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Welcome back to Part 34 of our series with Dr. John G. Turner! Today we are covering most of Chapter 27 in John Turner's new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet. The chapter is called “Deep Water” and covers the year 1843.The main topic for today is polygamy.Join us as we discuss several of Joseph Smith's wives such as Flora Woodworth, Eliza R. Snow, Sarah Ann Whitney, Lucy Walker, etc. John Dehlin challenges Dr. John Turner on specific aspects such as whether Emma Smith really did push Eliza R. Snow down the stairs and whether or not Porter Rockwell did actually attempt to assassinate Lilburn Boggs. We also discuss the validity of the William Clayton journals and postulate on why the church has yet to publish them.Throughout 1843, Joseph Smith promised men and women salvation based on their willingness to enter into polygamy. He spent church funds on gifts for his wives, as well as buying some of them plots of land, and even travel expenses for some of the women (from England to Nauvoo). Joseph Smith used language that could be seen as coercive, for example, telling Lucy Walker that polygamy was a command of God and that he would give her “until tomorrow to decide this matter [of polygamy] and that “If you reject this message the gate will be closed forever against you.”In this episode we tackle hard questions such as: Can people who do bad things also be good? Does good behavior negate seemingly abusive actions? Are people all bad and all good? Can Joseph Smith's actions be seen as human trafficking?This chapter in Mormonism is deeply problematic and disturbing, but Dr. John Turner handles it amazingly.Let us know your thoughts on a Brigham Young series (comprising ten episodes) covering John Turner's book Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet.If you'd like to help keep this project going, please consider donating to support this series here. Your support makes long-form, in-depth historical discussion like this possible!Purchase John Turner's book here.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
In his official 1838 history, Joseph Smith described discovering the golden plates inside a carefully constructed stone box in the Hill Cumorah. According to his account, the box contained the plates, the Urim and Thummim, and a breastplate.But what happened to that stone box?In this episode of LDS Discussions, we take a deep dive into the historical record surrounding the stone box narrative. We compare Joseph Smith's 1838 history with earlier and later accounts, statements from witnesses like David Whitmer, Martin Harris, and Oliver Cowdery, and later retellings from leaders such as Brigham Young.We explore:-What Joseph Smith said was inside the box-Whether early Saints believed there was MORE than one box-Claims about swords, the Liahona, and other Nephite artifacts-The evolution of the story over time-Whether codex-style plates create anachronistic problems-The “magic worldview” shared by early Mormon leaders-Comparisons to treasure-digging culture-Why there is no physical evidence of the stone box todayWe also examine 19th century newspaper references discussing the stone box, Whitmer's later (contradictory) interviews, and the strange disappearance of a stone structure that supposedly survived for over a thousand years.If the box was real and physically constructed with stone slabs and pillars –as described –why did it leave no trace? Why didn't believers preserve fragments the way people took pieces of the Berlin Wall? And why does the Hill Cumorah today appear completely undisturbed?This episode wrestles with a central question: Does the detail of a stone box strengthen Joseph Smith's credibility –or create new historical and epistemological problems?This is Episode 71 in our LDS Discussions series!___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Please join us as we interview Chase McWhorter from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives about his Mormon Story.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Join Michelle Stone and Cheryl Bruno as they discuss the history of the Mormon polygamy wars that erupted in the U.S. AFTER the death of Joseph Smith.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
The LDS Church has announced that it spent $1.58 billion in humanitarian and welfare assistance in 2025, a number the Church says represents record-level giving around the world. But what exactly is included in that number, and how much of it represents money the Church itself donated versus funds that passed through programs like fast… Read More »Did the LDS Church Really Give $1.58 Billion to Charity in 2025? The post Did the LDS Church Really Give $1.58 Billion to Charity in 2025? appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Straight Talk on Patriarchy and Harm [Part I of II] In this episode I read to you a shocking and brilliant article that I wish every Latter-day Saint can hear. This is a tough topic but one where reform will not touch until we start looking it in the eye. Please listen and share this article. Thank you to the Dialogue Foundation and to the author Suzanne E. Greco, whose trailblazing work may eventually be instrumental in preventing countless LDS women and girls from future harm. She wrote the article. I read the article. Please do your part and share the article (via the podcast or linked HERE!)Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Context00:26 Upcoming Episode Preview 03:31 Reading the Article: Confronting Men's Violence 05:26 Author's Background and Article Introduction 06:26 Article Reading: Violence Against Women in LDS Church 11:11 Personal Story of Abuse 14:56 Credibility Issues and External Validation 19:59 Global Perspective on Violence Against Women 25:38 Utah Statistics and Under-Reporting 28:38 Male Ecclesiastical Leaders as First Responders 32:38 Challenges and Solutions 33:18 Solution One: Legal Changes and Clergy-Penitent Laws 38:31 High-Profile Cases and Institutional Betrayal 42:58 Solution Two: Women's Ministry and Male Protection Racket 46:23 Solution Three: Training and Education 48:23 DARVO Tactics and Victim-Perpetrator Dynamics 52:52 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSupport the showSupport the show Listen, Share, Rate & Review EPISODES Friday Episodes Annual Access $89 Friday Episodes Monthly Access $10 Valerie's Support & Processing Groups Gift a Scholarship Download Free Resources Visit our Website
Janice Allred was excommunicated just over 30 years ago, but still attends the LDS Church!!! Why? She will talk about why she stays, and offer advice to others on how to stay if they want to. We’ll discuss how it affects her family, her testimony, and we’ll even dive into why current polygamy revisionists are getting into trouble with LDS Church leaders. Check out our conversation! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O8H-QXlDPw Why I Stay: Three Decades in the Pews as an Excommunicated Member What does it look like to remain dedicated to a faith community that has formally cast you out? For Janice Allred, a “philosophical theologian” who was excommunicated in 1995, the answer is found in showing up every Sunday for over thirty years. Allred, the sister of fellow scholar Margaret Toscano, was disciplined primarily for her writings on “God the Mother“ and her critiques of church authority, yet she remains a fixture in her local ward. Why Stay? When asked the “Sunstone question” of why she stays, Allred's first response is simple: “Because I want to”. Her deeper motivations are rooted in her identity as a follower of Jesus Christ, noting that He encouraged His followers to meet together often to strengthen one another. Furthermore, she feels a profound connection to the revelations of Joseph Smith, including the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, and wants to worship where those texts are accepted as scripture. From Pariah to Participant The road has not been easy. For the first five to ten years after her excommunication, Allred describes being treated like a “pariah” and was largely ignored by her ward members. She recalls a poignant moment five years in when a fellow ward member simply said “Hello,” and she nearly broke into tears because so few had spoken to her during that time. The turning point was a house fire. While the community struggled to know how to respond to her theological dissent, they knew exactly how to help a family in a physical crisis. Today, she is a regular participant in Sunday school and Relief Society, though she is denied the sacrament, which she describes as the hardest part of her experience. The “Observer” Strategy Allred offers a unique perspective for those struggling with their faith: be an observer. She navigates the tension of hearing things she disagrees with—such as the “adulation” of church leadership or the Proclamation on the Family—by taking a step back and viewing the meetings through a sociological or theological lens. She does not feel the need to agree with everything said from the pulpit to feel that she belongs to the “invisible church” of true followers of Christ. A Different Kind of Fundamentalism Perhaps most surprising is Allred's stance as a “polygamy revisionist.” Through her theological studies, she became convinced that Joseph Smith neither taught nor practiced polygamy, and she views Section 132 as a later forgery or a text contrary to the gospel. While this view challenges the lineage of authority from Brigham Young, she maintains that her primary goal is seeking what is true according to her own conscience and inspiration. Janice Allred's journey is a testament to self-authorship in faith. She remains a “member of the ward” in spirit, even if not on the records, proving that for some, the community of Christ is worth the discomfort of dissent. What do you think of Janice's persistence for 30+ years?
Join us as we conclude Carol Lynn Pearson week on Mormon Stories Podcast!Today we have planned a celebration & Q&A with beloved author, poet, feminist, and activist Carol Lynn Pearson. We will have several guests on to share their dedications to Carol Lynn. And Barbara Brown from Signature Books will join us as we also discuss the new release of: The Diaries of Carol Lynn Pearson--Mormon Author, Feminist, and Activist: Volume 1 (1956-1990).Please help us support Carol Lynn Pearson and purchase her new memoir, here.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Why Do People Leave the LDS Church? In this episode of Mormonism Live, Bill Reel and Radio Free Mormon examine a topic that has been discussed inside Mormonism for nearly two centuries: why do people leave the Church? From early sermons by Brigham Young to modern General Conference addresses, Latter-day Saint leaders have offered explanations… Read More »The LDS Label Machine
Tonight on The Mormon Newscast, we begin with a development in the Wade Christofferson Abuse Allegations, specifically the Church's official response regarding the brother of apostle D. Todd Christofferson. We'll walk through what the Church said, what it didn't say, and why the situation is drawing attention both inside and outside Mormon circles. We'll also… Read More »LDS Church Statement on Wade Christofferson The post LDS Church Statement on Wade Christofferson appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
Why Do People Leave the LDS Church? In this episode of Mormonism Live, Bill Reel and Radio Free Mormon examine a topic that has been discussed inside Mormonism for nearly two centuries: why do people leave the Church? From early sermons by Brigham Young to modern General Conference addresses, Latter-day Saint leaders have offered explanations… Read More »The LDS Label Machine The post The LDS Label Machine appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
Why Do People Leave the LDS Church? In this episode of Mormonism Live, Bill Reel and Radio Free Mormon examine a topic that has been discussed inside Mormonism for nearly two centuries: why do people leave the Church? From early sermons by Brigham Young to modern General Conference addresses, Latter-day Saint leaders have offered explanations for why members lose their faith. These explanations often frame departure as the result of deception, pride, sin, offense, or the influence of Satan. Tonight we take a careful look at those teachings. We explore what Church leaders have said historically, how those ideas continue to appear in modern instruction, and how these narratives shape the way believers understand those who leave. We'll also look at the human side of the conversation: how these labels affect real people, real families, and the possibility of honest dialogue between those who stay and those who step away. This episode is not about attacking belief. It's about understanding the stories we tell about each other — and asking whether those stories leave room for compassion, curiosity, and honest conversation. RESOURCES:https://faenrandir.github.io/a_careful_examination/how-those-who-leave-are-viewed/Glen Pace memo – https://www.scribd.com/document/105967728/Memo-Bishop-Glenn-L-Pace-to-LDS-Church-Members-Committee-Ritualistic-Child-Abuse-7-19-90 If you enjoy Mormonism Live and want to support the show, please consider donating: https://donorbox.org/mormonism-live If anyone needs support dealing with spiritual trauma, 1-on-1 coaching and support groups are available at: https://awakenandthrive.org/
Welcome back to Carol Lynn Pearson week on Mormon Stories podcast, as we re-visit two very important interviews with a one-of-a-kind Mormon woman.Today's episode was originally recorded in 2018, when we teamed up with Sunstone to do a live recording where we discussed Pearson's book, The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy. Special thanks to the Salt Lake City Community of Christ for hosting such a wonderful evening and for the many listeners who came to enjoy the experience.In our next episode, we will close out the week by welcoming Carol Lynn Pearson back on the podcast to celebrate the release of her new book, The Diaries of Carol Lynn Pearson. We will also be joined on that interview by the director of Signature Books, Barbara Jones Brown.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Today, we are thrilled to kick off Carol Lynn Pearson week on Mormon Stories Podcast! Join us for the re-broadcast of two very important interviews with a one-of-a-kind Mormon woman. Then, we will close out the week by welcoming Carol Lynn Pearson back on the podcast to celebrate the release of her new book, The Diaries of Carol Lynn Pearson, where we will also be joined by the director of Signature Books, Barbara Jones Brown.Carol Lynn Pearson is the author of a 1986 memoir, Goodbye, I Love You, about the death of her gay husband from AIDS.Her musical, My Turn on Earth, is among the most successful Mormon musicals of all time.Carol Lynn is an advocate for women and LGBTQ+ Mormons. Her 2007 book, “No More Goodbyes,” tells the stories of gay Mormons (and those of other faiths), coping with family, religion, and, occasionally, suicide.Today's interview was filmed in 2010, and was originally broken into four parts and released as episodes 173-177. We have compiled them into a singular episode in order to re-introduce it to our listeners.CONTENT WARNING: This series contains discussion of suicide and suicidal ideation. Please listen responsibly.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Here are the top four vote-getters of notable Latter-day Saints — from outside the ranks of the church's general authorities and officers — whom you would like to have speak at next month's General Conference? https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/02/26/hows-this-lds-conference-speakers/ New “Greater Love” Easter video celebrates Jesus Christ's love for “you”? https://www.deseret.com/faith/2026/03/01/new-greater-love-easter-video-celebrates-jesus-christ-love-for-you/ Watch Elder Caussé play, speak of this newly added Easter hymn? https://www.deseret.com/faith/2026/02/27/watch-elder-causse-play-piano-speak-of-new-hymn/ Watch: Free Easter lesson for families to learn about Christ (title inferred from page references)? https://www.ldsliving.com/watch-free-easter-lesson-for-families-to-learn-about-christ/s/13168 Find long-lost family at LDS Church–sponsored event (RootsTech 2026 coverage)? https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/find-long-lost-family-at-lds-church-sponsored-event/ Iconic LDS Church temple in San Diego offering once-in-a-generation public access? https://fox5sandiego.com/san-diego-guide/san-diego-lds-church-temple-open-house-2026/ Joyful photos from Zimbabwe's first temple dedication? https://www.ldsliving.com/joyful-photos-from-zimbabwes-first-temple-dedication/s/13166 Harare Zimbabwe Temple (almanac entry; title on Church News almanac page)? https://www.thechurchnews.com/almanac/temples/harare-zimbabwe/ Utah wife allegedly killed rich Mormon husband in their mansion so she could be with new lover... now HIS marriage secrets are aired in court? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/crime-desk/article-15608361/kouri-richins-utah-trial-affair-husband.html LIVE UPDATES | Day 9 of Kouri Richins murder trial ? https://www.eastidahonews.com/2026/03/live-updates-day-9-of-kouri-richins-murder-trial/ ‘Word of Wisdom Amendments' introduced as alternative in Utah kratom ban debate (exact headline styling may vary)? https://www.fox13now.com/news/politics/mormon-word-of-wisdom-introduced-in-bill-debate-over-utahs-kratom-ban ‘Rise Up and Speak' showcases Eliza R. Snow's timeless discourses in early days of LDS Church (ABC4 religion feature)? https://www.abc4.com/news/religion/rise-up-and-speak-book-eliza-r-snows-discourses/ New LDS book highlights words of Eliza R. Snow? https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/03/04/new-lds-book-highlights-words/ No forgiveness: ‘Murder in the Mormon Frontier' with journalist, author Dan Neal? https://buckrail.com/no-forgiveness-murder-in-the-mormon-frontier-with-journalist-author-dan-neal/ ‘Let scripture surprise you' — LDS authors on how to teach the Old Testament to children? https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/03/01/lds-authors-teaching-old-testament/ Quentin L. Cook on AI's ‘unique spiritual challenges' (guidance facing the AI age)? https://www.deseret.com/faith/2026/03/03/elder-cook-guidance-facing-ai-age-unique-spiritual-challenges/ LDS Church–backed A.I. bill would make it easier to sue over damaging ‘deepfakes'? https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2026/03/03/deep-fakes-lds-church-backs-bill/ The truth behind Utah's latest plastic surgery phenomenon: the ‘Mormon makeover'? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/lifestyle/beauty/article-15547481/mormon-face-truth-utah-plastic-surgery-trend-craze-cosmetic.html Church of Jesus Christ releases statement on Iran strikes? https://www.deseret.com/faith/2026/02/28/church-of-jesus-christ-releases-statement-on-iran-strikes/ Following cartel-related violence, Mexico Area Presidency invites members to pray for peace in the country? https://www.deseret.com/faith/2026/02/27/following-cartel-related-violence-mexico-area-presidency-invites-members-to-pray-for-peace-in-the-country/ An LDS pioneer-era extermination order still weighs on the Timpanogos Nation? https://www.kuer.org/race-religion-social-justice/2026-03-02/an-lds-pioneer-era-extermination-order-still-weighs-on-the-timpanogos-nation 60 years ago today (Mar 6, 1966) – Today in Mormon History? http://www.todayinmormonhistory.com/2026/03/60-years-ago-today-mar-6-1966.html 105 years ago today (Mar 5, 1921) – Today in Mormon History? http://www.todayinmormonhistory.com/2026/03/105-years-ago-today-mar-5-1921.html 175 years ago today (Mar 4, 1851) – Today in Mormon History? http://www.todayinmormonhistory.com/2026/03/175-years-ago-today-mar-4-1851-tuesday.html
THE TOPIC OF ABUSE COMES UP IN THIS EPISODE & MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN.I am really excited to drop this week's episode for you as I have two people on that have never been on the podcast before. Zack & Mckayla. Zack comes from a fundamentalist background and Mckayla from an LDS background. We start off our conversation by talking about each of their back stories. As they each talk about their respective hardships and trials we find some remarkable determination in them both to hold fast to the Restored Gospel in spite of their challenges. From there we move into the time they met each other and how they navigated their faith differences as they first started talking. The conversation then turns to McKayla's conversion to the Fulness of the Restored Gospel and how she and Zack had to navigate the challenges that accompany making a move from the LDS Church to Mormon Fundamentalism. All along the way during this conversation we explore different principles from the Restored Gospel as those principles applied to Zack & McKayla's story and end the conversation with some powerful testimony from each of them. Mormon Legacy Ministries:mormonlegacy.org5000 Year Leap Class:mormonlegacy.org/5000
You may think you know Lala Kent from watching her on Vanderpump Rules or The Valley, but Danielle is going way back in time to learn about “Lauren from Utah.” Lala shares what it was growing up outside the LDS Church and we hear her thoughts on the rise of Mormons on reality TV. And nothing is off limits, including a casual chat about boob jobs and her unlikely friendship with Ambyr Childers, which started from their scandal filled history with an ex. You’ll be shocked to find out how much Lala and Danielle have in common, from experimental beauty treatments to a passion for Air Jordans, all on this week’s new Teen Beat!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today, we are very excited to have back on the podcast Bible scholar and best selling author, Bart Ehrman! Bart has very recently retired as a professor from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and he is here with us today to “meet the Mormons” and answer questions on the Old Testament, New Testament, and even offers his professional opinions on Book of Mormon History. Bart and the panel will also discuss his brand new book, Love Thy Stranger, and some of his other works that we believe our audience would love.We are truly privileged to have Bart with us today to share his thoughts on the history of Jesus and the Bible, and hope you find this conversation as engaging as we did. You can pre-order Love They Stranger here.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
When Latter-day Saints hear the phrase "Purity Culture," they may associate it more with evangelical churches than with our own. LDS talks and lessons focus on words like virtue, modesty, morality, and chastity to describe our ideals. But regardless of the specific words used, the messages are the same. Therapist C.A. Larson points out, "Purity culture is a moral control system that ties worth to sexual behavior, especially for women. [...] Purity culture in the LDS Church is institutional, enforced through interviews, modesty rules, and silence around consent." In Episode 253, Cynthia and Susan welcome C.A. back to ALSSI for a discussion about Purity Culture: what it is, its psychological and emotional impacts, and its systemic connection to sexual abuse. It's a conversation that makes space for grief and anger, and identifies healing paths. C.A. explains, "Healing is not about becoming more sexual or less sexual. It is about embracing our agency...relearning consent, trusting bodily signals, separating worth from obedience, reclaiming choice, going slowly and allowing ambivalence. You don't owe your body to doctrine, and you don't owe your healing to anyone else's timeline."CW: sexual abuse
In this first of a two part conversation on Sunday School Dropouts, Andrew Kerbs and Laura Anderson sit down with Ashley Buckner, LMFT, to explore her journey growing up in an unorthodox Mormon home in Cedar City, Utah, and the lasting impact of purity culture and childhood sexual abuse. Ashley shares what it was like to grow up in a “less than” Mormon family with a Catholic father prior to his baptism, the pressure to perform worthiness, and the shame of being born to parents who were pregnant before marriage. She reflects on how purity culture shaped her understanding of her body, sexuality, and value, and how secrecy and silence created the conditions for abuse to remain hidden for years.Ashley bravely recounts being sexually abused at age four by an older family member and the way cultural messaging around sex and worthiness reinforced silence and self blame. She opens up about not disclosing the abuse until age twenty, leaving the LDS church after moving to Los Angeles, and how experiences of unconditional love outside Mormonism shifted her perspective. The conversation also explores why talk therapy alone was not enough for trauma recovery and how brainspotting and other nervous system based approaches helped her access healing stored in the body. Together, they unpack how trauma and shame live in the hips and stomach, why embodiment and safe relationships are essential for recovery, and how sharing shame in safe spaces begins to loosen its grip.Share your purity culture stories with us by leaving a voicemail or sending your story to us!Guest Info: Social Media: @ashleyb_therapyResources discussed in this episode: Melissa Urban - The Book of BoundariesNon Violent Communication bookNon Violent Communication graphicThis podcast is brought to you by the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery: an online trauma coaching company whose practitioners are trauma informed and trauma trained to work with individuals, couples and families who have experienced high control religion, cults, and religious trauma. For more information on the support that CTRR provides, for resources–including courses, workshops, and more–head to traumaresolutionandrecovery.com or follow us on Instagram: @traumaresolutionandrecovery The views and opinions expressed by Sunday School Dropouts are those of the hosts and not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery. Any of the content provided by our guests, sponsors, authors, or bloggers are their own ideas and opinions.The Sunday School Dropouts podcast is not anti-religion but it is anti -harm, -power and control, -oppression and, -abuse and will speak to the harmful practices and messaging of fundamentalist groups. Follow Andrew on Instagram @andrew_kerbsFollow Andrew's post-SDA account @lifeafteradventismFollow Andrew's account on neurodivergence and high control religion @divergent.faith Join Andrew's Substack (Kerb Your Enthusiasm) www.andrewkerbs.substack.com To begin working with Andrew as a coach, schedule your FREE inquiry call hereFollow Laura on Instagram and TikTok @drlauraeanderson
In this episode of Mormon Stories Podcast, we speak with Christopher Jenkins, a former LDS bishop, about his personal experience with the Church's abuse hotline. While serving as bishop in Washington, a ward member confessed abuse to him. When Christopher called the Church's hotline for guidance, he says he was told he was not a mandatory reporter and felt pressured not to report the abuse to authorities.Christopher walks us through both calls he made to the hotline, the legal framing of the guidance he received, and the lack of follow-up afterward. He also discusses broader issues surrounding clergy confidentiality, how reporting requirements vary by jurisdiction, and what he perceived as the Church's focus on institutional liability rather than victim care.We also explore how he now views mandatory reporting laws, the Church's opposition to certain reporting requirements in Washington, and larger questions about abuse prevention, bishop training, and accountability. Christopher shares how this experience, along with navigating life as the father of LGBTQ+ children, contributed to significant shifts in his faith.This conversation centers on leadership responsibility, ethical decision-making, and what happens when institutional guidance conflicts with personal conscience.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Inclusive Mormonism: Inside Mormon Legacy Ministries Justin Francom thinks every Mormon Church is the true church. He shares a vision of surprisingly inclusive Mormonism, challenging the rigid boundaries and schisms that usually divide the various Latter-day Saint factions. https://youtu.be/Px-PJVAdOHs Don't miss our other conversations on Mormon fundamentalism: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/fundamentalim/ Copyright © 2026 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Award-winning authors Universalist View of True Church Francom holds a radically universalist view of the priesthood, believing that the mainstream LDS Church, the AUB, the FLDS, Centennial Park, and the Peterson Group all possess valid priesthood authority. When asked if these groups are apostate, he frankly notes that “we’re all apostate to a certain degree.” He asserts that no single church is perfectly true or completely false; rather, God respects human agency and expects mortals to make mistakes as they figure things out. Drawing on his deep love for both American and South Korean cultures, Francom argues that God loves diversity and that heaven itself will feature a rich diversity of cultures. Therefore, different worship styles and branches of Mormonism should be able to coexist as long as they are coming unto Christ. Missouri Temple Community Francom also elaborates on the independent fundamentalist community out in Missouri. They hold regular Sunday meetings, separating for Priesthood instruction and coming together for a unified Sacrament meeting. In a beautiful display of peace, they even hold shared meetings on fifth Sundays with the local mainstream LDS congregation and other fundamentalist factions. To avoid theological conflict, they simply omit the physical sacrament ordinance during these shared gatherings. The community operates strictly on a voluntary basis, with no mandated tithing, even when it comes to funding and maintaining their newly built temple. To prevent the rise of authoritarian “kings” or a “one man” leader, the temple council is a rotating body where members serve two-year terms before being replaced by a priesthood vote. Remarkably, the temple is open to individuals from other Mormon branches—including mainstream LDS members—who wish to experience the original 1840s endowment, provided they are there for sincere religious reasons rather than just “temple tourism.” Bridging the Gap: Mormon Legacy Ministries Recognizing that many Latter-day Saints are losing their faith over modern policy issues and discarding their testimonies entirely, Francom helped launch a brand-new initiative: Mormon Legacy Ministries (MLM). Francom observed that the mainstream LDS Church excels at missionary work and discipling members, while fundamentalists have successfully preserved early doctrines like plural marriage and the Adam-God theory. MLM seeks to bring the best of both worlds together. Described as an “ecumenical Mormon church,” MLM serves as a floating organization or waypoint for independent Mormons. Currently operating primarily over Zoom with Joshua Erickson serving as bishop, MLM is designed as a safe haven where individuals don’t have to swear loyalty to “one man” or strict dogmas. It bridges the gap for those who feel the mainstream LDS Church is no longer working for them, but who still want to hold onto core restoration truths without the intense leap of joining an insular fundamentalist compound. Francom's vision is a refreshing departure from the fighting that usually defines Mormon history. And the paradigm shifts don’t stop there. In the next episode, Francom plans to discuss overturning the fundamentalist priesthood ban on Black members, boldly stating that Brigham Young simply made a mistake. Don't miss our other conversations on Mormon fundamentalism: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/fundamentalim/ Copyright © 2026 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Award-winning authors
Welcome to Part 33 of our series with historian John G. Turner, based on his landmark biography Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.In this episode, we dive into Chapter 26 (titled “David”) and explore one of the most controversial patterns in Joseph Smith's leadership: how he responded when trusted insiders became vocal critics.As pressure mounted from Missouri over the attempted assassination of Lilburn Boggs, Joseph faced internal dissent from figures like John C. Bennett and Orson Pratt. We examine the fallout surrounding Sarah Pratt, the publication of the so-called “Happiness Letter,” and the devastating public denunciation that followed.Was Joseph defending himself from slander? Or was he fighting dirty in the press?Today we discuss the allegations surrounding Nancy Rigdon and Sarah Pratt, Joseph's public rebukes and “Judas” comparisons, the (embarrassing) re-baptism of the Pratts, the role of Brigham Young in publicly acknowledging plural marriage, the publication of John C. Bennett, Joseph's legal maneuvers to avoid extradition, his complicated and evolving stance on slavery, and the larger pattern of character assassination within early Mormonism.We also explore Joseph's interaction with Illinois Governor Thomas Ford, the power of the Nauvoo Charter, and the increasingly emboldened posture of the church leadership as dissent intensified.This is a complex and uncomfortable chapter –one that forces us to wrestle with competing testimonies, public smears, loyalty under pressure, and the high cost of dissent.If you'd like to help keep this project going, please consider donating to support this series here. Your support makes long-form, in-depth historical discussion like this possible!Purchase John Turner's book here.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
David Archuleta became famous at 17 years old, when he was a finalist on “American Idol.” He joins us to talk about his new memoir, coming out as gay and about leaving the LDS Church.
In today's episode, Edward Nachel shares his firsthand account of serving on the High Council that excommunicated Wade Christofferson –and the guilt, questions, and reckoning that followed. Edward served in the same ward as Wade and knew him for over twenty-years.We begin with the recent arrest of Wade Christofferson and the allegations that have surfaced, including sexually coded letters and reported searches found on his phone. These are allegations until proven guilty in a court of law. But Edward's story focuses on something broader: how church disciplinary systems operate, how secrecy functions, and what happens when there are no advocates for victims inside the room.Edward describes being selected for the Disciplinary Council, drawing lots to see who represented the abuser and who represented the church, being sworn to secrecy, the absence of witnesses and the victims, how the final decision was made by the Stake Presidency, and how ward members were never warned.At the time, Edward believed he was “on the church's side.” Years later, he sees the system differently.This episode is not about attacking faith. It's about transparency, accountability, and protecting children. Edward openly asks: What could I have done? Why didn't I do more? And what must change to ensure this never happens again?If you or someone you know has been affected by abuse in a religious setting, you are not alone.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
The LDS Church has called Clark G. Gilbert as its newest apostle, and the implications of this decision reach far beyond a single leadership change. At just 55 years old, Gilbert is now positioned to shape the Church for decades to come. Tonight, we break down who Clark Gilbert is, what he said about his… Read More »Clark Gilbert Called as New LDS Apostle & What It Means for the Mormon Church's Future The post Clark Gilbert Called as New LDS Apostle & What It Means for the Mormon Church's Future appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
In this episode, former Mormon apologist Michael Flournoy shares how debating Christians and studying Scripture to defend Mormonism unexpectedly led him to the doctrine of grace—until he realized Jesus' righteousness is a gift, not something you earn. His journey exposes the “impossible gospel” of performance and points to the sufficiency of Christ alone.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Link to "From Mormon Apologist to Christian: The Story of Michael Flournoy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi5XP1Qh6OsThe Story of Michael FlournoyWhat does it mean to be a “Mormon apologist”? Michael Flournoy explains it with a smile: it's not someone who's good at apologizing. It comes from the Greek word apologia—a defense. In other words, an apologist is someone who argues their case and tries to prove they're right.And for years, that was Michael.He wasn't employed by the LDS Church, but he took the job personally. As a Mormon missionary, Michael ran into evangelical Christians who used the Bible to challenge Mormon beliefs. Instead of backing down, he doubled down. He became a student of Scripture—not to surrender to it, but to “undermine” Christian arguments. He debated Christians online and in person, wrote a book titled A Biblical Defense of Mormonism, and tried to persuade Christians that Mormons were truly Christians… just with “more truth.”But the story doesn't stay there.When the Bible Didn't CooperateMichael describes an early turning point on his mission. A Christian man confronted him with questions about God's nature, authority, and salvation. The conversation became combative and intense, lasting hours. Meanwhile, Michael's missionary companion tried (and failed) to locate a key proof-text Michael assumed was in the Bible—something to support the Mormon idea that humans can become gods.As the Christian man quoted passage after passage from memory, Michael felt stunned. His assumption was simple: “The Bible is supposed to be on our side.” But suddenly, it felt like Scripture was testifying against him.That moment didn't immediately make Michael a Christian—but it did awaken something: a hunger for certainty. Mormonism often leaves people with shifting ground—“maybe the prophet was speaking as a man,” or “maybe that revelation was partly human.” Michael didn't want “maybe” anymore. He wanted truth that wouldn't move. So he committed to reading the Bible and believing what it said.Ironically, he came out of that study more convinced Mormonism was true—at least for a while. He was using the Bible, but he admits he didn't yet understand how to interpret it faithfully. He collected scattered verses, stretched meanings, and attempted what he later calls “mental gymnastics.” If Christians had to accept the Bible, he figured, he could use it as “checkmate” to prove Mormonism.So he finished his mission, got married, and even dropped out of college to write his book. He
In this episode, former Mormon apologist Michael Flournoy shares how debating Christians and studying Scripture to defend Mormonism unexpectedly led him to the doctrine of grace—until he realized Jesus' righteousness is a gift, not something you earn. His journey exposes the “impossible gospel” of performance and points to the sufficiency of Christ alone.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Link to "From Mormon Apologist to Christian: The Story of Michael Flournoy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi5XP1Qh6Os The Story of Michael FlournoyWhat does it mean to be a “Mormon apologist”? Michael Flournoy explains it with a smile: it's not someone who's good at apologizing. It comes from the Greek word apologia—a defense. In other words, an apologist is someone who argues their case and tries to prove they're right.And for years, that was Michael.He wasn't employed by the LDS Church, but he took the job personally. As a Mormon missionary, Michael ran into evangelical Christians who used the Bible to challenge Mormon beliefs. Instead of backing down, he doubled down. He became a student of Scripture—not to surrender to it, but to “undermine” Christian arguments. He debated Christians online and in person, wrote a book titled A Biblical Defense of Mormonism, and tried to persuade Christians that Mormons were truly Christians… just with “more truth.”But the story doesn't stay there.When the Bible Didn't CooperateMichael describes an early turning point on his mission. A Christian man confronted him with questions about God's nature, authority, and salvation. The conversation became combative and intense, lasting hours. Meanwhile, Michael's missionary companion tried (and failed) to locate a key proof-text Michael assumed was in the Bible—something to support the Mormon idea that humans can become gods.As the Christian man quoted passage after passage from memory, Michael felt stunned. His assumption was simple: “The Bible is supposed to be on our side.” But suddenly, it felt like Scripture was testifying against him.That moment didn't immediately make Michael a Christian—but it did awaken something: a hunger for certainty. Mormonism often leaves people with shifting ground—“maybe the prophet was speaking as a man,” or “maybe that revelation was partly human.” Michael didn't want “maybe” anymore. He wanted truth that wouldn't move. So he committed to reading the Bible and believing what it said.Ironically, he came out of that study more convinced Mormonism was true—at least for a while. He was using the Bible, but he admits he didn't yet understand how to interpret it faithfully. He collected scattered verses, stretched meanings, and attempted what he later calls “mental gymnastics.” If Christians had to accept the Bible, he figured, he could use it as “checkmate” to prove Mormonism.So he finished his mission, got married, and even dropped out of college to write his book....
What happens when a devoted Mormon father and his daughter –who no longer believes –sit down for an honest, loving conversation?In this powerful "bridgebuilding" episode, Matt and Katie Todd share their story of faith, doubt, and family. Matt is a lifelong Latter-day Saint. Katie began questioning the Church while attending American Heritage School in Utah County –right across from the Timpanogos Temple –and eventually lost her faith as a teenager.They talk about growing up in Utah County as a Mormon, reading church history and the CES Letter (during class!), controversial topics –such as polygamy, the priesthood and temple ban, and the Book of Abraham. They also talk about what it's like to lose your testimony as a teenager, the fear that parents feel when their kids leave the church, and how unconditional love can survive even in the face of deep disagreement.This episode isn't about winning arguments. It's about trust, conscience, empathy, and learning how families can stay connected even when beliefs change.Whether you're a believer, a former believer, or somewhere in between, this conversation offers a rare and hopeful model for how to disagree without rejecting each other.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Send us a Positive Review!Join us for this one-time-only recording of our FIRST Latter Day Struggles "Live Fellowship"! What is this, you ask? Valerie has decided to offer a gathering place for those on the LDS and surrounding faith expansion journey wanting consistent (2x/month!) connection with her to go deeper into the mind & heart expanding content on both the Monday and Friday tracks of the Latter Day Struggles podcast. In this opening gathering, Valerie explored with those in attendance how both The Family Proclamation to the World and the call of Clark Gilbert to the Q12 are reflections of a historical moment and a choice point that all organizations confront as they grow. The question? Do we adapt to a more connected and pluralistic world that is experiencing an awakening of light and truth? Or do we double down in fear-based conformity? This amazing interactive Fellowship Live episode gives you a taste of how your faith journey can move beyond a passive listening experience and towards active healing and connection with other seekers like yourself. Jump in now and you can become a founding shaper of the first cohesive and intentional community of individuals whose LDS faith journey was an entry point into their greatest spiritual growth and evolution. If you listened and this is for you, jump into the Latter Day Struggles LIVE FELLOWSHIP by clicking on the link below and enroll. Timestamps:00:00 Welcome: Why Seeing Faces Matters 00:51 Building a Faith-Expansion Community 02:33 What a "Sangha" Is 04:14 How the Fellowship Works 05:23 What This Space Is (and Isn't) 07:43 Ground Rules: Staying with Growth 09:28 Why Context Heals 10:48 The Family Proclamation & Clark Gilbert 13:57 America and the LDS Church as Parallel Institutions 15:52 Master Narratives & Threatened Identity 19:38 Retrench or Adapt: The Choice Point 27:00 Discussion: Authoritarian Systems vs. Healthy Communities 32:54 Pocket Communities Over Polarization 34:08 Seeing the System with Compassion 37:50 Why Narrative Change Feels Threatening 40:00 High-Level Language vs. Real-Life Details 42:42 Moving Beyond Fixed Rules 46:45 Transcend & Include 51:37 Rethinking Prophecy 56:13 Our Role in the Larger Awakening 01:00:16 Closing: Breakout Groups & What's NextSupport the showSupport the show Listen, Share, Rate & Review EPISODES Friday Episodes Annual Access $89 Friday Episodes Monthly Access $10 Valerie's Support & Processing Groups Gift a Scholarship Download Free Resources Visit our Website
Are leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints prophets and apostles in a true biblical sense? Was Joseph Smith a true prophet? We believe the answer to both questions is "No." Tune in this week to find out more. Watchman Fellowship has published free articles on our blog related to this topic. Visit and subscribe to our new blog today! Be sure to check out these articles. Testing Joseph SmithDiscerning False ChristsThis week we continue our conversation with former Latter-day Saint and the great, great granddaughter of Brigham Young, Sandra Tanner. Sandra shares her wisdom and experience from her decades-long research of the LDS Church. Her insights will help equip you to be better prepared to engage your Mormon friends, neighbors or missionaries who come to your door. If you are enjoying Apologetics Profile, be sure to leave us a nice review on your favorite podcast platform! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I sat down with Justin Francom, an independent Mormon fundamentalist living in Missouri, to discuss his journey from a traditional LDS background to an Independent Mormon fundamentalist. Francom's story is a compelling look at how his search for deeper doctrine can lead a “Jack Mormon” turned missionary into the world of independent fundamentalist. https://youtu.be/6oY7DnOq2Ec Don't miss our other conversations on Mormon fundamentalism: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/fundamentalim/ Path to a Faith Crisis After serving an LDS mission in South Korea and marrying in the temple, Francom experienced a profound “culture shock” within the mainstream LDS Church in Utah. This feeling was exacerbated by changes to the temple ceremony, which left him spiritually unsatisfied. His search for answers led him to the writings of Denver Snuffer, specifically Passing of the Heavenly Gift. However, Snuffer's thesis—that the Restoration had essentially failed—left Francom feeling cynical and depressed. Finding Light in “Lost” Doctrines Francom’s path took a turn when he discovered the works of fundamentalist author Ogden Kraut. Unlike Snuffer's work, Kraut's writings on “lost” history and doctrines, such as prayer circles in the home and the Adam-God doctrine, rebolstered his faith and testimony. Francom describes receiving a personal spiritual witness of these doctrines, which created a wedge between him and mainstream LDS leadership, whom he felt had been untruthful about Church history. Rejecting “One-Manism” A central theme of Francom's transition is his rejection of “one-man doctrines“—the belief that priesthood authority is a rigid control structure funneled through a single living prophet. After investigating various groups like the AUB and the Peterson group, Francom found that they often emulated the same authoritarian behaviors he found troubling in the LDS Church. This led him to remain an independent Mormon fundamentalist, believing that the true vision of the Restoration was to create a “nation of prophets and priests.“ Reimagining Priesthood Authority as Mormon Fundamentalist The summary of Francom’s theological shift concludes with his introduction to a new interpretation of Section 132 via Sean Anderson. He argues that the “one man” referred to in scripture relates to the serial nature of conferring the fullness of the priesthood (the second anointing) rather than a restriction on how many people can hold the authority at once. By viewing priesthood as something to be perpetuated and shared rather than controlled, Francom finds a way to maintain his testimony of Joseph Smith and the temple while remaining outside of traditional institutional boundaries. What do you think?
Welcome to Part 32 of our series with Dr. John G Turner, based on his new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.In this episode, Dr. Turner response directly to modern claims denying Joseph Smith's plural marriage to Sarah Ann Whitney. We revisit Chapter 26 of his book, carefully examining the historical record surrounding the 1842 letter often associated with Sarah Ann Whitney, the language of sealing and “fulness of blessings,” the land deed, and the broader documentary context of Nauvoo-era plural marriage.We also engage with alternative interpretations, including arguments that question whether the letter refers to polygamy at all. Drawing on Turner's scholarship as well as Karen Hyatt's analysis, this discussion models how historians weight evidence, examine primary sources, and wrestle with ambiguity. What constitutes strong documentation? How do historians interpret silence, denials, and later public statements? And how should we think about the broader context of Joseph Smith's practice of plural marriage in Nauvoo?Along the way, we explore the legal crisis surrounding the alleged assassination attempt on Lilburn Boggs, the Nauvoo writ of habeas corpus, the Sarah Ann Whitney Letter, Public denials and private sealings, sham marriages and the case of Joseph Kingsbury, documentation involving the Partridge sisters and why serious historical inquiry requires both skepticism and careful contextualization.We invite you to read Chapter 26 alongside this discussion and let us know your thoughts in the comments. To read Karen Hyatt's interpretation download her free book here: https://josephtoldthetruth.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Woe-Unto-You-Scribes.pdfTo watch Karen Hyatt's video, “The Worst Love Letter… EVER!” click here.Let us know in the comments how you interpret the evidence.Please purchase the book here.To support this series please donate here. One half of all donations will go to Dr. Turner for as long as he is participating in the series.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
On December 16th, 2025, the LDS Church announced that six Protestant translations of the Bible can and should be read by Latter-day Saints. What are those six translations? And why did the church make this surprise announcement? MRM's Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson discuss this in their conversation this week.
On December 16th, 2025, the LDS Church announced that six Protestant translations of the Bible can and should be read by Latter-day Saints. What are those six translations? And why did the church make this surprise announcement? MRM's Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson discuss this in their conversation this week.
Students at Morehouse College recently raised concerns over a newly unveiled painting of Joseph Smith to be displayed in the Martin Luther King International Chapel gallery on campus. The artwork, intended as part of an interfaith partnership highlighting individuals who champion racial equality, quickly became the center of a student-led pushback and dialogue about representation, historical memory, and institutional values. Some students questioned why Smith—founder The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—was selected for prominent display at a historically Black college, particularly given the LDS Church's racist past, restrictions on Black members holding the priesthood prior to 1978, and Smith's own views and writings. For most students, the issue was not merely about a single painting, but about the broader symbolism of honoring religious figures whose institutions and they themselves have complicated histories regarding race. Mormonish Podcast is joined by Alonzo Brinson, 40th President of the Martin Luther King International Chapel Assistants Program to discuss the developing situation at Morehouse College.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
On December 16th, 2025, the LDS Church announced that six Protestant translations of the Bible can and should be read by Latter-day Saints. What are those six translations? And why did the church make this surprise announcement? MRM's Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson discuss this in their conversation this week.
Returning to Jackson County: A History of the Temple Lot Church Rick Bennett sat down down with historian R Jean Addams in 2020 to explore the fascinating history of the Church of Christ (Temple Lot), often referred to as the “Hedrickites.” Addams, whose wife is a descendant of the sect’s founder, Granville Hedrick, provides a deep dive into how this small group returned to Independence, Missouri, to reclaim the original temple site dedicated by Joseph Smith. https://youtu.be/vBmd_8RCktE Key Historical Moments: • Return to Missouri: While many restoration groups moved west or stayed in Illinois, Granville Hedrick received a revelation in 1864 to return to Jackson County, Missouri, in 1867. His brother, John Hedrick, was the first to return in 1865, and the group began purchasing the lots that make up the specific temple site. • Temple Lot Case: In the 1890s, the RLDS Church (now Community of Christ) sued the Temple Lot church to seize ownership of the property. In a surprising twist of history, the Utah-based LDS Church secretly funded the Temple Lot's legal fees to help them retain the land and prevent the RLDS church from winning. • Trials by Fire: The church has faced significant physical challenges, including arson attacks in roughly 1900 and 1990 that destroyed their buildings. Additionally, an attempt to build a temple in 1929 created a massive excavation site that stalled during the Great Depression; the “ugly hole” remained until the city of Independence filled it in 1946, reportedly after it caught the attention of city officials who wanted to cover the hole when Harry Truman returned home to Independence from the US Presidenty. Unique Beliefs and Practices: • Scripture: The Church of Christ (Temple Lot) rejects the Doctrine and Covenants, viewing the changes made to revelations as unauthorized; instead, they adhere strictly to the 1833 Book of Commandments. • Leadership: They do not have a single church president but are led by a Council of Apostles. • Worship: Their services include the use of a “common cup” for the sacrament (restricted to baptized members) and the practice of the entire congregation kneeling for prayers. Women generally do not speak or pray during worship services. Current Status: Despite their small size—estimated at roughly 1,000 members in the U.S. and Canada—the church maintains active missionary work, with growing congregations in the Yucatan, the Philippines, and Kenya. They remain the guardians of the physical “Temple Lot” in Independence to this day. Jean has written “Upon the Temple Lot.” Check out the book for more information.
In this powerful and deeply personal episode, we sit down with David Archuleta to discuss his new memoir, Devout: Losing My Faith to Find Myself. David opens up about his life inside of Mormonism, his rise to fame on American Idol, his mission, his relationship with Church leaders, and the long, painful journey toward self-acceptance as a gay man.This conversation goes far beyond headlines. David walks us through the internalized shame, religious scrupulosity, and obsessive righteousness that shaped his childhood and young adulthood. He reflects on the messages he received about masculinity, sexuality, and obedience –and how those teachings distorted his understanding of intimacy, trust, and self-worth.We explore David's experiences with Mormon apostles, including M. Russell Ballard, the November 2015 Policy, and the unsettling realization that Church leaders often spoke with certainty despite privately admitting they had no answers. David shares what it was like to be counseled to marry a woman, to suppress his identity, and to believe his faith could “heal” him –while quietly spiraling toward despair.This episode also addresses growing up in a Mormon bubble, religious OCD, messages about LGBTQ people, chastity and sin, fame and unpaid church services, leaving the church and reclaiming agency and what happiness and God look like for him now.David speaks with extraordinary honest, vulnerability, and compassion –not just for himself, but for the countless LGBTQ people still navigating high-demand religions.Order his book here.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
On December 16th, 2025, the LDS Church announced that six Protestant translations of the Bible can and should be read by Latter-day Saints. What are those six translations? And why did the church make this surprise announcement? MRM's Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson discuss this in their conversation this week.
Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: What does the Family Proclamation Mean to You? [Episode II of II]This episode of Latter Day Struggles continues a two-part conversation about the LDS Church's Proclamation on the Family, examining the tension between claims of unchanging doctrine and the historical reality of doctrinal evolution.Petrey demonstrates through historical analysis that LDS teachings on gender, sexuality, marriage, and family have repeatedly changed over time—from positions on interracial marriage and the priesthood ban, to birth control prohibitions, plural marriage, conversion therapy for LGBTQ individuals, and women wearing pants. The conversation highlights how church leaders have consistently taught that their current positions were "unchanging doctrine" until those positions eventually changed, creating a pattern that contradicts claims of doctrinal fixity. Petrey offers a constructive framework for understanding doctrine as historically contingent and evolving—consistent with the LDS concept of continuing revelation—rather than eternally fixed. The Family ProclamationOp Ed by Taylor PetreyTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 00:19 - Overview of the Proclamation to the Family 01:19 - Recap: Last Week's Discussion 01:31 - Defining Doctrine and Authority 02:08 - What Does 'Doctrine' Mean to Members? 03:48 - The Salvational Weight of Doctrine 05:31 - Elder Rasband's Talk and Proclamation Analysis 09:40 - Historical Changes in LDS Doctrine 11:41 - Race, Interracial Marriage, and Doctrinal Change 13:14 - Birth Control and Plural Marriage 15:11 - History vs. Faith-Promoting Narratives 17:34 - Redefining Doctrine: Making Space for Change 20:06 - Conversion Therapy and Evolving LGBTQ Positions 22:31 - Holding Contradictory Positions Simultaneously 25:31 - Challenges of Authoritarianism in the Church 28:09 - Religious Authority Across Denominations 32:33 - Who Defines History vs. Who Defines Doctrine? 34:22 - Doctrine as Continuing Revelation 35:15 - Concluding Thoughts and Future DirectionsSupport the showSupport the show Listen, Share, Rate & Review EPISODES Friday Episodes Annual Access $89 Friday Episodes Monthly Access $10 Valerie's Support & Processing Groups Gift a Scholarship Download Free Resources Visit our Website
On December 16th, 2025, the LDS Church announced that six Protestant translations of the Bible can and should be read by Latter-day Saints. What are those six translations? And why did the church make this surprise announcement? MRM's Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson discuss this in their conversation this week.
In this special Valentine's episode, we are joined by Kolby Reddish (a rando on the internet), Nemo the Mormon, Carah Burrell (from Nuancehoe), Julia Sanders from Analyzing Mormonism and John Dehlin for a conversation that might surprise you.Yes - We are critics of Mormonism.Yes - We've experienced pain, disillusionment, and deep deconstruction.And yet… we can hold two different truths at once.In this episode, we model something that feels almost taboo in exMormon spaces: expressing gratitude for the things Mormonism gave us –while still being honest about its harm. In this episode we discuss:- Rituals that shaped our identities- Community and why it's hard to leave- Awe, wonder, and valuing the body- Agency and free will as an act of faith- Why compassion and justice often lead people OUT of the church- Whether we wish to destroy the church or make it betterThere are so many good people inside the Mormon church. The people are often beautiful while the system is complicated. As Richard Rohr once said: “Nobody does first half of life better than Mormons” –and we all share deep gratitude for that first half. This episode does not erase the negative things about the church. It doesn't minimize harm. But it DOES ask whether we can be mature enough to acknowledge the good without surrendering our integrity.Please purchase the book here.To support this series please donate here. One half of all donations will go to Dr. Turner for as long as he is participating in the series.___________________YouTubeShow NotesAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Welcome to Part 31 in our ongoing series with Dr. John Turner, based on his new book Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.Today we are diving into Chapter 31, “World on Fire,” and the explosive years 1842-1843 in Nauvoo –a period marked by scandal, secrecy, political pressure, and deep internal crisis.In this episode we cover the rise and fall of John C. Bennett and the “Spiritual Wifery” scandal. We also discuss the attempted assassination of Lilburn Boggs and the role of Porter Rockwell. We also cover aspects of polygamy, namely the Nancy Rigdon controversy and Joseph Smith's failed proposal, the stories of Sarah Pratt and Sarah Ann Whitney (including the letter sent to the Whitneys in Joseph Smith's own handwriting with specific instructions to burn the letter), and Emma Smith and the growing concerns in the Relief Society as well as Nauvoo at large.We also examine how Nauvoo struggled to manage these crises, how accusations and denials shaped public perception, and why John Turner calls this moment a true “world on fire.”If you'd like to help keep this project going, please consider donating to support this series. Your support makes long-form, in-depth historical discussion like this possible!Please purchase the book here.To support this series please donate here. One half of all donations will go to Dr. Turner for as long as he is participating in the series.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
Tonight on The Mormon Newscast, we take a deeper look at who actually rises to leadership inside the LDS Church and why. A new analysis shows a striking pattern that raises questions about loyalty, trust, and how power reproduces itself inside a church that claims to be led by revelation rather than résumés or relationships.… Read More »Family Ties and Legal Minds Inside LDS Church Leadership The post Family Ties and Legal Minds Inside LDS Church Leadership appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
Tonight on The Mormon Newscast, we lead with a story that cuts straight to trust and credibility. Just a few years ago the LDS Church claimed it could not turn over abuse-help-line records because those records were routinely destroyed. Then, just last week, the Church publicly cited those same records to defend itself from over… Read More »LDS Church Doesn’t Destroy Child Abuse Records Afterall !!! The post LDS Church Doesn’t Destroy Child Abuse Records Afterall !!! appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
⚠️Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussions of violence, self-harm, suicide, and religious trauma.In this deeply vulnerable and wide-ranging conversation, Kyson Dana shares his story of growing up Mormon, serving a mission in Russia, and the lifelong psychological, spiritual, and physical consequences that followed. What was supposed to be the “best two years” of his life became the most traumatic –shaping his identity, mental health, and eventual departure from the Church. Kyson opens up about generational trauma, internalized shame, self-policing, and suicidal ideation in his youth. He walks us through the intense pressure to be perfect, the weaponization of guilt and obedience, and how Mormonism taught him to disconnect from himself in order to survive. We dive deeply into the realities of missionary life in Russia: shrinking missions, violence, threats, abductions, murders, leadership silence, and explicit instructions NOT to tell families what was happening. Kyson recounts being told not to come home unless it was “in a coffin,” enduring extreme fasting, psychological abuse, and witnessing acts of violence that were never processed or acknowledged.Beyond the mission, Kyson shares how this trauma followed him into adulthood –fueling panic disorder, Complex PTSD, and a prolonged faith crisis. He discusses therapy, EMDR, creative work, and the careful, supported use of psychedelics as part of healing. We also explore his work helping teens navigate shame-based purity culture, pornography narratives (“Fight the new drug!”), and the dangerous conflation of morality with normal human behavior. This episode is about far more than Mormonism –it's about identity, belonging, survival, and what it takes to come back to yourself after an institution teaches you to turn yourself off. If you've ever felt broken by a system that promised salvation, you're not alone.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
THEY NEVER DESTROYED THE HELPLINE RECORDS! Did RFM just catch the LDS Church lying about its CSA Helpline records? In order to avoid turning over Helpline records, the Church has previously sworn all the records are destroyed at the end of each day. Now suddenly, in order to defend itself against the allegations of Beau… Read More »LDS Church Caught Lying!!! RFM: 440
Welcome to Episode 30 of our series The Joseph Smith Podcast with Dr. John Turner where we discuss chapters from his new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet.”In this episode, we dive further into Chapter 24 (“Upper Rooms”) from John Turner's work and unpack the origins of the LDS Relief Society in May of 1842 –right in the middle of Joseph Smith's secret practice of polygamy. We explore whether the Relief Society was meant to empower women, function as a stepping stone to priesthood-like authority, or help manage rumors and moral fallout from Nauvoo's growing scandals.From Emma Smith's complicated position, to whispered accusations, to the infamous “Happiness Letter,” this conversation traces how secrecy, power, and polygamy collide –and what it all says about Joseph Smith's character. We also look at whistleblowers, public denials, internal investigations (or lack thereof), and how victims and critics were treated when scandals became impossible to contain. This is part Mormon history, part true crime, and part moral reckoning –with big questions about leadership, secrecy, and accountability. Please purchase the book here.To support this series please donate here. One half of all donations will go to Dr. Turner for as long as he is participating in the series.___________________YouTubeAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
A new Netflix documentary on the 2002 kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart in Salt Lake City by Brian David Mitchell and Wanda Barzee (all Mormons) has been released. To what extent was this kidnapping influenced by Joseph Smith and/or Mormonism? Join John, Samantha, Alyssa, and Taylor as they explore the Mormon connections to Elizbeth Smart's kidnapping.___________________YouTubeShow NotesAt Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions