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Send us a text Brett Trembly - Show Notes lovethylawyer.com A transcript of this podcast is easily available at lovethylawyer.com. Brett Trembly is a business attorney and the founder of Trembly Law Firm in Miami. He's also the co-founder of Get Staffed Up, a company that provides virtual staff to law firms. Over the years, Brett built his firm from the ground up, shifting from litigation to business and franchise law. He scaled his team by learning how to delegate and eventually launched a second business focused on helping other lawyers do the same. His firm once grew 50–100% per year, and Get Staffed Up is now a major player in virtual legal staffing. In this episode, Brett talks about the struggles of running a law firm, the importance of hiring the right support early on, and how law school doesn't teach lawyers how to run a business. He also opens up about the toll litigation can take and how he built a life with more freedom and balance. Listen to this episode to learn why hiring an assistant might be the smartest first step for your practice, how to protect your time, and how small staffing decisions can create big changes in your work and life. Get Staffed Up https://getstaffedup.com/ The Trembly Law Firmhttps://tremblylaw.com/ Louis Goodmanwww.louisgoodman.comlouis@lovethylawyer.com510.582.9090 Musical theme by Joel Katz, Seaside Recording, MauiTechnical support: Bryan Matheson, Skyline Studios, OaklandAudiograms & Transcripts: Paul Robert We'd love to hear from you.  Send us an email at louisgoodman2010@gmail.com. Please subscribe and listen. Then tell us who you want to hear and what areas of interest you'd like us to cover. Please rate us and review us on Apple Podcasts. Louis Goodman www.louisgoodman.comhttps://www.lovethylawyer.com/510.582.9090Music: Joel Katz, Seaside Recording, MauiTech: Bryan Matheson, Skyline Studios, OaklandAudiograms: Paul Robert louis@lovethylawyer.com

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In this inspiring episode of the NewLaw Podcast for Entrepreneurial Lawyers, Ali Katz welcomes Brett Trembly; CEO and co-founder of Get Staffed Up, and the founder of Trembly Law. Brett shares the incredible journey behind his successful book "24 Months to Freedom," emphasizing the critical role marketing plays in a book's success. He also opens up about his experience as a pioneer in the legal remote staffing arena, shedding light on the advantages and challenges of employing remote staff in the legal industry.   Listen as Brett details his evolution from a solo practitioner to running a thriving virtual staffing company that has positively changed hundreds of lives across the globe. Through this episode, Ali and Brett unravel the principles of leveraging remote work, the essentials of effective delegation, and how consistent marketing can transform a law practice into a flourishing business.   Key Takeaways:   Navigating the Legal Remote Staffing Landscape: Brett's early adoption and promotion of remote work within the legal arena illustrate the ongoing transition and growth of this innovative business model. The Power of Delegation: There is immense value in hiring staff to manage non-core tasks, enabling lawyers to focus on growth and client service. Overcoming Financial Fears in Hiring: Both Brett and Ali discuss the financial anxieties of hiring new employees and how commitment to action can unlock the necessary resources. Mindset and Decision-Making: The conversation highlights how active decision-making and overcoming limiting beliefs can create significant positive changes in one's professional and personal life. Importance of Marketing: Brett credits effective marketing strategies for the success of his book and encourages lawyers to adopt systematic marketing practices to ensure consistent growth.

Send us a textCurious about how to liberate more time while growing your business? Get ready to unlock the secrets of effective delegation with Brett Tremblay, a lawyer turned entrepreneur who has mastered the art of staffing. Brett shares his fascinating journey, from the courtroom to establishing Get Staffed Up, a virtual staffing powerhouse that connects businesses with talented offshore staff from Latin America. Discover the strategic advantages of hiring internationally, such as the educational and cultural compatibility that enhances team dynamics, and learn how the pandemic has simplified the shift to remote work, accelerating growth in this arena.Ever wondered how law firm owners can transform their practice and reclaim their lives? We explore the pivotal role of delegation in achieving balance and success. Drawing insights from my book, "24 Months to Freedom," Brett and I delve into the challenges business owners face when adjusting to newfound leisure time. The discussion unpacks the concept of trading money for time, and why it's crucial to maintain a balance between comfort and continued growth to prevent stagnation. It's a candid conversation about the guilt of letting go and the freedom that comes with it.If you've felt burnt out from doing everything yourself, tune in to learn how building the right team can revolutionize your workflow and elevate your business. With Brett's insights, we examine innovative staffing solutions, like Virtual Case Managers for personal injury attorneys, and the strategic collaborations aimed at supporting this niche market. As we look towards 2025, we highlight the importance of networking and strategic marketing to reach new clients in the bustling legal sector. Whether you're a law firm owner, an entrepreneur, or a podcast host looking to optimize your operations, this episode offers invaluable strategies to enhance your approach to staffing and business growth.Brett is the Co-Founder and CEO of Get Staffed Up, the largest and fastest growing virtual staffing company in the US for lawyers.Brett is launching his second book, 24 Months to Freedom, on March 30th, 2023. The book outlines the specific hiring actions law firm owners need to take to get out from under their business and start realizing their dreams.  Get Staffed Up recruits the top 1% of the world's English-Speaking VAs from Latin America. They have placed thousands of Staffers in over 700+ law firms and other small and medium-sized businesses throughout North America.The company was recognized in 2022 by Inc. 5000 as the 67th fastest-growing private company in the United States.Besides his VA company, Brett is an attorney and the Founding Partner of Trembly Law Firm, a Miami-based franchise and business law firm. He started as the sole attorney at the law firm in 2011 and has grown it to 12 attorneys and 40+ employees who represent some of the biggest companies in the eastern United States.The business has also appeared on the Inc. 5000 list of fastest-growing private companies in the US three times and has been recognized as one of the 100 fastest-growing law firms by Law Firm 500 four times while under Brett's leadership.https://getstaffedup.com/https://www.youtube.com/watch?vSupport the showif you enjoyed the show be sure to check out my info:https://app.wingcard.io/ROB3SA64

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Melanie Herschorn discuss:Book writing for lawyersChallenges in book publishingBooks as marketing toolsRole of technology and AI in publishing Key Takeaways:Lawyers can streamline book creation by repurposing existing content instead of writing new material daily.Carefully vet publishers to avoid rights loss or financial exploitation by selecting those with transparency and industry expertise.Successful book marketing involves pre-launch planning, continual promotion, and leveraging various channels like media and podcasts.AI can assist with editing and formatting but should not be heavily relied upon for writing due to potential quality and copyright issues. "You just want to remember that it isn't about book sales. It's really about leveraging the book for client retention, client acquisition, and visibility opportunities." —  Melanie Herschorn Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Rainmakers Roundtable: https://www.fretzin.com/lawyer-coaching-and-training/peer-advisory-groups/ Episode References:The Jamie Kern Lima Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jamie-kern-lima-show/id1728723635 About Melanie Herschorn: Melanie Herschorn is dedicated to helping you step into the spotlight as an authority. As a publisher and book marketing expert for attorneys and business owners worldwide, she empowers authors to share their message with the world while leveraging their book for impact, influence, and income. With over 20 years of experience as a celebrity publicist, award-winning journalist in radio, print, and TV, as well as a clothing designer and entrepreneur, Melanie is uniquely positioned to support authors in becoming thought leaders and making a significant impact with their books. Her latest book, Make a Big Impact with Your Book, is now available. Transform your expertise into a powerful book—download The Ultimate Publishing Guide now: https://yourbigimpactbook.info/attorneyguide Connect with Melanie Herschorn:  Website: https://vipbookmarketing.com/Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Melanie-Herschorn/author/B09X9HQXLTLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melanie-herschorn/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melherschornInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/bigimpactbooks/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Gregg Goldfarb discuss:Evolving legal marketing strategiesNon-lawyer ownership in law firmsRevenue growth through referrals and partnershipsNetworking and education for lawyers Key Takeaways:Lawyers can expand their revenue streams by engaging in referral marketing, where they identify cases outside their expertise and refer them to other firms, earning a fee for the referral​.Non-lawyer owned firms are now possible in states like Arizona, allowing lawyers to partner with marketers or business professionals to focus on legal work while leveraging external business expertise for growth.Legal professionals should invest in their personal growth through education, coaching, and attending legal conferences to learn new strategies for marketing, networking, and expanding their business horizons.The legal industry is seeing increased involvement from financial entities like Wall Street, which is providing capital to law firms for mass tort cases, highlighting the growing intersection of finance and law. "The legal conferences now are much better... it's entertainment, it's information, it's connections." —  Gregg Goldfarb Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Rainmakers Roundtable: https://www.fretzin.com/lawyer-coaching-and-training/peer-advisory-groups/ Episode References: The Daily Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736 About Gregg Goldfarb: Gregg Goldfarb is a trial lawyer with over 30 years of experience, focusing on, among other things, mass torts. Gregg also hosts his own podcast called Cut to the Chase, which covers public interest issues ranging from law, the environment, and anti-Semitism to the arts. Connect with Gregg Goldfarb:  Website: https://gregggoldfarb.com/Phone: 305-374-7000Show: Cut To The Chase Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cut-to-the-chase-podcast-hosted-by-gregg-goldfarb/id1551362164LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregggoldfarb/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masstortguy/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Douglas Wood discuss:Career transition planning for lawyersEffective planning and execution in law firmsChallenges for senior lawyers in staying relevantLeveraging senior lawyers' expertise in law firms Key Takeaways:Lawyers should self-assess to identify their strengths, weaknesses, and opportunities early to make informed career decisions and avoid unwanted retirement.Law firms can create cohorts for senior lawyers to share knowledge and discuss transitioning their practices, similar to support provided for other groups like veterans or LGBTQ+ professionals.Solo practitioners and small firm owners benefit from planning the transfer of their client base well before retirement to ensure service continuity and maximize the value of client relationships.A robust book of business greatly impacts a lawyer's career longevity and retirement options. "Lawyers can get very lucky at times, but more often than not, if you're planning it, you're going to see the success that you need." —  Douglas Wood Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Rainmakers Roundtable: https://www.fretzin.com/lawyer-coaching-and-training/peer-advisory-groups/ Episode References: The Power of Positive Thinking: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Positive-Thinking-Norman-Vincent/dp/0743234804 About Douglas Wood: Douglas Wood, author of From Dawn to Dusk: How to Build a Multimillion Dollar Law Practice and Then Give It Away, offers guidance on building a multimillion-dollar law practice and transitioning to retirement or other pursuits. With nearly fifty years of legal experience, including over twenty in Big Law, Doug retired to mentor young attorneys and those preparing to leave the profession. A novelist with ten books—seven fiction and three non-fiction—he is currently writing his eighth novel. Doug holds a BA from the University of Rhode Island, a JD from Franklin Pierce Law Center, an LLM from NYU, an Honorary Doctor of Laws from the University of New Hampshire, and has taught at UNH and University College Cork in Ireland. Connect with Douglas Wood:  Website: https://douglasjwood.com/Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Douglas-J.-Wood/author/B00BCJRTV6LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/djwood1976 Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Paige Fox discuss:The importance of mindfulness and wellness in professional lifeThe challenges lawyers face with time management and stressThe impact of meditation on mental health and productivityStrategies for lawyers to maintain a balanced lifestyle Key Takeaways:Chronic stress and long work hours often lead to burnout, highlighting the need to integrate mindfulness and wellness into daily routines to maintain mental health and job performance.Managing time through delegation, automation, and prioritization is crucial for professionals, especially lawyers, to allocate time for self-care practices like meditation and exercise.Incorporating a brief daily meditation practice, even if only for five minutes, can offer substantial benefits by significantly reducing stress levels and enhancing overall emotional resilience and clarity.The focus on billable hours and client demands often causes lawyers to neglect their wellness, leading to long-term health issues unless they balance professional and personal well-being. "Be the energy you want to attract." —  Paige Fox Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Rainmakers Roundtable: https://www.fretzin.com/lawyer-coaching-and-training/peer-advisory-groups/ Episode References: Bledsoe Said So podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bledsoe-said-so/id1573038290 About Paige Fox: Paige N. Fox is the founder of Fox Law, LLC, a remote law firm in Illinois, and does of-counsel work for Erwin Law, LLC, and DentCoulson Elder Law. She specializes in estate planning, special needs planning, and elder law. As President of the Illinois Chapter of NAELA and Chair of the CBA's Young Lawyers Section Serving Our Seniors Committee, Paige is committed to professional development and community service. Recognized as a Rising Star by Super Lawyers since 2022, she received the David C. Hilliard Award in 2023. Paige earned her JD from Chicago-Kent College of Law and enjoys pro bono work, flying trapeze, sports, and dance. Connect with Paige Fox:  Email: paige@foxelderlaw.orgLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/attorneypaigefox/Linktree: https://linktr.ee/paigefox_attorney Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Frank Rekas discuss:Effectively managing and growing a law practiceCommon challenges in professional practice operationsThe role of delegation in business efficiencyBuilding connections for business development Key Takeaways:Lawyers often struggle with financial management because they aren't taught business skills in law school, leading them to handle finances disorganized, resulting in missed opportunities and inefficiencies.Many law firm owners wear too many hats, such as managing finances, marketing, and administrative tasks, distracting from legal work and hindering productivity and success.Successful law firms should delegate by hiring specialists, like fractional CFOs for oversight and marketers for development, ensuring each business aspect is managed by experts, letting lawyers focus on their best work.Building a strong network, particularly through social media and direct engagement with potential clients or partners, can greatly enhance a lawyer's ability to grow their practice and establish themselves as experts. "You need to be organized, and by getting organized, that means you need to have a financial plan." —  Frank Rekas Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: The Power Of Zero Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-power-of-zero-show/id1441026169 About Frank Rekas: Frank Rekas is a seasoned financial professional with over 30 years of experience in financial services. Based in South Florida, Frank has been with Equitable Advisors since 2014, focusing on helping attorneys, business owners, and individuals navigate complex financial planning, particularly through divorce. He holds multiple FINRA registrations and is actively involved in his community as a board member of the American Hellenic Education Philanthropic Association (AHEPA). Frank is known for his personalized approach, building strong, lifelong relationships with his clients. Connect with Frank Rekas:  Email: frank.rekas@myplutusfinancial.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankrekas/Phone: 954-253-5508 (Mobile) and 561-961-9312 (Office) Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Phil Gafka discuss:The impact of cultural shifts on workplace harmonyThe role of clear expectations in boosting employee morale and productivityHow inclusive leadership practices improve job satisfactionLeveraging unique team experiences and backgrounds Key Takeaways:Embracing cultural changes, valuing diverse perspectives, and fostering collaboration create a more inclusive and harmonious workplace for all employees.Clear communication of organizational goals and work-life balance boosts employee loyalty, satisfaction, retention, and productivity.Emphasizing collaborative and inclusive leadership over top-down management enhances job satisfaction and career fulfillment, making employees feel valued and heard.Leveraging unique backgrounds and experiences fosters a respectful, innovative environment that strengthens the community and boosts overall performance and satisfaction. "Culture is everything. How you do what you do is the biggest indicator of whether you're going to be successful." —  Phil Gafka Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek: https://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Game-Simon-Sinek/dp/073521350X About Phil Gafka: Phil Gafka is a Certified Business Coach and the Founder of LEAP Associates, Inc., a premier executive coaching and business development firm. With four decades of leadership and business development experience, Phil excels in helping clients, including business owners, executives, and entrepreneurs, unlock their potential for elevated performance. He specializes in executive coaching, strategic planning, and team leadership, using his extensive experience and certifications in tools like DISC and the TriMetrix Legacy Profile to guide clients toward their goals. Phil's unique insights and practical approach stem from his own journey from corporate executive to successful business owner. Connect with Phil Gafka:  Website: https://www.leapcoaching.com/Email: Phil@leapcoaching.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/philgafka/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Nanette Fridman discuss:Expanding professional networks through board serviceThe role of lawyers in board settingsEnhancing board effectiveness through diverse skillsStrategic relationship-building in nonprofit organizations Key Takeaways:Serving on boards lets lawyers contribute to meaningful causes while boosting their skills and network, making their careers more fulfilling.Lawyers should assess board members for a diverse skill mix before joining to ensure the position offers personal growth and enrichment.Engaging with board members outside formal meetings helps build stronger relationships, increases collaboration, and generates referrals, benefiting both the lawyer and the organization.Lawyers' leadership skills are highly valued in board settings, providing effective governance and offering increased visibility and networking opportunities. "Lawyers are great board members. People love having them on the board, and they often are natural leaders. And so, they become board chairs." —  Nanette Fridman Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: ReThinking Podcast by Adam Grant: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rethinking/id1554567118About Nanette Fridman: Nanette Fridman is an organizational strategist, facilitator, and executive coach known for her dynamic and empowering approach. As the founder of Effect Collective and the author of On Board and Holding the Gavel, she excels in helping organizations and leaders optimize resources, strategize for the future, and enhance governance. With a background in corporate law and advocacy, Nanette brings a wealth of experience and high energy to her work as a national speaker, trainer, and facilitator for diverse audiences, including management teams, boards, and emerging leaders. Connect with Nanette Fridman:  Website: https://www.effect-collective.comOn Board: What Current and Aspiring Board Members Must Know About Nonprofits and Board ServiceHolding the Gavel: What Nonprofit Board Leaders Need to Know  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nanettefridmanIs This Board For Me? Questions to ask: https://shorturl.at/3TilQ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Arthur Levitan discuss:Importance of knowing when to stop workingImpact of remote work on stress and productivityTechniques for managing stress and maintaining mental healthRole of deep breathing in stress reduction and performanceHumility and adaptability in success and professional growth Key Takeaways:Establish clear boundaries for your work hours to prevent burnout and improve productivity by stopping when your brain is no longer functioning at its best.Incorporate regular deep breathing exercises into your daily routine to reduce stress and promote mental clarity.Prioritize social interactions and physical movement to counteract the isolation and sedentary nature of remote work.Embrace a balanced approach to work and rest, recognizing the value of recuperation periods to maintain high performance and prevent long-term fatigue.Cultivate humility and adaptability by acknowledging your knowledge limits and staying open to new information and challenges. "Understanding when to stop is one of the highest forms of spirituality." —  Arthur LevitanRead more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Dan Carlin's Hardcore History: https://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/ About Arthur Levitan: Master Arthur Levitan is the Founder and current Master of Quantum Tao, a non-profit community dedicated to studying Taoism's ancient practices under his guidance. As one of the few Taoist Masters in the Western world, Master Levitan, who was recognized and ordained by the High Priestess of the Qingcheng Mountain Taoist temple in China in 2016, brings a unique perspective to his teachings. His school, California Tao, established in 2009, emphasizes practical daily applications of Tao and Qigong, making these ancient principles accessible to modern Americans. His book, "Outlast," provides practical methods for managing internal energies through life's challenges. Connect with Arthur Levitan:  Website: https://quantumtao.org/Email: arthur@californiatao.org Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Eduardo Paiz discuss:When most lawyers feel discontent with their jobs. How business development is different between the US and Latin America. Cultural differences in business communication. How the Young Partners Accelerator is helping lawyers in transition and changing their mentality.  Key Takeaways:Most lawyers feel discontent when they don't feel in control of their careers. Business culture is the biggest difference when doing business development in other parts of the world. In the US, relationships tend to take a backseat to direct business matters. In Latin America, the relationships are driving more of the work. In Latin America, you are unlikely to receive a direct “no” in business. It also usually takes a couple of meetings before you speak directly about business after the relationships are established.Becoming a partnership will, and should, change your job dynamics.  "The dynamics are the same. If you have clients, you have the ability to bring in clients, you are going to be better compensated. You are going to have more power at the table. The dynamics of the legal market are the same." —  Eduardo Paiz Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: The New Strategic Selling: The Unique Sales System Proves Successful by the World's Best Companies by Robert B. Miller and Stephen E. Heiman - https://www.amazon.com/New-Strategic-Selling-Successful-Companies/dp/044669519XFind out more about the Young Partners Accelerator at: https://ypaccelerator.com/ use Steve's code for a discount! FRETZIN24 About Eduardo Paiz: Eduardo Paiz is one of the founding partners of the Young Partners Accelerator, a unique program designed to train attorneys as they transition into partnership roles. As a consultant, he specializes in business development in the Latin American market, where, for the last 10 years, he has helped hundreds of attorneys build and grow their books of business. Additionally, he has assisted several law firms in establishing the processes and culture needed to promote cross-collaboration in their business development efforts. He is a two-time author, speaker, proud father of two daughters, and avid traveler.  Connect with Eduardo Paiz:  Website: https://bolderconsulting.legal/Website: https://ypaccelerator.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eduardo-paiz/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ryan Kimler discuss:Understanding the amount of money you need to keep your law firm and your personal finances healthy.Reinvesting money into your firm. What a typical comp plan looks like for small firms.A breakdown of what minimums a financially healthy law firm looks like by the numbers. Key Takeaways:As a law firm, when you're paying hire salaries, you need to look at your bonus plans because those can eat into your firm's profitability. You have to have enough cash to keep the law firm running and financially healthy.Don't be afraid to do the math or raise fees when needed. If your attorney cannot bring in the right amount to keep the firm on secure financial footing when working their hours, consider raising fees. Even small amounts add up over the year.Retirement is the biggest financial piece most law firm owners miss.  "Salaries are definitely continuing to grow, and they're on the higher end. And I think when that's the case, as a law firm, when we're talking about financial health here, you have to pay attention to and really look at your bonus plans. Because when you have a higher payroll cost, those bonus plans can really cut into profitability. So you have to be careful with those." —  Ryan Kimler Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: The Money Guy Show: https://moneyguy.com/show/ About Ryan Kimler: Ryan Kimler is the Founder of Net Profit CFO, and he is the host of the Net Profit Podcast. At Net Profit CFO, Ryan and his team use their background in Accounting and Finance to help law firm owners do one thing; have a growing and more profitable business. Helping law firm owners have a growing and more profitable business means two things. One, your law firm has enough cash to grow and maintain a strong financial health. And two, your law firm produces enough cash for you as the owner to fulfill your wants and needs. Connect with Ryan Kimler:  Website: https://netprofitcfo.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryankfinancialclarityllc/  Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/net-profit-podcast-accelerate-your-profits-with-ryan/id1661941437 Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Chris Dreyer discuss:Search engine marketing and SEO for lawyers. Some of the main changes in content marketing. Changing up how you write content. Getting the most out of legal conferences.  Key Takeaways:Leaning into SEO will look different depending on your field as well as your location. The top-of-the-page marketing has changed because of the AI Overview on Google. Google likes brands, they like signals and clicks to resources such as videos.The best conferences to go to are the ones that you put the most into and make a plan for.PIMCon has been curated for the conferencegoers. They are bringing in some of the top people in the PI space to speak and they were invited to do so. "In the search engine marketing side, one of the most challenging things is link building. And link building, by and large, is relationships. It's the hardest thing to do." —  Chris Dreyer Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Alex Hormozi: https://www.youtube.com/alexhormoziRankings.io: https://rankings.io/Michael Mogill: https://michaelmogill.com/ProVisors: https://provisors.com/Ready, Fire, Aim by Michael Masterson: https://www.amazon.com/Ready-Fire-Aim-Zero-Million/dp/0470182024 About Chris Dreyer: Chris Dreyer is the CEO and Founder of Rankings.io, an SEO agency that helps elite law firms and personal injury lawyers obtain cases through Google's organic search results. His company has the distinction of making the Inc. 5000 list seven years in a row.In addition to owning and operating Rankings, Chris is the Wall Street Journal and USA Today best-selling author of “Niching Up: The Narrower the Market, the Bigger the Prize”, a real estate investor, and podcast host (Personal Injury Mastermind), as well as a member of the Forbes Agency Council, the Rolling Stone Culture Council, Business Journals Leadership Trust, Fast Company Executive Board, and Newsweek Expert Forum.Chris's journey in legal marketing has been a saga, to say the least. A world-ranked collectible card game player in his youth, Chris began his “grown up” career with a History Education degree and landed a job out of college as a detention room supervisor. The surplus of free time in that job allowed him to develop a side hustle in affiliate marketing, where (at his apex) he managed over 100 affiliate sites simultaneously, allowing him to turn his side gig into a full-time one. When his time in affiliate marketing came to an end, he segued into SEO for attorneys, while also having time to become a top-ranked online poker player. Connect with Chris Dreyer:  Website: https://www.pimcon.org/Email: chris@rankings.ioShow: https://chrisdreyer.co/podcast/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiRS7BCssVkGrxcNsxCCa6QLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisdreyerco/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chrisdreyerco/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisdreyerco/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Steven Dimitt discuss:Why you need to niche down in order to grow and succeed. Transitioning your practice area and successfully rebranding. Focusing on relationships during a transition in your career. Broadening your business development.  Key Takeaways:When you focus on a niche, it brings credibility to you as a lawyer and comfort to your clients because they know you're the best. Maintaining relationships and having conversations with people over time, making a transition is not going to be a surprise. Work with people you trust and it will allow you to maintain relationships, even as you focus only on the areas of law you want to focus on. As you maintain your business development, you're going to be planting seeds and getting yourself into a position of freedom in your career.  "People are in different transitions in different times, whether it's switching practice areas or the lifecycle of your career. We have some clients who used the same attorney for 40 years and he's about to retire and now they need to find somebody else. You never know, so you just keep the contacts and it might be the right place at the right time." —  Steven Dimitt Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Charles Gillis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillis/Seven Year Trap by Charles Gillis: https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Year-Trap-Observations-Partnership/dp/0692195661The Game by Alex Hormozi: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjkaUn6QNTZTd2rKxXdy-_I0JDHlwdy6j About Steven Dimitt: Steven focuses on representing local, regional, and national commercial clients on matters relating to real estate, land use/zoning, and construction. Beginning with site selection and continuing throughout the construction, lease-up, and ultimate sale of the project after final completion, Steven deals heavily with all aspects of real estate development. Steven was previously a partner at one of the largest law firms in Texas. However, he moved to Platt Richmond to partner with other ex-big law attorneys to continue to provide high-quality service while being more cost-effective for his clients.  Connect with Steven Dimitt:   Website: https://plattrichmond.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-dimitt-52a13916/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/plattrichmond/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Eddie Dabdoub discuss:Falling in love with your practice area but remembering it is a business.Transitioning from general law practice to a niche law practice.Getting buy-in from your team for the law firm growth.Taking care of your team to stop the turnover. Key Takeaways:There is a barrier of entry for those transitioning from a PI practice to a Disability Insurance practice.If you structure your practice like a well oiled machine, even less lucrative niches will pay off financially.Build a core team that allows your firm to grow together. Even when you're in different rolls, you want the core team to all be focused on the same business goals.Your firm does not need to be built like everyone else's. You are different, build your firm to reflect what is important to you. "My big advice is, if you want to scale a law firm, breakaway from the traditional model of assigning assistants and paralegals to attorneys. Instead, create different departments (even if they're tiny), train your folks to be experts in that department, and have cases go through those departments as the lifecycle of the case carries it through the firm." —  Eddie Dabdoub Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References:Rules of the Road: A Plaintiff Lawyer's Guide to Proving Liability by Rick Friedman - https://www.amazon.com/Rules-Plaintiff-Lawyers-Proving-Liability/dp/1934833177 About Eddie Dabdoub: Edward Dabdoub is a nationally-known disability insurance lawyer. He is the founder of Dabdoub Law Firm, a firm that specializes in disability and life insurance claims for claimants.Born and raised in Kingston, Jamaica, he is one of five attorneys in his immediate family. Since becoming a lawyer, he has focused his law practice on representing people in this niche practice area and has grown his law firm from less than a handful of employees to a nationwide practice.With Eddie at the helm, Dabdoub Law Firm has litigated and won significant disability and life insurance cases in federal courts. Some notable victories include a win against the NFL Disability Plan for a former pro-football player who was denied disability benefits and recent victory for a liver transplant surgeon who could no longer perform transplant surgeries after sustaining a career-ending injury.Eddie has participated as a guest speaker at law conferences both on local and national stages, discussing disability insurance, life insurance, and ERISA for legal organizations such as the American Association for Justice and the Florida Association for Justice.Eddie is a double-Canes, having obtained an undergraduate degree in Economics and a juris doctor degree at the University of Miami. Before law school, he obtained a Masters in Business Administration from Florida International University. Connect with Eddie Dabdoub:Website: https://www.longtermdisability.net/Email: eddie@longtermdisability.netLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwarddabdoubLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dabdoub-disability-insurance-erisa-law-firm/Twitter: https://x.com/disabilitylawsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dabdoublawfirm Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Mark Silverman discuss:Building client relationships from the start of your career.Bringing your full, authentic self to your client relationships. Being forward with those you've served when asking for referrals. The art of bringing in new work from current clients.  Key Takeaways:Even when you're crazy busy, it is key to reach out to a client or post on LinkedIn or send a text to connect with those in your network. Everybody wins in referrals when there is a transferral of trust. Be honest about where you can add value and where, perhaps, you aren't the best fit for your clients.Find what works for you and stay consistent with it. You are running a business and want to maintain that forward momentum.  "The worst thing you can do, and what will tank your relationship and career quickly, is to sell something that you have no business doing." —  Mark Silverman Read more from Steve at Above the Law: AboveTheLaw.com/tag/Steve-Fretzin/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Matt Campobasso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrc1921/Sales Free Selling Audiobook: https://www.amazon.com/Sales-Free-Selling-Death-Sales-Methodology/dp/B0D9HWPX6W About Mark Silverman: Mark serves as Locke Lord's CMBS Special Servicer Team Leader. When borrowers and guarantors fail to meet their obligations, financial institutions, commercial mortgage-backed securities (CMBS) special servicers and other companies look to Mark to enforce those commitments, in or out of the courtroom. Mark frames and resolves issues involving creditors' rights, loan workouts, bankruptcy and loan enforcement. He advises large, midsized, and small banks; financial institutions; and financial technology companies across the country, as well as the nation's largest CMBS special servicers. Connect with Mark Silverman:  Website: https://www.lockelord.com/professionals/s/silverman-mark-aLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marksilverman3/ :  Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ray Koenig discuss:Developing a successful practice while remaining authentic to yourself. Integrating your charitable and civic pursuits into your successful private practice. Picking your extracurricular organizations intentionally and meaningfully. Benefiting from bar association participation and leadership.  Key Takeaways:Try things you're afraid of - they're never as bad as you think they will be.You don't always need to tell people what type of lawyer you are - for the general public you can build yourself up as a trusted advisor who solves problems. Being part of organizations is not enough - you should be building relationships and participating actively in those organizations. It's not all about you. Be authentic, but also spotlight other people's successes too.  "Pick a board, pick an organization, that's doing the things that you're really interested in, but at the same time, has kind of the audience - the donors, the board members - that are people that you want to get to know for professional reasons as well." —  Ray Koenig Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM, the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Rankings: https://rankings.io/ Episode References: Roy Sexton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/royesexton/@theBar Podcast: https://www.chicagobar.org/CBA/YLS_Law_Students/_theBar_Podcast.aspx About Ray Koenig: Ray Koenig represents individuals, families, financial and medical institutions, charities and governmental agencies in probate, trust, and guardianship controversies, including complex matters which require practical solutions. Ray continually provides quality, responsive, and efficient representation to his clients. Ray is dedicated to the needs of his clients, whether that requires aggressive advocacy in a courtroom, skilled negotiations to prevent or conclude litigation, or effective counseling to avoid future trust and estate controversies. Ray seeks ways to resolve difficult issues in the most effective manner possible. His success has resulted in appointments by judges as Guardian Ad Litem and defense counsel by judges in complicated guardianship matters, and as Special Administrator in problematic probate matters. Ray has decades of experience in a variety of aspects of controversies involving trusts, probate, guardianships and related fiduciary issues including will and trust contests, will and trust construction and reformation actions, citations to recover, breach of fiduciary duty claims, charitable disputes, and guardianship litigation. His years of practice have also resulted in his retention as an expert witness in matters involving guardianship and probate issues. His depth of knowledge has been informed by and led to many speaking engagements and publications. Ray serves as Co-Chair of the firm's global Litigation practice, and as an elected member of the firm's Executive Committee. Ray proudly served as Managing Member of the firm's Chicago office from 2011 to 2023. Connect with Ray Koenig:  Website: https://www.clarkhill.com/people/ray-j-koenig-iii/Email: rkoenig@clarkhill.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raykoenig/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/clark-hill-law/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Randa Predergast discuss:Committing to your processes no matter how busy or slow your firm is. Why many lawyers struggle with billing and accounts receivable. Perceived value in your costs with your clients and setting expectations around billing with them. Handling difficult AR and collections with clients.  Key Takeaways:Lack of processes, lack of time, and thinking emotionally about your costs are three of the biggest issues around lawyers receiving their proper payments. Lawyers make exceptions more than any other professional industry leading to higher levels of AR. You are not being exceptional when you make exceptions.You can have your clients on ACH and autopay as long as it is kept securely. This will nearly eliminate your AR. Book keeping and collections should not be done by the attorney. They are delegatable to other professionals. "We want to remove the attorney from this process as much as possible. I only like to bring them in on making decisions about stopping work because of non-payment. So all the tasks up until that point should really go to a legal assistant, admin, billing clerk, or something of that sort, not even a paralegal." —  Randa Predergast Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM, the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Rankings: https://rankings.io/ Episode References: The Go-Giver by Bob Burg & John David Mann: https://thegogiver.com/ About Randa Predergast: Providing expert services in law firm and case processes (including implementation and training), paralegal support, and billing clerk services on a 1099 basis. Connect with Randa Predergast:  Website: https://mrsjunelegal.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mrs-june-legal-llc/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/attorneywhisperer/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@attorneywhisperer Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Phil Fornaro discuss:Following the flow of everything in the industry. Understanding who your community is leveraging them. Core mistakes people make when networking. Building trust and providing value to clients in legal services. Key Takeaways:People are interested in talking about what they do, but if you're not listening, you can't figure out what their problem is, and you can't help them. Being a giver is great, but making it reciprocal with networking partners is even better. Giving your card at an event is like 1/10 for making something out of it. Making a connection and writing down information on their card with a follow-up later increases that drastically. The key to conversion is to provide a solution.  "Client development and business development have resulted in my best and most fulfilling relationships." —  Phil Fornaro Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM, the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Rankings: https://rankings.io/ Episode References: Phil Fulton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipfulton/Doug Sandler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-sandlerKen Levinson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenlevinsonatty/Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell: https://www.buybackyourtime.com/ About Phil Fornaro: Philip M. Fornaro, a seasoned legal professional with 29 years of experience, serves as the Managing Attorney at Fornaro Law. His commitment extends beyond the practice of law; it's about delivering comprehensive solutions, fostering structure, and forging meaningful connections. Philip's ultimate aim is to enhance and optimize every situation, ensuring that everyone involved experiences profound satisfaction throughout the entire process and embraces the end result. Connect with Phil Fornaro:  Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw/Light Bulb Moments Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/it/podcast/light-bulb-moments-its-all-about-the-energy/id1748362429 Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and MerriLyn Gibbs discuss:Staying focused on your goals.How Assistants 4 Hire works differently from a recruiting firm to help your law firm succeed.The art of delegation.Business lessons from the game of golf.How you show up every day will determine the results you get. Key Takeaways:Delegation starts slow - you don't have to delegate and forget, you can start with smaller tasks and check the work before the trust is built and you can truly let go of those tasks.If you're looking for easy lead generation, start with your existing clients - reach out to them first, that's where the low-hanging fruit is.Recognize the value in the bad shots - it's not about how good your good shots are, it's how quickly you can recover from the mistakes.Making mistakes is important. The key is not to keep making the same mistakes over and over. "There's so much more learning in the errant shots. And that is what makes you a better golfer. Because the next time you see that, it's easier and easier and easier. And it's really fun when you pull off those impossible shots." —  MerriLyn GibbsTake the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM, the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: You Are a Badass at Making Money: Master the Mindset of Wealth by Jen SinceroAbout MerriLyn Gibbs: MerriLyn's passion is simple: she is driven to help her fellow business owners thrive by empowering them to focus on what they love. As founder and owner of Assistants 4 Hire, MerriLyn has plenty of experience with managing her team and assessing the needs of her clients - but it doesn't stop there! She also offers business seminars and productivity coaching for those not in need of outside assistance. Her know-how and unrelenting attention to detail make MerriLyn a pro at setting others up for success. Connect with MerriLyn Gibbs:  Website: https://www.assistants4hire.net/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/merrilyn-gibbs-50283642/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/assistants-4-hire/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/merrilyn.gibbsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Assistants4hireInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/assistants4hire/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Nathan Ohler discuss:Moving past the status quo to something different.Saving yourself pain and frustration by crowdsourcing your problems with peer advisory groups.Topics that come up frequently in lawyer peer advisor groups.Top benefits of peer advisor groups for the members. Key Takeaways:In peer groups, you can realize that your firm's problems are not unique to you and those problems are solvable.Goals and tactical plans are related but are not the same thing. You need to have a tactical plan in place to achieve your goals. It is 2% about the goal and 98% about the tactics and habits.Finding and retaining talent now, both young attorneys and support staff, is different than it was in the past.There are many different ways that peer groups or masterminds - not every type will work for every person, but there is a benefit in actively participating in these groups. "It is just linking back to these problems, and getting solutions to them. Hearing what is working from my peers who are living something similar to what I'm living. And I want to hear a diversity of solutions. So then I can go internalize which of those I want to test out. That environment of being able to hear not just one example, but maybe 10 is really powerful." —  Nathan Ohler Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM, the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Atomic Habits by James ClearGetting Things Done by David AllenProVisors: https://provisors.com/Sleep: Redefine Your Rest, for Success in Work, Sport and Life by Nick Littlehales About Nathan Ohler: Nathan Ohler is the President/COO of Nuooly, an exclusive Community for experienced independent/small firm professionals, such as attorneys and accountants. With prior experience on Wall Street and as an executive of multi-billion dollar businesses, he now focuses on enabling Nuooly member success by facilitating peer connections and providing business assistance. Connect with Nathan Ohler:  Website: https://www.nuooly.com/Email: nathan@nuooly.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-ohler/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuooly/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Karl Seelbach discuss:The way you do one thing is the one way you do everything.Building out and being consistent with expectations through SOPs and accountability charts.Setting aside time specifically to work on your business, not just in it.Hiring a coach to remove your blinders. Key Takeaways:Focus on the solutions - if something goes wrong, look at why and see how it can be fixed.Everyone and every firm is a work in progress. The little things that are sometimes forgotten are the things that need the most attention because they will make the biggest results.You don't have to be the one to wear every hat. You don't have to execute on every idea. Delegate what you can't (or don't want to) do.Attorneys are responsible for the work they file with the court. If you utilize AI the same way you would utilize a paralegal or law assistant, you can let the tech work for you."You can't just keep doing the same thing, it's not going to change, and you're going to burn out and end up in a bad spot. You have to hit the brakes and say, ‘Okay, look, I've got to figure out how to solve this.'" —  Karl SeelbachTake the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Thank you to our Sponsors!Ready to go from good to GOAT? Attend PIMCOM, the inaugural personal injury mastermind conference Sept 15-17, 2024. Use promo code BeThatLawyer to get $200.00 off at https://www.pimcon.org/ Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Traction: https://www.eosworldwide.com/traction-bookeMyth: https://www.emyth.com/Who Not How: https://whonothow.com/ChatGPT Enterprise: https://openai.com/chatgpt/enterprise/Casetext: https://casetext.com/Lexis+ AI: https://www.lexisnexis.com/en-us/products/lexis-plus-ai.pageUnreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara: https://www.amazon.com/Unreasonable-Hospitality-Remarkable-Giving-People/dp/0593418573Mention Steve's name and get $500 off your first deposition or upload at Skribe: https://skribe.ai/ About Karl Seelbach: Karl Seelbach is a LegalTech founder and seasoned litigation attorney with over 17 years of experience in the courtroom, representing clients in personal injury, business, and employment litigation. He is a skilled advocate and a tenacious fighter who handles cases with precision and an eye toward trial from day one. His adversaries describe him as "skilled" and "whip-smart." But Karl's legal expertise doesn't stop there - he's also the founder of Skribe.ai, a software platform for capturing testimony that's changing the game for attorneys and their clients. Prior to launching his own law firm in 2015, Karl worked as a litigation partner at one of Texas' largest law firms, Winstead PC, where he was mentored by some of the state's top litigators, including former appellate judges and veteran trial lawyers. Karl received his law degree from South Texas College of Law in Houston and his undergraduate degree from Stephen F. Austin State University. In his free time, Karl enjoys spending time with his wife and daughters in Dripping Springs, Texas as a #GirlDad who proudly cheers on his kids in volleyball, basketball, and more!  Connect with Karl Seelbach:  Website: https://skribe.ai/Email: karl@skribe.aiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwseelbach/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skribe-ai/Twitter: https://x.com/KarlSeelbach Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Chelsea Williams discuss:Why personal finance is so key to living a healthy, balanced life. The formulas for success at your firm and as an individual.The most common mistakes lawyers make around money. Tips for taking control of your money today. How to stay on top of your finances.  Key Takeaways:Watch out for lifestyle creep. It doesn't matter how much you make if you keep spending more than you bring in. Track your money. Having a personal budget is not restricting, it is setting a financial boundary. There are only two ways to change how much money you spend: you can trim the fat (even if it is just a rogue subscription) or through negotiating your expenses. It is the small things that bite into your spending. The biggest takers are Amazon, software, and subscriptions.  "It doesn't just stop at the money story, we have to hold all of our numbers accountable." —  Chelsea Williams Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Thank you to our Sponsors!Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Rocket Money: https://www.rocketmoney.com/Profit First by Mike Michalowicz: https://mikemichalowicz.com/profit-first/Justin Krane: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinkrane/Mindvalley: https://podcast.mindvalley.com/ About Chelsea Williams: Chelsea has invested ten years of expertise into understanding law firm finance in order to create a framework that any law firm owner can follow to achieve time and money freedom. She's uncovered the common mistakes and struggles law firm owners face that keep them from profitability. Her company partners with law firms to establish a solid financial foundation and works with them to build the framework that gets them to a place of financial clarity, direction, and freedom. Connect with Chelsea Williams:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_money_whisper/Website: https://www.yourcoresolution.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelseamwilliams-themoneywhisperer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/core-solutions-group-inc/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chelsea.zeschkeFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/yourcoresolutionInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/core_solutions_group/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Dennis Kennedy discuss:The intersection of the legal system and technology. Utilizing technology in ways that enhance the customer experience.Recognizing where you can free up time to do higher-level legal work. Why every lawyer should have a good, well-utilized CRM.  Key Takeaways:Using technology for things like scheduling meetings, paying invoices, receiving payments, and other things not specific to the legal field is a great place to start if you're unsure of where to begin. There are technology applications that can make your life easier and free up time to do the creative legal work that you want to do. Legal students and younger lawyers are used to using more technology and when they start working, at many law firms, it feels like taking a step back in their use of technology. Don't let the fear of the unknown around technology stop you from leaning into and using it.  "Figure out some problem that you have - something or some way you'd like to make your life easier that you think a technology might be to help you - then decide that you're not going to learn all of the technology, you're just going to learn one thing." —  Dennis Kennedy Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Thank you to our Sponsors!Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Chuki Obiyo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chukiobiyo/Co-Intelligence: Living and Working with AI by Ethan Mollick - https://www.amazon.com/Co-Intelligence-Living-Working-Ethan-Mollick/dp/059371671X About Dennis Kennedy: Dennis Kennedy is the Director of the Center for Law, Technology & Innovation at Michigan State University and a widely-known expert on law and technology. He teaches AI and the Law and other technology and innovation classes at MSU, and also teaches a legal technology literacy class at the University of Michigan Law School. Dennis has co-hosted The KennedyMighell Report podcast since 2006, wrote the book Successful Innovation Outcomes in Law and many other publications, and, before joining MSU, retired as Senior Counsel at Mastercard, where he focused on technology law. Connect with Dennis Kennedy:  Website: https://www.denniskennedy.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dennismkennedyBlog: https://denniskennedy.blog/Podcast: https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/kennedy-mighell-report/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and John Sciaccotta discuss:Building relationships everywhere you go. Connecting authentically and building trust in the community. The time of building relationships and expected outcomes. Breaking out of the billable hour hampster wheel. Controlling your destiny.  Key Takeaways:Get active, get involved, and maintain friendships within the legal practice. Wherever you have a relationship, give them a business card and tell them what you do. Tell them to think of you first. Make significant touches every single day - social media will allow you to do that easier than ever before. Step one is to be a great lawyer. But that's not all there is to building your own business. You will need to understand more about business and sales than law school has led you to believe. It is never too early to start learning networking, relationships, and non-verbal communication. They are the ingredients to success as a human being, as well as in your law firm.  "Life is about needs. If you can identify the need of a potential client or a referral source, and you can fulfill that need, you're going to get what you want." —  John Sciaccotta Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Start with Why Series by Simon Sinek - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VVJF819 About John Sciaccotta: John C. Sciaccotta has more than 37 years of trial and litigation experience advocating for clients in complex civil litigation, arbitration, mediation and business counseling matters with a special emphasis on complex civil trial and appellate cases brought in federal and state courts and tribunals throughout the United States. John represents publicly and privately held domestic and foreign business entities, business owners, lenders, employers, municipalities, government bodies and individuals in transactional matters and disputes, which include: Counseling and advocating for business entities and their owners in disputes involving Business Divorce issues, including corporate control, valuation, corporate squeeze-outs, minority oppression, dissolution actions and breaches of fiduciary duty and business tort claims. In addition, John has been appointed as a Neutral Arbitrator and Mediator for many years to resolve and arbitrate business-related disputes. He serves on the Commercial Panel of the American Arbitration Association's National Roster of Arbitrators. Connect with John Sciaccotta:  Website: https://www.agdglaw.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-c-sciaccotta-7472535Twitter: https://x.com/ScilawFacebook: https://facebook.com/JohncsciaccottaInstagram: https://instagram.com/jcscilaw   Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Erin Andersen discuss:Why lawyers have a hard time finding and retaining great talent.Hiring for personality and culture, not just skills.Hybrid work, salary transparency, and why you should be using LinkedIn to hire your next talent.Seeing hiring as an investment, not just an expense. Key Takeaways:Don't just hire to fill a seat - understand your culture, understand your needs, and hire the right person for that right position.If a firm is open to training in certain areas, a personality fit may be a better hire option for longevity and retention as the person will be the right fit for your firm.Use LinkedIn (and other social media platforms) to scan your hiring candidates. You can learn things that they may not include on their resume, application, or cover letter.Many recruiting firms, like Erin's, have a 90-day guarantee on your hires. Working with a recruiting firm can help you to find the right fit for your law firm. "I think it's actually better to look where you want to be in 10 years, and then backtrack and figure out how to get there." —  Erin Andersen Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com/BTLChallenge! Episode References: Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One by Dr. Joe Dispenza - https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Habit-Being-Yourself-Dispenza-ebook/dp/B006M7A8JI/ Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/ Episode References: Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One by Dr. Joe Dispenza - https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Habit-Being-Yourself-Dispenza-ebook/dp/B006M7A8JI/ About Erin Andersen: Erin Andersen is a hiring specialist for law and accounting firms. She specializes in hiring both support staff and Associate Attorneys on a flat-rate basis to make hiring more accessible for law firms which in return lets them scale more efficiently. In addition, she is certified in workplace culture and therefore makes this a part of her hiring process. Erin offers free consultations which can be booked by emailing: info@yourbrandnetworker.com Connect with Erin Andersen: Email: info@yourbrandnetworker.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yourbrandnetworker/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yourbrandnetworker Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Matt Campobasso discuss:Preventing problems before they have a chance to happen repeatedly. Assessing the risks you want to take when your company is growing and evolving. Pros and cons of private practice versus an in-house career. How to successfully network with a general counsel.  Key Takeaways:Good prevention doesn't eradicate all risks but stops many unnecessary risks. All risks aren't bad, but you want to have the option of which risks you want to take. Working at a larger law firm right out of school allows you to learn from many other lawyers and can give you a broader perspective on different aspects of legal. In your own practice (or in a law firm in general) you want to be working on and building your book of business - rarely are clients going to fall into your lap with no relationship building on your end. When reaching out to a potential client, do your homework first. Try to understand where they are at and what their pain points are.  "I've said this for a long time, the best lawyers know the best way to protect their clients is to know their clients, and there's no better way to know your client from the inside." —  Matt Campobasso Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Upstream: The Quest to Solve Problems Before They Happen by Dan Heath - https://www.amazon.com/Upstream-Quest-Problems-Before-Happen/dp/1982134720 About Matt Campobasso: Matt Campobasso is the General Counsel and Corporate Secretary of Enfusion, Inc., a publicly traded fintech company headquartered in Chicago. He also serves as a member of Enfusion's Executive Committee and as Co-Chair of its Operating Committee. Campobasso joined Enfusion in September 2020 as Deputy General Counsel and assumed the role of General Counsel in November 2022. During his time with Enfusion, the company went public via an October 2021 IPO and is traded on the New York Stock Exchange. As General Counsel, Campobasso oversees a team of nine lawyers who manage Enfusion's legal operations and risk for a global organization with offices in eight countries. The team prioritizes a business-first approach that combines “range” and “upstream thinking” aimed at solving problems before they arise and employing legal strategies that safeguard and advance business strategy. In addition to Enfusion, Campobasso's 18 years of legal experience include time spent as a government prosecutor, as an associate and then partner with Freeborn & Peters (now Smith, Gambrell & Russell, LLP), and, most recently, as general counsel for TruQua Enterprises (acquired by IBM in 2020). Campobasso earned a J.D. from the University of Illinois Chicago School of Law and an undergraduate degree in psychology from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. Connect with Matt Campobasso:  Website: https://www.enfusion.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrc1921/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/enfusion-llc/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Michele Ross discuss:Why patience and time are key to anything worthwhile.Avoiding repeated mistakes and moving forward with improvement.Business management tools to make your law firm more efficient.Building a great team that works toward the same vision. Key Takeaways:You will have to find your way forward from the mistakes you make - and you will make mistakes. Don't let them keep you down.It is a balancing act and, as a law firm owner, the key is removing hats with delegation and technology. You cannot do everything all the time.Understanding your values will help make hiring decisions easier because you know who you are looking for, even if you haven't met them yet.Ask your employees what their goals are - not just within the office, but outside of the office as well. "Be interested in what your employees can contribute beyond just work product. Make them a part of the movement and the vision, because they're the ones that can really open your eyes up." —  Michele Ross Join our interactive webinar, "Quality Over Quantity: Getting More Qualified Clients" on June 11th, and secure your spot today! Sign up now at lawmatics.com/webinars Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Tom Dunlap: Scaling Your Law Firm with Business ExpertsShoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of Nike by Phil Knight About Michele Ross: Michele L. Ross is an experienced business attorney and commercial litigator who focuses her practice in the areas of business law, real estate law, and employment law matters. Having represented a wide range of commercial clients in the transactional arena, as well as in a litigious setting, Ms. Ross' track record of success in and out of the courtroom has consistently helped her to achieve efficient and satisfying results for clients while minimizing the costs and delays that clients seek to avoid.M. Ross & Associates, LLC is located in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey in Bergen County and serves all of Northern New Jersey. Ms. Ross recognizes that the interests and financial position of each client varies considerably, which is why providing uniquely tailored legal solutions, in the most cost-efficient manner, is what distinguishes M. Ross & Associates, LLC from other small law firms.Prior to establishing M. Ross & Associates, LLC, Ms. Ross gained substantial, sophisticated experience in high-stakes employment litigation where she represented several Fortune 500 companies while employed at national and international law firms located in New York City. Today, clients benefit from Ms. Ross' comprehensive legal background and her ability to provide personal attention and individualized service to her clients. Connect with Michele Ross:  Website: https://www.mrossllc.com/Phone: 201-568-2064LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/m-ross-associates-llc/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mrossllc/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/litigationlane/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Kerry Barrett discuss:Being on camera is a requirement - make it work for you.Public speaking and having a camera presence.Tips to do better with camera media content and presence.Performing and speaking to engage your audience. Key Takeaways:When speaking to a group, in person, or on camera, you do not want to fall into legal speak. You need to speak to who your audience (or client) is in a way that they understand.Look at the camera, not at your screen. It gives a connection with the audience that appears you're looking directly at them.Your voice is what creates the connection. Make sure you use your voice to repeatedly bring the audience in.Preparation is key in your webinars. Know what your purpose is, know what your goal is, and keep your audience engaged from start to finish. "You want to have a very specific agenda, you want to have very specific language, and you want to recognize that people tune out if you look like you don't have a specific purpose, or frankly, if you're boring." —  Kerry Barrett Join our interactive webinar, "Quality Over Quantity: Attracting More Qualified Clients" on June 11th, and secure your spot today! Sign up now at lawmatics.com/webinars Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Goal Diggers Podcast with Jenna Kutcher: https://jennakutcherblog.com/goal-digger-podcast/ Connect with Kerry Barrett:  Website: https://www.kerrybarrett.com/  The Kerry Barrett Show Podcast: https://www.kerrybarrett.com/podcast/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IAmKerryBarrettLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/kerrybarrett/Twitter: https://twitter.com/IamKerryBArrettFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/IAmKerryBarrettInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkerrybarrett/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkerrybarrett Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Adrian Mendoza discuss:Flipping the script on sales to professional development. Spending your time in the best way for your skills and interests. The importance of qualifying questions and building the right relationships. Tips for networking effectively.  Key Takeaways:Networking is about building relationships, not just about getting the business. It's planting seeds to see what grows over time. In order to know what to give, you have to listen. Don't be so focused on giving your pitch that you're ignoring what the other person's needs and concerns are. Ask the qualifying questions. If they are not the right fit for you, it would be a waste of your networking time. You can say no and it be kind. You may not be the right fit for someone, but you may be able to introduce them to someone who is.  "If we believe that networking is about developing those relationships that you want, then it has to be based on trust. And if you're not sincere, people will see through it right away. People know when you're when you're putting on a front, when you're putting on an act. And honestly, nobody likes that." —  Adrian Mendoza Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: ProVisors: https://provisors.com/In Our Time Podcast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/598SVYJ2smP8qJlpH29y7Vj/podcasts About Adrian Mendoza: Adrian is the managing partner of Lillig & Thorsness, Ltd. where he leads the litigation group. His practice includes business disputes, trust and estate litigation, fraud claims, and employment law matters. Adrian represents clients in the manufacturing, hospitality, real estate, legal, banking, and construction industries. Connect with Adrian Mendoza:  Website: https://www.lilliglaw.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianmendoza/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lillig-&-thorsness-ltd./ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Erik Reid discuss:Why you should consider international hiring for your US-based company. What to consider in doing remote versus in-house staffing. The red flags to catch if you did make a wrong hiring decision. Changing the stigma around international hiring.  Key Takeaways:Using an aptitude test can help you understand someone's potential within your organization even before you understand if they are the right fit for your organization. Every role is different and different personalities will thrive in those different roles. Communication and clear instructions can give you amazing experiences with virtual staffing and help you delegate the things on your list that are not worth your hourly rate. Any role that can be worked remotely, can be worked internationally.  "If you want to break staffing down into the simplest form, it's 50%. Are they able to do the job? Are they cognitively able to do the job? Do they have the skills for it? And then the other 50% is, are they the right fit for the role? Is the role the right fit for that? And that's very subjective." —  Erik Reid Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Atomic Habits by James ClearHow to become 37.78 times better at anything | Atomic Habits summary (by James Clear) About Erik Reid: Erik Reid is the Co-Founder and Owner of Virtustant, a company dedicated on staffing exceptional international talent with companies worldwide. Starting the venture at 24 in the height of Covid, Erik has built a fully remote global business that staffs hundreds of individuals with dozens of companies. Under his leadership Virtustant has established itself as an innovative tactical solution in the realm of HR, empowering enterprises to expand operational teams swiftly and cost-effectively, ensuring sustained excellence and competitiveness.  Connect with Erik Reid:  Website: https://virtustant.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-reid-b0a077126/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/virtustant/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Josh Branch discuss:Building trust with your network, clients, and prospective clients. Developing your relationships and reputation. The importance of preparedness to trust and likeability. Finding natural affinities for helping to build trust.  Key Takeaways:Building a relationship without trust will not lead to successful, healthy places. Sometimes the truth is painful, but trust is built on honesty with everyone you're talking to.Clients who have trust in their lawyer are more likely to have a great rapport and feel confident in their representation. People can tell when you're feeding them a line and are not going to follow through. The key to trust is reliability and following through on those things you promise.  "What you're demonstrating is that you committed to something and you executed on it. There's a connection that happens when people can really know they can count on you versus just hearing you talk about them counting on you." —  Josh BranchFind out more about the 10 Easy-to-Execute Hacks to Unlock Your Full Potential at: https://fretzin.com/events Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Podcast: Smartless - https://www.smartless.com/ About Josh Branch: Josh's interest in law began at the early age of 16 when he began working in a law firm as a high school student. Attending depositions and being inundated with the legal profession at an early age and with an inherent ability to argue succinctly, it was known by many that Josh would become a lawyer from an early age. Growing up around medical doctors has also proved advantageous for Josh in his legal practice, in that he has learned and become familiar with a person's physiology, which is continually being applied to his practice of personal injury law in Athens. He attended undergraduate school at the University of Georgia and went to law school at Florida Coastal School of Law in Jacksonville, Florida. Josh began his legal career in Pensacola, Florida working at an insurance defense firm, though his passion was always to help individuals rather than corporations. After enduring Hurricane Ivan, he was forced to move from Pensacola and eventually relocated to Athens, Georgia where he is devoted exclusively to pursuing justice for plaintiffs. Dedication to the injured individual's plight remains his devoted pursuit. Connect with Josh Branch:  Website: https://www.thegeorgiainjuryattorney.com/Phone: 706-850-4994LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-branch-a1127624/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-law-office-of-joshua-w-branch-llc/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheLawOfficeofJoshuaWBranch/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelawofficeofjoshuawbranch/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Robert Plotkin discuss:Giving information away. Writing a lead-generating book while maintaining your law practice.Benefits of writing a book above other kinds of content marketing. What to do before publication, during promotion, and after publication.  Key Takeaways:Even if you gave someone your entire process, nobody will be able to execute like you do because you have value to bring to the situation. Break your book down into small, manageable bites. Also, consider sharing some of the information as you go and get feedback as you go so it feels less monumental of a task. Having a good outline in place is crucial - it gives you opportunities to break your script into smaller tasks that can be tackled in your 15 or 20 free minutes. Have multiple ways of distributing your content - audio, digital, and print. People consume content in different ways, but you can also repackage that content in your content marketing.  "The thing about a book is it sends this separate meta message about your clout, your credibility as an expert. I think most lawyers who are writing a book are trying to use it to establish or cement themselves as an expert, a thought leader, someone who knows how to get certain things done for their clients in the law and a book sends that meta message at just order of magnitude higher level. There's another meta message: by someone seeing that you wrote a book, they know you're someone who took the time and has the discipline to write a book. Even if they never read it, that sends a message to them." —  Robert PlotkinFind out more about the 10 Easy-to-Execute Hacks to Unlock Your Full Potential at: https://fretzin.com/events Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: The Paradox of Choice by Barry Schwartz About Robert Plotkin: Robert Plotkin is a patent attorney who has specialized in obtaining software patents for his clients to maximize company value for over 25 years. He focuses on obtaining patents that his clients use to attract investment, generate revenue, and secure successful exits. His clients have gone toe-to-toe against the biggest tech companies in the world in patent litigation and emerged victorious. He is a co-founder of the boutique patent law firm Blueshift IP and is sought out by the world's leading software and AI companies to obtain, enforce, and leverage patents for success.  Connect with Robert Plotkin:  Website: https://blueshiftip.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertplotkin/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blueshift-ip-llc/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jen Lee discuss:Breaking the mold of traditional legal molds within ethical guidelines.Legal models that are changing the game for attorneys. The growing demand for legal services in underserved communities and non-traditional markets. How COVID changed the legal landscape.  Key Takeaways:The billable hour contributes to lawyer burnout and work-life imbalance as attorneys feel pressure to work long hours to pay off high student loans and meet law firm expectations. Some variations for fee models include flat fees, hybrid, unbundled services, subscription models, and passive income (such as a sponsored podcast, a course, a book, etc.). Part of your job as a lawyer is helping your clients accurately understand the costs of your services necessary to solve their problems.Turn off your lawyer brain when thinking about business development. What do you like solving? Build a business model around that.  "The legal profession itself stands in its own way. We've got such a long tradition and history of how things have always been done. It's almost a stodgy profession. We have a lot of regulations on us, and it's hard to come up with ideas to get around those or to be ethical. Attorneys worry about that a lot. We're very conservative with how we look at things." —  Jen Lee Find out more about the 10 Easy-to-Execute Hacks to Unlock Your Full Potential at: https://fretzin.com/events Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: The Energy Bus: 10 Rules to Fuel Your Life, Work, and Team with Positive Energy by Jon GordonTV Show: What We Do in the ShadowsAbout Jen Lee: Jen Lee AKA Rebel Esquire. Once a mild-mannered attorney, now the superhero for lawyers intent on transforming an industry resistant to change. She is redefining the practice of law through innovation, accessibility, and a bold departure from the status quo. Jen is the owner of Lawyer Success Network® and host of the Rebel Esquire™ podcast.  Connect with Jen Lee:  Website: https://www.lawyersuccessnetwork.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebelesquire/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawyersuccessnetworkInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/rebelesquire Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Tom Dunlap discuss:Letting go of the old things to promote the new things. The power in relinquishing control. The two paths to scaling. Finding the right fit for your team, clients, and fees.  Key Takeaways:Having your name on the door makes you the lightning rod for problems. It is not as big of a benefit as most lawyers think. If viable for your firm, consider bringing in non-lawyer team members who can help with the non-legal aspects of running a firm. You have to find the right fit clients in the right stage in the right scope. If some people don't say ‘no' to your fees, you're charging way too little.  "You went to law school to be a lawyer. The highest and best use of your time is the billable hour and getting clients and keeping them happy. If you want to manage a law firm, you should have professionals who work for you doing it." —  Tom Dunlap Find out more about the 10 Easy-to-Execute Hacks to Unlock Your Full Potential at: https://fretzin.com/events Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: The Snowball System: How to Win More Business and Turn Clients into Raving Fans by Mo Bunnell About Tom Dunlap: Tom is the managing partner of a law firm he does not run and is the better for it. Leveraging his time working in terrible law firm and corporate environments, and then leaving law to command a Recon Scout Platoon and Infantry company in the Us Army, together with a series of graduate projects crafted during his last years in an MBA program, much of Tom's time, not practicing law, has been spent building his national firm of more than 80 lawyers from the ground up as a place where lawyers want to be.In his legal practice as principally an IP and government contracts lawyer he has handlednumerous successful bid protests before the GAO and Court of Federal Claims, and  Federal district court jury and bench trials as lead counsel including a $12 million jury verdict in a patent infringement case doubled as a result of punitive damages to $24,635,000 in the Bunch of Balloons case, and a $2,600,000 jury counterclaim verdict in a copyright and commercial litigation dispute over Blackwater. He is the past president of the Loudoun County Bar Association and admitted to the state and Federal bars of Virginia, Maryland, and Washington, DC, VA, and MD and more than 30 other Federal Courts. Tom has repeatedly been a Washington, D.C., and Virginia SuperLawyer (2006 – 2024). Tom received his law degree from Washington & Lee University in Lexington, Virginia and earned an MBA and MS in Biotechnology at the University of Maryland. Outside of law, Tom founded a successful software company for first-person MMORPG gaming, and a biotechnology company, where he was also an inventor on patents are that currently the standard used by NIH for COVID wastewater surveillance (www.ceresnano.com). Tom is also a licensed instrument pilot, PADI Master SCUBA Diver, Freemason, and avid runner, recently completing the 2023 Paris Marathon. Connect with Tom Dunlap:  Website: dbllawyers.comShow: dbllawyers.com/podcasts-seasonsLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tomdunlap & linkedin.com/company/dbllawyersTwitter: twitter.com/DBLLawyersFacebook: facebook.com/dbllawyersInstagram: instagram.com/dbl_lawyers Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Victoria Collier discuss:Thinking about your law practice of the future. Selling a book of business versus an actual business. Balancing future needs with your current lifestyle. Key components of having an exit strategy and preparing your firm for sale. Technology that is supporting law firms to run better.  Key Takeaways:A solo practice is an asset as a business itself, beyond the goodwill and book of business, when the practice is streamlined and built well. Everyone can build assets into their firm, even if they are a solo firm. Focus more on the net revenue, not the gross revenue, and you'll be surprised to see how much your firm can grow and thrive. Clients don't care about the name on the door as much as they just want their problem solved.  "Gross revenue is not where the value is, that's in the net revenue. If you're making decisions based on ‘I want to grow my gross revenue,' then you are making other microdecisions below that, that affect your net revenue, and often it's not in the same direction." —  Victoria Collier Find out more about the 10 Easy-to-Execute Hacks to Unlock Your Full Potential Event at: https://fretzin.com/events Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: 24 Months to Freedom: How Modern Law Firms Use Smarter Staffing Solutions to Fast Track Their Way to Success by Brett TremblyAbout Victoria Collier, Founder and CEO of Quid Pro Quo: Victoria is a seasoned entrepreneur with over 20 years of experience in the legal industry. She is a Certified Exit Planning and Value Builder Advisor and has been coaching lawyers since 2008 on how to add value to their law firms. After building and then selling her own 7-figure law firm in 2020, she founded Quid Pro Quo. It is now her mission to teach others the art and science to creating turnkey law offices, positioning to transition, and selling for profit. Connect with Victoria Collier:  Website: https://quidproquolaw.com/Podcast: https://quidproquolaw.com/smart-lawyers-position-to-transition/  Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1284225722042602/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoria-collier-b10b992/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/victoria-collier-coaching/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VictoriaCollierCoachInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/quidproquolaw Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Miriam Airington-Fisher discuss:Building your business on your own or under a firm umbrella. Embracing an entrepreneurial mindset. Growing and scaling in different ways. Advice for those lawyers going out on their own.  Key Takeaways:You get a higher return when you're the one that you're investing in. Even though we are all important in our own ways, we can still delegate to others. You do not need to be the person talking to every single person on every single issue. Take yourself out of the day-to-day equation. You can do that with technology, a small staff, or a large staff. Regardless of your goals, getting out of the whirlwind counts as scaling. There is never a perfect time to pull the trigger. Draw a line in the sand, bet on yourself, and go do it.  "When you're an entrepreneur and you're in control, you can you can shape how the business looks." —  Miriam Airington-Fisher Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Fireproof: A Five-Step Model to Take Your Law Firm from Unpredictable to Wildly Profitable by Mike MorseThe Game-Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill About Miriam Airington-Fisher: Miriam is a lawyer, firm owner, speaker, and best-selling author. She started a practice in 2016 as a new mom in the middle of a divorce, and over the past 8 years has grown it into a 12-person, multi-million dollar firm specializing in immigration and civil rights. Today, she runs the Virginia-based firm, Airington Law, and consults with lawyers and law firm owners who want to build or scale family-friendly law firms. She is the author of Mom's A Lawyer: How to Start a Firm and Take Control of Your Life.  Connect with Miriam Airington-Fisher:  Website: https://airingtonlaw.com/Website: https://www.momsalawyer.com/Book: https://www.momsalawyer.com/bookLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawyer-like-a-mother/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawyerlikeamother Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Laura Sauter discuss:What branding really is and what it really means. Personal branding to stand out authentically. Building and protecting your reputation and brand. Reflecting on your personal brand and values to elevate your law practice.  Key Takeaways:People hire lawyers, not just law firms. To stand out, you must have your own branding, not just that of the firm. You only know what your brand is when it is reflected to you by those who love you and those who hate you. Dig deep, understand yourself, and be you. That is your biggest differentiator. You don't need everyone as a customer. You just need the right ones.  "No matter what the company, no matter what the size, I'm still going to go through those core values and help those entities, the person or the firm, understand how they are unique within the plethora of offerings out there." —  Laura SauterTake the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: The Power of You by Chris MichaelsThe 4-Hour Workweek by Timothy FerrissThe Brand You by Tom Peters About Laura Sauter: Meet Laura Sauter, a seasoned brand expert, educator, and speaker passionate about the power of personal branding. With over two decades of experience in brand strategy and design, Laura empowers entrepreneurs, non-profits, and seasoned company founders to navigate growth, transition, and conflict with confidence. Laura's expertise lies in strategic brand positioning, naming, corporate identity, and associated marketing. She has consulted for multinational corporations such as Fidelity, Biogen, and TJX, as well as numerous small and mid-sized companies across New England and nationwide. As a dynamic speaker and educator, Laura shares actionable insights and strategies to help individuals and businesses amplify their personal brands. Her approach combines precision, creativity, and empathy to drive tangible results in today's competitive landscape. Whether you're looking to enhance your personal brand or elevate your company's identity, Laura Sauter is your trusted partner in achieving lasting impact and success. Connect with Laura Sauter:  Website: https://agencybel.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-sauter-58a341/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/agency-bel/Twitter: https://twitter.com/agencybelFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/laura.sauter.5/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/agencybelInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/designerlulu/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/agencybel/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and David Aaronson discuss:Why sales has a bad reputation in the legal industry. Being human before selling. Properly utilizing the Universal Seven Principles of Persuasion. Understanding the emotional decision-making that happens before the intellectual decision-making.  Key Takeaways:Sales has changed from hard selling to consultant selling. There is power in social proof and in having authority. What are you doing to build relationships and authority in your area of expertise?Look at what your competitors are doing and be an authority against those competitors. If they are creating lots of content online, you should be as well to compete with them. Do your research on those you want to build relationships with to create unity with something beyond the superficial.  "Just because the seven principles are there, doesn't mean they're going to happen naturally, you have to affect them." —  David Aaronson Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: ProVisors: https://www.provisors.com/HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com/Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman: https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555Yes! By Robert B. Cialdini: https://www.amazon.com/Yes-Scientifically-Proven-Ways-Persuasive/dp/1416570969 About David Aaronson: As the owner of Digital Inbound, David is a Cialdini Institute Certified Coach, trainer, and practitioner, specializing in the field of marketing. Our focus is leveraging the Universal 7 Principles of Persuasion (PoP) to help get more prospects to say yes. We are dedicated to demonstrating how to utilize the 7 PoPs not just for marketing and sales, but for everyday decisions we all make. We utilize insights from both Robert Cialdini, Ph.D. author of Influence, the Psychology of Influence and Daniel Kahneman, Ph.D. winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics and author of Thinking, Fast & Slow. Connect with David Aaronson:  Website: https://www.digitalinbound.com/Email: david@digitalinbound.comPhone: 323-428-2015LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidcaaronson/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-inbound/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Sarah Victory discuss:Building your business without imploding. What to focus on whether you're running a small or large firm.The biggest problems lawyers face when scaling. Getting business and leads from speaking and presentations.  Key Takeaways:Become better in the face of hard challenges. Don't wish your challenges were easier when you can get stronger. You can find great people, but you have to dare to do it. Do something brave every day to grow your business. Hire somebody before you think you need them. You can also look for people outside of the US and are not constrained by only those in your area.At speaking engagements, connect with people before and after. Network, connect, build relationships, and show your expertise.  "I believe there's a form of marketing for everybody. And that usually is something you love to do." —  Sarah Victory Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Finding Your Own North Star by Martha Beck About Sarah Victory: CEO of The Victory Company & international best-selling Author, Sarah Victory, has spoken to over 3000 distinguished audiences, including 3 ½ million people, in Europe, the US, and South America, and is sought after for popular Podcasts, and TV and Radio Shows. She is the author of Double Your Business in One Year or Less! and Do Something Brave Every Day. Connect with Sarah Victory:  Website: https://www.thevictorycompany.com/Email: sarah@thevictorycompany.comBook: How to Be Powerful: Insider Secrets to Brilliant Leadership, Sales, and SpeakingYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@inspiringvictoryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahvictory/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sarahvictory/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inspiringvictory/ Connect with Gary Johnson:  Website: j2marketingconsultants.comEmail: garyj@j2marketingconsultants.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/j2marketingconsultantsTwitter: twitter.com/j2consultants Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Robert Friedman discuss:Focusing on the client and what their needs are, both physical and psychographic. The five questions Robert asks each of his questions.  Setting your aperture appropriately. Understanding your positioning and making it work for you.  Key Takeaways:When you can position yourself precisely, you won't attract everyone, but you will attract the right clients to your firm. You have to do both the strategy work and the research work to know that you're landing in the right space with your branding. If your message is not resonating with your potential referral sources and clients, then workshop it. Ask for feedback and be willing to listen. You don't want to spin your wheels when a simple change could bring business growth. Focus on what makes you unique and make sure that comes across to your clients and potential clients.  "The number one way to differentiate is to really think about what you value and what you stand for and put that upfront." —  Robert Friedman Take the BE THAT LAWYER challenge at Fretzin.com! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: The Win Without Pitching Manifesto by Blair EnnsTake Robert's Brand Strength Assessment for more information: https://www.fearlessbranding.com/resources/ About Robert Friedman: I am the founder of Fearless Branding. I work with experts in law and consulting who are at the top of their game, but whose firms are not realizing their full potential. They want bigger clients and more lucrative cases/engagements but they struggle to get traction with their ideal clients. Here's what I find: Frequently, professional services and consulting firms deliver powerful, unique expertise but they don't reap the rewards because the way they define their value is generic. They're not controlling their own narrative. For over 20 years, I've worked with expert firms to transform the way they present themselves to their market. We define their unique brilliance and develop a winning narrative that answers their prospects' most important question: “Why should we choose you.” My work delivers a complete brand transformation: I deliver firms a new way to talk about themselves and position themselves precisely in the minds of their ideal clients. Deliverables include brand identities, website (including all messaging), thought leadership marketing and guidance for the right language for business development conversations. Results are significant increase in average engagement size, driven by increased clarity and confidence. Before Fearless Branding I was in brand management for Kraft and other major food companies, and I was a “Mad Man” for big New York City advertising agencies. Connect with Robert Friedman:  Website: https://www.fearlessbranding.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfriedmanfearlessbranding/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Andrew Michaels discuss:Matching your branding and headshot to your firm and business goals. Opening the doors to consultation with your headshot. What every lawyer should have in their arsenal of headshots. AI headshots.  Key Takeaways:For internal purposes, you should have a friendly-looking headshot. That may not be what you want for your public headshot. Different variations on your headshot can be used for different purposes in your branding, marketing, and social media. A good impression will work for you. But more than that, everyone deserves to have a professional photo of themselves that they love. A headshot is meant to create a human connection. Using AI removes that humanity from the picture.  "We talk a lot about judging a book by its cover. You're not supposed to do that, but as human beings, that's the way that we're wired. It's just science, at this point, that a good impression will work for you." —  Andrew Michaels Email Steve at Steve@Fretzin.com for a chance to audit one of his exclusive rainmaker round table groups in April! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Get your bonus offer for your Super Lawyer Session at https://www.statestreetheadshots.com/super-lawyerHuberman Lab Podcast - https://www.hubermanlab.com/podcast About Andrew Michaels: Andrew Michaels is a corporate headshot photographer who believes in selling without telling. With his award-winning imagery, Andrew helps attorneys tell viewers they are looking at a winning firm. Running his sessions with direct cues and some timely banter, he guides individuals through a range of expressions to match various content forms - from a warm smile to a game face that says "We fight for you". Having taken over 10,000 headshots, Andrew has developed a system that caters to all personalities, so even the most camera-shy individuals can finally lean into their greatest selling point, themselves. Connect with Andrew Michaels:  Website: https://www.statestreetheadshots.com/Email: andrew@statestreetheadshots.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmichaelschi/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/state-street-headshots/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/andrewmichaelschi/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/statestreetheadshotsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/andrewmichaelschiInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/statestreetheadshots Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Niraj Chhabra discuss:How law firm financial planning is different from the average person. Building a relationship on education first with your financial advisor. Avoiding outgrowing your income. Understanding your expenses now to know what you need for the future. Thinking about and planning for long-term care.  Key Takeaways:Attorneys need more than just retirement planning, but it is often overlooked. Your savings should increase in proportion to your income and everything else. If you think creatively, there are ways to use time and money to your advantage for the future that isn't taxed. Everyone considers monthly costs, but many do not consider seasonal budget items like traveling expenses or holiday budgets.  "Whether you make $100K per year or $1M per year you have the same limits on how much you can put into your 401K and defer on your taxes. So we got to find creative ways to get that money to work outside of the bank account, we have to find creative ways to defer taxes and take advantage of vehicles that other folks may not be taking advantage of." —  Niraj Chhabra Email Steve at Steve@Fretzin.com for a chance to audit one of his exclusive rainmaker round table groups in April! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: The Power of Less: The fine Art of Limiting Yourself to the Essential…in Business and in Life by Leo Babauta: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Less-Limiting-Yourself-Essential/dp/1401309704 About Niraj Chhabra: Niraj Chhabra is the Managing Director of SideBar Advisors. Before launching the firm in 2022, he was an advisor with Ameriprise Financial since 2005, concentrating on clients in the legal profession. His central focus includes family finances, tax and estate strategies, retirement, and financial planning for small businesses. His goal is to help attorneys navigate their unique tax challenges and modify their financial plans as their careers evolve. He does this by offering attorneys holistic financial planning and complimentary educational workshops. Connect with Niraj Chhabra:  Website: https://sidebaradvisors.com/Show: https://sidebaradvisors.com/podcasts/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nirajchhabra/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sidebaradvisors/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SideBarAdvisors/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Sean Klunder discuss:Why law firms tend to run behind other types of businesses in marketing. Understanding your SEO strategy. Individual lawyer marketing versus law firm marketing. Alignment and consistency in messaging in all areas of your firm. Watch out for fool's gold to ensure you're swimming in the blue ocean.  Key Takeaways:There is a difference between Marketing and marketing. Without a strategy, it is all just random acts of marketing.Sales patterns have changed over the last few years. People are taking themselves 60-70% through the sales cycle online digitally before ever contacting the law firm. Identify your unique differentiator. Use the three pillars to help identify that: what do you do, who do you help, and what makes you different.Be targeted to who you're disseminating your message. Where are those targets digitally? Are you also there?  "It is really important to have that strategic focus before jumping directly into the tactical execution." —  Sean Klunder Email Steve at Steve@Fretzin.com for a chance to audit one of his exclusive rainmaker round table groups in April! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Blue Ocean Strategy by W. Chan Kim and Renee Mauborgne: https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Ocean-Strategy-Uncontested-Competition/dp/1591396190 About Sean Klunder: Sean Klunder is a seasoned marketing transformation expert with a particular skill set in digital marketing. He combines his business strategy expertise with marketing transformation and execution to help law firms with explosive growth. Sean has worked with numerous law firms to develop business growth strategies, brand transformations, customized digital marketing strategies, implement the latest digital marketing initiatives, automate marketing using integrated technologies, and build reporting systems to illustrate ROI.Prior to his fractional CMO role, Sean was Senior Vice President of Marketing and Product Management at Korn Ferry International. He was also Vice President of Marketing and Digital Development at World Book (a Berkshire Hathaway company), and Divisional Vice President at ETA/Cuisenaire. For 9 years Sean was also an Adjunct Professor of Digital Marketing at the Lake Forest Graduate School of Management where he developed his own curriculum and trained MBA candidates on strategically growing businesses through modernized digital marketing. Because of Sean's successes in helping law firms develop and implement customized marketing strategies, he developed a proven approach to help law firms strategically grow. Connect with Sean Klunder:  Website: https://www.lawfirm-cmo.com/Email: sklunder@lawfirm-cmo.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sklunder/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/law-firm-fractional-cmos/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Pamela DeNeuve discuss:The importance of empathy, compassion, and a trusted listening ear. Why anxiety, stress, and depression often start in law school. What to do (and not to do) in the morning to have a better day.Overcoming the busyness and stress of being a lawyer.  Key Takeaways:11%, that's 11 out of 100, lawyers are struggling with suicidal ideation. Please know, there is help out there and you are not alone. The conversation and culture need to change in the legal industry. While resources do exist, in many firms, there has been a stigma to any lawyer taking advantage of mental health resources. You must set yourself up for the next day, and that begins before you leave the office. Select what is going to be done first the following morning then there's no question about what is going to happen. Do an hour and a half worth of work before you touch the phone or your email and you will feel like you have momentum to your day. If you can start with meditation before that, it will give you a great foundation to start the day.  "It starts the night before. You've got to prepare, to set yourself up for the next day. How you start your day will determine the rest of your day. You can't be sloppy or haphazard." —  Pamela DeNeuve Email Steve at Steve@Fretzin.com for a chance to audit one of his exclusive rainmaker round table groups in April! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: https://988lifeline.org/Lawyer Well-Being Report: https://lawyerwellbeing.net/the-report/ About Pamela DeNeuve: Pamela specializes in helping lawyers to increase productivity and to scale their law practice while building their book of business. She began coaching lawyers in Los Angeles, California, in 1992. She advocates for attorneys to succeed without sacrificing their mental, emotional, and physical well-being. She created and delivered courses to Bar Associations throughout the USA. She has also spoken internationally to empower the legal profession. Pamela also produced an international podcast, Lawyer of the Week. Pamela has negotiated deals for AM100 law firms. She is a Peer Reviewer for the NATIONAL TASK FORCE ON LAWYER WELL-BEING, published by The American Bar Association in 2017. She is a contributor to Huff Post and Medium and has written over 200 articles regarding Lawyer Well-Being. Pamela's new book published by Globe Law and Business, “Thriving in a Multi-Generational Law Firm: How to Increase Communication and Collaboration Among Lawyers” can be ordered online. #lawyercoach #lawyerwellbeing #stressrelief #productivity Connect with Pamela DeNeuve:  Website: https://www.pameladeneuve.com/Email: pamela@pameladeneuve.comBook: https://www.pameladeneuve.com/bookLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pameladeneuve/Twitter: https://twitter.com/DeneuvePam40790Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pamela.deneuve/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pamelalawfirmstrategist/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pdeneuve/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makinglawyersrich/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Marco Brown discuss:Changing your mindset to overcome limitations placed on you by yourself or your family. Leveraging the knowledge of those who came before you. Learn and implement the sales skills you didn't learn in law school. Leveraging your attorney referral sources.  Key Takeaways:Learn how to sell. Even before you are making it rain, you can turn a potential client into a client through sales and closing. You are not better than sales. As a lawyer, you sell high-level concepts (arguments, negotiations, etc.) every single day. Be aggressive with the sale when you are the right person to help the potential client because you know you can help them solve their problem. Not all referral sources are created equal. Question and qualify potential referral sources to understand how you can help them and they can help you.  "Really successful people curate the people around them. That's perfectly acceptable! You want to be around the people who share your values and who benefit you the most and you can benefit them." —  Marco Brown Email Steve at Steve@Fretzin.com for a chance to audit one of his exclusive rainmaker round table groups in April! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Alex Hormozi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhormoziLee Rosen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leewrosen/Grant Cardone: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grantcardone/The Jordan B Peterson Podcast: https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/Brett Trembly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bretttrembly About Marco Brown: Marco grew up in a small village in Alaska called Cold Bay (population 85). He never did manage to graduate from high school, getting his GED before moving on to college, and eventually graduating with honors from law school.In 2010, Marco and his wife, Demaree, moved to Utah and Marco started Brown Family Law, with no clients and no network, on the floor of their condo. They were $160,000 in student loan debt at the time.Since then, Marco has been awarded Utah Family Law Attorney of the Year, as voted on by his peers in the Utah Bar Association. Brown Family Law has grown and helped over 4000 through divorce and family law situations in Utah, and its expanding beyond Utah to help people in other states.In his free time, Marco spends most of his time with his wife and three kids. He also loves to cook and travel, usually to Italy. For exercise, he does what he enjoys: walking and lifting heavy things and puts them down.#Utah#DivorceAttorney #BrownFamilyLaw Connect with Marco Brown:  Website: https://www.brownfamilylaw.com/Email: marco@brownfamilylaw.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcocbrownTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@divorceattorney Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ashley Robinson discuss:Creating a life on purpose. Niching down your business to focus on who you want to work with. Where lawyers need help with putting their marketing money. Understanding what potential clients (and Google) are seeing when they look at your website. Working with your marketing company to know what's happening now and what the future holds.  Key Takeaways:Plan to be present in your relationships and in your business. Marketing isn't bad, but a lot of nuance and strategy goes into understanding what you need for your firm specifically. You need to understand your goals before you start building your marketing plan. Does your client speak to your greatness? Or does it speak to your client's pain points?  "It's on me to bring you qualified leads, it's on you to be a good lawyer and to convert those leads into clients." —  Ashley Robinson Email Steve at Steve@Fretzin.com for a chance to audit one of his exclusive rainmaker round table groups in April! Thank you to our Sponsors!Lawmatics: https://www.lawmatics.com/bethatlawyer/Get Staffed Up: https://getstaffedup.com/bethatlawyer/Green Cardigan Marketing: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/ Episode References: Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell: https://www.amazon.com/Buy-Back-Your-Time-Unstuck/dp/059342297X About Ashley Robinson: Ashley Robinson is the founder of Green Cardigan Marketing; a boutique marketing agency who specifically targets the unique marketing needs of the legal industry.   Connect with Ashley Robinson:  Website: https://greencardiganmarketing.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyrobinsongcm/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/green-cardigan-marketing/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenCardiganMarketingInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/green_cardigan_marketing/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.