Podcast appearances and mentions of Dan Vogel

In a recent episode on the YouTube channel Hello Saints, Jeff McCullough interviewed Jasmin Rappleye (who got her degree from BYU in Ancient Near Eastern Studies) about one of Mormonism's most controversial scriptures: the Book of Mormon. During the discussion, several apologetic approaches to the Book of Abraham was presented. In this episode, we examine three of the most common theories used to defend Joseph Smith's translation:-The Missing Scroll Theory-The Long Scroll Theory-The Catalyst TheoryDrawing heavily from Dan Vogel's groundbreaking book Book of Abraham Apologetics, we carefully review the historical evidence surrounding these claims, including the eyewitness accounts frequently cited by defenders of the Long Scroll Theory. Do these accounts actually support the evidence of a lengthy missing papyrus containing the Book of Abraham? Or have they been selectively interpreted to fit a predetermined conclusion? Along the way, we examine the work of prominent Egyptologists, discuss the relationship between Joseph Smith's translation claims and the surviving papyri, and explore why even faithful scholars have increasingly moved away from defending the Book of Abraham as a literal translation of the existing Egyptian texts. Join Kolby, Nemo, and Julia as they work through the evidence, compare competing apologetic arguments, and ask what explanation best fits the historical record.In our next episode, we'll examine a fourth and increasingly popular theory: that the Book of Abraham preserves authentic ancient Jewish traditions about Abraham and may contain an ancient core despite not being a direct translation of the surviving papyri. ___________________YouTubeShow NotesAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals.  Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions

In a recent episode on the YouTube channel Hello Saints, Jeff McCullough interviewed Jasmin Rappleye (who got her degree from BYU in Ancient Near Eastern Studies) about one of Mormonism's most controversial scriptures: the Book of Mormon. During the discussion, several apologetic approaches to the Book of Abraham was presented. In this episode, we examine three of the most common theories used to defend Joseph Smith's translation:-The Missing Scroll Theory-The Long Scroll Theory-The Catalyst TheoryDrawing heavily from Dan Vogel's groundbreaking book Book of Abraham Apologetics, we carefully review the historical evidence surrounding these claims, including the eyewitness accounts frequently cited by defenders of the Long Scroll Theory. Do these accounts actually support the evidence of a lengthy missing papyrus containing the Book of Abraham? Or have they been selectively interpreted to fit a predetermined conclusion? Along the way, we examine the work of prominent Egyptologists, discuss the relationship between Joseph Smith's translation claims and the surviving papyri, and explore why even faithful scholars have increasingly moved away from defending the Book of Abraham as a literal translation of the existing Egyptian texts. Join Kolby, Nemo, and Julia as they work through the evidence, compare competing apologetic arguments, and ask what explanation best fits the historical record.In our next episode, we'll examine a fourth and increasingly popular theory: that the Book of Abraham preserves authentic ancient Jewish traditions about Abraham and may contain an ancient core despite not being a direct translation of the surviving papyri. Show NotesYouTubeMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

Hey everyone, I'm Dives, and welcome back to The Mormon News Roundup.Today, we're breaking down a fascinating deep-dive from historian Dan Vogel on one of the most iconic claims in Mormonism: the Book of Mormon gold plates.His original video runs over an hour—but in this episode, I cut through the noise and give you the most important insights in a clear, digestible format.

In April 2020, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints released a “Now You Know” video explaining the gold plates—the foundation of the Book of Mormon. But how complete is that explanation?In this video, we walk through the Church's presentation line by line, comparing it with historical sources, primary documents, and modern scholarship. What emerges is a pattern: simplified storytelling, selective framing, and major unanswered questions.We examine:The evolving accounts of Joseph Smith's First VisionThe timeline inconsistencies surrounding Moroni's visitThe physical plausibility of the gold plates (weight, size, transport)The seer stone in a hat vs traditional translation narrativeThe “caractors” document vs stylized “reformed Egyptian”The role (or lack thereof) of the plates during translationContradictions and complexities in the witness testimoniesThe absence of archaeological support for large metal recordsAnachronisms within the Book of Mormon itselfIf the gold plates were meant to serve as tangible evidence, why were they rarely used in the translation process—and why were they never made broadly available for examination?This video doesn't just critique—it compares claims to evidence, and narrative to historical record.

We’re diving deep into the First VIsion accounts with Historian Dan Vogel. He offers a deep dive into the historical developments of early Mormonism, challenging both critics and believers to look closer at the documents. What if Joseph Smith was neither a simple con man nor a traditional prophet, but something more complex? https://youtu.be/uVVJcgmyUKA Don't miss our other conversations on the First Vision: https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/first-vision/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved “Pious Fraud” Theory Vogel describes himself as a “moderate” critic who seeks the most charitable view of Joseph Smith that a non-believer can hold. He proposes the theory of “pious fraud,” viewing Smith as an “inspired pseudepigraphist”. In this framework, Smith believed he was genuinely called by God to teach true doctrine but used intentional deception—such as the physical gold plates—to provide “evidence” that would make it harder for others to reject his message. Vogel compares this to a faith healer who uses suggestion or minor “tricks” to raise an audience’s faith level so that they are prepared to receive what they believe are real miracles. For Smith, the “greater good” was the salvation of his followers and the conversion of his own family. Evolution of the First Vision One of the most significant points of Vogel's research is the evolution of the First Vision narrative. He highlights that the earliest recorded account from 1832 is markedly different from the canonized 1838 version. The 1832 Account: This version mentions only one personage (Jesus) and focuses on Smith's personal remission of sins. There is no mention of a revival or a command to stay away from all churches; rather, Smith had already concluded the churches were wrong by the age of 12. The 1838 Account: This version, written during a time of intense persecution in Missouri, includes the 1820 revival and a mandate that all other creeds were an “abomination”. Vogel argues that the 1820 date for the revival is anachronistic, noting that historical records place the great Palmyra revival in 1824–25. He suggests Smith moved the event back in his history to transform a personal “born-again” experience into a foundational event for the entire Church. Priesthood and the “Chain of Ordinations” Angelic ordinations were likely a later development. Vogel asserts that early on, authority was understood as a direct command from God through a seer stone or revelation, rather than the laying on of hands by angels. It wasn’t until around 1834–35 that detailed stories of John the Baptist and Peter, James, and John appeared in the records. Vogel posits these stories were introduced to solidify Joseph Smith's authority against internal challengers and to create a formal “chain of ordinations” that was harder to break. Theological Shifts: From One God to Three Vogel tracks a clear evolution in Smith’s theology regarding the nature of God: Modalism: The Book of Mormon reflects a view where Jesus is both the Father and the Son. Bi-theism/Trinitarianism: The Lectures on Faith (1835) describe God as a personage of spirit and the Son as a personage of tabernacle. Physical Personages: Only later, in the Nauvoo period, did Smith teach that both the Father and the Son have physical bodies of flesh and bone. We'll dive deeper into all 4 First Vision narratives. Check it out!

Historian Dan Vogel breaks down the complex history of the Book of Abraham, beginning with the 1835 purchase of Egyptian mummies in Kirtland, Ohio. Rather than seeing the Kirtland Egyptian Papers as a failed attempt by scribes to understand Egyptian, Vogel argues they were Joseph Smith's own working papers. He demonstrates how Smith used these documents to “brainstorm” a new theological framework, allowing him to introduce doctrines like the priesthood ban and the plurality of gods under the guise of an ancient text. This is a replay of my 2019 interview with Dan. https://youtu.be/sFKoRTTZ4SU Don't miss our other conversations with Dan: https://gospeltangents.com/people/dan-vogel Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Arrival of the Mummies and Papyrus The story begins in July 1835, when Michael Chandler arrived in Kirtland with four mummies and several papyrus scrolls. Joseph Smith purchased the collection for $2,400 and quickly identified the records as the writings of the biblical patriarchs Abraham and Joseph. Vogel notes that while Smith identified these as ancient records, they were actually Egyptian funerary texts, specifically the “Book of Breathings” (belonging to a priest named Horus) and the “Book of the Dead” (belonging to Ta-Sherit-Min). “Brainstorming” Book of Abraham Translation A central part of the discussion involves the Kirtland Egyptian Papers, which include “Alphabet” and a bound “Grammar” volume. Vogel disputes the apologetic theory that these documents were a failed attempt by scribes to reverse-engineer Smith’s translation. Instead, he argues they were Smith's own working papers used to “brainstorm” theological concepts. According to Vogel, Smith used these documents to develop complex ideas—such as a priesthood lineage and an Egyptian-themed cosmology—before dictating the final text. Evidence of Oral Dictation Vogel presents compelling evidence that the Book of Abraham was orally dictated. He points to manuscripts where scribes Frederick G. Williams and Warren Parrish wrote simultaneously, making the same in-line corrections as Smith changed his mind about specific wording. Furthermore, the scribes used phonetic spellings for names like “Alcanor” or “Elkenah,” which reflected Joseph Smith's distinct New England non-rhotic accent (e.g., dropping/adding the “r” sound). Filling the Gaps: Invented Characters One of the most significant findings involves the lacunae, or missing portions of the papyrus. Vogel asserts that where the scroll was damaged, Smith invented characters to fill the gaps. These invented characters were then transcribed into the translation manuscripts and given lengthy English definitions that ended up in the Book of Abraham. This suggests that the surviving fragments—which match these characters—were indeed the source material Smith was using. Theological Projection The Book of Abraham served as a tool to introduce new doctrines that Smith was building into the Church's structure. Vogel explains how the cosmology of the stars (like Kolob) mirrored the ecclesiastical structure of the Kirtland Temple. The three ruling planets and twelve others corresponded to the three presidencies and the twelve members of the High Council. In this way, Smith projected his 19th-century priesthood concerns back onto an ancient patriarchal narrative0. Critique of the “Long Scroll Theory” Finally, Vogel addresses the modern apologetic “Long Scroll Theory,” which posits that the Book of Abraham was on a portion of the papyrus that was destroyed in the 1871 Chicago Fire. Vogel argues this is a “fallacy of possible proof”. He maintains that the documentary evidence—specifically the way the characters in the margins of the translation manuscripts match the surviving fragments—proves that Smith was translating from the documents we still possess today. Don't miss our other conversations with Dan: https://gospeltangents.com/people/dan-vogel Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved

My Mormon bishop friend recently presented a lecture about how statistics show that the Book of Mormon defies naturalistic explanations. How did Joseph Smith as a "subsistence farmer" write something so amazing and long in only 65 days?Let's jump into some of these statistical claims to see if the Book of Mormon is truly a miracle and that it shows that Joseph Smith had to be translating an ancient record.Sources Cited:"The Insane Statistical Impossibility of the Book of Mormon's Origin | Matt Vallejo"Pomeroy Tucker, Origin, rise, and progress of Mormonism (pp. 17-18)Dan Vogel, Early Mormon Documents (p. 130)"Captain Kidd: Joseph Smith's hero?" Analyzing MormonismLucy Mack Smith, History (p. 87)"Appendix: Docket Entry, 20 March 1826 [State of New York v. JS–A]"Wendy Lu, "How I Won NaNoWriMo While Working A Full-Time Job," Wendy Lu Writes, February, 29, 2020.We value your feedback!Have questions for Truthspresso? Contact us!

Dan Vogel, founder and CEO of Flourish Fund, has carried a lifelong passion for solving big social problems that are close to the heart of God. As a young boy, Dan was drawn to leadership that would make an improved difference in the systems that were meant to address those problems. From the White House to overseas to a consulting firm in Boston, Dan's extensive professional background working in government, economic development, and nonprofit realms, all set the stage for the launch of Flourish Fund.   Flourish Fund is a giving fund that channels pooled capital from givers alongside extensive problem area research to bring about large, system level change. Flourish Fund's unique effectiveness is found in their focus on collaborative giving and cooperation between organizations, both faith-based and secular, who offer various approaches toward the same goal. Their first fund called Flourish Children and Families is focused on reimagining the foster care system, and they've already made impressive progress.   Major Topics Include: Dan's faith and career journey The story of Flourish Fund Traditional philanthropy vs Christian philanthropy  The need for growth in impact assessment in Christian giving spaces What Flourish Fund is about and how it works Tackling big social problems that matter to the heart of God Reimagining foster care in the US with Flourish Fund Building strategy and success evaluation into the fund structure The portfolio approach to collaborative giving Doing collaborative giving well Three strategic opportunities to move the needle in foster care Navigating collaboration between secular and faith-based organizations Knowing where to channel resources  Deciding where to focus next What to look for in a giving fund Tips or givers to engage with the problems that are on God's heart QUOTES TO REMEMBER “I became convinced that there was room in the marketplace for a new kind of Kingdom problem-solving institution that was trying to connect capital differently with social innovators who were trying to do good work in the name of Jesus.” “What might it actually take to move the needle?” “No individual organization, even if they are crushing it, is capable of solving a systemic problem on their own.” “How might we think differently about what is possible for what we can do together?”  “Collaborative giving is the next frontier of effective stewardship”. “We want to enable people to have proximity to the problem rather than putting distance between the giver and the receiver.” “We want to enable and strengthen local ecosystems of care that are anchored by the Church, working in partnership with community organizations, government, and volunteers doing different sets of things to meet the physical, emotional, spiritual, and relational needs of vulnerable kids and families.” “When Christians have been at their best through the ages, we've tended to build big tents and work with odd bedfellows. We have unique things that we can bring to bear, but we can't to it alone so we have to figure out how to work with a bunch of different people, and if we can do that well, it will point people back to Jesus.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW Flourish Fund Flourish Children and Families Flourish Children and Families Blueprint Al Mueller, Founder and President of Excellence in Giving (see our past interview here) Simple Charity (see our interview with CEO Brian Grasso) EIG Insights (see our interview with cofounder Kate Williams-Whitley) Praxis IllumiNations Bible Translation Alliance (see our interview with Todd Peterson or John Chesnut) Project Belong The Contingent Solving the World's Greatest Problems The Finish Line Community Facebook Group The Finish Line Community LinkedIn Group   WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! If you have a thought about something you heard, or a story to share, please reach out! You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. You can also contact us directly from our contact page. If you want to engage with the Finish Line Community, check out our groups on Facebookand LinkedIn.

What does John Turner believe about the Golden Plates? Were they made of tin as Dan Vogel asserts? What about the First Vision controversy? Does John think Joseph was a pious fraud? Did Joseph take advantage of Martin Harris? John answers these and other question. Check out our conversation... Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission What Did Joseph Smith Really Have in that Box? Historian John Turner, author of Joseph Smith, The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet, delves into the enduring mystery surrounding Joseph Smith's golden plates and the origins of the Book of Mormon. His insights offer a nuanced perspective, moving beyond simple pronouncements to a historian's critical examination. The Golden Plates: A Historian's Best Judgment When it comes to the golden plates, Turner makes a clear distinction between visionary experiences and material objects. While he acknowledges that understanding Joseph Smith's visions is difficult as a historian, dealing with a physical claim like the golden plates is different. Turner's "best judgment" as a historian is that Joseph Smith did not have actual golden plates. However, he strongly believes Joseph did engage in a "certain amount of subterfuge". Joseph clearly possessed some sort of physical object which he would place in a box, heft around, and at times cover with a linen cloth. Others, including Emma Smith, witnessed an object that seemed like "thin sheets of metal under a linen cloth," suggesting some form of metallic object. For Turner, the simplest explanation for a young man claiming to have a valuable object he can't show to anyone else is that he doesn't have it. This conclusion is also reinforced by his reading of the Book of Mormon as a 19th-century text, rather than an ancient record. If it's a 19th-century text, golden plates aren't necessary, making it "more likely" that the text "flows out of Joseph's literary imagination". Turner emphasizes that this critical examination is not meant to be disrespectful to faithful Latter-day Saints, but rather a serious approach to studying the tradition. The Search for Alternatives: Not Enough Evidence The question of what Joseph might have had in the box has led to various theories: Dan Vogelhas suggested the object might have been made of tin. Sonia Hazard, another scholar, theorizes that Joseph could have encountered printing plates, which served as an inspiration for the project and could have been the object in the box. However, Turner states that there is not enough evidence to support any of these alternative theories. While these are "suggestive possibilities," he concludes, "we can't know. So, I think we have to leave it as a bit of a mystery". He also clarifies that for him, the "absence of evidence for any alternative explanation is [not] evidence for the faithful account". Audacity Over Deception: The Book of Mormon Project Despite his view on the golden plates, Turner doesn't primarily see Joseph Smith as a "fraud," "deceiver," or "impostor". While he acknowledges an "element of deception that gets it off the ground," his main takeaway from the Book of Mormon project is its utter improbability and audacity. Turner describes it as a "hairbrained scheme" that Joseph "pulls off". He points out that it was "utterly unlikely" for a 21-year-old Joseph Smith, without formal education, to embark on such a project and publish a 600-page book. This remarkable literary success, while not a bestseller at the time, certainly had "serious legs". Turner sees this as "an act of audacity" rather than primarily an "act of deception," crediting Joseph Smith with this incredible literary production. Assessing Joseph's Sincerity The question of Joseph Smith's sincerity is complex. Turner generally tries to avoid weighing in on Joseph's sincerity at any given moment,

Fawn Brodie, Richard Bushman, and Dan Vogel have the 3 most popular biographies on Joseph Smith prior to John Turner's latest. Which is best? John will answer that and we'll discuss the First Vision anachronisms. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/BOTVrDQJGbc Don't miss our other conversations with John: https://gospeltangents.com/people/john-turner/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission Landscape of Joseph Smith Biographies John Turner is author of "Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet. Dr. Turner's book enters a field rich with extensive scholarship. He notes that the main biographies over the years include Fawn Brodie's "No Man Knows My History," Richard Bushman's "Rough Stone Rolling," and works by Dan Vogel,[1] Richard Van Wagoner,[2] and Martha Bradley.[3] Fawn Brodie's "No Man Knows My History": Published in 1945, Brodie's work is recognized for her "fantastic writing"and remarkable achievement given her limited access to sources available today. While now "out of date,"it was incredibly popular, with Richard Bushman himself acknowledging its enduring "perch" as a favorite among readers, perhaps due to Brodie's skills as an English major and great writer. She was technically Mormon but very critical of Joseph Smith. Richard Bushman's "Rough Stone Rolling": Dr. Turner expresses "enormous admiration"for Richard Bushman as a person and scholar. Bushman's biography "expertly contextualizes Joseph's life in the culture of the early 19th century United States"and benefits from tremendous access to sources, though notably, it predates the availability of the Joseph Smith Papers. Over the last two decades, "Rough Stone Rolling" has become the "go-to biography for any scholar or seriously interested party in Joseph Smith.” Bushman's work was seen as a more "faithful perspective" in contrast to Brodie's critical stance. Dan Vogel's Contributions: Dr. Turner highlights Dan Vogel as a "really diligent researcher"whose "Early Mormon Documents collection"[4] was an "essential resource for historians"before the Joseph Smith Papers. Vogel's works, including "Joseph Smith, The Making of a Prophet" and "Charisma Under Pressure," mark him as "one of the more significant historians of Mormonism" in this generation. While his books may not have achieved the wide readership of Brodie's or Bushman's, their scholarly value is undeniable. Dr. Turner clarifies that he didn't write his biography because existing ones were "inadequate" or "stink.” Instead, he aimed to write a "different one" that might be "better or does justice to different parts of Joseph's personality.” His approach involved immersing himself in the sources, particularly the Joseph Smith Papers volumes and website, and reading the latest scholarship, rather than directly positioning his work against others. He trusted there would be "room for my perspective from my position.” Unpacking Joseph Smith's Early Life When discussing Joseph Smith's early life, Dr. Turner notes a significant challenge: "we know very little" about the period before 1829. Scarcity of Sources: Most of what is known comes from a small number of sources, or at least only a few that detail events. Lucy Mack Smith's Biography: While a "great source,"Lucy Mack Smith's dictated biography from 1844 (decades after many events) is often the "only source we have to go on,"which presents a "little troublesome" limitation. Joseph Smith's Own Accounts: Joseph himself did not discuss his childhood in any great depth in his histories, only occasionally alluding to it in sermons. Conflicting Recollections: Early accounts of Joseph from Palmyra were often "filed up and divergent," coming from individuals who "were not too impressed with Joseph Smith and his family.” No Prefigured Greatness: Dr. Turner emphasizes that "there was nothing that pr...

Referencias: - Obituario de Grant Stout Heward (Deseret News): https://www.deseret.com/1998/6/27/19388436/death-grant-stout-heward - Ensayo oficial de la Iglesia: Traducción e Historicidad del Libro de Abraham: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/translation-and-historicity-of-the-book-of-abraham?lang=spa  - Historia oficial de la Iglesia: Traducción del Libro de Abraham: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/book-of-abraham-translation?lang=spa  - El Mundo Cambiante del Mormonismo (Jerald y Sandra Tanner): https://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/pdf/spanish/elmundocambiantedelmormonismo.pdf  - La Búsqueda de la Verdad de Jerald Tanner: https://utlm.org/newsletters/pdfnewsletters/spanish/111messenger_spanish.pdf  - Respuesta apologética de FairMormon sobre el Libro de Abraham: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respuestas/La_crítica_del_mormonismo/Documentos_en_línea/Carta_a_un_Director_del_SEI/Inquietudes_y_Preguntas_del_Libro_de_Abraham  - Discusión en Reddit sobre el cambio de nombre del ensayo: https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/rtdkjr/book_of_abraham_essay_renamed_to_translation_and/  - La Iglesia publica un nuevo ensayo web sobre el Libro de Abraham (Faro a las Naciones): https://www.faroalasnaciones.com/la-iglesia-publica-un-nuevo-ensayo-web-sobre-el-libro-de-abraham/  - Artículo sobre el cambio de perspectiva de Brian Hauglid: https://www.facebook.com/bhauglid/  - Entrevista a Dan Vogel en Mormon Stories: https://www.mormonstories.org/dan-vogel/  - Video de Dan Vogel sobre la historia temprana de la Iglesia: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOCA8z8K5JApGD337hVaVmIs  - Canal de YouTube "The Backyard Professor": https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBackyardProfessor  - Entrevista a Kerry Shirts en Mormon Stories: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/kerry-shirts-the-backyard-professor/  - Análisis del Libro de Abraham en LDS Discussions: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com/abraham-translation  - Artículo sobre el Libro de Abraham en Discursos SUD: https://discursosud.com/2018/02/07/la-astronomia-y-los-egipcios-un-enfoque-a-abraham-3/  - Diario de Wright: http://mormon-alliance.org/casereports/volume3/part5/v3p5ch23.htm  - Post de Bill Reel en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bill.reel.7/posts/pfbid02GtwLPRuhyg42QRTY3aXE1h92QH2FLM6TdzgyA6cZKRFjJ3gw8asAoYiK8u6Ed3JZl  - El panel de Bill Reel editado en FairMormon: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/conference/august-2013/the-loss-and-rekindling-of-faith  - “Mormones y arqueología”, de Michael Coe: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N02_42.pdf  - Cómo un mormón transformó la arqueología en México, y terminó perdiendo su fe: https://www.science.org/content/article/how-mormon-lawyer-transformed-archaeology-mexico-and-ended-losing-his-faith  - Imagen de la Tierra Sagrada, de Ferguson, del tema de Chiapas: https://www.science.org/do/10.1126/science.aat0244/full/first-1675067454903.svg 

New research by PhD student Colby Townsend reveals striking connections between The Book of Mormon and Adam Clarke's Bible Commentary, a widely used biblical resource in Joseph Smith's time. In this episode, we explore how Smith engaged with Clarke's insights, made textual modifications, and reframed biblical passages to fit his theological vision. Was Smith restoring lost scripture, or was he influenced by contemporary scholarship?Show NotesYouTube00:11:35 Summary of Joseph Smith using the Adam Clarke Commentary00:17:06 During this time, this is NOT considered plagiarism00:19:55 The new article by Colby Townsend00:23:24 Clip of Hayley talking about Joseph Smith using the Bible Commentary00:29:45 What were we taught about how the Book of Mormon was produced?00:30:17 Quote from David Whitmer on the translation through the seer stone00:35:00 The Expansion Theory00:40:26 Quote from Emma on the Book of Mormon translation00:42:33 Quote from Martin Harris on it being a direct translation00:44:00 There is no account from Oliver Cowdery on the translation process; Oliver was also willing to lie00:44:51 Clip of Brad Wilcox on how the Book of Mormon was translation00:48:08 Background of Colby Townsend 00:50:08 Quotes from the article00:57:55 Joseph used other Bible Commentaries01:02:00 Conclusion from Colby Townsend's article01:07:40 Clip of the the Bible not having plain and precious things being removed01:09:25 Clip - The Book of Mormon is to bring back the things lost from the Bible01:11:20 2 Nephi 11:2 Nephi talks about the importance of Isaiah01:22:43 Quote from the Colby's article about how Joseph was well versed in the Bible01:24:55 Dan Vogel's theory about the presence of Isaiah in the Book of Mormon01:26:14 Colby Townsend discussing Joseph and Methodism01:29:25 Adam Clarke's Biblical Commentary01:33:35 Joseph's access to Clarke01:40:00 Comparing The Book of Mormon to the Adam Clarke Commentary01:49:35 Joseph copying both the KJV and then Adam Clarke's commentary01:58:38 Next example in Isaiah 50:2 “their fish is dried up”02:12:20 The example of Isaiah 2: 12-16 “cedars and oaks” and “high mountains and lofty hills”02:18:45 Isaiah 9:3 “thou hast increased their joy”02:24:20 Gerardo found his own examples02:32:24 Examples in Isaiah 14:3 “in that day”02:38:59 Isaiah 49:1 “O ye distant lands”02:48:10 Example Isaiah 29:11 “read it, for it is sealed up”02:56:50 If this is the most correct book why was so much of it changed?Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

On this episode of Mormonish Podcast, Rebecca and Landon sit down with returning guest Lars Nielsen to discuss the responses to his book, "How The Book of Mormon Came to Pass: The Second Greatest Show on Earth." Since its publication, Lars has interacted with and gotten feedback from a number of scholars and academics, as well as others who have read the book and want to weigh in. The most public back and forth has been occurring between Lars and scholar Dan Vogel, with each of them publishing video responses to address each other's points. Lars delves into these exchanges and also presents new information on what he believes could be the origin of the Book of Mormon in this really interesting episode of Mormonish.***How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here: Mormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast ****WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you'd like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast! Contact Mormonish Podcast: mormonishpodcast@gmail.com #mormonish #lds #mormon #exmormon #postmormon #religion #news, #ldschurch #comeuntochrist #churchofjesuschrist #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints #byu #byui #josephsmith #comefollowme #polygamy #bookofmormon #becauseofhim #hearhim #ldstempleFAIR USE DISCLAIMER All Media in this video (including the thumbnail) is used for the purpose of review and critique. The images in the thumbnail are used as the primary means of visually identifying the subject matter of the video.

In this episode, Sandra Tanner and Chris delve into key figures and moments in Mormon historical scholarship. They discuss individuals like Dee Jay Nelson, Mark Hoffman, and Wesley Walters, highlighting their contributions to uncovering evidence that challenges official LDS narratives, including the Palmyra revivals and the 1826 trial of Joseph Smith. The conversation touches on the work of scholars like Dan Vogel, Stan Larson, and D. Michael Quinn, as well as influential writers such as Fawn Brodie. Topics include changes in the Book of Mormon, early Mormon controversies, and the deeper complexities of Mormon history. This episode provides a compelling exploration of the intersection between faith, evidence, and critical analysis. Show Notes YouTube Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: YouTube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories TikTok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

Join us for a discussion with Sandra Tanner and Dan Vogel as we explore a remarkable video featuring BYU Professor and leading Mormon historian Steven C. Harper. In this video, Harper addresses key issues with the First Vision narrative and acknowledges several challenges raised by the CES Letter. Show Notes YouTube Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: YouTube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories TikTok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

Referencias: - Tesoros resbaladizos, Ask Gramps: https://askgramps.org/slippery-treasure-mean/ - "Tesoros deleznables" en Central de las Escrituras: https://centraldle.es/knowhy/por-que-samuel-dijo-que-las-riquezas-de-algunos-nefitas-se-volverian-deleznables - Jaime Lara, "Sacred Blood: The Lithurgy of Human Sacrifice": https://ism.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/Sacred%20Blood.pdf - Dan Vogel, "The Locations of Joseph Smith's Early Treasure Quests" - https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/the-locations-of-joseph-smiths-early-treasure-quests/

In this episode Hebrew Voices #194 - Pious Fraud, Nehemia and Dan Vogel discuss a shared concept in early Mormonism and rabbinical Judaism about lying for the Lord, what biblical studies can learn from Mormon history, and the dangers of … Continue reading → The post Hebrew Voices #194 – Pious Fraud appeared first on Nehemia's Wall.

In this episode of Hebrew Voices #192 - Early Mormonism on Trial, Nehemia welcomes back Dan Vogel to discuss the uncovering of Joseph Smith's court hearing documents, his background digging for treasure using seer stones, and the influence of folk … Continue reading → The post Hebrew Voices #192 – Early Mormonism on Trial appeared first on Nehemia's Wall.

Watch the Sneak Peek of this episode of Support Team Study, Mormon Chains of Authority: Part 2, Nehemia continues his discussion with Dan Vogel about an early conspiracy theory to explain how an uneducated farm boy wrote the Book of … Continue reading → The post Support Team Study SNEAK PEEK! Mormon Chains of Authority: Part 2 appeared first on Nehemia's Wall.

This is Part 2 of our dive into Episode 5 of A Marvelous Work, investigating the claims of “Book of Mormon Central” around the witnesses of the Book of Mormon. Told through the commentary of Radio Free Mormon, Bill Reel, and guest host Dan Vogel, we use our spiritual eyes to examine the facts of… Read More »Who Factually Saw the Gold Plates? Part Deux: A Marvelous Work And A Blunder [ML 186]

This is Part 2 of our dive into Episode 5 of A Marvelous Work, investigating the claims of “Book of Mormon Central” around the witnesses of the Book of Mormon. Told through the commentary of Radio Free Mormon, Bill Reel, and guest host Dan Vogel, we use our spiritual eyes to examine the facts of… Read More »Who Factually Saw the Gold Plates? Part Deux: A Marvelous Work And A Blunder [ML 186] The post Who Factually Saw the Gold Plates? Part Deux: A Marvelous Work And A Blunder [ML 186] appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

This is Part 2 of our dive into Episode 5 of A Marvelous Work, investigating the claims of “Book of Mormon Central” around the witnesses of the Book of Mormon. Told through the commentary of Radio Free Mormon, Bill Reel, and guest host Dan Vogel, we use our spiritual eyes to examine the facts of… Read More »Who Factually Saw the Gold Plates? Part Deux: A Marvelous Work And A Blunder [ML 186]

In this episode of Hebrew Voices #190, Mormon Chains of Authority: Part 1, Dr. Nehemia Gordon welcomes back Dan Vogel to discuss a modern-day American prophet's claim of divine authority, Mormon beliefs about Jesus' arrival to America, and the redefinition … Continue reading → The post Hebrew Voices #190 – Mormon Chains of Authority: Part 1 appeared first on Nehemia's Wall.

We dive into Episode 5 of A Marvelous Work, investigating the claims of “Book of Mormon Central” around the witnesses of the Book of Mormon. Told through the commentary of Radio Free Mormon, Bill Reel, and guest host Dan Vogel this one is bound to better than a vision performed via Second Sight. Book of… Read More »Who Factually Saw the Gold Plates? A Marvelous Work And A Blunder [ML 185]

We dive into Episode 5 of A Marvelous Work, investigating the claims of “Book of Mormon Central” around the witnesses of the Book of Mormon. Told through the commentary of Radio Free Mormon, Bill Reel, and guest host Dan Vogel this one is bound to better than a vision performed via Second Sight. Book of… Read More »Who Factually Saw the Gold Plates? A Marvelous Work And A Blunder [ML 185] The post Who Factually Saw the Gold Plates? A Marvelous Work And A Blunder [ML 185] appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

We dive into Episode 5 of A Marvelous Work, investigating the claims of “Book of Mormon Central” around the witnesses of the Book of Mormon. Told through the commentary of Radio Free Mormon, Bill Reel, and guest host Dan Vogel this one is bound to better than a vision performed via Second Sight. Book of… Read More »Who Factually Saw the Gold Plates? A Marvelous Work And A Blunder [ML 185]

In this episode of Hebrew Voices #183, Early Mormonism Revealed: Part 1, Nehemia continues his discussion with Dan Vogel exploring parallels between Mormonism and Islam, Joseph Smith's attempt to establish a theocratic empire on the American frontier, and the rapidly-shifting … Continue reading → The post Hebrew Voices #183 – Early Mormonism Revealed: Part 1 appeared first on Nehemia's Wall.

It's time for our next installment of Huge Niblet's Approaching Zion! He spends basically the entire section lamenting higher education and any information from sources other than the “p”rophet's counsel. Does he want us to be zealous, or learned? Nobody knows! But before that we have a quick debrief and error correction from the last episode of Mormonism Live with Dan Vogel and Bryce discussing the Spalding theory of Book of Mormon authorship. Don't miss the discussion linked below. Then we round out the episode with some happy news about Christians getting supermad about being held to the same legal standard as non-Christians.   Show Notes:   Mormonism Live Spalding discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwLZ68Z6LAI&t=6201s   ChurchisTrue authorship analysis: https://wheatandtares.org/2020/04/23/book-of-mormon-wordprint-studies-in-2020/?fbclid=IwAR2KodKO9RYp69XCm0rtDCHkzSyd2i6Knmbu-asaDyFFnyNZvMIPGtf3Zb8   Happy News:  https://www.christianpost.com/news/canadian-bill-would-remove-religious-exemption-from-hate-speech.html   Sword of Laman: https://archive.org/details/mindofman0000nige/mode/2up?view=theater   Go get your Glass Box Candle!  https://exmocandles.com/creator-candles/ Look for the Destroying Angel.    Other Appearances:    Come see us on Aron Ra's YouTube channel! He's doing a series titled Reading Joseph's Myth BoM. This link is for the playlist:   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXJ4dsU0oGMKfJKvEMeRn5ebpAggkoVHf  Check out his channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@AronRa   Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com  Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod  Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/glassboxpodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/GlassBoxPod  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/  Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop Or find the merch store by clicking on “Store” here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html One time Paypal donation: bryceblankenagel@gmail.com   

In the “Rigdon-Spalding Theory: Final Analysis,” Bill Reel and RFM delve into the conclusive examination of the theory, welcoming historians and experts Dan Vogel and Bryce Blankenagel. Together, they provide valuable insights, critique, and a comprehensive perspective on the historical aspects surrounding the Rigdon-Spalding theory. The episode serves as a culmination of their exploration, offering… Read More »Rigdon Spalding Theory: Final Analysis [Mormonism Live 170]

In the “Rigdon-Spalding Theory: Final Analysis,” Bill Reel and RFM delve into the conclusive examination of the theory, welcoming historians and experts Dan Vogel and Bryce Blankenagel. Together, they provide valuable insights, critique, and a comprehensive perspective on the historical aspects surrounding the Rigdon-Spalding theory. The episode serves as a culmination of their exploration, offering… Read More »Rigdon Spalding Theory: Final Analysis [Mormonism Live 170] The post Rigdon Spalding Theory: Final Analysis [Mormonism Live 170] appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

In the “Rigdon-Spalding Theory: Final Analysis,” Bill Reel and RFM delve into the conclusive examination of the theory, welcoming historians and experts Dan Vogel and Bryce Blankenagel. Together, they provide valuable insights, critique, and a comprehensive perspective on the historical aspects surrounding the Rigdon-Spalding theory. The episode serves as a culmination of their exploration, offering… Read More »Rigdon Spalding Theory: Final Analysis [Mormonism Live 170]

Josh Gehly gives a non-LDS Defense of the Book of Mormon. He is an Evangelist (what LDS would call a Seventy) of the Church of Jesus Christ based in Monongahela, PA, and shares his book, "Witnessing Miracles" which deals with a defense of the Book of Mormon. He even takes on Dan Vogel! We'll talk more about his church, and find out of this "non-Mormon" gets discriminated against just like Mormons. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/c2TefZ01AZE Don't miss our other conversations with Josh: https://gospeltangents.com/people/josh-gehly transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved

Movie Summary In 1881 David Whitmer seeks the signature of Gen. Alexander W. Doniphan on an affidavit attesting to his honesty and integrity, with plans to have it published in the local paper in Richmond Missouri with a statement refuting that he had denied his witness that an angel had shown him the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon was translated. Whitmer recalls the translation of the book in 1829 while Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery stayed at the Whitmer family home in Fayette, New York. After praying together, an angel shows them the plates. All three are later excommunicated from the church, but as Whitmer relates, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris testified to the end of their lives to the truthfulness of what they witnessed (dying in 1850 and 1875 respectively and after re-joining the church). Doniphan, a lawyer, signs the document and says that he would hate to argue in court against such strong evidence. Show Website Email: MormonMovieReviews@gmail.com MormonNewsRoundup MormonBookReviews EP 2 - Mormon Movie Reviews -The Three Witnesses (1963) • The Three Witnessess (1968) References Richard Lloyd Anderson's Investigating the Book of Mormon Witnesses Deseret Book 1989 https://www.amazon.com/Investigating-... Dan Vogel's Book of Mormon Witnesses YouTube series • Book of Mormon Witnesses - Pt 1 - The... New Witnesses Movie 2021, The interpreter Foundation Next MMR Film The Lost Manuscript (1974) Depicts the trials the Prophet Joseph Smith and his family endured during the translation of the Book of Mormon, and Martin Harris' role in the translation, and loss of the first 116 pages. Thanks so much for joining me to review this film, please like, subscribe, leave a comment, and join us next time for another episode of the MormonMovieReviews: Where LDS Movie Lovers Belong. So long. Support this channel! https://www.venmo.com/u/mormonmoviere... --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mormonnewsroundup/support

On a very special episode of Mormon Book Reviews, Evangelical Steven Pynakker interviews Jewish Scholar Dr. Nehemia Gordon. He hosts a YouTube channel Nehemia's Wall and he has a fascination with Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon, and the Restoration in general. Nehemia interviews people from different religions and perspectives and he recently started a series of conversations with Dan Vogel about Joseph Smith and Mormon history. This is an epic interview just in time for the beginning of the Feast of Tabernacles! I hope you enjoy it.Check out Nehemia's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Nehemiaswall... Link to Join the Utah Interfaith Forum Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/utah.... Links to support Mormon Book Reviews: Venmo Link: https://account.venmo.com/u/mbrven PayPal Link: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/mormo... Patreon Link: https://www.patreon.com/mormonbookrev... Channel Merch Store: https://www.mormonbookreviews.com

Here is one from the archives. We released this episode with Jonathan Neville back on April 8, 2022. Jonathan Neville is a big-tent proponent when it comes to Book of Mormon beliefs.  Part of that likely stems from Heartland being shut out of groups like Book of Mormon Central. But Jonathan is also wants to keep the tent open for people who believe in a non-historical Book of Mormon. https://youtu.be/yfbOflp3OD4 Non-Historical Book of Mormon? Jonathan: But it all comes back to this Mesoamerican thing, because I think once the scholars convince people that Oliver Cowdery and Joseph Smith were wrong about the Hill Cumorah, that was like a chink in the armor. They could be wrong about anything else. They said, "If they were wrong about something they said was a fact, then they could be wrong about anything else." So, they can be wrong about the translation. I don't know if you know, Skousen recently published a thing in The Interpreter about how now he's saying that Oliver Cowdery deliberately misled everybody about the translation. GT 2:56:48 Royal Skousen. Jonathan 2:56:48 Royal Skousen. And I couldn't disagree more, but I understand why he says that because the Mesoamerican thing opened the door to questioning everything Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery taught, and you end up with, what's left? Everybody just kind of says, "Well, as long as you believe in Christ, that's all the matters." But, come on. I mean, when it gets down to it, the only evidence that we have of the restoration of the priesthood is from Oliver Cowdery. Joseph Smith talked about it, but he didn't talk about the event. Yet, they're saying Oliver Cowdery was wrong about the Hill Cumorah? So, what I advocate is not anybody agree with anything that I say. I advocate, let's get all the facts out, and then let's look at the different interpretations of the facts. You go all the way from Dan Vogel and Tom Murphy, through Jack Welch, John Sorenson and Dan Peterson. Then, over here we have Rod Meldrum, and Wayne May on the geography issue, or me on the translation or whatever. Let's just put all of them out and let's get rid of this citation cartel that censors things they don't like. The Interpreter, to me, is an appalling journal. It shouldn't even be considered an academic journal. GT 2:57:20 Yet, you read it. Jonathan 2:58:06 Well, I have a blog called The Interpreter Peer Reviewed, where once in a while someone will send me an article, "You've got to deal with this." I read it, okay. Then, what I would do is a peer review. I understand it's more of a peer approval process that it goes through with those guys, because everybody on their peer review process already drinks the Kool Aid. I mean, they don't consider an outside perspective, and I know, because I've talked with them. I know how they are, and you can read it in their journals. They get upset that I even talk about it. Dan Peterson freaks out. In Dan Peterson's own blog that he does on his Patheos, whatever, he's referred to me several times and wants everybody read this critical web page. There's a page that's critical of me all the time. At first, I thought, "Well, I should respond to that." But then I read it. It's so ludicrous. I feel like if people can't discern fact from sophistry, then that's on them. I'm not going to spend all my time tamping down all the sophistry going around. Jonathan 2:59:12 I just feel like people need to present the facts. If The Interpreter--the name Interpreter kind of tells it all, because they feel like they are the credentialed class. They are the ones that have been hired by the prophets to guide the rest of us, that kind of stuff which they've said. And the name Interpreter, alone, is a non-starter, because they're trying to interpret the scriptures for us. I think the scriptures are given to ordinary people that we can understand and interpret for ourselves. We don't need some scholars interpreting it for us.

In this episode of Hebrew Voices #164 – A Karaite Jew on Mormonism: Part 1, Nehemia brings on the foremost historian of early Mormonism, Dan Vogel. They discuss what Bible scholars can learn from Joseph Smith's cultural background of treasure … Continue reading → The post Hebrew Voices #164 – A Karaite Jew on Mormonism: Part 1 appeared first on Nehemia's Wall.

Dismantling Brian Hales’ Book of Mormon Defense: ML: 141 In this episode, hosts RFM and Bill Reel team up with LDS scholar Dan Vogel to critically examine the arguments put forth by LDS apologist Brian Hales in defense of the Book of Mormon’s authenticity. They discuss Hales’ reasons and defenses of why the BOM can’t… Read More »Dismantling Brian Hales’ Book of Mormon Defense: Mormonism LIVE: 141

Dismantling Brian Hales' Book of Mormon Defense: ML: 141 In this episode, hosts RFM and Bill Reel team up with LDS scholar Dan Vogel to critically examine the arguments put forth by LDS apologist Brian Hales in defense of the Book of Mormon's authenticity. They discuss Hales' reasons and defenses of why the BOM can't… Read More »Dismantling Brian Hales' Book of Mormon Defense: Mormonism LIVE: 141

Dismantling Brian Hales’ Book of Mormon Defense: ML: 141 In this episode, hosts RFM and Bill Reel team up with LDS scholar Dan Vogel to critically examine the arguments put forth by LDS apologist Brian Hales in defense of the Book of Mormon’s authenticity. They discuss Hales’ reasons and defenses of why the BOM can’t… Read More »Dismantling Brian Hales’ Book of Mormon Defense: Mormonism LIVE: 141 The post Dismantling Brian Hales’ Book of Mormon Defense: Mormonism LIVE: 141 appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

In this episode, Lindsay and Bryan discuss the history of the only United States military regiment ever mustered specifically from a religious group: The Mormon Battalion. Shownotes: Donate to Sunstone and the History Podcast (leave us a note in the comment section to say hi!) Register for the Sunstone Summer Symposium Charisma Under Pressure: Joseph Smith, American Prophet, 1831–1839 (Dan Vogel).  From Iowa to Immortality: A Tribute to the Mormon Battalion by Elder Lance B. Wickman The Mormon Battalion's Manifest Destiny: Expansion and Identity during the Mexican-American War by Natalie Brooke Coffman of University of Vermont The Mormon Battalion by Sherman L. Fleek Reddick Allred's journal

Dan Vogel sits down with RFM & Bill not only to talk about his new book “Charisma under Pressure: Joseph Smith, American Prophet, 1831–1839” but to also flesh out some of the incredible ideas in his recent YouTube video “Joseph Smith, the Necromancer”. RESOURCES: Twilit Grotto — Esoteric Archives – esotericarchives.com/ Old Bountiful Museum –… Read More »Mormon Magic Parchments: Mormonism LIVE: 132

Dan Vogel sits down with RFM & Bill not only to talk about his new book “Charisma under Pressure: Joseph Smith, American Prophet, 1831–1839” but to also flesh out some of the incredible ideas in his recent YouTube video “Joseph Smith, the Necromancer”. RESOURCES: Twilit Grotto — Esoteric Archives – esotericarchives.com/ Old Bountiful Museum –… Read More »Mormon Magic Parchments: Mormonism LIVE: 132

Dan Vogel sits down with RFM & Bill not only to talk about his new book “Charisma under Pressure: Joseph Smith, American Prophet, 1831–1839” but to also flesh out some of the incredible ideas in his recent YouTube video “Joseph Smith, the Necromancer”.RESOURCES:Twilit Grotto — Esoteric Archives – esotericarchives.com/Old Bountiful Museum – World of Urban… Read More »Mormon Magic Parchments: Mormonism LIVE: 132 The post Mormon Magic Parchments: Mormonism LIVE: 132 appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

The third in a three-part miniseries where Bryan and Lindsay discuss the development of race in Mormon theology through a historical lens. Shownotes: Donate to Sunstone and the History Podcast (leave us a note in the comment section to say hi!) Register for the Sunstone Summer Symposium Charisma Under Pressure: Joseph Smith, American Prophet, 1831–1839 (Dan Vogel).  "The Chosen Seed: Reexamining Mormon Conceptions of Race and Lineage Forty Years after Official Declaration 2”—Sunstone presentation (Stirling Adams, Matt Harris and Newell Bringhurst). “Mormonism's Negro Doctrine: An Historical Overview”—Dialogue (Lester Bush). Mormonism and White Supremacy: American Religion and the Problem of Racial Innocence (Joanna Brooks).  Nobody Knows: The Untold Story of Black Mormons—DVD (Margaret Young and Darius Gray) 

Brandon and Cody continue talking to Bryce Blankenagel, creator of the podcast "Naked Mormonism" and "The Glass Box" and Cody's co-author in their published paper "The Entheogenic Origins of Mormonism." Bryce goes in depth about how to sift through historical documents and research in attempt to communicate a compelling and reliable story. Brandon and Cody are tentatively holding a symposium on the subject of Mormonism's psychedelic and ceremonial magic history. Let them know if you're interested in attending or want more info by emailing RoughlyStoned@gmail.com.Show notes: - Bryce Blankenagel "Naked Mormonism Podcast" and "The Glass Box Podcast"- Cody Noconi "The Psychedelic History of Mormonism, Magic and Drugs"- Cody Noconi, Bryce Blankenagel, Dr. Robert Beckstead, Michael Winkelman "The Entheogenic Origins of Mormonism"- Robert Beckstead "Restoration and the Sacred Mushroom - Did Joseph Smith Use Psychedelic Substances to Facilitate Visionary Experiences"- Laurel Ulrich "A House Full of Females"- Cheryl Bruno "Method Infinite"- Dan Vogel "Early Mormon Documents" (this link is to just the first volume in the multi-volume series)- LaMar Peterson "Hearts Made Glad"- Increase McGee Van Dusen "1847 Endowment Account"Mormons on Mushrooms – Ways to ContributeOur podcast is supported by our amazing listeners and magical community. If you'd like to energetically contribute to what we're creating, there are several ways to do so:Become a PatreonSend a Contribution (buy us a booch)!Purchase Mormons on Mushrooms Merchandise

Brandon and Cody welcome Bryce Blankenagel, creator of the podcast "Naked Mormonism" and "The Glass Box" and Cody's co-author in their published paper "The Entheogenic Origins of Mormonism." Bryce talks in depth about Mormon psychedelic history and the fascinating story of the development of their research paper. Brandon and Cody are tentatively holding a symposium on the subject of Mormonism's psychedelic and ceremonial magic history. Let them know if you're interested in attending or want more info by emailing RoughlyStoned@gmail.com.Links:- Bryce Blankenagel "Naked Mormonism Podcast" and "The Glass Box Podcast"- Cody Noconi "The Psychedelic History of Mormonism, Magic and Drugs"- Cody Noconi, Bryce Blankenagel, Dr. Robert Beckstead, Michael Winkelman "The Entheogenic Origins of Mormonism"- Robert Beckstead "Restoration and the Sacred Mushroom - Did Joseph Smith Use Psychedelic Substances to Facilitate Visionary Experiences"- Laurel Ulrich "A House Full of Females"- Cheryl Bruno "Method Infinite"- Dan Vogel "Early Mormon Documents" (this link is to just the first volume in the multi-volume series)- LaMar Peterson "Hearts Made Glad"- Increase McGee Van Dusen "1847 Endowment Account"Mormons on Mushrooms – Ways to ContributeOur podcast is supported by our amazing listeners and magical community. If you'd like to energetically contribute to what we're creating, there are several ways to do so:Become a PatreonSend a Contribution (buy us a booch)!Purchase Mormons on Mushrooms Merchandise

Dan Vogel joins RFM to discuss the Occult in the Life of Joseph Smith and his family.

Dan Vogel joins RFM to discuss the Occult in the Life of Joseph Smith and his family.

Dan Vogel joins RFM to discuss the Occult in the Life of Joseph Smith and his family. The post Mormonism LIVE: 094: Joseph Smith & The Occult appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

RFM and Bill sit down once again with Dan Vogel and Brent Metcalfe to examine the problems with the Book of Abraham as a translation of an ancient document in a sacred text for Mormonism generally and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints specifically. Dan and Brent share their scholarship and help us […]