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In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Natalie Knowlton discuss:The growing number of people DIYing their legal needs and why lawyers should be concerned. Non-lawyer ownership of law firms. Why lawyers should embrace thoughtful legal regulatory reform. Emerging business models in the practice of law. Key Takeaways:Law is both a profession and a business. Your law firm should be running as an actual business that provides legal services. Consumers are responding to the commoditization of the law - it is a way that consumers recognize and understand how to use. You can monetize legal information. There is a level of legal information you can package and sell that the average person just doesn't know. Technology is causing a disruption and a change in the legal industry. That technology, such as AI, is likely here to stay and is only going to get more sophisticated. "Regulatory reform is here to stay. I think the level of opposition we are seeing is a testament to the fact that it is here to stay." — Natalie KnowltonGet a free copy of Steve's book “Sales-Free Selling” here: www.fretzin.com/sales-free-selling Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Get Visible: https://www.getvisible.com/ Episode References: Final Event of 2023!: https://fretzin.com/eventsTalk Justice: https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/talk-justice/Mathew Kerbis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathewrobertkerbis/ About Natalie Knowlton: Natalie Anne Knowlton is the Founder of Access to Justice Ventures, empowering entrepreneurs who are developing scalable access to justice solutions. She is a 2023 ABA Journal Legal Rebel and is listed among the ABA Legal Technology Resource Center's 2022 Women of Legal Tech. Connect with Natalie Knowlton: Website: https://a2jventures.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalieanneknowlton/Twitter: https://twitter.com/natalalleycat Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Basha Rubin and Mirra Levitt are the Co-founders of Priori, a legal marketplace that is changing the way in-house teams find, hire, and manage outside counsel. Priori's clients include Fortune 500 enterprises and leading technology companies, such as Dreamhost, Via, Artsy, and Brex. The company was named a Financial Times Intelligent Business in 2018 and 2019 for its work in reducing legal spending for the Hearst Corporation. In addition to co-founding the company, Basha is also the CEO of Priori. She speaks and writes extensively on how technology is changing the marketplace for legal services and has had her work featured in outlets like Forbes and TechCrunch. She met her Co-founder and the CPO of Priori, Mirra, at Yale Law School. In 2018, Mirra was named an ABA Journal Legal Rebel for her work using data to dynamically match in-house counsel with the right lawyers for projects. Before Priori, Mirra was a Financial Analyst at Goldman Sachs and a Henry Luce Scholar in the microfinance program in Save the Children's Hanoi, Vietnam office. In this episode… Do you think artificial intelligence will take over the legal industry and make lawyers obsolete? Is it possible that data-driven processes and new technology will cause disruptions in the legal space that we'll never be able to navigate? Basha Rubin and Mirra Levitt certainly don't think so. In founding their company, Priori, their mission isn't to replace any processes, but instead to maximize the outcomes to your specific needs. There is no one-size-fits-all approach when it comes to legal services—and Priori is here to establish this as an industry norm. In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge, Elise Holtzman sits down with the Co-founders of Priori, Basha Rubin and Mirra Levitt, to talk about the innovative mission behind their legal tech start-up. Basha and Mirra chat about starting the company as two law school graduates, how the Priori marketplace model works, and why they believe technology is transforming the legal industry for the better. Keep listening.
When David Van Zandt became dean of what is now Northwestern University's Pritzker School of Law in 1995, he faced a steep learning curve, he tells the ABA Journal's Jason Tashea. But he had a good sense of the demands on recent graduates and lawyers. He also took on faculty hiring and tenure–a third rail in higher education–by hiring those for tenure track positions with not only JDs, but PhDs. Named an ABA Journal Legal Rebel in 2009, Van Zandt is now the president of the New School in New York. Whether grappling with political issues of the day or an oppositional faculty, Van Zandt has continually forged ahead for the changes he believes in. Special thanks to our sponsor, Answer1 and Thomson Reuters Westlaw Edge.
When David Van Zandt became dean of what is now Northwestern University's Pritzker School of Law in 1995, he faced a steep learning curve, he tells the ABA Journal's Jason Tashea. But he had a good sense of the demands on recent graduates and lawyers. He also took on faculty hiring and tenure–a third rail in higher education–by hiring those for tenure track positions with not only JDs, but PhDs. Named an ABA Journal Legal Rebel in 2009, Van Zandt is now the president of the New School in New York. Whether grappling with political issues of the day or an oppositional faculty, Van Zandt has continually forged ahead for the changes he believes in. Special thanks to our sponsor, Answer1 and Thomson Reuters Westlaw Edge.
Felicity Conrad is on a mission to help expand pro bono legal services. The legal technology company she cofounded, Paladin, helps corporations, law firms, law schools and legal service organizations streamline their pro bono programs, with the greater goal of helping them serve more clients in need and help close the gap in access to justice. Paladin has attracted some notable investors, including billionaire Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks and host of the show Shark Tank,and also notable development partnerships, including with the law firms Dentons and Wilson Sonsini and the Chicago Bar Foundation. On this episode of LawNext, Conrad joins host Bob Ambrogi for an in-depth discussion of the company she and cofounder Kristen Sonday launched in 2015. She explains how the platform works, describes Paladin’s partnerships with legal departments, law firms and associations to expand it capabilities, and discusses her views on how technology can play a role in expanding access to justice. Before founding Paladin, Conrad was a litigator in the New York office of Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom. An alumnus of NYU Law, McGill University and Sciences Po Paris, she previously worked at the United Nations on International Criminal Court issues, and has worked in international law around the world. In 2017, she was named both an ABA Journal Legal Rebel and a Fastcase 50 legal innovation honoree. In 2019, the ABA Legal Technology Resource Center named her to its roster of Women of Legal Tech. NEW: We are now Patreon! Subscribe to our page to be able to access show transcripts, or to submit a question for our guests. Comment on this show: Record a voice comment on your mobile phone and send it to info@lawnext.com.
In the 10 years since Emery K. Harlan, co-founder of the National Association of Minority & Women Owned Law Firms, was featured as an ABA Journal Legal Rebel, he says little has changed for diversity in the profession. "I think it's stayed about the same," Harlan tells the ABA Journal's Stephanie Francis Ward. "The lesson we can take from diversity and inclusion is that there needs to be vigilance. There can never be a point where we can say we've achieved all there is to achieve. I think this year's [Am Law] partnership classes is an indicator of that." Special thanks to our sponsor, Answer1 and Thomson Reuters Westlaw Edge.
In the 10 years since Emery K. Harlan, co-founder of the National Association of Minority & Women Owned Law Firms, was featured as an ABA Journal Legal Rebel, he says little has changed for diversity in the profession. "I think it's stayed about the same," Harlan tells the ABA Journal's Stephanie Francis Ward. "The lesson we can take from diversity and inclusion is that there needs to be vigilance. There can never be a point where we can say we've achieved all there is to achieve. I think this year's [Am Law] partnership classes is an indicator of that." Special thanks to our sponsor, Answer1 and Thomson Reuters Westlaw Edge.