest threat to Australia's native species habitat loss (often caused by land clearing). Actor Joe Petruzzi chatted with Amy about his role in the one-hander play atRed Stitch Actors' Theatre,'American Song', by playwright Joanna Murray-Smith. Plus, New Matilda's Ben Eltham discussed the latest in federal politics.

On this special Uncommon Sense podcast, Linda Jakobson, Founding Director and CEO ofChina Matters, joined Amy Mullins to talk about her article inAustralian Foreign Affairs'What Does China Want? Xi Jinping and the Path to Greatness'.

Australia and China face a new era, but are we ready? Australia’s prosperity and security are linked to China as never before. But what kind of a country is China becoming? Will its demand for Australian goods and services increase? Can the Communist Party continue to keep the middle class satisfied while cracking down on political freedoms? How will China use its economic and military might, especially if challenged by President Trump? In partnership with China Matters and La Trobe Asia, La Trobe University Press is pleased to present the launch of China Matters: Getting It Right For Australia by Bates Gill and Linda Jakobson.

Australia has a relationship of mutual respect on the surface, but there are also deep concerns about the broader consequences of China's return as a great power. Linda Jakobson, John Lee, Bob Carr and Geoff Raby discuss the complex relationship, the recent fall of the Chinese economy and its repercussions for Australia, and the implications of the highly controversial Free Trade Agreement. Introduced by Professor Nick Bisley, Executive Director of La Trobe University. Copyright 2015 La Trobe University, all rights reserved. Please contact for permissions.

A number of high profile incidents have highlighted the contested territory of the South China Seas, most provocatively China's significant land reclamation and construction activties. In this episode of Asia Rising, Linda Jakobson (Founding Director of China Matters) talks to Professor Nick Bisley (La Trobe Asia, La Trobe University) about China's controversial activities in the east and south china seas. Copyright 2015 La Trobe University, all rights reserved. Please contact for permissions.

A number of high profile incidents have highlighted the contested territory of the South China Seas, most provocatively China's significant land reclamation and construction activties. In this episode of Asia Rising, Linda Jakobson (Founding Director of China Matters) talks to Professor Nick Bisley (La Trobe Asia, La Trobe University) about China's controversial activities in the east and south china seas. Copyright 2015 La Trobe University, all rights reserved. Please contact for permissions.

The intentions behind China's activities in the South China Sea and East China Sea are the source of considerable debate in Australia, in the region, and around the world. China asserts it is peacefully protecting its historic sovereignty. Many Western analysts fear that China is aggressively attempting to become the predominant power in the region. However, despite heated discussion, it is difficult to say with certainty what China is aiming to achieve, or what the implications and unintended consequences might be. On 19 May Lowy Nonresident Fellows Bonnie Glaser and Linda Jakobson and East Asia Program Director Merriden Varrall examined of the motivations behind China's activities in the maritime arena, drawing on their many years of experience working on China's foreign policy.

Linda Jakobson chats with James Reilly about his new Lowy Institute analysis paper 'China's economic statecraft', published on 27 November 2013. The paper is available here: http://www.lowyinstitute.org/publications/chinas-economic-statecraft-0

On 24 September 2013 the Lowy Institute and the Asan Institute for Policy Studies hosted a workshop in Seoul entitled 'Northeast Asian Political and Security Dynamics in Flux'. Following the event, the Director of the Lowy Institute's East Asia Program, Linda Jakobson, spoke with Hahm Chaibong, President of the Asan Institute for Policy Studies, about China-South Korea relations. Information about the workshop is available here: http://www.lowyinstitute.org/events/seoul-workshop-northeast-asian-political-and-security-dynamics-flux

On 20 September 2013 the Lowy Institute hosted a workshop in Beijing on political and security relations between China and South Korea, China and Japan as well as the broader dynamics in Northeast Asia as viewed from Australia. Following the workshop the Lowy Institute's Linda Jakobson spoke with Dr Kang Choi, Vice President of Asan Institute for Policy Studies. Topics include China-South Korea relations and South Korean perspectives on the US rebalance to Asia. More information on the workshop is available here: http://www.lowyinstitute.org/events/northeast-asian-political-and-security-dynamics-flux

Linda Jakobson discusses Chinese investment with Andrew Michelmore, CEO of MMG Limited, at the Lowy Institute's first Changing China Lecture in Beijing. Mr Michelmore answers questions on how the new government should address concerns over Chinese investment to the broader Australian public as well as the challenges he faces interacting with both China and Australia in his capacity as CEO of a large metal firm.

On 4 September 2013 Linda Jakobson, East Asia Program Director at the Lowy Institute, spoke at length with former Fairfax Media China correspondent John Garnaut on the future direction of the Communist Party in China.

On 15 August 2013 Linda Jakobson presented her 'China Changing Lecture'. Linda evaluated the first six months of Chinese foreign policy under President Xi Jinping and assessed the implications of China’s new proactive diplomacy.