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On this episode of Mormonish Podcast Rebecca and Landon have a fascinating discussion with Brandon Crockett and Alex Criddle about their new proof of concept project "EntheoMagus," a 40-minute documentary delving into the possibility that Joseph Smith and the early Mormons were using psychedelic sacraments.as a means to connect with the divine.This idea is gaining momentum as the mainstream learns more about plant medicines and their effects. Brandon and Alex present a compelling argument for the use of herbs and plants to facilitate group guided vision experiences as well as personal visions as described in early Mormonism. We know you'll find this as fascinating as we did! Our Guest LinksSeer Stoned Productions Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductionsFor exclusive content including the full documentary itself, a digital copy of "The Psychedelic History of Mormonism, Magic and Drugs," exclusive Q&A sessions from our public screenings of the film, research papers including audio and much more check out:EntheoMagus trailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uHmmToTecCheck out the 90 second film trailer here.Seer Stoned Production website:https://seerstonedproductions.com/Find out more about the origin story of our team, upcoming showings and links to plenty of reading material. Debate with Brian Hales: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE7J0y_cPpgThe original debate about the psychedelic origins of Mormonism with LDS apologist Brian Hales on Mormon Book Reviews.Response to debate with Brian Hales:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0L1EHtQOo&tExtended response to debate with Brian Hales hosted on Bryce Blankenagel's Naked Mormonism channel.Higher Powers of Man by Frederick M. Smith:https://ia800707.us.archive.org/9/items/cu31924029193781/cu31924029193781.pdfFrederick M. Smith's (third prophet-president of RLDS church) 1918 PhD dissertation outlining the various methods for achieving "religious ecstasy" inspired by Fred's desire to replicate the revelatory experiences of his grandfather, Joseph Smith. Included in these methods is a section of drugs, specifically peyote use. Alchemically Stoned: https://www.amazon.com/Alchemically-Stoned-Psychedelic-Secret-Freemasonry/dp/0578194007Practicing Freemason and Rosicrucian P.D. Newman reveals the psychedelic secrets of Freemasonry. Early Mormonism and the Magic World View:https://www.amazon.com/Early-Mormonism-Magic-World-View/dp/1560850892D. Michael Quinn's deep exploration into the magical influences and practices of the Smith family. While Quinn did not delve into the psychedelic use of the Smith family, he books referenced here overtly explore psychedelic / psychoactive plant use and their role in the magical experience. Seer Stoned Productions merch store:https://www.redbubble.com/people/entheomagus/shopThe Psychedelic Kirtland Temple Dedication: https://alexcriddle.substack.com/p/the-psychedelic-kirtland-temple-dedication An article by Alex with more details on the Kirtland Temple Dedication and the psychoactive components. Citations to the visions and charges of intemperance discussed can be found in the article. ***How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here: Mormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast ****WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you'd like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast! Contact Mormonish Podcast:...
Have you read D. Michael Quinn's "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View?" On this episode of Mormonish, Landon and Rebecca present a discussion of Quinn's ground breaking book on early Mormonism and folk magic. This was a revolutionary concept when the first edition of the book was published in 1987. Very few members knew anything about the prevalence of folk magic and the occult in the early days of the church and it's importance in the Smith household itself. This book is a must read to truly understand the origins of the church. If you haven't read the book and don't think you want to tackle it, this presentation and discussion offers a great synopsis of the important information in the book. This episode was taped as a spooky Halloween edition of The Good Book Club in October 2022, so don't be surprised by anything you see! PLEASE DONATEMormonish Podcast Donation Info: We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! If you would like to support our podcast financially, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here: PayPal: https://paypal.me/BiblioTechMediaVenmo: @BiblioTechMedia
Did a "magic world view" influence Joseph Smith and the coming forth of the Book of Mormon? The Prophet never denied having once participated in folk practices during his youth, but, as this KnoWhy explores, claims that he was fundamentally influenced by "magical" beliefs is a misleadingly simplistic approach to a very complex topic. Read at bit.ly/know538
On this episode, Dr. Quinn picks up right where we left off in part 1. Mike tells us about his disagreements with the general direction of BYU Mormon History academia. New Mormon History is born as the Church Historian's Archives are opened and a new influx of independent researchers get their eyes on crucial previously-censored documents. Mark Hoffman shaped the realm of Mormon history while the feminizing of the academic field begins to gain serious traction. Quinn publishes articles and reviews in support of the scholarship coming from women's groups concerning women holding the priesthood and then writes his seminal Early Mormonism and the Magic World View. He tenders his resignation then goes into hiding from church authority to evade excommunication. Finally, Women and Authority is published which was plutonium to many scholars who were somehow involved, including Quinn. 5 excommunications and 1 disfellowshipping go down in infamy as the "September Six". Please support Quinn's scholarship by purchasing his books from these fine retailers: Early Mormonism and the Magic World View http://www.signaturebooks.com/product/early-mormonism-and-the-magic-world-view/ Same-Sex Dynamics Among Nineteenth-Century Americans https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/catalog/74dbx6fq9780252069581.html Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power http://www.signaturebooks.com/product/the-mormon-hierarchy-origins-of-power/ Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power http://www.signaturebooks.com/product/the-mormon-hierarchy-extensions-of-power/ Mormon Hierarchy: Wealth and Corporate Power http://www.signaturebooks.com/product/mormon-hierarchy-wealth-and-corporate-power/ Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Legal Counsel http://patorrez.com/
Did early Mormons once dabble in the occult? This episode explores Joseph Smith’s fascination with magical practices, including animal sacrifice and seer stones. Join hosts Lindsay Hansen Park and Bryan Buchanan as they discuss early Mormonism and the Magic World View with acclaimed Mormon historians D. Michael Quinn and Christopher C. Smith. Listen to this …
Did early Mormons once dabble in the occult? This episode explores Joseph Smith’s fascination with magical practices, including animal sacrifice and seer stones. Join hosts Lindsay Hansen Park and Bryan Buchanan as they discuss early Mormonism and the Magic World View with acclaimed Mormon historians D. Michael Quinn and Christopher C. Smith. Listen to this …
Did early Mormons once dabble in the occult? This episode explores Joseph Smith’s fascination with magical practices, including animal sacrifice and seer stones. Join hosts Lindsay Hansen Park and Bryan Buchanan as they discuss early Mormonism and the Magic World View with acclaimed Mormon historians D. Michael Quinn and Christopher C. Smith. Listen to this …
[paypal-subscribe] In 1985 Mark Hofmann's last bomb blew himself up with his own pipe bomb. Shannon Flynn, a good friend of Mark Hofmann describes what bystanders did to save Hofmann's life. It's a pretty interesting story. When Mark had been blown up, he was lying in the street, and I'll give another little strange [story.] This whole thing is just too weird. There were some people in the area that saw that happen. Several of them ran over to him. There was a fellow by the last name of Christensen who saw that and went over. Mark's shirt was torn a bit and he could see garments, so he knew that guy [Mark] was a member [of the LDS Church], pulled out a little vial of oil and gave him a blessing that he would live. Well he did live. I'll let you all think about that one. What do you think about blessing a criminal to live? Did God honor that blessing? But that bomb didn't just severely injure Hofmann, it blew the lid off Mormon history. We'll talk about the Salamander Letter and the magical world view, and how that really changed things for Mormon history. As an example, the Salamander letter, people said that's going to ruin the church. That completely goes against the standard history of the church. It did go against the basic juvenile understanding that most members have of the church, but that particular concept of salamander or toad, he actually took from Mormonism Unvailed.[1] The concept of Joseph being prevented by that, he took it from a Jesse Knight diary. At the end of the day, it was new information, more, but down the same track. It would not, and in fact it has been proved, I mean it isn't a real letter, but I mean my heavens, Michael Quinn some years later with Mormonism and the Magic World View, he confirmed every bit of it, every bit of it; not the particular animal, but confirmed every bit of it. in 1986 or 1987, Curt Bench put together this Errata for Dean Jesse's book The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith to alert readers to 6 Hofmann forgeries. The 2nd edition, published in 2002 has these forgeries removed. [1]Mormonism Unvailed was the first anti-Mormon book, written in 1834 by E.D. Howe. Dan Vogel has written an annotated copy of the book, complete with footnotes reverencing Howe's claims. See http://amzn.to/2fOpjU7 It turns out that home of Hofmann's forgeries ended up in some scholarly books. Dean Jessee published a book called The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith in 1984 that unfortunately contained some Hofmann forgeries. In 2002, Jessee published a 2nd edition of The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith that removed these forgeries. Second edition is available at http://amzn.to/2fVPuM9 . You can listen to Curt Bench's interview discussing the errata at https://gospeltangents.com/2017/05/22/updated-salamander-letter-podcast/ FAIR Mormon notes one of these forgeries was in both Dean Jessee's book, as well as Michael Quinn's book, The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power (Signature Books, 1994). Jessee had included (and Quinn referenced Jessee's book) that a Hofmann forgery was incorrectly included where Joseph allegedly wrote a letter to Jonathan Dunham asking the Nauvoo Legion to rescue Joseph from Carthage Jail. FAIR notes “Deseret Book and Dean Jesse had also released an errata sheet for his Personal Writings of Joseph Smith, which was available by DATE. [citation needed].” Date is probably around 1986-1987 when Hofmann was sentenced to jail. See https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Question:_Did_Joseph_order_Jonathan_Dunham,_head_of_the_Nauvoo_legion,_to_rescue_him%3F retrieved 5 October 2017) What are your thoughts regarding Hofmann's forgeries? Are you surprised that Quinn's book still contained the forgery as late as 1994? What do you think God's reaction was to the blessing Hofmann received? https://youtu.be/DIzkTcrvtXU [paypal-donation]
On this episode, we jump in to part 2 of the Cody Noconi discussion about entheogens. Part 1 established a brief world history of hallucinogen use throughout the 10,000 years we can speculate upon; part 2 focuses on just Joseph Smith and Mormon history, essentially compiling the theory that Jo used hallucinogens for himself and possibly drugged his parishioners to incite spiritual experiences. It may be controversial. It may strain credulity and raise red flags of skepticism. One may call bullshit at the very onset of the discussion, but this is a viable theory that needs to be discussed openly in the public square of Mormon history. If Jo’s use of entheogens helps to explain any aspect of his religion it needs to be a topic of open discourse. If any listeners have competing theories that provide more explanatory power than this, please get in touch with Cody or Bryce and we’ll further this conversation. Links: Luman Walters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luman_Walters Ethan Allen Hitchcock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_A._Hitchcock_(general) Cody Noconi contact information: psilly.rabbits@gmail.com Vogel, Dan. “The Locations of Joseph Smith's Early Treasure Quests.” In Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, p197-231. Heinrich, Clark. “Magic Mushrooms in Religion and Alchemy.” Park Street Press, 2002. Ott, Johnathon. “Pharmacotheon: Entheogenic drugs, their plant souces and history.” Kennewick, Washingtom: Natural Products Co, Second Edition Densified, 1996. McKenna, Terrance. “Food of The Gods: The Search for the Original Tree of Knowledge.” Bantam; Reprint edition, January 1, 1993. Quinn, Michael. “Early Mormonism and the Magic World View.” Signature Books; 2nd Edition, December 1998. Rush, John. “The Mushroom in Christian Art: The Identity of Jesus in the Development of Christianity.” North Atlantic Books, 2011 Richard Schultes, Christian Ratsch, Albert Hoffman. “Plants of the Gods: Their Sacred, Healing, and Hallucinogenic Powers.” Healing Arts Press; 2nd edition, 2001. Tanner, Jerald and Sandra. “Joseph Smith and Money Digging.” Salt Lake City Tribune, Issue no. October 1970. 2. Beckstead, Robert T. “Restoration and the Sacred Mushroom.” Presented at Sunstone Symposium August, 2007. Tanner, Jerald and Sandra. “Mormonism and Magic.” Salt Lake City Tribune, Issue no. 49. December 1982 Fair Mormon Responses - http://en.fairmormon.org/Joseph_Smith/Occultism_and_magic ; 19. Show Links: Scathing Atheist 1838 Mormon Missouri War episodes: https://audioboom.com/posts/5441522-scathingatheist-202-anchor-management-edition Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Outro music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Voicemail Line (864)Nake-dMo (625-3366)
For decades, and heavily over the past ten years, Mormon historians, podcasters, and critics have been urging the LDS Church to be more open and honest about Joseph Smith's use of folk magic and a peep stone/hat in his production of the Book of Mormon text. On August 4th, 2015 the LDS Church released the third volume of the Joseph Smith Papers, which includes the printer's manuscript of the Book of Mormon. It also released photos of the seer stone that Joseph Smith used as a scryer to search for buried treasure, and that he also placed in a hat to produce the text for the Book of Mormon. (for detailed discussions of Joseph's use of a seer stone in the Book of Mormon's creation, see CES Letter, Mormon Think, or D. Michael Quinn's "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View." An October 2015 Ensign article is set to appear called "Joseph the Seer" which attempts to explain Joseph's practice of using a seer stone. In this episode John Hamer, J. Seawright, Micah Nickolaisen, Jamie Hanis Handy, and Jonathan Streeter join us to analyze these events.