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Ever wondered about a career in cybersecurity? Look no further. This week, Mel and Ollie get the inside scoop with Chris Poulter, founder at OSINT Combine, a company offering Open Source Intelligence tools and training. If you want to contact Chris to learn more about open-source intelligence or the training OSINT Combine offers, hit him up through his Linkedin. Chris Poulter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-poulter/ If you or someone you know wants to share their story with other veterans and us, get into contact with Mel or Ollie today through their Linkedin. Oliver Pollasky: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-pollasky-550038174/ Mel O'Sullivan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melosullivan/ #Befierce #withyouwithme #techdveteran --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

This week Mel and Ollie speak to Kellie Davis – A RAAF Air Combat Officer and Veteran, now an Associate Manager at BCT Solutions, part of Accenture and Accenture Australia. In this episode, Kellie talks about Veteran skills that make them incredibly valuable for roles within tech, and gives us an insight into WithYouWithMe’s partnership with Accenture and what that means for our Veterans. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Want to hear from veterans having real success in industry? Episode 5 of season 3 the Tech’d Veteran is now live! This season focuses on interviews with veterans who are disrupting and striving in technology. If you need a confidence boost or some motivation to get through your training listen to it now! This episode features Tristan Steventon Tristan is ex-ADF and after discharging started StevTech. StevTech brings the best of the worlds agricultural technologies to Australian farmers. It's main technologies include drones and data analysis. Both Mel and Ollie are huge nerds when it comes to food security and Agtech so this was a really great episode to film! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Joshua Mason is a Cyber Guru. While in the USAF Joshua pivoted from being a pilot, into cyber security and then finally into teaching cyber. After his military career he continued with his passion for teaching and started teaching cyber security again. I wish I had a teacher like Josh while I was going through school. This episode is a must-listen for anyone thinking about getting into cyber - in particular digital forensics. Joshua is a great guy and was awesome to have him on the show. You can find him here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuacmason/ If you think of anyone who might be great to be a guest on this show, reach out and dob them in to Mel or Ollie now! Mel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melosullivan/ Ollie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-pollasky-550038174/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Have you ever wondered about a career in Robotics Process Automation? This week Mel and Oliver talk to Mathew Prasad - Former Army and now back in Army reserves working in Automation. Mat was an absolute legend to talk to and if anyone is interested at all in RPA listen to this episode! Mathew Prasad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-prasad-gdipmgt-maicd-b6b51163/ Oliver Pollasky: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-pollasky-550038174/ Mel O'Sullivan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melosullivan/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

What makes soil sexy and what the hell does it have to do with veterans in tech? Welcome back to season 3 of the befierce podcast the Tech’d Veteran! This season focuses on interviews with veterans who are disrupting and striving in technology. If you need a confidence boost or some motivation to get through your training listen to it now! This week Mel and I interview Sam Duncan. Sam is former Airforce and is founder of agtech company Farm Lab. Farm Lab helps farmers keep a digital account of their soil health and tackles big issues such as climate change. You can find Sam here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swduncan/ Hosts: Mel O Sullivan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melosullivan/ Oliver Pollasky: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-pollasky-550038174/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Want to hear from veterans having real success in industry? This week we launched the first episode of season 3 of the befierce podcast the Tech’d Veteran! This season focuses on interviews with veterans who are disrupting and striving in technology. If you need a confidence boost or some motivation to get through your training listen to it now! Episode one features an interview with our co host: Mel O'Sullivan. Mel is an Ex Army veteran and is now utilising data to benefit both her rural community and other veterans in the WYWM community as an associate instructor! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Matt is an Aussie Army Veteran with no background in IT. Yet, he transitioned into the cybersecurity industry. He believes that everyone can become a tech guru by learning digital skills - Break things and then fix them! Do you want to launch yourself into the emerging tech industry too? Hear Matt's story in the interview now. We are going to show you how you too, can launch yourself into the industry through Trial and Error! Come and check out the BeFierce Podcast series! Anchor and other quality podcast platforms: https://hubs.ly/H0rndFN0 Youtube: https://hubs.ly/H0rnbDS0 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

This episode we met with Alex Duffy, who is an associate instructor at WYWM and ex-Army has a passion for making tech fun. Alex shares his journey and his desire to help others along their journey to reach their potential in the tech industry. Come and check out the podcast series! Anchor: https://hubs.ly/H0rndFN0 Youtube: https://hubs.ly/H0rnbDS0 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

This week we had the pleasure of hosting another one of our Associate Instructors and Canadian Veteran Chapter Leads Caleb Walker. Still serving in the military, Caleb dedicates his time to other CAF military veterans and the wider community. Come and here how he is helping solve upstream problems before they become downstream ones! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

This week our host got to speak with an Australian veteran that has transitioned into a career in Data after being initially daunted about the prospect. We introduce Mel O'Sullivan another one of the WYWM Associate Instructors supporting Data Analysis. Mel shares her journey from becoming from adaptive multi disciplined Business, Data and RPA Analyst to now RPA Developer. Country raised, Army logistics trained. Come and hear her story! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

A Home Squads Story of a military family member out of the workforce for over 10 years who found a new career in data! Listen to Christine's story of her journey of conquering her fear of being comfortable and reaching outside this and finding her story in analysing data! Christine shares her story of transforming her knowledge from zero to hero on excel! We welcome Christine to our Associate Instructor program, a military family member now giving back to the wider military community! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Our host is back talking to some military veterans that have joined the WYWM mission to help the military community reach their potential into the tech industries. This new initiative is called the Associate Instructor Program - We are thrilled to have Martin Ferguson an Aussie #veteranhelpingveterans to support them through their training journey. Hear his story of giving back and join us next week to hear from our other Associate Instructors! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

This week we are back with a Military Transition Journey from Navy to Cyber Security Analyst. Our host Javiera speaks with Navy Veteran Chris Wilson who speaks about his journey and experience with WYWM during his military transition and has now secured a position as a cyber security analyst in Melbourne! #BeFierce #veteranpodcast #veteransuccess #befierce #wywm #Military #MilitaryLife #MilitaryLifestyle #MilitaryStrong #MilitaryService #MilitaryAppreciation #MilitarySupport #MilitaryPride #Navy #Army #Soldier #AirForce #Marine #NationalGuard #CoastGuard #Veteran #MilitaryHumor #vetsintechjobs #veteranemployment #veterantechtraining #cyber #automation #data #cloud #veteranshelpingveterans --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

This episode is an interview with two Australian veterans that both went into the Automation Industry with two very different backgrounds and services. One Navy Veteran Chef turned Automation specialist now working for the Australian Government building their Automation capability. The other an Army veteran who went from a 19 year service in RAEME then LWOP re-skilled into the Automation industry and now returned to Army to assist with their automation capability build out. You will not want to miss out this week's interview. These journeys highlight how military skills translate and how WYWM helped both veterans succeed on their journey!! . --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Across WithYouWithMe we want to highlight the many Veteran Success Stories that we have and perhaps give you the courage to #BeFierce! We welcome back Season 2 of our #BeFierce Podcast. Our host Javiera Soto Head of Partnerships and Community is back this season with more conversations, laughter and veteran success stories across Canada, the USA and Down Under in Australia! This season she continues to highlight the great work that the WYWM military community and the employment partners that are on the mission to solve underemployment across the globe! Episode 10 is an interview with a military family from our USA WYWM team. We discuss the journey from the US Army Ranger regiment into cyber and into our Veteran Success Team. We talk about how this military family works through the challenges of military transition and his potential and now into a new career! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Welcome back to Season 2 of the #BeFierce Podcast. Our host Javiera Soto Head of Partnerships and Community is back this season with more conversations, laughter and veteran success stories across Canada, the USA and Down Under in Australia! This season she continues to highlight the great work that the WYWM military community and the employment partners that are on the mission to solve underemployment across the globe! Episode 9 is about a veteran success story of an ex army soldier turned robotic process automation developer, here about his journey discovering WYWM, his potential and now into a new career! If you want to hear how WYWM is helping military veterans and their families #BeFierce and reach their full potential in the IT and emerging tech industry then tune in and listen and know that you can reach your full potential too! Want to know how you can #BeFierce come and join our community https://people.withyouwithme.com/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Meet Michael Hartung, our special guest from Veteran Sport Australia. Michael and Javiera are talking about VSA sport program and how it helps military veterans and military spouses with their career transition journey. You will get to know more about how VSA brings the servicing community together through their program, as well as, the significance of the e-sports to young people. Follow the Podcast here: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme You can sign-up for our portal today! FREE Courses for Military Veterans! The link is here: - https://hubs.ly/H0m2_zW0 Book a career call with one of our pathfinder team today! Kait - Military Partner- https://meetings.hubspot.com/kaitlynne1 Rebekah - Military Veteran - https://meetings.hubspot.com/rebekah19 Adam - Military Veteran (USA) - https://meetings.hubspot.com/adamstretch Follow our Social Channels! Twitter - https://twitter.com/WYWM_Academy Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/withyouwithmementoring/ Pinterest - https://www.pinterest.com.au/Withyouwithme/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/withyouwithmentoring/ LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe Academy - https://www.linkedin.com/school/wywmacademy/ LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe - https://www.linkedin.com/company/with-you-with-me/ Visit our website for more information! https://hubs.ly/H0m4by60 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Meet Olivia Nunn, our special guest from US Army Soldier for Life. Olivia and our host Javiera dive into topics related to career transition journey of military veterans and military spouses. This episode is going to give you an insight into the value of military veterans and military spouses in businesses. Follow the Podcast here: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme Follow US Armey Soldier for Life here: https://soldierforlife.army.mil You can sign-up for our portal today! FREE Courses for Military Veterans! The link is here: - https://hubs.ly/H0m2_zW0 Book a career call with one of our pathfinder team today! Kait - Military Partner- https://meetings.hubspot.com/kaitlynne1 Rebekah - Military Veteran - https://meetings.hubspot.com/rebekah19 Adam - Military Veteran (USA) - https://meetings.hubspot.com/adamstretch Follow our Social Channels! Twitter - https://twitter.com/WYWM_Academy Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/withyouwithmementoring Pinterest - https://www.pinterest.com.au/Withyouwithme/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/pg/withyouwithmentoring LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe Academy - https://www.linkedin.com/school/wywmacademy/ LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe - https://www.linkedin.com/company/with-you-with-me/ Visit our website for more information! https://hubs.ly/H0m4by60 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Meet Joshua Vogel, one of our new employees! After college, josh found he didn't have a purpose and burnt out. He made a change and found a recruiter for the Air Force, and eventually found his way to the Navy where they had a job for him. Joshua has now found a job in the civilian workforce. Watch on Youtube Here: https://youtu.be/FLtpYQsviuc 1:30 Introducing Josh Vogel and his military background. 5:00 Why Josh wanted to do more and find his sense of purpose. 7:30 What does making an impact feel like? 8:50 Going in a boy and coming out a man. 9:30 Was Josh always computer savvy? 10.30 Why learning to fail is important and the lifeblood of success. 14:30 Making the decision to stay or leave the Military. 18:00 Preparing for leaving the Military. 19:15 How did Josh meet WithYouWithMe? 20:00 How do you start the conversation with WithYouWithMe 22:00 How are Project Management skills relevant to IT? 24:00 What is Josh's Role at WithYouWithMe? 26:00 What is it like to work at WithYouWithMe? 29:00 Why catching 3rd world countries up with technology and Cyber Security is so important and fulfilling! 31:00 How does tech and Cyber affect the world and industries? 35:00 One piece of advice from Josh and transitioning. 36:50 Advice for people who are retraining and coming out of the military. 39:40 What did the training give you that made you feel more confident about the role you were about to embark on? You can sign-up for our portal today! FREE Courses for Military Veterans! The link is here: - https://hubs.ly/H0m2_zW0 Book a career call with one of our pathfinder team today! Kait - Military Partner- https://meetings.hubspot.com/kaitlynne1 Rebekah - Military Veteran - https://meetings.hubspot.com/rebekah19 Adam - Military Veteran (USA) - https://meetings.hubspot.com/adamstretch Follow our Social Channels! Twitter - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Yp0 Instagram - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Yw0 Pinterest - https://hubs.ly/H0m49J00 Facebook - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Jf0 LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe Academy - https://hubs.ly/H0m49ZK0 LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe - https://hubs.ly/H0m49-w0 #withyouwithme #befierce #betransparent #becurious #risewithyouwithme #risewywm #veterans #veteransintojobs #veteransintech Visit our website for more information! https://hubs.ly/H0m4by60 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Our host Javiera dives into the transition journey of WithYouWithMe Academy of Eric Mclntyre, WithYouWithMe Cyber Security Instructor in the podcast. Let's learn about Eric's role as a WYWM Cyber Security Instructor and how WithYouWithMe facilitates students' learning experience! 1:35 Who is Eric Mclntyre? 2:15 What is Eric's background? What is Eric's role in WithYouWithMe? 5:23 Recap of Eric's background 5:59 What was Eric's process to enter a technical role? 10:14 What is Eric's role in the Academy? 12:34 Eric explains how instructors facilitate students' learning in the WYWM Academy 16:40 What's Eric's favourite part in his role? 18:53 What are some of the important works Eric is working on in the Academy team? 21:18 Why is Cyber Security important? 22:26 What are the benefits of this kind of course structure in WYWM Academy? 24:53 What's Eric's advice of transitioning into Cyber jobs? 28:38 Let's get to know more about Eric! Uni, favourite colour, relationship... 32:03 Eric's love story! And more about his relationship 34:20 What's Eric's motivation? 35:41 Why Home Squad Program and how it benefits our students and their families 39:55 Eric loves WithYouWithMe and here's why 40:12 When is WYWM Academy next cohort? What can you expect from our courses? 42:35 Recap of episode 5 You can sign-up for our portal today! FREE Courses for Military Veterans! The link is here: - https://hubs.ly/H0m2_zW0 Book a career call with one of our pathfinder team today! Kait - Military Partner- https://meetings.hubspot.com/kaitlynne1 Rebekah - Military Veteran - https://meetings.hubspot.com/rebekah19 Adam - Military Veteran (USA) - https://meetings.hubspot.com/adamstretch Follow our Social Channels! Twitter - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Yp0 Instagram - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Yw0 Pinterest - https://hubs.ly/H0m49J00 Facebook - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Jf0 LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe Academy - https://hubs.ly/H0m49ZK0 LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe - https://hubs.ly/H0m49-w0 #withyouwithme #befierce #betransparent #becurious #risewithyouwithme #risewywm #veterans #veteransintojobs #veteransintech Visit our website for more information! https://hubs.ly/H0m4by60 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Listen to Javiera on her first episode of a weekly live stream where she discusses common trials and tribulations that come with being a military partner. Sometimes life can be hard at home when you are married to the service, however, it is all about perspective! Subscribe to Javiera on Twitch attwitch.tv/javierasoto Prefer Reading? you can find the transcript here: https://javierasotostream.school.blog/2019/12/18/javierasoto-stream-episode-1-toolkit-on-living-as-a-military-partner/ 0:20 Head Of partnerships and Community 1:30 What's Javiera's, Back Story? 3:00 Toolkit on how to survive to be a military partner, mum working full time. 4:20 Understanding your better half while on deployment. 5:30 The pursuit for excellence. 6:30 Why sharing and building communities is important. You can sign-up for our portal today! FREE Courses for Military Veterans and their immediate family! The link is here: - https://hubs.ly/H0m2_zW0 Book a career call with one of our pathfinder team today to find which career pathway your military skills match to and which jobs we can help you find! Kait - Military Partner- https://meetings.hubspot.com/kaitlynne1 Rebekah - Military Veteran - https://meetings.hubspot.com/rebekah19 Adam - Military Veteran (USA) - https://meetings.hubspot.com/adamstretch Follow our Social Channels! Twitter - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Yp0 Instagram - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Yw0 Pinterest - https://hubs.ly/H0m49J00 Facebook - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Jf0 LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe Academy - https://hubs.ly/H0m49ZK0 LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe - https://hubs.ly/H0m49-w0 #withyouwithme #befierce #betransparent #becurious #risewithyouwithme #risewywm #veterans #veteransintojobs #veteransintech Visit our website for more information! https://hubs.ly/H0m4by60 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Javiera and H discuss the way-finder program that H is heading up which helps underutilized talent like pacific islanders. The program is specifically set up to provide training in tech careers. They also discuss what it is like to work at WithYouWithMe. What opportunities do we have to effect change and make a change in peoples lives? The kinds of support networks that are out there. How important belief systems are to keep inspired. If you are an employer that would like to reach out to be an employer for the way-finder program get in touch! If you’d like to hear more about the opportunities you can reach out to H at this email. monu@withyouwithme.com 1:30 Why do we call Monu H? 3:00 Monu is a team member of WithYouWithMe, but what is his story? 7:40 Why did Monu Choose to go into HR 9:15 What is Monu's Role at WithYouWithMe 10:00 What makes Monu passionate about what he does. 14:30 Why it is important to believe in something 23:06 What is H’s Favourite part about working with WithYouWithMe? 26:50 What it’s like to see the graduates grow! 28:00 What is some advice you would give to someone who is transitioning? 29:55 How to reach out to support. 33:00 Why communicating as a military veteran is important. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Va helps ex-military veteran students on their journey within the WithYouWithMe Academy from noobie to a qualified professional. Watch how Va talks about her journey from joining the military to transitioning into civilian life. Find the Youtube Video Here: https://youtu.be/xDWXIxOQujg WithYouWithMe provides free service for current and ex-serving members of the Australian and the United States military to help their transition into the civilian job market. WYWM aligns skills, experiences and personality to identified career pathways within the industry; ultimately placing veterans into full-time work and solving the veteran unemployment rate in Australia. If you would like to learn more about WithYouWithMe, start building your career now by joining the portal: https://www.withyouwithme.com/ 0:20 What is the WYWM Podcast about? 1:00 Career transition journey of our special guest - Va Hart 6:53 Va's military background 8:24 Why Va put her discharge in 2017? 10:26 What happened after Va got the job? 12:20 What is Va's role in WYWM? 13:32 How does WYWM help? 14:40 Va talks about how veterans can find their purpose 15:46 Va talks about connecting with your communities for support 15:57 Va shares about WYWM micro-events and how they help with building communities 17:26 Va talks about why making a connection with your communities is important 19:32 How does WYWM help the underutilized community groups to realize their potential? 20:19 Quick recap of Va's role in WYWM and how she helps the underutilized community groups to realize their potential 21:22 Why is it important to Va and her community group to get support from WYWM? 23:50 What is Va's drive to be the ambassador of the program? 25:50 What is the best part out of the program for Va? 28:24 What is the ambassador program about? 30:48 How does the ambassador program help veterans to get prepared for the transition? 32:13 What is Va's role in the ambassador program and what does she do to make people get involved? 33:12 What should I do to give back to our communities to help them in their transition journey? 33:25 The ambassador program is interesting and exciting and we need your feedback 34:31 Thanks Va for being on our show 35:32 Recap of what this podcast is about You can sign-up for our portal today! FREE Courses for Military Veterans! The link is here: - https://hubs.ly/H0m2_zW0 Book a career call with one of our pathfinder team today! Kait - Military Partner- https://meetings.hubspot.com/kaitlynne1 Rebekah - Military Veteran - https://meetings.hubspot.com/rebekah19 Adam - Military Veteran (USA) - https://meetings.hubspot.com/adamstretch Follow our Social Channels! Twitter - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Yp0 Instagram - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Yw0 Pinterest - https://hubs.ly/H0m49J00 Facebook - https://hubs.ly/H0m49Jf0 LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe Academy - https://hubs.ly/H0m49ZK0 LinkedIn - WithYouWithMe - https://hubs.ly/H0m49-w0 #withyouwithme #befierce #betransparent #becurious #risewithyouwithme #risewywm #veterans #veteransintojobs #veteransintech Visit our website for more information! https://hubs.ly/H0m4by60 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Thomas helps businesses discover the potential and value of ex-military veterans within the United States and Australia. Assisting businesses to discover military talent, train and upskill existing talent, deploy, and grow their workforce WithYouWithMe provides free service for current and ex-serving members of the Australian and the United States military to help their transition into the civilian job market. WYWM aligns skills, experiences and personality to identified career pathways within the industry; ultimately placing veterans into full-time work and solving the veteran unemployment rate in Australia. If you would like to learn more about WithYouWithMe, start building your career now by joining the portal: https://www.withyouwithme.com/ 0:51 Welcome our special guests - Will Lewis and Thomas Mynott 2:04 Why are we called WithYouWithMe? 5:34 What is Thomas's story? 10:12 How does the WYWM Way help build the workforce? 12:41 Quick recap of Thomas military background 12:58 Thomas continues talking about his military background' 14:20 Why and how did Thomas join WYWM? 16:12 What is Thomas's role in WYWM? 17:45 What is Thomas's biggest challenge in this role? 18:09 What does WYWM sales team do to make a positive impact? 21:49 Thomas talks about what he loves about his role 30:09 What advice will Thomas give to veterans going through their career transition journey? 34:37 Will and Thomas talk about values of WYWM and how WYWM is working with them 39:57 Thoma talks about what is the Future of Work and the Future of Employees 43:34 Recap of the episode Find the Video on Youtube here! https://youtu.be/ozW6TpzPbA8 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Rebekah served in the Australian Army from 2011 to 2018 as a Psychology Examiner specialising in mental health management and administration, focusing on the well-being of Australian Defence Force members. Rebekah is now a member of the pathfinder team (Veteran Success) at WithYouWithMe, helping ADF veterans achieve their career pathway. WithYouWithMe provides free service for current and ex-serving members of the Australian and the United States military to help their transition into the civilian job market. WYWM aligns skills, experiences and personality to identified career pathways within the industry; ultimately placing veterans into full-time work and solving the veteran unemployment rate in Australia. If you would like to learn more about WithYouWithMe, start building your career now by joining the portal: https://www.withyouwithme.com/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message

Talking all things military transition. Thought processes and strategies to be resilient. "You've got to socialise your ideas" https://withyouwithme.com/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/withyouwithme/message